Starring…
Captain Kirk: Is Federation and wins with the Federation. His vote gets counted twice (because he is that awesome), though the moderator does not advertise this to anyone else.
Ensign: Is Federation and wins with the Federation. The ensign has no special powers. However, if Captain Kirk is targeted by the wolves at night, the ensign will die in his place. The villagers will not know whether Kirk or the ensign were targeted.
Odo: Is Federation and wins with the Federation. With his ability to shapeshift, he makes the perfect seer. Once per night, Odo assumes the shape of one of the Changelings and chooses one player’s quarters. He cannot “peek” at himself. Upon death, he will be revealed as Odo.
Chakotay: Is Federation and wins with the Federation. He sees visions, but who the fuck knows what they mean? Thus, the player who is Chakotay will also be told he is Odo. So when Chakotay makes a peek, a random number generator will determine who he saw (which of course may not be true). He cannot “peek” at himself. Upon death, he will be revealed as Chakotay.
Deanna Troi: Is Federation and wins with the Federation. She is mostly useless. She is only allowed one statement per day where she sounds confident. Every other statement has to be wishy-washy. If Troi violates this, she will be mod-killed. A vote, by itself, does not count as a confident statement.
Changelings (3): The enemy of the Federation. They have infiltrated Deep Space Nine and are posing as Federation. Each night a Jem’ HaDar soldier randomly protects the room of one of the Changelings. If either Odo or Chakotay peek into that room, they are killed. The Jem’HaDar will die as well and there will be no more protection for the Changelings.
Quark: Is a neutral player. He doesn’t care which side wins as long as he profits. Quark personally wins if he outlives Odo. Also, if the Changelings target Quark for death, they will have a chance to bargain with him for his life. In exchange for his life, Quark will be told to peek in someone else’s quarters (at the Changeling’s choice) and report back. However, Quark gets to decide if he tells the Changelings the truth or not. At this point, the Changelings can decide if they believe Quark and then make their night kill (anyone except Quark). If the Changelings target Quark a second time, there is no bargain and he dies. If the Federation targets Quark, he dies. The bargain happens entirely through the moderator. Quark will have no idea who the Changelings are during this process.
We have fourteen players for this game. In alphabetical order, they are
adobery
bhiggum
cheaptoy
Daneeka’s Ghost
DK
Grey
greekhouse
kg2005
meat
nibbish
rob
spookymilk
TDO
Will Young
Day will begin at 9 am CST and end at 9 pm CST
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October 30, 2011 at 11:58 pm
Beau
****
NIGHT
***
Day begins in 10 hours.
October 31, 2011 at 12:10 am
Beau
General Housekeeping
1)When you vote, make sure your vote is a new post, and that it is bolded. To bold, put the letter ‘b’ inside the brackets over the comma and period.
2)If you decide to change your vote, please ‘unvote’ in the same manner.
3)To avoid confusion, I will not accept any vote cast after 8:59 CST. No exceptions. However, I won’t punish you if you accidentally voted or commented at 9:00. Practice good etiquette.
4)If we have not reached a majority by 9:00, and you have not voted, you get a strike. Two strikes and you are mod-killed.
5)Day will always begin at 9 and end at 9. If an exception is made, it will likely require 100% agreement by all living members via private message.
6)Try to direct moderator questions through my e-mail. I will answer them on the board if it’s the appropriate location.
7)Due to my work will be off the grid for significant stretches during the day. I will periodically check the site and my e-mail and try to be on top of things. I should be able to be present after 6:00 CST every night unless something comes up.
October 31, 2011 at 9:34 am
meat
I sense that it’s day, maybe it isn’t, I’m not sure, but I feel like it’s day.
October 31, 2011 at 9:37 am
Beau
*** meat is sleepwalking ***
October 31, 2011 at 9:53 am
greekhouse
***ASLEEP***
ZOMBIE!!!
So by 9 and 9 I assume you mean CST?
***ASLEEP***
October 31, 2011 at 9:55 am
Beau
Yes, especially since I put CST in big bold letters up there
October 31, 2011 at 10:02 am
greekhouse
Oh right. I didn’t see it in the original
October 31, 2011 at 10:00 am
Beau
Clarification on Troi, as several people have asked.
A Troi vote does not count as her one declarative statement, as long as it’s just a vote. If she were to say, “We should definitely kill Guinan. Vote: Guinan” that would count.
October 31, 2011 at 10:00 am
Beau
“My tricorder readings tell me you’re humanoid. But what they don’t tell me is that you are a very…beautiful woman.”
“Perhaps we can improve the tricorder.”
“Perhaps I can just use my eyes.”
“And your hands?”
—————————-
Stardate 48301.8
“I can’t believe he’s late for the briefing,” says Captain Sisko, as he tightly grips his baseball in two hands. “I don’t have time for this. These negotiations are too important.”
“He’s probably just having a hard time telling a Dabo girl goodbye.” Jadzia Dax smiles. “He was at the tables all last night.”
“Thanks, Old Man,” he replies, trying to hide his amusement. “All right, I can’t wait any longer. Comput…” Sisko’s command is cut off as the doors to his office open.
“Yes, Odo, what is it!” Sisko yells impatiently.
“Captain, we’ve got a problem. A big problem. Commander Riker is dead.”
beau(Commander William T. Riker, died happy)adobery
bhiggum
cheaptoy
Daneeka’s Ghost
DK
Grey
greekhouse
kg2005
meat
nibbish
rob
spookymilk
TDO
Will Young
***IT IS DAY***
October 31, 2011 at 10:03 am
rob
vote spookymilk
Cause really, why not?
October 31, 2011 at 10:03 am
greekhouse
***Takes a dump on Spooky’s face***
VOTE SPOOKY
***wipes***
October 31, 2011 at 10:04 am
rob
okay, that’s just too funny.
October 31, 2011 at 10:05 am
greekhouse
I subscribed to comments with that last comment and your comment showed up in my email, even though my comment showed up second.
October 31, 2011 at 10:18 am
meat
Oh, dear lord. My mind is racing with all this emotion. I long for Riker’s tender touch, and now he’s dead, dead, dead. I’mnot sure where to turn, if only Warf were around he could show me the strength of his Bat’leth.
October 31, 2011 at 10:19 am
daneekasghost
Yikes, I miss the first 15 minutes and someone already took a dump on spooky. Not sure I can top that.
vote: Dread Pirate
Is this game the one where the string is broken?
October 31, 2011 at 10:29 am
cheaptoy1
vote meat
Because its worked out relatively well in the past.
October 31, 2011 at 10:34 am
meat
I’m sensing that you have some hostility towards me. Let’s sit down and talk through your emotions.
October 31, 2011 at 11:29 am
cheaptoy1
That doesn’t sound a whole lot like what you’re avatar represents.
October 31, 2011 at 10:47 am
TDO
I didnt really watch star trek so i may miss some of the “inside jokes” with that said i find the current posts amusing.
October 31, 2011 at 11:02 am
bhiggum
I’ve watched some of all the different Star Treks, but Deep Space Nine was the one I’ve seen the least of, and of course that’s the one the majority of this is built around.
October 31, 2011 at 11:32 am
cheaptoy1
If it helps, I have zero Star Trek knowledge from any series and the only movie I’ve seen was watching Eric Bana be the worst villain ever. The best I can do is say I had a roomate that was big into The Next Generation.
October 31, 2011 at 10:54 am
adobery
So which of you are my fellow willagers?
vote meat
For mispellnig Worf and for walking around in his “Kiss Me, I’m a captain” boxers during curfew.
October 31, 2011 at 10:57 am
greekhouse
My list of top Worfs:
1. Not meat.
That is all.
October 31, 2011 at 10:58 am
meat
Maybe it was auto correct, or maybe it’s my pet name for him. I’ll be on the Holodeck making sweet love to Riker’s memory, and his ‘bone.
October 31, 2011 at 10:59 am
adobery
I didn’t read carefully enough. I guess I’ll unvote you Deanna.
unvote Meat
October 31, 2011 at 11:01 am
adobery
Let’s make him talk cause I know he wants to.
vote Spookymilk
October 31, 2011 at 11:06 am
bhiggum
Vote- rob
For starting up the milkwagon. Not that he shouldn’t have started it, but I need some reason to vote for someone.
October 31, 2011 at 11:19 am
kg2005
Vote nibbish
As a new player, I’m making the assumption that this guy has been a wolf nearly every game.
October 31, 2011 at 12:03 pm
greekhouse
LOLZ
October 31, 2011 at 11:28 am
cheaptoy1
unvote meat
vote kg2005
Almost forgot about the new player initiation of voting for them on day 1.
October 31, 2011 at 11:45 am
kg2005
I’m just happy to be included
October 31, 2011 at 11:29 am
TDO
vote cheaptoy
for no other reason than i dont want to pile votes on spooky and end the day.
October 31, 2011 at 11:30 am
cheaptoy1
That’s fair to spooky, but you should probably be careful about voting for me, what with what happened in Springfield and all….. Plus, I’m nothing more than a boring, rank and file solider.
October 31, 2011 at 11:35 am
daneekasghost
Technically it worked last time. The villagers (and thus TDO) ended up winning… got to stick with what works.
October 31, 2011 at 11:36 am
rob
He’s Bart! Let’s get him!
October 31, 2011 at 11:36 am
TDO
Good point, i figure my first vote every game should be thrown at you as an honorary reminder of the bond you and I now share in my first game hehe.
October 31, 2011 at 11:44 am
cheaptoy1
I just hope you’re not a changeling this time and the bond we share isn’t me getting eaten (or whatever changelings do) at night. (if we’re in space, isn’t it always “night”?)
October 31, 2011 at 11:48 am
TDO
ah good point point about it always being night, also i think its a guarantee there are no wolves this game. As a star trek newb do changelings eat people like wolves do?
October 31, 2011 at 11:57 am
Beau
Watch and find out.
October 31, 2011 at 11:51 am
rob
unvote spookymilk
vote adobery
May as well move the votes around a bit. It would be nice for spooky to talk some, but I am guessing that he’ll talk plenty without the extra incentive when he checks in.
October 31, 2011 at 11:56 am
spookymilk
Ah, what a morning! I haven’t slept this well or this long in months. The sun is shining, it’s a beautiful d…
…what’s that? I have three votes cast for me and a dump has been taken on my face? Well, there’s a nice how do ya do.
In the words of Captain Kirk: “I’ve got a bad feeling about this!” Seriously, guys, I’m not the droid you’re looking for.
