Werewolf ABTown: Day Two

December 18, 2014 in Uncategorized | by spookymilk

As the rednecks whistled and tried to act casual while they swept up the pile of uberminz, the wolves were elsewhere in the park, cornering a victim.

“I am a wolf,” one said.

“I am a wolf,” said the next.

“I am a wolf,” said the other two, in unison, because they stupidly hadn’t decided beforehand the order in which they’d speak.

“I’m a wolf too. I’ve been saying it all day,” said the victim, who wasn’t lying. The wolves were unconvinced, and rent him asunder.

Elsewhere, other revelers were wondering when they’d be added to the narrative. You’ll get your chances, dudes.

~~uberminz~~ Day 1, burnt at the stake by anti-intellectuals
~~daneekasghost~~ Night 1, couldn’t convince the wolves he was a wolf
bhiggum
Colin
Dread Pirate
gingefringe97
inkarnit
joepunman
kg2005
meat
nettiebarron
novak
TDO
todahshy
yickit

NIGHT will again fall at 9pm Central. I’ll be around. I have to judge Play with the Prose tonight, but this is easy enough to keep up with so I won’t keep you waiting.

Your competition, and also you

HALL OF CHAMPIONS

SPOOKYMILK SURVIVOR

I: Rachel “The Double-Dealer” Flynn

II: Ryan “The Snake” Fossum

III: Patrick “The Gentleman” Kozicky

IV: Brienne “The Submitter” Maner

V: Rusty “The Porn Star” Greene

VI: Brooks “The Unlikely Hero” Maki

VII: William “The Soulful” Schuth

VIII: Brooks “The Survivor” Maki

IX: Zack “The Ice Cream Man” Sauvageau

X: Pete “The Vacuum Cleaner” Bruzek

Turbo: Brooks “The 1956-1979 Montreal Canadiens” Maki

XI: Matt “The Cold-Hearted Motherf*&^er” Novak

All-Stars (XII): Andy “The Quiet Man” Rustleund

XIII: Sarah “Clarence’s Hope” Bizek

XIV: Dan “The Professional” Kautz

XV: Christina “Assault And” Pepper

XVI: Matt “The First-Time Player” Novak

XVII: Stacy “Saintly Patience” Snell

XVIII: Brian “Checkmate” David

XIX: Annette “Eammon for the Top” Barron

XX: Daniel “Neville “Smash “Hardware” Hardwood” Longbottom” Caouette

XXI: Pete “The Comeback Kid” Bruzek

XXII: Dan “The Even More Professional” Kautz

XXIII: Melissa “Don’t You (Forget About Me)” David

XXIV: Stacy “Fucking” Snell

GODS AND MORTALS
I: Dragging Rivet’s Name Through the Mud One Last Time: Matt Novak (Ultragrandpa) and Michael Rivet (Friph Flipher-Fiph)
II: Bahambo Number 5: Pete “Triple Crown” Bruzek and Michelle “Single Tiara…So Far” Pratt

BIG BROTHER
I: Brooks “Oh, for the Love of God” Maki
II: Michael “#DDB” Rivet
III: Pete “Fortune’s Fool” Bruzek
IV: Erin “All Seven and We’ll Watch Them Fall” Leslie
V: Jake “Littlefinger” Elliott

FALL, CAESAR
2014: Brooks “The Creator” Maki
2015: Matt “The Artist” Novak
2016: Matt “Waited Them Out” Novak
2017: Annette “I Would’ve Voted for You” Barron

THE ROYAL RUMBLE
2013: #21 Greg “The Gallant Glutton of Greatness” Johnson
2014: #29 Jonathon “Big Papa” Pope
2015: #8 Christina “Am I in This?” Pepper
2016: #22 Annette “No Backs Stabbed” Barron
2017: #30 Bernice “The Vulture” Nicaise
2018: #17 Carrie “Solid Gold” Bard
2019: #16 Jake “The Jabroni” Elliott

PLAY WITH THE PROSE
(Writing, non-elimination)
I: Sarah “Centipede Face” Johnson
II: Sarah “The Johnson Eliminator” Wreisner
III: Colin “Lonely Old Moon” Woolston
IV: Melissa “Not Sidebar Material” Diamond
V: Sama “No Family Reunions” Smith
VI: Sarah “Tumor Face” Wreisner
VII: John “Cult Following” Wreisner
VIII: Joshua “Peed the Bed” Longman
VIII: Annette “Oh, Right, That’s Who Won” Barron

WEREWOLF (most recent)

Werewolf Stats Spreadsheet

PUZZLE CHALLENGE
I (Pure): Matthew “The Obsessor” Gilman
I (Power): Kelly “The Novak-Destroyer” Wells

DIPLOMACY
I: Matt “Exploiter of Worlds” Novak (France)

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December 18, 2014 at 9:05 am

todahshy

Yickit
Annette
Ginge are definites

TDO still my choice for 4th

Will be able to type more in 30 mins

December 18, 2014 at 9:28 am

nettiebarron

How can you suspect me after our time on the Ferris wheel? Also, I’m still not a wolf.

December 18, 2014 at 9:29 am

TDO

What makes you think I’m a wolf?

December 18, 2014 at 9:09 am

joepunman

Ya know, now I’ve gotta be careful leaving this up on my work computer. Not sure how folks are going to take “Assbutttown”

December 18, 2014 at 9:22 am

AMR

I first read it as “Assbutton”.

December 18, 2014 at 9:47 am

spookymilk

Amended it slightly, but leaving a game of Werewolf up at work is going to look weird regardless of the name of the fake town, I would think.

December 18, 2014 at 9:15 am

TDO

I’m thinking we have newer wolves, or someone(s) trying to shake things up. I don’t understand why they would kill of DG who was going to be hit or miss as a target for us.

yickity, claw, and dp- I’d like to hear reasons for your vote last night.

Lastly, the flavor text is awesome. Funny and good stuff, thanks spooky.

December 18, 2014 at 9:35 am

yickit

I didn’t think uber was a wolf, plus as is obvious from my votes, I like to shake things up. Plus it was the first day, so I figured I could get a little silly. I probably should have just left my vote for the pirate, but man did he get mad when I wouldn’t switch to uberminz. To be fair I was on my phone and couldn’t get through all the posts to see why uber was the target.

I think my vote for colin last night was clear. Thats his tag, grey wasn’t anywhere that I could see. If I had wanted to vote for inkarnit, I would have written inkarnit.

December 18, 2014 at 9:39 am

inkarnit

Well thanks for not voting Inkarnit. No need to charbroil me for the wolves. They’d probably prefer me raw.

December 18, 2014 at 10:36 am

joepunman

I saw that Ginge was not going to get to a majority, so I had to choose between Uber and Nettie. Ultimately, there were some questionable posts from earlier in the day that made me pick Uber. However, I could’ve easily voted for either one.

December 18, 2014 at 9:30 am

inkarnit

Well, good? morning folks. I have to say I was surprised to see that things shifted to uberminz last night. I didn’t think he was seriously on the list of possible wolves but… There it is. And poor Brooks got eaten! That doesn’t make much sense. He looked sufficiently like a wolf that we might have lynched him without their interference. Now I’m just confused. Who all voted uber? And why?

December 18, 2014 at 9:42 am

bhiggum

I voted uber because I wanted to vote for someone who wasn’t giving us much info, but I didn’t want to vote for someone that hadn’t been around at all. I left my vote on him all the way through because he never claimed to be the seer.

December 18, 2014 at 9:45 am

TDO

I voted uber early because he was just on the fence the whole game, but when I thought I start to see people gang up on him I pulled my vote for fear of majority. I hinted i may put it back there to possibly bait the wolves into going that way. I know DP was busy but I’d like to hear why he went late onto uber without much reason on his part.

I’m with you about Brooks being eaten, it doesn’t make much sense. I’m also not convinced your a villager. Your insight into why they would kill Brooks after a very newbish day 2 almost screams of nighttime wolf gameplan for day 2.

December 18, 2014 at 9:45 am

TDO

*after a newbish day 1 it should say

December 18, 2014 at 9:57 am

inkarnit

Lol if I was a wolf I definitely wouldn’t have eaten Brooks. He was defending me yesterday. He’d be the perfect cover. Novak and you seem convinced I’m a wolf. I would have eaten one of you 😛

December 18, 2014 at 9:31 am

inkarnit

Also I see Assbutttown is for real. This is… Exciting.

December 18, 2014 at 9:37 am

yickit

Vote Dread Pirate

Should have kept it there last night. So I think I’ll just start there.

December 18, 2014 at 10:17 am

inkarnit

Why do you think DP is a wolf? I had suspicions but nothing concrete enough yet. What are your thoughts?

December 18, 2014 at 11:33 am

yickit

Werewolf #?: Day One

No real reason, except for his reaction to my vote. I didn’t want to pile onto uber, and I’m not convince nettebar is a wolf … yet.

December 18, 2014 at 11:36 am

inkarnit

But if you were a wolf, you’d obviously be defending Annette, who like… everyone… thinks is a wolf. Hmm.

December 18, 2014 at 11:46 am

yickit

I’m personally not convinced she is a wolf, because of the reasons I said below.

But if I knew she were a wolf, and I were a wolf I wouldn’t have jumped on uber just because I would know he wasn’t a wolf as well. Which is why I’m being pegged as a wolf. I get that.

December 18, 2014 at 6:12 pm

The Dread Pirate

I’m wolfy because I reacted to your vote exactly the same way as kg and Novak? That’s pretty weak.

December 18, 2014 at 6:15 pm

yickit

I also said as much. About it being relatively weak that is.

Seriously.