October 31, 2011 at 11:59 am
kg2005
I know very little about Star Trek, but I’m pretty sure “I’m not the droid you’re looking for” in this context is blasphemy.
October 31, 2011 at 11:59 am
spookymilk
So is “I’ve got a bad feeling about this.” I’m playing the role of annoying Beau a lot.
October 31, 2011 at 12:00 pm
kg2005
Oh, that was Han. Now I feel bad for missing that.
October 31, 2011 at 12:04 pm
greekhouse
I have three votes cast for me and a dump has been taken on my face?
When you’ve gotta go, you’ve gotta go.
October 31, 2011 at 12:00 pm
spookymilk
Vote TDO
Because this time he doesn’t appear wolfy, so maybe he is. OOoooohhhH!
October 31, 2011 at 12:03 pm
TDO
haha, i even thought about that!
October 31, 2011 at 12:01 pm
Beau
adobery (1) voting for spookymilk
bhiggum voting for rob
cheaptoy (1) voting for kg2005
Daneeka’s Ghost voting for The Dread Pirate
DK
Dread Pirate (1)
Grey
greekhouse voting for spookymilk
kg2005 (1) voting for nibbish
meat
nibbish (1)
rob (1) voting for adobery
spookymilk (2)
TDO voting for cheaptoy
Okay guys, I’m off the site for the next five hours probably. Probably off the grid entirely. Behave.
October 31, 2011 at 12:02 pm
Beau
the above doesn’t include Spooky’s TDO vote.
10 hours until NIGHT
October 31, 2011 at 12:02 pm
spookymilk
WOOOOOOO, orgy on the Holodeck
October 31, 2011 at 12:08 pm
adobery
Ok, nobody go in there, I just peeked and there were 7 spookys.
October 31, 2011 at 12:41 pm
greekhouse
Seven Spookys or seven Kelly Wells?
October 31, 2011 at 12:42 pm
cheaptoy1
Seven Spookys and one Kelly Wells.
October 31, 2011 at 12:58 pm
spookymilk
Good odds~!
October 31, 2011 at 12:19 pm
cheaptoy1
Wait, I thought that already started. Isn’t that why you were pooped on?
October 31, 2011 at 12:29 pm
Grey
I think this is kind of gross, but I’m not sure yet. maybe it’s kind of hot too.
October 31, 2011 at 12:32 pm
bhiggum
I’m pretty sure it’s just gross.
October 31, 2011 at 12:39 pm
cheaptoy1
Well, in a purely literal sense it would be “hot”.
October 31, 2011 at 12:59 pm
spookymilk
I think at the very least, we can all agree that it’s German.
October 31, 2011 at 1:03 pm
daneekasghost
ja.
October 31, 2011 at 1:04 pm
bhiggum
Unvote-rob
Vote- DK
Got no response to my rob vote, so let’s try to get DK to beam on in here.
October 31, 2011 at 1:11 pm
Grey
vote greekhouse
I think that no-one has, but I didn’t look super closely, so I could be wrong, but if no one’s voted for him then maybe I should. Just for now though.
October 31, 2011 at 1:14 pm
kg2005
I see what’s happening here and would like to see what meat has to say about it.
October 31, 2011 at 2:12 pm
cheaptoy1
Would you like to hear from meat because you guys are in cahoots as changelings? (just curious)
October 31, 2011 at 2:19 pm
meat
I’m half telepathic, the other half is whole wheat. No, it’s rye. No, wheat. Aw, shoot. I wish that I had had a normal upbringing. I’m just glad that Gene Roddenberry’s wife decided that I didn’t need to have four breasts, but that would have been cool.
October 31, 2011 at 1:14 pm
daneekasghost
unvote: Dread Pirate
Same old, same old from him. Haven’t seen him check in yet, so until he does…
vote: kg2005
Reason? I don’t like the “10 votes spread across 9 people” strategy. Too easy to ignore single votes.
October 31, 2011 at 1:15 pm
kg2005
I understand the strategy. I think the strategy would be even better if it was pointed somewhere else.
October 31, 2011 at 1:20 pm
kg2005
Unvote nibbish
Vote Grey
Because we don’t need two Deeana Trois when one is already far too many.
October 31, 2011 at 1:24 pm
bhiggum
Hmm, a fake Troi ploy? Interesting.
October 31, 2011 at 1:25 pm
daneekasghost
Fake Troi ahoy?
October 31, 2011 at 1:25 pm
daneekasghost
Fake Troi ploy ahoy. Dammit.
October 31, 2011 at 1:27 pm
kg2005
Doy
October 31, 2011 at 1:32 pm
bhiggum
Oh boy.
October 31, 2011 at 1:31 pm
Grey
unvote GH
vote kg2005
I am most definitely not making a fake troi play, or ploy, boy.
I get the sense that you are jumping on this assumption pretty quickly, which seems wolfy to me. Again, it is early and I could be jumping the gun.
October 31, 2011 at 1:32 pm
Grey
seems like a type fail to me
October 31, 2011 at 1:33 pm
kg2005
Well somebody is, and it seems pretty wolfy to jump on me for pointing that out.
October 31, 2011 at 1:35 pm
bhiggum
Well, it does appear we have a menage of Trois, so someone’s lying. It doesn’t seem like a smart wolf ploy, though.
October 31, 2011 at 1:38 pm
daneekasghost
menage of Trois
well, we’re down from 7 spookys, so I’ll call that improvement.
October 31, 2011 at 1:40 pm
spookymilk
If you guys aren’t careful, I’m going to take my ball and go home. Then nobody can play.
October 31, 2011 at 1:46 pm
greekhouse
I think this thread has seen enough of your balls.
October 31, 2011 at 1:44 pm
daneekasghost
Two questions.
First off, kg2005, why so sure that Grey is the fake Troi? I mean, wanting to kill fake Troi is a separate question (actually it’s my second one), but if that’s your plan, then why Grey and not meat as the fake?
Secondly, is it worth our time to figure out which Troi is Troi? This argument is dangerous with changelings around, but I’m leaning toward no.
October 31, 2011 at 1:48 pm
spookymilk
There are a lot of reasons for being a fake Troi, methinks. It’s about winning and not surviving, but on the other hand, some role-holders need to survive for a while in order to help their side win.
I’ll admit I didn’t notice Grey was doing a Troi, whether fake or otherwise.
…aaaaaand now I just looked at the posts. Okay, so we have two Trois, at least.
October 31, 2011 at 1:50 pm
greekhouse
Are we sure? I don’t think most Troi posts would begin with “I am most definitely…”
October 31, 2011 at 1:53 pm
cheaptoy1
Well, one of them can.
October 31, 2011 at 2:02 pm
spookymilk
He second-guesses himself at the end with “Again, it is early and I could be jumping the gun.” I…think that qualifies? I don’t know Troi enough, and if he’s Troi I don’t know what kind of questions he asked about what was allowable.
October 31, 2011 at 2:10 pm
cheaptoy1
I suppose the best way for him to prove he’s Troi is to post another confident post and see if he’s mod-killed. Its not the strategy I’d take, though.
October 31, 2011 at 2:15 pm
meat
I’m feeling a lot of anxiety around this issue, but because I’m only half Betazoid it’s probably just gas.
October 31, 2011 at 1:52 pm
cheaptoy1
I’m just gonna go ahead and pretend this is a slam on Grey’s postings.
But yeah, I don’t see a huge need, especially in the first day or two, to try to figure out who’s the Troi unless we get, like, a million fake
seerTrois plays.October 31, 2011 at 1:56 pm
mbnovak
Can I play? I want to be Q.
Actually, I would maybe want to play a simple “original flavor” game sometime, but I’d want to play with people who didn’t know what they were doing. There’s apparently too much strategy here, and it seems like being a noob would bite.
October 31, 2011 at 2:03 pm
daneekasghost
You should play in a turbo game. Very straightforward, less convoluted strategy.
October 31, 2011 at 2:05 pm
spookymilk
Ooh! What DG said. You get a small sense of how it goes, and it goes so quickly that everyone plays like a noob anyway.
October 31, 2011 at 2:07 pm
mbnovak
Does the turbo game feature John de Lancie?
That’s a good idea. I should do that sometime. 2 kids makes turbo games tough though…
October 31, 2011 at 2:23 pm
spookymilk
The turbos take less than two hours, so I feel you, but I know it’s possible (I have two kids too, but given their ages they can be self-sufficient for hours at a time).
October 31, 2011 at 2:11 pm
cheaptoy1
I was a big fan of the turbo, and as one of WW’s worst players, maybe that will help you decide.
October 31, 2011 at 2:13 pm
greekhouse
I was thinking of doing one last night, but then I didn’t. Maybe this weekend?
October 31, 2011 at 2:17 pm
daneekasghost
This weekend is bad for me (family in town). But don’t let that stop you.
October 31, 2011 at 2:04 pm
spookymilk
Everyone’s got to be a noob sometime, Matt.
I think we have a vanilla game coming soon. Grey was talking about running the next vanilla version.
Dread Pirate and greek have games on the horizon too (I do too, but I’m in no rush now that Survivor’s in full swing with a ton of competitors). I’m not sure in what order they’ll run.
October 31, 2011 at 2:13 pm
TDO
i was a noob last game, really bit me but it really sucked me into wanting to keep playing.
October 31, 2011 at 2:14 pm
TDO
unvote cheaptoy
vote adobery
he’s been quiet today, seems odd for him.
October 31, 2011 at 2:22 pm
meat
Vote Grey
Fake troi plays suck.
October 31, 2011 at 2:30 pm
cheaptoy1
I would like to see if its a troi play, or just the way he was posting on this particular day.
Grey, are you being wishy-washy on purpose or as a cover?
October 31, 2011 at 2:34 pm
spookymilk
on purpose or as a cover?
Well, those would be the same, right?
I don’t particularly want to vote for either Troi unless they give me a reason. If Trois start coming out of the woodwork, though, then maybe I’ll think hard about maybe killing one. It could be fun to kill a lot of Trois anyway, you know?
October 31, 2011 at 2:34 pm
Grey
neither really.
October 31, 2011 at 2:38 pm
spookymilk
LOL, dude.
I should have been a Troi just to make jokes like this. We all should have, although we probably all would have ended up depressed…
October 31, 2011 at 2:24 pm
greekhouse
Where’s nibbler? He’s due, right?
unvote spooky, vote nibbish
October 31, 2011 at 2:26 pm
spookymilk
For his sake, I sure hope he’s a changeling.
October 31, 2011 at 2:29 pm
rob
The best part about this is that you constantly point out that the odds of each round are independent of the previous survivor games.