December 18, 2014 at 6:52 pm

The Dread Pirate

Gotcha. I was just coming on my first readthru as I went down.

December 18, 2014 at 6:52 pm

The Dread Pirate

Coming, commenting. Same thing, right?

December 18, 2014 at 9:44 am

nettiebarron

I’ve got to go get ready for work. Just so you know, I’m on Pacific time. So, last night when I was briefly gone right before the vote, I was driving home.

December 18, 2014 at 9:46 am

TDO

Good to know, thanks for the clarification. I think most players are central time. I’m eastern though for what its worth.

December 18, 2014 at 9:52 am

todahshy

I’m est as well.

December 18, 2014 at 9:55 am

yickit

*Raises Hand*

Me too until we leave DC for ND this weekend for the holidays.

December 18, 2014 at 9:47 am

todahshy

vote Annette

Here’s my reasoning from above. Annette was acting very wolfy all day and the voting yesterday really confirms my suspicions.

Yickit knew he couldn’t hop on uber the villager to be the kill vote but also could not vote on Annette his fellow wolf and force a tie so he did a non vote thinking as a new player thT was his safest option. But no it wasn’t.

TDO started the uber train (someone can fact check me on that but that’s what my memory says) then hopped off knowing he was a villager once there was already enough damage done to start the bandwagon and switched to someone who wad kind of in the running but not really to keep himself looking clean.

December 18, 2014 at 9:48 am

todahshy

Ugh phone formatting fail. Sorry guys.

December 18, 2014 at 9:52 am

spookymilk

I fixed it.

December 18, 2014 at 9:57 am

yickit

What happens with a tie? I didn’t have time to figure it out before the deadline.

December 18, 2014 at 9:58 am

inkarnit

Hmm. That could explain some things but… I dunno. Something doesn’t seem right there.

December 18, 2014 at 10:00 am

TDO

This is actually pretty good reasoning. I’m not a wolf. I think I may have started the uber thing, but I did say at least once yesterday I just wanted him to talk more and never really tried to persuade anyone towards him. My only push yesterday was for ginge.

December 18, 2014 at 10:13 am

gingefringe97

Which I still don’t understand why. I was active all day, and with having no real knowledge of the game, switched my votes multiple times due to very convincing arugements

December 18, 2014 at 10:05 am

yickit

I kinda just like changing my vote around. Usually gets me voted out early in these sort of games. I mean I kinda can’t resist.

*shrugs*

But I am working on it.

December 18, 2014 at 10:00 am

inkarnit

Who was DG suspicious of yesterday? My memory sucks.

December 18, 2014 at 10:02 am

TDO

I think it goes to sudden death but I don’t remember. I’m glad you asked because I almost changed my vote to force a tie because I felt uber was getting bandwaggoned and his last post made me wonder if he was the seer.

however I really needed to leave when I did and I think during sudden death you have to be present. Spooky or someone more knowledgeable can we get clarification?

December 18, 2014 at 6:14 pm

The Dread Pirate

This is quite wolfy. The old “I want someone else to do my homework for me because I’m too busy to go back and look” argument from the person who went back and gathered yesterday’s votes.

December 18, 2014 at 6:25 pm

Inkarnit

True… I do go back and copy/paste yesterday’s votes here. That was quite an effort. I didn’t go back and read everything though. There’s like… 618 comments or something!

December 18, 2014 at 10:14 am

gingefringe97

Letting everyone know, I will not be present most of the day due to taking finals I should be back on around 130

December 18, 2014 at 10:18 am

inkarnit

Noted. *glares at people*

December 18, 2014 at 10:28 am

Colin

I’m here and catching up. I don’t have any appointments for the next hour or so, so I’m going to be around. will be around on and off all day. will be gone during the usual dinner/bath/bed routine with the kids, 5pm-8pm or thereabouts.

December 18, 2014 at 10:28 am

daneekasghost

***DEATH RATTLE***

Damn you wolves, don’t you know a kindred spirit when it bites you?

Go village!

***DEATH RATTLE***

December 18, 2014 at 10:36 am

kg2005

I mean, it’s gotta be Novak, right?

December 18, 2014 at 10:37 am

inkarnit

No idea… to be honest, everyone seems pretty wolfy to me. I have no idea how to figure this out.

December 18, 2014 at 10:38 am

inkarnit

Is that nuclear option still on the table?

December 18, 2014 at 10:43 am

kg2005

If I’m Novak and DG drops that last post before night, I poop my pants a little and then I immediately have him killed. Even as wolfy as DG seems sometimes, the wolves didn’t want to leave him around because he was on to something.

December 18, 2014 at 10:49 am

inkarnit

I missed that last post. Let me go back and look.

December 18, 2014 at 10:51 am

inkarnit

Oh the parting shot post with the linkback… I see.

December 18, 2014 at 10:59 am

joepunman

And see, I look at that and think that the wolves are trying to make us target Novak next.

December 18, 2014 at 11:03 am

inkarnit

That’s a good point too. Dammit every time I think I know something someone comes in with their stupid sense-making.

December 18, 2014 at 11:10 am

kg2005

Yeah, that logic is a great way to be a wolf, kill DG, and still try to save Novak.

December 18, 2014 at 6:17 pm

The Dread Pirate

I’m not understanding kg’s argument here. (I’m not saying it’s a bad argument, just that it’s not clear to whom he’s responding.)

KG, are you saying:

a) Novak is wolfy because he knew killing DG would look too suspicious and we would all look the other way because “he would never do something that obvious”, or

b) Novak is a villager because the wolves are probably trying a set-up?

Both seem plausible, but I’m just trying to see what you’re hinting at.

December 18, 2014 at 10:42 am

inkarnit

So we have it here for reference…
FINAL VOTING Day 1

uberminz 6 (nettiebarron)
nettiebarron 5 (uberminz)
gingefringe97 3 (nettiebarron)
kg2005 1 (uberminz)
bhiggum (uberminz)
novak (nettiebarron)
inkarnit (gingefringe97)
Dread Pirate (uberminz)
daneekasghost (nettiebarron)
joepunman (uberminz)
todahshy (gingefringe97)
meat (nettiebarron)
yickit (kg2005)
TDO (gingefringe97)
Colin – (uberminz)

December 18, 2014 at 10:47 am

inkarnit

Analysis from a n00b:

uber and Annette voted for each other, which only made sense since they were the top vote-getters. Doesn’t tell us much.

ginge, novak, DG, and meat were on the Annette train, and considering DG’s death seems to be potentially meaningful…

kg, bhigs, DP, joepunman, and Colin were all on the uber train… which didn’t seem like a good train to be on but I was gone for that last 45 minutes.

me, todahshy, and TDO stayed on ginge for his wolfiness… verdict still out here on whether that’s right.

yickit was the sole voter for kg, but switched to that last minute and seems pretty confident about a DP vote today… seer? Are kg and DP wolves?

December 18, 2014 at 10:46 am

mbnovak

Good morning. I’m pretty much not available this morning, will be somewhat in the afternoon (while watching kids, hopefully they nap), then from about 3:45 on I’ll be out for the night, driving a few hours to catch my brother’s play, then driving back. I will try to check in after the play, but no promises I’ll get a chance.

I had this big theory worked out that Brooks was trying to set me up, and I was going to point out that if he was a wolf, that would be a great move to make if most of the new players were villagers, since, obviously, “oh no, Novak!” and all that crap (and indeed, historically it’s absolute crap in Werewolf… let’s not get into it…). So I thought his wolfiness would tell us a lot. But he’s not a wolf, so… I’m not sure what to think about that.

Alright I’m off to watch my kid’s Christmas thingy, back this afternoon.

December 18, 2014 at 11:11 am

kg2005

I was so excited about that last post if,
A. You were a wolf and he nailed you
B. He was a wolf and was playing an awesome setup

However, if it was
C. You were both villagers and he was wrong

I’ll be very disappointed.

December 18, 2014 at 11:16 am

inkarnit

We could find out. But is there someone we are more sure about being a wolf?

December 18, 2014 at 11:17 am

kg2005

Not yet, but we’ll let the day play out.

December 18, 2014 at 12:40 pm

mbnovak

You’ll be very disappointed.

December 18, 2014 at 10:50 am

TDO

I;m most interested to hear from DP. As a veteran player I’m intrigued to know why he switched his vote somewhat last second. A less that sturdy reason would sound wolfy to me. I’m giving him a pass for not explaining himself last night as he had a lot going on. Today gives him plenty of time to esplain hisself 😛

December 18, 2014 at 10:51 am

todahshy

I never thought Brooks was a wolf. He would never betray me like that.

December 18, 2014 at 11:09 am

daneekasghost

**corpse chuckling**

December 18, 2014 at 11:12 am

inkarnit

Now that’s just… creepy.

*stabs DG’s corpse in the head to prevent it from rising as a werewolf*

December 18, 2014 at 10:52 am

inkarnit

I’m with TDO here. I want to hear it. Until I hear a satisfactory explanation:

vote Dread Pirate

December 18, 2014 at 10:55 am

TDO

nettiebarron – Some people had pegged as wolf, but I didn’t see much. Maybe we should revisit.

gingefringe97 not giving up on karn-ginge connection, but it’s low on my list
kg2005 1 ugh, always the hardest player for me to read. no clue yet
bhiggum don’t remember much from him yesterday
novak seems to be a villager, but knows how to play the wolf villager and might be a good disguise if grouped with mostly newby wolfs.
inkarnit not giving up on karn-ginge connection, but it’s low on my list
Dread Pirate jumped on uber with no comments, i’m intrigued
daneekasghost i think his usual wolfy day one leading to a wolf death night one speaks of possibly a newb majority wolf clan
joepunman don’t remember much input from joe yesterday, why
todahshy doing good analysis, albeit against me, so I think villager, but could be a devious wolf going for the ol’ wolf bait gary trick.
meat Not sure
yickit bounced votes around without much substance, weird.
TDO 2 legit 2 quit (being a villager) hey hey
Colin – very silent, almost reeks of wolfiness to me. I want to hear more from sir Grey.