October 31, 2011 at 2:31 pm
spookymilk
I think that’s the crack he’s making.
It’s true, though, that when nibbish finally plays the changeling, he’s going to take people by surprise. Or maybe he is one now and he’s going to suck so hard at it that we Wookiees sniff him out immediately!
October 31, 2011 at 2:38 pm
greekhouse
This. Plus, I always seem to think he’s a worf anyway, so I might as well just go ahead and start voting for him. Same goes for cheaptoy, although I’ve actually been right about him sometimes.
October 31, 2011 at 2:50 pm
rob
I know. I just wanted to let you know I thoroughly enjoyed that, which I imagine was your intent.
October 31, 2011 at 3:10 pm
greekhouse
Hehe, yeah. Despite all my mathiness, I’ll always play the “He’s due” card or the “He’s always a villager, so he must be one again” whenever it meets my neads. 🙂
October 31, 2011 at 2:32 pm
TDO
lady luck says nibbish will never be a wolf/changeling etc lol
October 31, 2011 at 2:38 pm
kg2005
Unvote Grey
I didn’t have a real reason to think that he was the changeling, I just wanted to go for the easy joke of killing multiple Trois. It’s probably true that a wolf wouldn’t have a reason to pretend to be Troi.
October 31, 2011 at 2:41 pm
kg2005
But maybe that’s exactly why the wolf would do it!
This game is hard.
October 31, 2011 at 2:46 pm
spookymilk
Yeah…it’s a good play for either side, if it works. If the real Troi gets killed, though, that’s when we can look at what any remaining Trois have been doing. At this point, with just two, I’m glad to wait for that moment.
As far as I can tell, the best reason to pretend to be Troi is if one is the seer (nobody can “know” if they’re the seer right now, but work with me). Changelings and Kirk also greatly benefit from it, though.
The only way it doesn’t make a ton of sense if it’s a vanillager, although if a bunch of vanillagers were pretending to be Troi it could be an effective way to hide one of the Odos, if they thought that far ahead before the game started.
October 31, 2011 at 2:49 pm
rob
To me, it falls into the spreadsheet territory. It may seem like a good idea at the time, but it’d be a royal pain to keep it up over the game’s duration and in the end, it just ends up casting doubts on the player.
October 31, 2011 at 2:51 pm
kg2005
Let’s not forget Quark, he could just be messing with us.
October 31, 2011 at 2:52 pm
spookymilk
Oh, frigging Quark. I need to be a little more familiar with roles here. Beau kept changing them. Or maybe I just thought he did, and now I’m using it as an excuse since he’s not here to defend himself.
October 31, 2011 at 3:10 pm
greekhouse
Wait, who’s the third Troi?
October 31, 2011 at 3:12 pm
spookymilk
Where are you getting that I see three? I even say “At this point, with just two” in the opening paragraph.
October 31, 2011 at 3:15 pm
greekhouse
Oh. I thought you meant “At this point” as in after we killed the first Troi.
October 31, 2011 at 3:18 pm
spookymilk
Nope, I’m definitely not advocating killing either Troi. One’s probably Troi, and the other could be the best – or possibly the worst – kill we could make.
At the very least I’d like to wait and see if any other Trois are out there. There are still some never-posteds, aren’t there?
October 31, 2011 at 2:42 pm
Grey
unvote kg2005
I just don’t know.
October 31, 2011 at 2:50 pm
adobery
He drives me mad every game. Is he or isn’t he? So I looked him up.
I am the seer. Nibbish is a nibbliger.
October 31, 2011 at 2:51 pm
spookymilk
Wait, are you frigging kidding me here?
(Either way, I approve of “nibbliger”)
October 31, 2011 at 2:55 pm
daneekasghost
yeah, this makes very little sense. I’m assuming joke.
October 31, 2011 at 2:56 pm
daneekasghost
or Quark (as pointed out above).
October 31, 2011 at 2:55 pm
spookymilk
Also, I admit I’m looking for Trois in every comment now.
adobery: “Is he or isn’t he?”
Will: “It’s just the position I’m in.”
Argh
October 31, 2011 at 3:02 pm
bhiggum
Honestly, the Trois character is a lot like the Kenny character from South Park. Those roles are just about distraction and complications.
October 31, 2011 at 3:06 pm
meat
I don’t think that my love for Riker is really that distracting from my cleavage. Maybe it is.
October 31, 2011 at 3:06 pm
spookymilk
I can’t totally agree there. Troi is an extremely useful role – seers can pretend to be Troi, and so can changelings. Nobody could pretend to be Kenny for long.
Meanwhile, when Kenny was killed, it didn’t have a lot of meaning, but if Troi gets killed we suddenly get a heaping helping of information that we can look into.
October 31, 2011 at 3:07 pm
cheaptoy1
In that case, I now know what I can expect out of Grey for the rest of the evening.
October 31, 2011 at 3:09 pm
spookymilk
Troi, whoever you are, show us your “titties!”
October 31, 2011 at 3:11 pm
meat
My heart belongs to Riker, but my titties belong to Worf. I wish I had more to give, like an extra set of titties, but I don’t.
October 31, 2011 at 2:50 pm
The Dread Pirate
vote nibbish for now because there’s now way we can both be vanillagers forever (although he did get a slightly fun role last time).
DG, I’m unable to post Tuesday and Thursdays until at least about 130 Central. On Monday mornings and all days Wednesday, I have to be careful to limit my participation due to work constraints. I’m not trying to hide or be silent – it’s just the position I’m in.
October 31, 2011 at 2:53 pm
daneekasghost
I got you. Mostly I changed my vote because I realized that you wouldn’t be around to comment until much later, so it wasn’t doing any good on you.
October 31, 2011 at 3:02 pm
dkautz
Sorry I’m late, guys. I’ve had a busy day so far, and it will probably stay busy for a while. (Wednesday might be like this too, if I make it that far.)
Bhiggum, thanks for getting me on the board this time around.
October 31, 2011 at 3:19 pm
bhiggum
No problem, now that you’re here I have to check and see who else hasn’t posted yet.
October 31, 2011 at 3:05 pm
kg2005
I have a question. As the Federation, do we want to worry about beating Quark? Or do we just care about beating the Changelings?
October 31, 2011 at 3:20 pm
daneekasghost
I’m assuming it’s like Cartman – Quark wins independently of either Federation or Changelings. So both the Federation and Quark can win in the same game.
October 31, 2011 at 5:48 pm
Beau
correct, as can the Changelings and Quark
October 31, 2011 at 3:06 pm
nibbish
Heh, hello to all of you, too.
I am a nibbliger, not a wolf (or a changeling, for that matter). This shouldn’t surprise anyone (except everyone’s trust in RANDOM.ORG).
October 31, 2011 at 3:08 pm
spookymilk
“nibbliger” is great, but I hope you’re a wolfling because “Willager” is just waiting in the wings.
Of course, if he’s a wolfling too, both nicknames are dead. Sigh.
October 31, 2011 at 3:08 pm
adobery
Update. I think this is right, pretty close at least.
adobery (2) voting for spookymilk
bhiggum voting for DK
cheaptoy (0) voting for kg2005
Daneeka’s Ghost voting KG2005
DK (1)
Dread Pirate (1) voting nibbish
Grey (1)
greekhouse (1) voting for nibbish
kg2005 (2)
meat voting for grey
nibbish (4)
rob (0) voting for adobery
spookymilk (1) voting for TDO
TDO (1) voting for adobery
October 31, 2011 at 3:10 pm
spookymilk
Thanks…I was thinking of gathering one of these. (Not as a spreadsheet, though…never as a spreadsheet)
October 31, 2011 at 3:18 pm
cheaptoy1
Holy crap, nibbs has four votes!?
October 31, 2011 at 3:21 pm
cheaptoy1
Wait, that looks strangely like a typo.
October 31, 2011 at 3:22 pm
spookymilk
Wolfishly like a typo, one might say. (Sorry, someone had to break the seal, and freealonzo isn’t here)
October 31, 2011 at 3:26 pm
cheaptoy1
But now that the seal is broken, you’re going to be accusing every twenty damn minutes,
October 31, 2011 at 3:30 pm
spookymilk
I’ll try to keep control over myself, but I promise nothing.
October 31, 2011 at 3:21 pm
kg2005
It looks like only two people are voting for him. They must both be Kirk.
October 31, 2011 at 3:31 pm
bhiggum
I’m thinking the poor ensign isn’t going to make it too long in this game- Kirk will be singled out after two votes, max.
October 31, 2011 at 3:11 pm
kg2005
Vote DG
Just because I haven’t voted in awhile.
October 31, 2011 at 3:14 pm
nibbish
Oh, Pirate, you finally got a role, didn’t you?
October 31, 2011 at 4:48 pm
daneekasghost
Sorry, I missed this when it was posted, is this a serious thought, or a play on the Pirate’s “we can’t both be villagers forever” line?
October 31, 2011 at 3:19 pm
TDO
unvote adobery vote greekhouse
I may be new, but to think Nibbish is anything other than a vanillager is sacrilege.
October 31, 2011 at 3:24 pm
adobery
My mistake. You think I’d be better at adding that up. I added Kd’s unvote instead of subtracting it I think.
adobery (2) voting for spookymilk
bhiggum voting for DK
cheaptoy (0) voting for kg2005
Daneeka’s Ghost voting KG2005
DK (1)
Dread Pirate (1) voting nibbish
Grey (1)
greekhouse (1) voting for nibbish
kg2005 (2)
meat voting for grey
nibbish (2)
rob (0) voting for adobery
spookymilk (1) voting for TDO
TDO (1) voting for adobery
October 31, 2011 at 3:26 pm
adobery
Lol, and this isn’t current with the votes above. I give up. Just trying to bridge the gap until B. Rodenberry gets back. Was worried someone would have too many votes that would get lost in 5 hours of non-updates. Seems I’m just making a mess of things.
October 31, 2011 at 3:25 pm
nibbish
You are correct.
October 31, 2011 at 3:23 pm
kg2005
Unvote DG
He was kind enough to answer my question
October 31, 2011 at 3:27 pm
cheaptoy1
unvote kg
I don’t want the new guy to get accidentally lynched on the first day because I forgot to remove my vote. I’ll try to get a better vote in when I get home tonight.
October 31, 2011 at 3:29 pm
adobery
Does anyone else only see a plushy purple stuffed animal with big eyes and a bullseye tummy when they look at cheaptoys avatar. It wasn’t until the other day and hovered that I noticed differently?