December 18, 2014 at 10:56 am

TDO

daaaamn it i should have used breaks between people. oh well. above is my thought for each person.

December 18, 2014 at 10:59 am

inkarnit

Format for ease of reading: fail

But I still read and understood. It’s all good.

December 18, 2014 at 11:15 am

todahshy

Inkarnit has dropped way down on my list too in hindsight. Yickit’s move was way more sketchy than anything inkarnit did. But inkarnit is still in my secondary wolf class.

December 18, 2014 at 10:56 am

nettiebarron

On the bus, but wanted to point out that Todashy is awful quick on the trigger today with his list of wolves. Makes me suspicious. Saying now that I was “wolfy” all day yesterday. I’m not even sure I know what that means, but I know I’m not a wolf. Maybe he does, too.

December 18, 2014 at 11:02 am

inkarnit

I dunno… I don’t fully agree with his list but you and yickit certainly looked suspicious to me. Though lots of people did. I am leaning towards yickit looking suspicious because he’s a seer who doesn’t want to out himself yet though. You still look wolfy. Unwolf yourself for us please?

December 18, 2014 at 11:06 am

Colin

This was something that stuck out to me as well, and on my first read of day one today I focused on Toadahshy a lot. He is very quick to name his suspects but stuck to them all day, which is not necessarily very wolfy behavior. What I was looking for was an inconsistency in his reasons for voting, and I didn’t find any.
I mention this because I thought of it too, but I don’t think it’s something to go on yet.
Ok, I have a post coming up with some of my thoughts.

December 18, 2014 at 11:07 am

joepunman

Nettie – Don’t know why, but I think she’s a wolf. Call it… claw’s intuition
Novak – I’m really split. He JUST won Survivor. Me think ne needs to be killed just for that. But the more I see him on here, the more I think he’s a villager, which makes me more suspicious of him being a wolf.
Dread Pirate – he’s another that just feels very wolfy to me.
TDO – his post above asking yickit, DP and me for reasons why we voted feels villagery to me.
inkarnit – some things he said yesterday seem very villagery.
ginge – feels like he’s playing a newb wolf
kg – haven’t seen enough
bhiggum – haven’t seen enough
Grey Colin – leaning wolfish
meat – haven’t seen enough
todahshy – leaning villagery
yickit – insane villager a la DG
joepunman – definitely a villager

December 18, 2014 at 11:12 am

yickit

yickit – insane villager a la DG

That is probably the only time I’ll be compared to DG during a game.

December 18, 2014 at 11:14 am

inkarnit

Not if you get lynched or eaten today/night. Then you’ll be compared as “killed just like DG”. That’ll be a second time!

December 18, 2014 at 11:33 am

Colin

can you give a little more than “feels wolfy to me?” Like, what are you seeing in ginge, me, nettie, novak. These kind of vague posts just for the sake of posting make me think that you’re just trying to get some blame on some folks without anything to back it up, rather than trying to get me to take a look at someone.

December 18, 2014 at 11:58 am

joepunman

really, it’s me putting my thoughts on screen. Sometimes I don’t have a lot of cold hard facts to go on, it’s just a vibe I get from your posts.

Ginge – when new people play wolves, they tend to be apprehensive, not wanting to share a lot of information so as to give themselves away.

Novak – he just won a Survivor game passing himself off as a newb. He’s good at these types of games.

Nettie – She voted me off of Survivor.

You – one of your posts yesterday just gave me a wolfish vibe. (can’t remember which one, and I don’t feel like sludging through all of yesterday’s posts right now. However, you’re low on my list, so don’t worry too much 🙂

December 18, 2014 at 12:10 pm

Colin

no worries. and thanks for the follow up.

December 18, 2014 at 11:16 am

todahshy

Other than Annette has anyone gone back to see who Brooks accused yesterday? That could be some vital info we don’t want to miss.

December 18, 2014 at 11:19 am

inkarnit

Well he voted for Annette but he might have had other suspicions. Kg pointed out his apprehension about novak.

December 18, 2014 at 11:21 am

nettiebarron

He voted meat early on, I think.

December 18, 2014 at 11:24 am

inkarnit

Yeah but I don’t think we can put too much stock into early votes. Someone voted DG early on too. He turned out to be innocent. Not that meat is off the hook but I don’t think reading into DG’s vote for him is going to help us.

December 18, 2014 at 11:21 am

inkarnit

Shit. I just realized that with Brooks dead we have no one to track the votes. Stupid wolves!

December 18, 2014 at 11:28 am

Colin

I’m copying and pasting TDO’s post and putting my own thoughts in. this is taking me forever to write as my phone keeps ringing, but here is what I’ve seen so far.

nettiebarron – seems like a newb for sure, being all over the place with reasoning and such, but beyond that I don’t have a read.

gingefringe97 – more wolfy newb than villagery newb, but hard to tell as I don’t know him/her.

kg2005 – kg and I battle almost every game, and I’m not feeling any different about his starting the novak train early today. I get it, and I do know that kg likes to put heat on people to see what happens, so I’m not leaning wolf here yet. still, it seems weird and opportunistic to drum up a novak vote.

novak’s posts yesterday were few and mostly innocuous or just being silly. not like the novak that I usually see day one. I don’t what else to say about him given his absence. I’m not worried about it yet.

inkarnit – his frenetic posts and almost forced “what’s going on here, guys?” are either super-noob or noob wolf trying to hide in plain sight. I’m thinking more the former.

Dread Pirate- not much to go on here either.

joepunman only saw a few posts from him, nothing to go on.

todahshy was suspicious until I went through yesterday and focused on him. seems more to be hunting and placing votes where he thinks they should go.

meat not much to go on, as usual. meat likes to play a quiet game on either side, so nothing here yet.

yickit late night votes with no reasoning and no help to the village looks like a wolf trying to avoid suspicion, and then coming in today defending his vote on me as “clear.” nothing clear about it , IMO, as there was no reason to vote me other than what he calls “just being silly” (totally plausible).

TDO: normal TDO. his comment about me is weird, given how I explained my absence, and have been pretty active when I’m able to, but is putting the most out as far as analysis goes, and seems to be playing the same game he usually does.

So, so far my top suspects are:

1) Yickit

yep that’s it. I’d like to hear more from novak, but he’s gone most of today. I’d like to hear more from Yickit, since I’m feeling a wolf vibe there. I’d like to hear more analysis than frenetics from inkarnit and something other than accusation and “I’m not a wolf” from annette.

December 18, 2014 at 11:31 am

inkarnit

Hey lesser Colin… if you see above, you’ll note my “analysis from a n00b” post. I’m learning, okay? 😛

December 18, 2014 at 11:43 am

yickit

By clear I meant that I was voting for Colin, Not Colin(Inkarnit), not that the vote meant anything anyway.

I don’t tend to give reasons when I’m just goofing around. Like I said I wasn’t about to lynch another villager by piling onto uberminz, and I’m not convinced anette is a wolf since it seems most of the heat she is under is from other people.

I totally understand why you might think I’m a wolf, but I’m not, and it would have been awfully stupid of me to vote the way I did if I were. Why make myself the target?

December 18, 2014 at 11:43 am

The Real Colin

Here we go. This screen name should be good.

December 18, 2014 at 11:47 am

yickit

Dammit.

December 18, 2014 at 11:48 am

The Real Colin

What? This should eliminate any confusion.

December 18, 2014 at 11:53 am

yickit

Well RC is quick to type. I can probably try that out.

December 18, 2014 at 11:29 am

todahshy

Here’s my rundown of the whole group. Doing a slightly differrent format than others and I’m coming up with the player list off my head on my phone so i may forget someone:

Group 1 – My top suspects:
Annette 10/10 confidence in this one
yickit – 9/10
Ginge – 9/10
TDO – 7-8/10

Group 2 – possible suspects:
joepunman: 7/10. No specifics yet. Just a vibe I get.

Inkarnit – 6/10. Much lower than yesterday to me. Seems to be a villager caught up in one bad convo with a wolf.

Novak – 6/10. It’s Novak he’s always a candidate but I assume seer probably will check him out so I’m not too worried yet.

Will/Colin/kg/bret – 5/10. All lumped together because I have not seen enough of them yet to decide

I know I’m forgetting a couple people I think but my mind went blank sorry.

December 18, 2014 at 11:31 am

todahshy

Oh it was meat I forgot. Put him at 7/10 just because he always seems to be a wolf.

December 18, 2014 at 11:52 am

The Real Colin

After further review, yickit’s reasoning for voting Dread Pirate sounds thinner and thinner.

unvote Dread Pirate

December 18, 2014 at 12:04 pm

yickit

I think you mean my lack of reasoning. I just didn’t like his comment and hold a grudge for at least 20 hrs. So he’s still got some time left. I’m also not convinced he’s a villager, but hopefully some peekage will start to get things settled. Unless DG or Uber was the seer, that would suck.

If I would have just hidden out and kept my vote for him in the first place, its unlikely I’d be getting pegged by all of the wolves as a wolf. But apparently it takes me a long long time to learn a lesson. Which I’m sure spooky can attest to.

December 18, 2014 at 12:08 pm

The Real Colin

Well yes, lack of reasoning. I was really thinking you were on to something and that you knew something but then you mentioned it was just a whim. As for the seer, wouldn’t that have been disclosed upon their death?