October 31, 2011 at 3:30 pm
kg2005
I didn’t before, but now I do.
October 31, 2011 at 3:33 pm
cheaptoy1
Hell, I didn’t before, now I do, and its me in that picture.
October 31, 2011 at 3:33 pm
spookymilk
I first saw it big enough to know what it was, so no. I’ll try not to see that in the future, either…
October 31, 2011 at 3:34 pm
greekhouse
That’s all I’ve ever seen.
October 31, 2011 at 3:38 pm
adobery
Ya, that’s what I meant. I’ve only seen the plushy. Can’t remember if the name “cheaptoy” influenced my perception of it either.
October 31, 2011 at 3:42 pm
cheaptoy1
All anyone really needs to know about that picture is that disaster was waiting for me shortly after.
October 31, 2011 at 3:58 pm
adobery
Don’t be a tease now…spill.
October 31, 2011 at 4:03 pm
cheaptoy1
That cookie sheet on the table was filled with water. When I leaned in to attempt to blow the match book across that water, my “Coach” slammed his hands down on the table, then turned over both cookie sheets full of water onto me.
October 31, 2011 at 3:28 pm
bhiggum
Unvote- DK
Vote- meat
I think Riker was killed by his wishy-washy lover after she discovered he was cheating on her with Guinan.
October 31, 2011 at 3:39 pm
meat
On one hand I can see how you’d think that, and on the other hand I can’t see how you’d think that.
October 31, 2011 at 3:41 pm
bhiggum
I wish you were a type of alien that had three or four hands.
October 31, 2011 at 6:33 pm
Grey
maybe this
October 31, 2011 at 3:32 pm
dkautz
I too was thinking about throwing meat a vote since I almost always vote for him at some point, but since he’s got the appearance of Troi, I’m not sure. Are we of the opinion collectively that possible Trois should be kept alive for the time being?
October 31, 2011 at 3:36 pm
nibbish
Other than the fact that she’s not incredibly helpful, Troi is a villager, and purposefully going after a villager doesn’t make much sense.
Of course, if wolves start taking advantage of that and hiding behind Troiisms, then we might need to clear house.
October 31, 2011 at 3:40 pm
dkautz
I was just wondering about it since we have at least two people acting like Troi, and one of them’s not her. I don’t think it’s a good idea to kill one today, either, but a fake-Troi may end up looking like a wolf later on.
October 31, 2011 at 3:42 pm
nibbish
Yes, they would, but I suppose that’s the risk they run for playing such an aggressive move so early in the game.
October 31, 2011 at 3:45 pm
spookymilk
Yes, exactly. Besides the many reasons to pretend to be Troi, we can also just wait for itself to play out and glean our answers from there. If there were six or seven Trois I’d consider killing one, but for now I’m content to let one tip his hand, either by misspeaking or by eventually coming forth as an Odo.
October 31, 2011 at 3:39 pm
cheaptoy1
I’m liking the hold off on voting Troi thing for now, since there isn’t a load of info on the two Troi plays for the time being and at this point, there’s good reasons for a lot of people to fake it.
That said, meat seems to have thrown himself into the role pretty good, so I’m inclined to believe that he’s telling the truth.
October 31, 2011 at 3:40 pm
nibbish
We should keep mindful of the fact that if someone else IS troi, they’re not going to be able to back it up with much.
October 31, 2011 at 3:45 pm
cheaptoy1
True, and it’ll probably be a decent thing to look for in a day or two. but Spooky’s stated risk that a seer could be playing up the fake Troi angle to protect themselves from the wolves has scared me straight for today.
October 31, 2011 at 3:49 pm
nibbish
It probably wouldn’t hurt to set up a Troi watch so that we can eliminate those who couldn’t possibly be Troi.
October 31, 2011 at 3:49 pm
spookymilk
I thought that’s what DG was doing in South Park.
Then he turned out to be effing Cartman. Ahem.
October 31, 2011 at 3:40 pm
bhiggum
I guess I don’t think a wolf/changeling would put a big target on their back by pretending to be what is a pretty obvious role, but at the same time, how long could someone get by pretending to be Troi? It isn’t worth wasting a Odo peek over, IMO, but I guess I’m not going to be pressing to vote either one of them off right away.
October 31, 2011 at 3:35 pm
dkautz
That last post came out more uncertain than I’d like, so since I don’t believe that I’m serving the good of the Federation by being unclear, I’d like to state a few things.
First, this is my opinion, but I am confident DS9 is the best Trek series.
October 31, 2011 at 5:55 pm
Beau
I agree it is the best. But it doesn’t have Patrick Stewart, so it is not my favorite.
October 31, 2011 at 3:36 pm
dkautz
Secondly, however, I am just as confident that Jean-Luc Picard is the best Trek captain.
October 31, 2011 at 3:40 pm
adobery
Well, we’ve eliminated DK from being Kirk.
October 31, 2011 at 3:41 pm
nibbish
I agree with this.
October 31, 2011 at 3:39 pm
nibbish
Similarly, in order to remove any doubt, I will make my second declarative post now.
Worf’s kid is a cancer that permeates every episode unfortunate enough to include him in any way.
October 31, 2011 at 3:42 pm
dkautz
Agreed.
October 31, 2011 at 4:55 pm
meat
You have no right to talk about Alexander Rozhenko like that. How dare you, sir. Actually, you totally have the right to your opinion. I’m sorry. I don’t judge you, I heart you.
October 31, 2011 at 3:40 pm
kg2005
Vote greekhouse
Why not Zoidberg?
October 31, 2011 at 3:46 pm
bhiggum
<Unvote- meat
Vote- cheaptoy
I like switching votes a lot. It’s even more fun in a turbo game.
October 31, 2011 at 3:50 pm
spookymilk
I like how nobody votes more often than you, but html is still your enemy.
October 31, 2011 at 3:55 pm
bhiggum
And it won this round, damn it.
October 31, 2011 at 3:46 pm
adobery
I’m getting a vibe on DK…that and I’m the seer and I peeked him.
unvote Spooky
vote dkautz
October 31, 2011 at 3:51 pm
spookymilk
Are you Quark?
October 31, 2011 at 3:54 pm
adobery
Have you been talking to my wife? Just cause a guy likes his ear’s rubbed does not make him a Ferengi.
October 31, 2011 at 6:07 pm
spookymilk
Here’s a tip to any single dudes out there: I have never, ever met a girl who didn’t like her ears rubbed (or lightly bitten).
Well, I guess it’s possible that I’ve met them, but wasn’t in a position to chew on their earlobes.
October 31, 2011 at 7:07 pm
bhiggum
Biting and chewing? Sounds like someone isn’t choosing his words too carefully- otherwise, good tips for the single dudes.
October 31, 2011 at 7:09 pm
spookymilk
Ha! Didn’t consider that.
October 31, 2011 at 7:32 pm
cheaptoy1
Thumbs up to that. I can’t state whether I agree on the Capt. Kirk or Capt. Piccard debate, but I can weigh in on this.
October 31, 2011 at 3:52 pm
daneekasghost
I’ll unvote: kg2005.
On a separate note, count me on the “reluctant to kill Troi” side.
October 31, 2011 at 3:53 pm
TDO
So far from my 2 games this is what I learned.
Adobery always plays a fake seer role
nibbish always a vanillager
cheaptoy always spills his role.
So what’s new?
October 31, 2011 at 3:53 pm
bhiggum
Unvote- meat
Vote- cheaptoy
Let’s try that again, with the right tags and everything.
October 31, 2011 at 4:00 pm
nibbish
More interesting than the idea of killing Troi is whether or not we, as villagers, should kill Quark, should he come to light. He can play a limited seer for the changelings, and serves no purpose to actual villagers.
Thoughts?
October 31, 2011 at 4:03 pm
dkautz
I think it’s a good idea to kill Quark if we have a better idea of who he is than we do of any of the wolves. Killing Quark is better than killing any villager, but later on in the game, we will probably have more evidence to figure out who the wolves are, and killing them is better than killing Quark.
October 31, 2011 at 4:03 pm
spookymilk
Yeah, I’ve been hoping Quark would come out on his own under the whole “There’s no benefit to killing me” strategy DG pointed out with Cartman, but now that you’ve laid it out he probably won’t. nibs, if the village loses I blame it 100% on you, regardless of your role.
October 31, 2011 at 4:17 pm
spookymilk
Ugh, it just occurred to me that as a haver of kids I’ll almost certainly be missing the deadline here, unless we trick-or-treat from about 4-6, which might be early, even for a sleepy town like this.
I’m going to miss the potential fireworks here. Bummer.
October 31, 2011 at 4:21 pm
cheaptoy1
Oh yeah, its Halloween isn’t it? My kid isn’t old enough to go out yet, so I’ll be around as much as I can.
October 31, 2011 at 4:24 pm
TDO
dead end street means i wont have very many kids come to my house, and i have no kids (or wife) so i’ll just eat the candy myself 🙂
October 31, 2011 at 4:27 pm
spookymilk
I’m at a dead end, but it’s part of a largish community with a lot of families and I expect it’ll be busy around here. I hope so.
October 31, 2011 at 5:52 pm
rob
We don’t celebrate halloween, so I’ll be around at least a little while today. Before too long, though, I’ll be off to bottle some Irish Stout.
October 31, 2011 at 4:26 pm
daneekasghost
vote: bhiggum
Those who have votes don’t seem too enticing to me, and bhiggum hasn’t been justifying much of his voting actions (I realize it’s day 1 and that this is a flimsy justification – but hey, I made the effort, he hasn’t).
October 31, 2011 at 4:27 pm
daneekasghost
I should say, those who have single votes. GH has played day 1 differently than in the past, I wouldn’t be surprised to see some votes go his way soon.
October 31, 2011 at 4:34 pm
adobery
Looking back, it does seem so. Not much game related thought yet. I still wouldn’t kill him on day 1.
Course the same could be said for my helpfullness so far today.
October 31, 2011 at 4:36 pm
kg2005
I’ve noticed this as well. My justification for my vote was “Why not Zoidberg?”, but really I’d like to see him defend himself.
October 31, 2011 at 5:03 pm
greekhouse
My defense–it’s 4 hours til the deadline and I’ve been busy at work. Wait until later to pass judgement.
October 31, 2011 at 5:07 pm
spookymilk
Five hours. Beau’s dealing in CST, since that’s where most of the players are. Or maybe because that’s where he is, and he’s too dumb to figure out what time it is elsewhere. Yes, I am only being a dick because he’s not here.
October 31, 2011 at 5:08 pm
kg2005
That’s fair. I’m not totally convinced about anybody, so for now I’ll just stick with “Why not Zoidberg?”
October 31, 2011 at 5:11 pm
greekhouse
Why not not Zoidberg?
October 31, 2011 at 5:12 pm
adobery
Why not knot Zoidberg?
October 31, 2011 at 5:26 pm
greekhouse
Why not not know Zoidberg?
October 31, 2011 at 5:26 pm
greekhouse
Dammit! *knot.
October 31, 2011 at 5:28 pm
spookymilk
Would it be overly dickish of me to point out that you also misspelled “judgment” earlier? Yes? Alright, never mind.
October 31, 2011 at 5:35 pm
greekhouse
I blame spell check. Also, you misspelled “Spooky is a dick”.
October 31, 2011 at 5:36 pm
spookymilk
I’d never misspell that. I’ve certainly never denied it…
October 31, 2011 at 4:38 pm
TDO
i think i’ll stick with greekhouse for now.
October 31, 2011 at 4:50 pm
meat
Here are my flip-flopping feelings on today’s action:
1 Grey either is Troi, or he isn’t
2 Adobery isn’t the Seer, or he is. Anyway, he’s a nut with nuts, but he has no balls because spoons took them away.
3 You shouldn’t go back and look at what I’ve said, but I don’t care if you do. Wait, I do care, but not about you. I only have eyes for my dead lover. And that alien that will knock me up later in the game if I live that long. And Worf. or Warf. And Kelly Wells. That Holodeck experience was awesome. And gross.
4 Killing a Troi is a good idea if you kill the right one, and by right one I mean not the actual Troi. Killing actual Troi will only anger the god of titties, but he really doesn’t have any influence here, so, whatevs.
5 I have some wicked gas, or is that anxiety? Probably a little from column A and a little from column B, but there’s no way to tell for sure.
6 I wish I could make up my mind, but I keep hearing voices. It’s kind of like that chick in Medium, except I don’t dream them, I don’t live in Arizona, and none of them tell me that they’ve been murdered. So, I guess it’s not like that at all.
7 I forgot what 7 was supposed to be. Oh, yeah, I love sandwiches, but not the ones where they put too much Mayo on the buns if you know what I mean.
October 31, 2011 at 4:52 pm
kg2005
I hope you’re the real Troi.
October 31, 2011 at 4:57 pm
spookymilk
I don’t care if he’s the real one or not (I’ll care soon enough, but you feel me). I just hope he’s not given a reason, no matter what that reason is, to stop being Troi anytime soon.
October 31, 2011 at 5:14 pm
meat
I feel that I need to mention something about that chlamydia you gave me… It’s a really potent strain. You should have that checked out by a professional. Or don’t. I’ll just let you live your life, I’ll live mine.
October 31, 2011 at 5:13 pm
kg2005
Unvote greekhouse
Why not not Zoidberg?
October 31, 2011 at 5:20 pm
greekhouse
unvote nibbish, vote adobery
Why not Quark?
October 31, 2011 at 5:23 pm
spookymilk
Yeah. There’s a small upside and no obvious downside to killing Quark, if we think we have him.
adobery might be pretending to be Quark to hide one of many other roles, though, so I’ll…sit.
October 31, 2011 at 5:56 pm
adobery
Because I hate Quark. I much prefere Adobe Indesign. See my name.
You have the wrong guy.
October 31, 2011 at 6:08 pm
bhiggum
I’m going to sit on my vote until Beau gets back and gives us a count. If adobery can’t get the vote count right, I’m sure to eff it all up if I try.
October 31, 2011 at 6:17 pm
Beau
I think this is right.
adobery (2) voting for DK
bhiggum (1)voting for cheaptoy
cheaptoy (1)
Daneeka’s Ghost voting for bhiggum
DK (1)
Dread Pirate voting for nibbish
Grey (1)
greekhouse (2) voting for adobery
kg2005 voting for greekhouse
meat voting for grey
nibbish (1)
rob voting for adobery
spookymilk voting for TDO
TDO (1) voting for greekhouse
3 Hours, 43 Minutes until NIGHT
October 31, 2011 at 6:19 pm
spookymilk
It looks like an annoying and meaningless day one spread, so yeah, I assume it’s all correct.
October 31, 2011 at 6:24 pm
kg2005
As of about an hour ago I am no longer voting for greekhouse.
October 31, 2011 at 6:29 pm
greekhouse
It think it’s something like:
Nibish (41)
Spooky (3)
Rachel (1)
or something like that.
October 31, 2011 at 6:25 pm
meat
Unvote Grey
Vote Adobery
Unvote Adobery
Vote Grey
Unvote Grey
Vote Adobery
Unvote Adobery
Vote Grey
Unvote Grey
Vote Adobery
Unvote Adobery
Vote Grey
Unvote Grey
Vote Adobery
Unvote Adobery
Vote Grey
Unvote Grey
Vote Adobery
Unvote Adobery
Vote Grey
Unvote Grey
Vote Adobery
Unvote Adobery
Vote Grey
Unvote Grey
Vote Adobery
I’m just so wishy-washy.
October 31, 2011 at 6:27 pm
adobery
Heh, best vote ever. Except me being the target of course.
October 31, 2011 at 6:27 pm
kg2005
Vote adobery
Maybe we should get some discussion going this way. It’s quite possible he tipped his Quark hand before he realized it would be a decent option for the villagers.
October 31, 2011 at 6:28 pm
Beau
adobery (3) voting for DK
bhiggum (1)voting for cheaptoy
cheaptoy (1)
Daneeka’s Ghost voting for bhiggum
DK (1)
Dread Pirate voting for nibbish
Grey
greekhouse (1) voting for adobery
kg2005
meat voting for adobery
nibbish (1)
rob voting for adobery
spookymilk voting for TDO
TDO (1) voting for greekhouse
October 31, 2011 at 6:29 pm
Beau
add one more vote to adobery to the above…you guys are too fast. Adobery has 4 votes against him.
need 8 for majority
October 31, 2011 at 6:30 pm
kg2005
I actually felt kind of slow, I didn’t realize meat was also voting for adobery when I cast my vote.
October 31, 2011 at 6:30 pm
adobery
Heading straight out for trick-or-treating after I get home and not sure if I’ll make it by the deadline. Going to keep my vote on DK as that’s the only one who’s given me any tingleys besides GH.
Hopefully I don’t get strung up cause I’m not Quark, just a villager.
October 31, 2011 at 6:38 pm
greekhouse
So ok, I’m not so sure about voting Quark here. Also, I’m not 100% sure adobery is Quark. Although, it seems like if he’s not, he’s gotta be a wolf, so I don’t think fake Quark is a good idea.
Anyway, it’s time for this game to start getting real.
unvote adobery, vote KG
October 31, 2011 at 6:40 pm
kg2005
Wait a minute, I don’t like getting voted at for real.
October 31, 2011 at 7:02 pm
nibbish
Yeah, that shit sucks for serious.
October 31, 2011 at 6:41 pm
spookymilk
Anyway, it’s time for this game to start getting real.
What, no more seven strangers picked to live in a house and be polite?
Anyway, I’m in favor of game-getting-realness, but I’d like to hear how you’ve decided that targeting KG is proof of the game’s realitude.
October 31, 2011 at 6:50 pm
greekhouse
I dunno, it’s day one. His last post seemed a bit wolfish to me for some reason.
October 31, 2011 at 6:42 pm
kg2005
Also, your logic doesn’t make sense to me. By your logic, wouldn’t it be good to vote for adobery? You think that even if he was faking we would get a wolf.
October 31, 2011 at 6:49 pm
greekhouse
I’m not saying it’s a horrible idea, but piling on a perceived Quark doesn’t really end up doing much for us long term, does it?
October 31, 2011 at 6:56 pm
spookymilk
Well, it might, if (as kg suggests) adobery is likely either Quark or a wolf. If we kill Quark, the wolves are deprived of their only seer ability.
But, as always, claiming a neutral role (not that adobery is currently doing so, but he seemed to be kicking it around) is also a good strategy for one of the good guys to stay alive.
October 31, 2011 at 7:06 pm
daneekasghost
I’m not saying it’s a horrible idea, but piling on a perceived (neutral role) doesn’t really end up doing much for us long term, does it?
This has been my contention in more than one game (Cartman, Homer, etc.).
Neutral moves do nothing for the village (almost as if that’s the definition or something) but they also remove debate and potential wolf-trapping situations (close votes that force a wolf to take sides, an incidental wolf-targeting that forces wolves to make odd voting choices, etc.). Early in the game, its best to try to force those situations even if it results in a villager lynching.
Quark will still be here later, the wolves can’t kill him without knowing that’s what they’re doing (the whole bargaining thing), so he’ll be around in future days if villagers feel like they need a neutral kill for some reason. To do it on day one is to say, “Let’s try this again with one less of us, and not much more information.”
October 31, 2011 at 7:10 pm
spookymilk
The fact that Quark has a potential benefit to the wolves doesn’t come into it for you, then? Are you assuming Quark makes the virtuous decision?
October 31, 2011 at 7:18 pm
bhiggum
Yeah, Quark isn’t a true neutral- he could really screw over one side or the other. I’m not sure what the best timing would be for voting him off, but I wouldn’t worry about losing him early. At best, Quark lies to the wolves and gains one of the power roles one more night, but I guess I’m not that clear on how his strategy to out-last Odo should be played.
October 31, 2011 at 7:25 pm
greekhouse
I feel like you’re overselling how much damage Quark can do to the village. If they get to him late, the seer is already out. If they get to him early, he doesn’t have much of a chance of finding the actual seer.
October 31, 2011 at 7:25 pm
daneekasghost
@spooky – There is that. I was looking at it from the “we don’t kill a villager” argument.
I’m assuming that Quark will tell the truth when it suits his aims and it will be impossible to predict what he’ll do with non-important information.
@bhiggum – Cartman and Homer weren’t really neutral either (Cartman was trying to kill Kyle and Homer was a villager). I just think the information gained from a debated vote is better than a forgone conclusion vote.
October 31, 2011 at 7:28 pm
kg2005
I think Quark HAS to tell the truth since he wants Odo dead. What does it benefit him to lie about it? He wants the wolves to have as much information as possible.
October 31, 2011 at 7:37 pm
spookymilk
@greek – that’s true. I guess now that you mention it I’ve been acting under the worst possible case scenario with Quark finding the real seer.