December 18, 2014 at 12:25 pm

yickit

I have no idea.

December 18, 2014 at 12:33 pm

nettiebarron

Wouldn’t Spooky tell us if we lynched the Seer?

December 18, 2014 at 12:45 pm

mbnovak

Yes.

December 18, 2014 at 12:02 pm

nettiebarron

I’m not sure why everyone thinks that Random.org would pick mostly noobs as wolves? That doesn’t seem very random. Also, you have to give us noobs a bit of a pass on sounding wolfy, since we don’t know quite how that works.

December 18, 2014 at 12:07 pm

kg2005

That doesn’t seem very random.

That seems extremely random.

Still, I also don’t think it’s mostly noobs.

December 18, 2014 at 6:33 pm

meat

Also, you have to give us noobs a bit of a pass on sounding wolfy, since we don’t know quite how that works.

This comment, and your play last night, make me very suspicious of you. One of the greatest strategies in this game is to play up a sense of nervousness as a new player as a cover for being a wolf. I’m not sold that you aren’t really just a nervous new player, but this kind of comment piques my interest.

December 18, 2014 at 6:37 pm

Inkarnit

I’ll feel really bad if she turns out not to be a wolf… I’m not changing my vote away from her yet though. I’m still pretty sure she’s actually a wolf. I’ll just feel bad if wrong.

December 18, 2014 at 12:03 pm

TDO

As to grey, I must have missed/forgot you posted you would be away. So that lowers you on the wolf-der-scale for me.

Yickity seems the leading canidate at the moment, but what do we gain by killing him if he’s a wolf (besides we got a wolf).

If he’s not a wolf, do we gain anything from that either?

December 18, 2014 at 12:05 pm

The Real Colin

I’m not sure I understand what you mean. Killing a wolf is imperative, no? What reason is there to NOT kill a wolf when the alternative is we accidentally kill a villager?

December 18, 2014 at 12:14 pm

Colin

What TDO is getting at here is that when we weigh the votes, we have to not just consider who we think is a wolf, but which vote will gain us the most information, i.e. who has been engaging a lot and can possibly link to other wolves. we need to decide between those that we think are wolves, obviously, but we need to be careful not hasty.

December 18, 2014 at 12:16 pm

The Real Colin

I see. So if we are right on yickit, leaving him alive could lead us to the other wolves? I dunno… I’m new but I think that is dangerous. We could lose too many villagers in the process of trying to see something that may not become apparent.

December 18, 2014 at 12:19 pm

yickit

Plus there may be a seer out there who can peek at people who are talking to the “wolf” to see if they are in fact other wolves. Also killing another villager on a hunch seems short sighted as in the first two days you’d lose 4 villagers.

December 18, 2014 at 12:04 pm

nettiebarron

Also, it doesn’t seem like Yickit would be a wolf. If he were a wolf, he probably would have just jumped on the bandwagon and voted for either me or Uber, both who are NOT wolves.

December 18, 2014 at 12:06 pm

The Real Colin

You and yickit seem to be REALLY tight. All I see if you two defending each other. That seems wolfy to me. I’m new too… so maybe I’m reading into your newness also… but yickit isn’t new, right? You are starting to convince me you are both wolves!

December 18, 2014 at 12:16 pm

yickit

I’ve never played this game. So I’m new too. Kelly said I should try this game so I did.

And I’m sure she’s probably sick of dealing with me by now. After settler’s and survivor.

December 18, 2014 at 12:17 pm

The Real Colin

I see. So then you’re saying the two of you being new is why you look wolfy, not because you are, in fact, wolves?

December 18, 2014 at 12:21 pm

yickit

I dunno about nettiebarr, but I look wolfie because I do some random things without explanation when I don’t think it matter much.

December 18, 2014 at 12:36 pm

nettiebarron

And I have no idea why I look wolfy. I’m trying to work on that image today.

December 18, 2014 at 12:37 pm

nettiebarron

Never! You keep life interesting.

December 18, 2014 at 12:08 pm

joepunman

My top 3 wolves
Annette – She’s very crafty.
Ginge – newb wolf trying to keep quiet
Dread Pirate – sleep well, he’ll most likely kill you in the morning

My top 3 villagers (besides me)
inkarnit – many posts yesterday felt too villagery to be fake-wolfie
TDO – post today asking for reasons for votes.
Novak – I think wolves killed DG to make us think Novak was a wolf.

December 18, 2014 at 12:10 pm

The Real Colin

Thoughts on yickit? I agree with you on most of that but Annette and yickit sticking together seems fishy to me. Wait, wolfy. Not fishy. Wolfy.

December 18, 2014 at 12:57 pm

joepunman

yickit would be #4 on the wolves.