October 31, 2011 at 8:17 pm
bhiggum
@greekhouse- you’re probably right, he is only going to give the wolves one piece of information that they can’t even truly trust unless he’s saying he saw Odo.
@daneekasghost- I wasn’t saying we should go after adobery on the suspicion he’s Quark, I just wanted some more clarification on if we should be actively trying to find Quark or if that’s info we don’t want the changelings to have.
October 31, 2011 at 8:23 pm
spookymilk
@bhiggum – Well, I was under the impression that the only reason to find Quark was to kill him. We certainly wouldn’t find him and then leave him alone, taking the chance that the wolves would use him for a seer peek.
Since the odds of Quark finding a seer not even all that good in the first place, it’s probably true that killing Quark isn’t all that beneficial.
October 31, 2011 at 6:45 pm
meat
I would like to talk to you about your strategy, but I fear for my life, and womanhood, if I’m alone with you.
October 31, 2011 at 6:44 pm
Grey
I guess I should vote.
I feel like maybe i should be more verbose, but meat’s gonna take the spotlight anyway, so I guess I just don’t care about enough to try to prove anything….
But i don’t know, so I’m going to have to make something up.
vote spooky
i think.
October 31, 2011 at 6:45 pm
spookymilk
Okay, I know which Troi I believe now, mister.
October 31, 2011 at 6:49 pm
meat
It’s him. I know it because I can feel it, either that or you’re just happy to see me.
October 31, 2011 at 6:51 pm
spookymilk
Can’t it be both?
October 31, 2011 at 7:05 pm
kg2005
Unvote adobery
Because if we do vote him off now, who is going to fake-seer the village to victory?
October 31, 2011 at 7:06 pm
Beau
adobery (2) voting for DK
bhiggum (1)voting for cheaptoy
cheaptoy (1)
Daneeka’s Ghost voting for bhiggum
DK (1)
Dread Pirate voting for nibbish
Grey voting for spooky
greekhouse (1) voting for kg2005
kg2005 (1)
meat voting for adobery
nibbish (1)
rob voting for adobery
spookymilk (1) voting for TDO
TDO (1) voting for greekhouse
spookymilk voting for TDO
TDO (1) voting for greekhouse
8 for Majority. 2 HOURS, 54 MINUTES until night
October 31, 2011 at 7:07 pm
spookymilk
That is bowling shoe-ugly.
October 31, 2011 at 7:09 pm
Beau
my bowling shoes are gorgeous, thank you
October 31, 2011 at 7:48 pm
cheaptoy1
My bowling shoes are actually quite attractive as well, so the above is much uglier than bowling shoes.
October 31, 2011 at 7:09 pm
nibbish
So…
Adobery is either Quark, or a role player hiding as Quark. If he’s been told he’s the seer, there’s a one half chance that he’s useless to us (Chakotay), and a one half chance that he’s our best hope in this game (Odo). I suppose he could be Kirk, but I don’t know that Kirk would play so cautiously, since his role isn’t quite as important.
Or he’s a wolf. So if he *is* a role player, there’s a good chance that even if we kill him, we do little or no harm to ourselves (Chakotay is slightly less useful than a random villager, and potentially a great deal more dangerous to the village than one).
This post would probably have been more convincing coming from Meat.
October 31, 2011 at 7:11 pm
daneekasghost
then again, probably not.
October 31, 2011 at 7:12 pm
daneekasghost
But seriously folks, this (to me) would be a more reasonable rationale for voting adobery than “He’s Quark! get him!”
October 31, 2011 at 7:15 pm
spookymilk
I don’t think adobery is Quark, which is why I’m worried about him.
I think there’s a possibility Quark would come out on day one, but I don’t think there’s a great possibility that adobery specifically, as Quark, would come out as day one.
I do think it’s possible that a guy like adobery would pretend very subtly to be Quark and then pull back, with the seed planted.
October 31, 2011 at 7:26 pm
nibbish
Maybe, but would he do that with good intentions?
October 31, 2011 at 7:26 pm
dkautz
Chakotay doesn’t know he’s Chakotay, right? It would seem likely that Chakotay would try to protect himself just like any real seer would early on.
Adobery has posted claiming to be the seer twice, with different lookups (one of nibbish and one of me), which is impossible. So he’s either lying for a purpose, or just fucking around, which seems unproductive at best to me if he’s a villager or either of the seers, and not helpful to his own standing.
October 31, 2011 at 7:31 pm
nibbish
Chakotay doesn’t know he’s useless (and in fact damaging) to the village. He thinks he’s a savior.
October 31, 2011 at 7:34 pm
greekhouse
If Cahkotay knew who he was then you may as well just call him “villager”.
October 31, 2011 at 7:36 pm
dkautz
What I’m saying is, it doesn’t make sense to me for either Odo or Chakotay to be pretending to be Quark by pretending to have looked up two different people on the first night. Chakotay shouldn’t be acting any differently than you’d expect any seer to act.
Which is to say, I don’t see Adobery as either of those roles right now.
October 31, 2011 at 8:06 pm
greekhouse
At least one of those is a lie, obviously. I don’t think I understand what you’re trying to say.
October 31, 2011 at 8:08 pm
dkautz
I’m saying I don’t think Adobery is Odo or Chakotay.
October 31, 2011 at 7:10 pm
daneekasghost
Hmm, 10 votes for 9 people. Again.
October 31, 2011 at 7:12 pm
nibbish
A village full of Trois, we are.
October 31, 2011 at 7:24 pm
meat
I see what you tried to do there, but really I don’t get the joak.
October 31, 2011 at 7:27 pm
TDO
unvote greekhouse vote kg2005
I am going with the noob vote on this one for now….
October 31, 2011 at 7:30 pm
nibbish
Any particular reason for this?
October 31, 2011 at 7:34 pm
TDO
well spreading our votes out isn’t doing anything and i figure might as well make it like an initiation. so no, no reason for this.
October 31, 2011 at 7:37 pm
meat
unvote Adobery
Vote Grey
Unvote Grey
Vote KG2005
I sense a deep and dark place inside the soul of KG2005, but his gravatar makes me hungry for a sandwich. Oh, dear. What am I supposed to do?
Unvote KG2005
Vote Grey
October 31, 2011 at 7:40 pm
greekhouse
I’m glad I’m not in a public library when I’m reading these posts.
October 31, 2011 at 7:44 pm
TDO
why, i actually enjoyed meat’s concept of a god of titties, now that would be a conversation starter on any resume.
October 31, 2011 at 7:52 pm
cheaptoy1
I really hope you’re not lying. I would like this to continue all game.
October 31, 2011 at 7:54 pm
kg2005
Vote TDO
Because I just don’t know anymore.
October 31, 2011 at 7:55 pm
cheaptoy1
vote DG
This is my “in case I can’t find a good vote, I don’t want a strike” vote. Everyone but meat and adobery is playing all not-risky today. I need to go back and look at adobery’s “seer peeks” though. I’m a little iffy on the idea of claiming peeks for two different people, smacks of fibbing.
October 31, 2011 at 7:57 pm
spookymilk
When he claimed one I figured he was goofing around, and when he claimed a second I knew he was. I figured he was Quark after that, but then I thought he might be pretending to be Quark and was, indeed, Odo who of course might be Chakotay…
October 31, 2011 at 8:00 pm
Beau
adobery (1) voting for DK
bhiggum (1)voting for cheaptoy
cheaptoy (1) voting for DG
Daneeka’s Ghost (1) voting for bhiggum
DK (1)
Dread Pirate voting for nibbish
Grey (1) voting for spooky
greekhouse voting for kg2005
kg2005 (2) voting for TDO
meat voting for grey
nibbish (1)
rob voting for adobery
spookymilk (1) voting for TDO
TDO (2) voting for kg2005
Need 8 for majority (ha!). 2 HOURS until night.
October 31, 2011 at 8:02 pm
TDO
Reading about Quark it stats that he can only peak if he is targeted. Considering the wolves cant target anyone tonight, in theory doesn’t that mean quark would not be able to peek at anyone yet? So what does anyone have to gain by pretending to be quark on day 1 when quark has nothing to offer anyone on day 1 (or am i understanding wrong?)
October 31, 2011 at 8:04 pm
spookymilk
The wolves can’t target anyone tonight?
Did I miss a rule somewhere? My entire reasoning behind not worrying about meat and Grey hinges on the idea that the wolves DO get to kill someone tonight.
October 31, 2011 at 8:04 pm
TDO
***meant to say the wolves cant target anyone until tonight***
October 31, 2011 at 8:07 pm
spookymilk
More to your point, pretending to be Quark (or actually being Quark, and admitting it) can be very advantageous. If Quark doesn’t think either side will kill him because they’re focusing on other targets, he’s free to come out with it. Daneeka’s Ghost played Cartman a couple of games ago and proved this was true – he came out as Cartman and as a result, nobody bothered to kill him.
October 31, 2011 at 8:13 pm
nibbish
A big part of that was because he couldn’t be used to the wolves’ advantage. Quark wouldn’t necessarily be, but he could be, and he serves no good purpose to the villagers.
Cartman was just a meddling dick.
October 31, 2011 at 8:16 pm
spookymilk
This is why I’m just not sure if adobery was hoping we’d think he was Quark or not. He had to have seen the one possible danger there – he either saw it and didn’t think it was enough danger, he was being very un-adobery and didn’t see it, or he was merely screwing around on day one as he often does and never expected those cracks to follow him around like they currently are.
October 31, 2011 at 8:19 pm
cheaptoy1
As masterfully as DG played that, it makes me wonder if he is a meddling dick in real life, or just really good at pretending to be.
October 31, 2011 at 8:20 pm
spookymilk
He isn’t a meddlesome dick in Survivor, so I assume he’s really not.
October 31, 2011 at 8:23 pm
kg2005
I’ve decided it’s not a good idea to target Quark. He doesn’t give the wolves a real advantage, even though (as I outlined before) he’s pretty much forced to tell the truth about what he saw if he wants to win.
My reasoning is this: what good does it do for the wolves to get a seer? They’re just losing a kill, and what is a kill for them but a peek at the now dead villager? So there’s no real reason to go after Quark.
October 31, 2011 at 8:23 pm
greekhouse
Seriously guys, can stop focusing on whether or not adobery is Quark for a sec and instead focus on something else? For instance, KG is a wolf. Discuss.
October 31, 2011 at 8:24 pm
kg2005
Counterpoint: KG is not a wolf.
October 31, 2011 at 8:27 pm
cheaptoy1
Hmm, you both make convincing arguments….
October 31, 2011 at 8:32 pm
TDO
i’ll agree with cheaptoy for the first time.
October 31, 2011 at 8:41 pm
cheaptoy1
We’ve made some good progress here today.
October 31, 2011 at 8:31 pm
dkautz
Well, he went after a Troi before people decided not to go after Trois, and he went after maybe!Quark before people debated whether to go after a Quark. Other than that, I’ve got nothing.
October 31, 2011 at 8:32 pm
kg2005
These are examples of me trying to start conversations and find things out for the village.
October 31, 2011 at 8:34 pm
cheaptoy1
As someone who had fun jumping on bandwagons back during my first game because I didn’t know how ruthless you all are, it could just be noob jitters.
October 31, 2011 at 8:36 pm
spookymilk
In the “kg2005 is a wolf file”:
*Voted for one of the Trois when one is definitely Troi and the other is not necessarily a Changeling.
*Shot back pretty quickly at Grey for defending himself.
*Voted for greekhouse, when greekhouse is likely a night target for the wolves anyway and is a great asset to the village if alive (and with the village, obviously)
*A little defensive, but hey, first-timers usually are.
*Responded to this with “No, I’m not” but didn’t give a reason.
October 31, 2011 at 8:37 pm
cheaptoy1
Poor greekhouse.
October 31, 2011 at 8:49 pm
greekhouse
I give myself a 10% chance of making it to day 3.
October 31, 2011 at 8:40 pm
TDO
it appears i need to pay more attention as most of this went unnoticed by me.
October 31, 2011 at 8:42 pm
spookymilk
In fairness, I wasn’t giving kg a lot of thought until greek asked if he was a good target. I did a search of kg’s comments and that’s when I wasn’t sure if I liked what I saw.
October 31, 2011 at 8:34 pm
TDO
unvote kg vote greekhosue
Im going back to greekhouse, he seems to really want to focus on kg. Is there a reason behind this gh?
October 31, 2011 at 8:40 pm
daneekasghost
Does bhiggum deserve a look, or have I convinced myself that something is there when in fact, nothing is?
October 31, 2011 at 8:43 pm
spookymilk
bhiggum is someone who always talks a lot but betrays very little about what he is. He’s nibbishy in that way.
October 31, 2011 at 8:46 pm
dkautz
He did also cast a vote for a Troi for a little while earlier.
October 31, 2011 at 8:47 pm
spookymilk
Yeah, I don’t get that move. The wolves will probably give us info on that situation tonight with their targeting. No need to do their work for them.
October 31, 2011 at 8:48 pm
dkautz
Sorry, are you saying voting Bhiggum is doing the wolves’ work, or voting for a Troi is?
October 31, 2011 at 8:50 pm
spookymilk
Voting for a Troi is doing the wolves’ work. Voting for bhiggum is something I could see myself open to tonight, if convinced.
October 31, 2011 at 8:51 pm
daneekasghost
not sure I can make a convincing argument right now, but if he’s around, maybe we should apply some pressure there and see what turns up?
October 31, 2011 at 8:47 pm
daneekasghost
Initially yes, but it seems like he usually comes around and starts setting some well-justified (as well as can be this early, anyway). Haven’t seen it yet today.
October 31, 2011 at 9:01 pm
bhiggum
I haven’t seen anything worth jumping on yet. The best info we have is one of the Troi-itties is fake, but likely not a wolf, and that adobery is not one of the Odos, or he’s playing a very risky game. The one guy I really, really suspect is kg, but I don’t want to TDO him if he’s just being a typically aggressive noob.
October 31, 2011 at 8:47 pm
cheaptoy1
I thought being nibbishy was always being a villager but randomly making verbal gaffes to get everyone to go at you only to find out you were, once again, a villager.
October 31, 2011 at 8:41 pm
spookymilk
Unvote TDO vote kg2005
Killing greekhouse is just not a great move for the village early on…if he’s alive in a couple of days we can demand to know why then. This is partially to protect greek from getting killed but partially because after scanning kg’s comments, I have legitimate concerns.
October 31, 2011 at 8:53 pm
greekhouse
Poor KG. We’re gonna end up losing another n00b on day 1 and he’s never going to want to play with us again. Either that or he’ll get the itch.
October 31, 2011 at 8:54 pm
kg2005
I’ve enjoyed myself so far. Whether I play again all depends upon how things go at my new job.
October 31, 2011 at 9:00 pm
greekhouse
I’ll feel a little bad if you get voted out. Especially since it was largely my doing. That said, I’m still voting for you if I feel it’s the right thing to do.
October 31, 2011 at 8:54 pm
spookymilk
It’s never personal, KG!
Plus, TDO came back after he got a load of votes on day one. If he can, anyone can.
October 31, 2011 at 9:00 pm
cheaptoy1
And if you have any help here today, its that most people are scared of jumping on a major bandwagon on day 1.
October 31, 2011 at 8:43 pm
kg2005
In my defense:
It was my idea that I would come out firing today accusing people fairly randomly to get conversations going and ideas about specific roles and how they should be played discussed. If I were playing my first game as a wolf I would not be nearly as talkative and would do my best not to draw attention to myself.
October 31, 2011 at 8:53 pm
dkautz
Vote bhiggum
I’ll do this for now, at least, as I’d like him to come back around and talk some about the day as kg2005 has been induced to do.
October 31, 2011 at 9:01 pm
greekhouse
I’m not smelling anything funny coming from bhiggs yet. Can somebody give me the argument here? I just went through his posts. Looks pretty much standard imo.
October 31, 2011 at 9:02 pm
cheaptoy1
Well, he is voting for me even though I’m boring.
October 31, 2011 at 9:05 pm
bhiggum
cheaptoy, you’ve greatly improved at this game- boring is way better than lynched. I’m waiting to see if anything better turns up (well, besides kg), but I don’t suspect you as of now.
October 31, 2011 at 9:07 pm
cheaptoy1
I try to get a good mix of boring and irreverent. I should probably start talking about beer pretty soon.
October 31, 2011 at 9:05 pm
daneekasghost
My feeling was that he hasn’t put any justifications behind his votes (early on that’s understandable, but as the day has gone on, an argument or two would be beneficial.) He also voted for meat at around 3:30, when it had more or less been decided that Trois weren’t great targets.
I freely admit that I don’t have a strongly convincing case here, but if it gets him into the conversation and gets some people to take a position on him, I think that’s worth it.
October 31, 2011 at 9:10 pm
dkautz
I agree with this. The meatTroi vote is the primary thing for me, just as the GreyTroi vote seems to be a strong piece of evidence used against kg. I think (if you look at Spooky’s list of evidence against kg above) the differences could be chalked up to bhiggum being experienced and knowing not to be reactionary and defensive, and kg not being so experienced (and not knowing not to vote against GH on day one).
I’m not saying I think bhiggum is more wolfy than kg is, but I don’t think he’s any less at this point. If someone can change my mind about kg or someone else, I’m willing to listen.
October 31, 2011 at 9:14 pm
kg2005
My immediate thought for voting for a Troi was that if there were two Trois one of them must be a wolf. Once we decided that probably wasn’t the case I immediately backed off of that. Plus it was early so I figured it wouldn’t hurt to throw out a feeler vote.
October 31, 2011 at 9:14 pm
bhiggum
I am busy with a project at work (night shift supervisors have great hours), so my lack of posting is because of that.
Still, I think I’ve been fairly active today, and nearly the entire don’t-vote-Troi discussion came after 3:30, right after I voted for meat, so I’m not sure where you are going with that part.
October 31, 2011 at 9:01 pm
Beau
adobery (1) voting for DK
bhiggum (2) voting for cheaptoy
cheaptoy (1) voting for DG
Daneeka’s Ghost (1) voting for bhiggum
DK (1) voting for bhiggum
Dread Pirate voting for nibbish
Grey (1) voting for spooky
greekhouse (1) voting for kg2005
kg2005 (2) voting for TDO
meat voting for grey
nibbish (1)
rob voting for adobery
spookymilk (1) voting for kg2005
TDO (1) voting for greekhouse
59 MINUTES until night
October 31, 2011 at 9:07 pm
kg2005
Unvote TDO
Had no real reason to vote for him to begin with.
October 31, 2011 at 9:09 pm
The Dread Pirate
unvote nibbish for now because I’m still not sure for whom to vote. I suppose I might revote for him once the deadline gets closer, but I might not depending upon the ongoing discussion.
October 31, 2011 at 9:09 pm
TDO
part of me earlier on thought greekhouse was a wolf, at this time I dont remember. i get the kg vote and love the term “TDO him” and see the points on him. Right now Im drawn between these 2 guys but hesitant to make a final decision yet.
October 31, 2011 at 9:20 pm
greekhouse
Urban dictionary has a very different definition of this word.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tdo
October 31, 2011 at 9:21 pm
cheaptoy1
Face pooping and dick outlines? Its a wild time out beyond the black.
October 31, 2011 at 9:37 pm
TDO
lmao hopefully a few of my tecmo bretheren will not find that…unless they put that up. TDO is an old nickname i recieved online back in 03.
October 31, 2011 at 9:17 pm
meat
Oh balls. I wish spooky hadn’t have taken all the balls away. Riker had the most bitchin’ balls I’ve ever seen. Like four on the vine, so divine. Where was I? Is that burning hair I smell? Do you guys smell that? Oh, right.
unvote grey
Vote KG2005
Wait, adobery has a lot of hair, maybe I was smelling him…
unvote KG2005
Vote Adobery
No, no, no. I want a sandwich
unvote Adobery
Vote KG2005
October 31, 2011 at 9:18 pm
cheaptoy1
Alright, I went back through kg’s votes. Maybe its because of my first game, or maybe I’m just trying to be nice to the new guy to give him a chance to exist on day 2, but I’m not convinced enough that he’s a wolf to vote for him. Consider:
Most of his votes in the beginning were “why the hell not, someone has to vote for someone early on” votes. A lot of people do things such as that regardless of their role.
There was the jumping on the menage a troi thing, but I feel people new to the game have a strong tendency to want to jump on “roles” right away because, hey, they’re defined.
After greekhouse brought his possible wolfiness up, he had to engage in some defense/damage control, which is something I know well from experience.
So, I think its entirely possible that he is and entirely possible he isn’t and is making a TDO out of day 1. (but not a solid TDO as he hasn’t aggressively gone after anyone in particular.)
October 31, 2011 at 9:20 pm
kg2005
Thank you. These are the points I have been trying to make, but I didn’t think anyone was listening.
October 31, 2011 at 9:25 pm
cheaptoy1
I know what its like to be railroaded for things others have done as well. Of course, that doesn’t mean I won’t use it against you tomorrow if you get there, if the additional evidence presents itself. Just trying to stay alive and find some changelings, yo.
October 31, 2011 at 9:21 pm
spookymilk
I have to head out now, but I leave you with the immortal words of Malcolm “Mal” Reynolds in Star Trek: Atlantis: “Let’s go kill some Cylons.”
October 31, 2011 at 9:27 pm
cheaptoy1
I’m half tempted to try to last second adobery into a three way tie as payback for what happened in South Park.
October 31, 2011 at 9:27 pm
meat
unvote KG
Vote Grey
I just don’t feel hungry, and my crotch itches. I’m going to have to settle where I started, but maybe I’ll change my mind after the itching and burning stops.
October 31, 2011 at 9:30 pm
Beau
adobery (1) voting for DK
bhiggum (2)voting for cheaptoy
cheaptoy (1) voting for DG
Daneeka’s Ghost (1) voting for bhiggum
DK (1) voting for bhiggum
Dread Pirate
Grey (1) voting for spooky
greekhouse (1) voting for kg2005
kg2005 (2)
meat voting for Grey
nibbish
rob voting for adobery
spookymilk (1) voting for kg2005
TDO voting for greekhouse
30 Minutes until NIGHT
October 31, 2011 at 9:43 pm
greekhouse
For all that’s been said about “railroading” KG, I feel the need to point out that he only has 2 votes and I don’t think he’s ever had more than 3. That’s enough evidence for me to stick my vote with him for the rest of the night. He’s hardly getting TDOed here, which suggests a hint of lycanthropy.
October 31, 2011 at 9:46 pm
cheaptoy1
Oh, I didn’t mean to say he’s being railroaded at the moment, but I know how fast these things can happen, and it sucks.
October 31, 2011 at 9:47 pm
kg2005
I don’t feel like I’m getting legitimately railroaded. I do feel like I’ve drawn a bit more suspicion than I deserve.
October 31, 2011 at 9:50 pm
greekhouse
Yeah, but we’ve been talking about you for an hour and you’ve managed to receive two votes! It might not be your fault, but that just screams werewolf to me.
C’mon guys, let’s all vote KG or he’s all we’re going to talk about tomorrow.
October 31, 2011 at 9:53 pm
dkautz
Couldn’t the same thing be said about bhiggum at this point, too? He’s been stuck on two votes for an hour as well.
October 31, 2011 at 9:43 pm
nibbish
Vote Adobery
I’m still a little weirded by the fake-Quark thing, and the chances are, if he’s hiding, he’s a bad guy (or at the very least someone the village can afford to lose). I’m not 100% on this, but I don’t have time tonight to disseminate everything. Sorry, dude.
KG seems pretty wolfy, but I’m chalking that up to first time jitters.
October 31, 2011 at 9:47 pm
meat
I’m getting a feeling that I could be wrong about a lot of things. Least of which is who is to blame for me burning sensation.
October 31, 2011 at 9:49 pm
cheaptoy1
I’m going to guess Scotty with the way you said “me burning sensation” there.
October 31, 2011 at 9:47 pm
TDO
hmmm are you saying you are imaginging you are a wolf or that kg has wolflike qualities?
(yes i had to look up lycanthropy)
a delusion in which one imagines oneself to be a wolf or other wild animal.
2.
the supposed or fabled assumption of the appearance of a wolf by a human being.
October 31, 2011 at 9:52 pm
greekhouse
Lycanthrope=werewolf.
So I’d assume lycanthropy is the act of being a werewolf. I dunno, I’ve never bothered to look it up though.
October 31, 2011 at 9:50 pm
Grey
My worry here, or wait, no. I mean that if I. No.
Ok. So sometimes it’s weird when people keep, um.
I don’t understand why meat keeps voting me when some of the other people said something about not voting troi… but maybe I’m just making stuff up in my head again. Probably. I doesn’t matter at this point anyway.
I keep thinking that he’s using all this imagery to convey a message to us but then it’s all so convoluted and rooted in geeky imagery that I’m just like, “what?!?” and all sorts of other things like, horny. But that’s fading now too anyway.
October 31, 2011 at 9:57 pm
meat
I’m just saying, in a totally non judgmental way, my titties (all four) are just a little bit better than your two titties. Not better in terms of quality, but in terms of quantity. I suppose though you could look at it differently. Say Riker was into a woman with just two lumpy breasts maybe that makes your titties better than mine. I’m just not sure what to think.
October 31, 2011 at 9:50 pm
Beau
adobery (2) voting for DK
bhiggum (2)voting for cheaptoy
cheaptoy (1) voting for DG
Daneeka’s Ghost (1) voting for bhiggum
DK (1) voting for bhiggum
Dread Pirate
Grey (1) voting for spooky
greekhouse (1) voting for kg2005
kg2005 (2)
meat voting for Grey
nibbish voting for adobery
rob voting for adobery
spookymilk (1) voting for kg2005
TDO voting for greekhouse
10 Minutes until NIGHT
October 31, 2011 at 9:53 pm
greekhouse
1. Adobery is a poor choice.
2. bhiggum is a less poor choice.
3. kg is best choice.
October 31, 2011 at 9:56 pm
The Dread Pirate
I’m not sure I’m seeing your reasoning beyond them going after the Trois. Could you explain?
October 31, 2011 at 9:58 pm
greekhouse
I don’t understand this sentence. Could you please rephrase it?
October 31, 2011 at 9:56 pm
greekhouse
Guys. It’s 2-2-2-1-1-1-1-1-1 right now. Stop being such fucking pussies and vote for somebody that has 2.
October 31, 2011 at 9:59 pm
bhiggum
You know, I ended up following your lead last game when we killed a Springfielder early. Do you think we learn something by voting kg, even if we’re wrong about him being a changeling?
October 31, 2011 at 10:00 pm
greekhouse
I think it’s better than lynching some random villager at this point.
October 31, 2011 at 9:57 pm
TDO
unvote greekhouse vote kg2005
sorry kg, i have my suspicions of greekhouse but nothing firm enough to prevent a majority tonight. next best choice is as gh says imo.
October 31, 2011 at 9:57 pm
kg2005
Vote adobery
I know that I’m not a wolf. I don’t know that he’s not a wolf. Therefore I know that it’s better for him to be out than for me to be out.
October 31, 2011 at 9:58 pm
The Dread Pirate
I guess I’ll vote kg2005 by placing my confidence in GreekHouse today. I hope we didn’t just continue our new guy tradition, but I’m not sure we have much else to work with.
October 31, 2011 at 9:59 pm
cheaptoy1
unvote DG
vote adobery
October 31, 2011 at 10:00 pm
cheaptoy1
I just couldn’t see a new guy get nailed last minute and adobery’s seer thing threw up some flags for me. (a
October 31, 2011 at 9:59 pm
kg2005
Crap. I didn’t have much to do tomorrow. Well, you guys made a mistake tonight. If greek isn’t lynched tonight he’s probably somebody to look at.
October 31, 2011 at 9:59 pm
meat
Unvote Grey
Vote Adobery
I still feel like grey is a better choice, but I’ve looked into adobery’s soul and know that he’s no good. Well, he’s a little bit good. Not all bad. Just bad enough for me to be attracted to him.
October 31, 2011 at 10:00 pm
The Dread Pirate
unvoter kg2005, vote adobery because he’s been annoying
October 31, 2011 at 10:01 pm
Beau
this vote will NOT count
October 31, 2011 at 10:00 pm
Beau
*** IT IS NIGHT ***
Day begins at 9 am CST, or 10 am EST.
October 31, 2011 at 10:06 pm
Beau
Final Voting: Day 1
adobery (5) voting for DK
bhiggum (2)voting for cheaptoy
cheaptoy (1) voting for adobery
Daneeka’s Ghost voting for bhiggum
DK (1) voting for bhiggum
Dread Pirate voting for kg2005
Grey voting for spooky
greekhouse (1) voting for kg2005
kg2005 (3) voting for adobery
meat voting for adobery
nibbish voting for adobery
rob voting for adobery
spookymilk (1) voting for kg2005
TDO voting for kg2005
October 31, 2011 at 10:08 pm
daneekasghost
you have 4 people voting for kg, but his vote tally is at 3.
October 31, 2011 at 10:09 pm
TDO
dread pirates vote doesnt count as it was too late, that is probably why
October 31, 2011 at 10:11 pm
cheaptoy1
Or maybe there’s a secret Scott Bakula role who’s vote just doesn’t count.
October 31, 2011 at 10:09 pm
greekhouse
Should be 4 for KG.
October 31, 2011 at 10:15 pm
Beau
working on figuring this out now…
October 31, 2011 at 10:17 pm
Beau
adobery (5) voting for DK
bhiggum (2)voting for cheaptoy
cheaptoy (1) voting for adobery
Daneeka’s Ghost voting for bhiggum
DK (1) voting for bhiggum
Dread Pirate voting for kg2005
Grey voting for spooky
greekhouse voting for kg2005
kg2005 (4) voting for adobery
meat voting for adobery
nibbish voting for adobery
rob voting for adobery
spookymilk (1) voting for kg2005
TDO voting for kg2005
Fixed. I hadn’t made TDO’s last vote change yet. Thanks for the heads up!
October 31, 2011 at 10:29 pm
Beau
“Normally I would love the big crowds,” Quark says to Odo. “But everyone is so nervous over this alleged Changeling infiltration that nobody is buying anything, or gambling, or using the holosuites!”
“Be careful,” Odo replies. “You might be next.”
“And you’d just love that, wouldn’t you?”
“Hrunh!” Odo grunts, leaving Odo behind as he checks out the increasingly bustling crowd. Looking up, he sees why.
“We found a Changeling!” is heard from the upper level of the promenade. A man in a Star Fleet uniform is hurled over the edge. A loud cracking noise is heard, as Odo rushes to the scene.
Feeling no pulse, Odo looks up at the crowd, disgusted. “You couldn’t wait for a blood test? You idiots just killed Worf!”
beau(Commander William T. Riker, died happy)adobery(Lieutenant Commander Worf, lynched)bhiggum
cheaptoy
Daneeka’s Ghost
DK
Dread Pirate
Grey
greekhouse
kg2005
meat
nibbish
rob
spookymilk
TDO
October 31, 2011 at 10:33 pm
Beau
okay, everyone is confused. Worf is a vanillager. I just wanted to give him a name.