December 18, 2014 at 12:58 pm

mbnovak

I think the wolves killed DG because killing a villager DG is a good idea. And because he had painted a target, and yes, Novak is an easy target. I trust the seer has viewed me though, or will tonight, after last night’s post by DG.

December 18, 2014 at 12:09 pm

joepunman

VOTE ANNETTE The game, she has begun.

December 18, 2014 at 12:20 pm

Colin

back again… I have 7 appointments in the next few hours so I may not be around very much until the afternoon.

in the meantime:
vote yickit

I’m not seeing anything form him other than wolfsplaining his votes from yesterday, and some lighthearted joking around. This is prime wolf-play day two, trying to look active while not actually saying anything…
I’ll be back as soon as I can to see whats going on.

December 18, 2014 at 12:23 pm

yickit

To this I’d just say that the wolves have a lot to gain by tying me to another wolf/possible wolf. They know they’d be getting another villager killed.

I mostly aim for lighthearted joking around, so thanks.

December 18, 2014 at 12:57 pm

Colin

I like your lightheartedness, I should say that.
though I don’t get how you’re being tied to anyone. I’m saying that your behavior is wolf-like.

December 18, 2014 at 12:59 pm

yickit

Just the comments above I guess

December 18, 2014 at 1:08 pm

Colin

ok, so it’s TRC that’s tying you to annette. I get it.

December 18, 2014 at 1:03 pm

The Real Colin

Well I’ve kinda tied him to Annette but just because the two of them keep going to bat for each other. Villagers wouldn’t do that because they don’t know for a certainty that the other is actually a villager. That’s my thoughts. But they are both new also so we could all just be one big pile of wrong.

December 18, 2014 at 12:49 pm

nettiebarron

I think we need to revisit the inkarnit is a wolf theory. He’s awfully quick to paint everyone with the “wolfy” brush.

vote inkarnit

December 18, 2014 at 12:52 pm

The Real Colin

Oh yes, I’ve just been tossing out accusations left and right.

December 18, 2014 at 12:51 pm

meat

I’m here ish from work. I’ll be in and out until after 5.

December 18, 2014 at 12:52 pm

Colin

well, it’s nice-ish to have you here.

December 18, 2014 at 12:56 pm

mbnovak

Checking in, will be mostly around for the next few hours. Glen Taylor was at my kid’s Christmas program, so that was something.

Reading through, here are my scattered thoughts:

Yesterday I felt like the n00b wolf theory had some good points in favor of it. I didn’t like the way Wolfson and Ginge were playing the “why would Kelly pick a new player as a wolf thing” hiding behind the “assumption” that it wasn’t random.org. And even going to that logic at all seems very questionably hiding, like a first timer who feels pressure more than a villager would. I don’t think a first time villager is going to stop and think too much about selection bias? Maybe I’m wrong, but this whole thing stuck out to me.

So I like both Wolfson and Ginge for that reason.

Watching Annette’s interactions (and knowing Annette well enough to know she can get quickly comfortable in a game like this), I feel like her jumping to targets in the first half of the day yesterday, and trying to make something stick on lots of different people screamed wolf behavior. Maybe that’s just n00b behavior, but it seemed wolfy, especially paired with the late votes. I also thought her interactions with Wolfson (and Ginge? I don’t recall, don’t have time to go look right now) were somehow… different than some of her other interactions. Throw in the fact that she was saved last night with the jumps to Uber, and I think that screams she was getting protected. I feel more strongly about Annette being a wolf than I do the other two.

I also feel like Grey and DPWY are really really dangerous people right now. Sometimes people are absent, but the usually make a heck of an effort to get in a bit more than either of these two did yesterday. Grey is around a lot more today it seems, which is good. But the fact that he can only come up with one good wolf target seems fishy, like he’s trying to get on everyone’s good side. DPWY… his absence, coupled with the late vote for Uber (who, by the way, Grey voted for too… but Colin was there early, if I remember correctly)… that screams wolf to me.

So right now I feel like DPWY and Annette are the best two targets.

December 18, 2014 at 1:00 pm

Colin

just so we don’t confuse new people – can we use Colin and The Real Colin instead of Grey and Wolfson?
I know you know and love me as Grey, but those days have passed and I’d rather not confuse anything more than we have to, given the quantity of new players.

December 18, 2014 at 1:17 pm

mbnovak

I’ll work on it.

December 18, 2014 at 1:01 pm

The Real Colin

I just want to point out that I did NOT in fact think Kelly wouldn’t make a newb wolf. I specifically responded to ginge saying that he MUST be new if he would think Kelly wouldn’t make new people wolves.

December 18, 2014 at 1:06 pm

Colin

so, I’m fishy because I can’t come up with more than 1 good target on day 2, but you come up with 2 with thin arguments and you’re gravy?
And who’s Glen Taylor?

December 18, 2014 at 1:07 pm

The Real Colin

Glen Taylor is obviously a wolf.

December 18, 2014 at 1:13 pm

mbnovak

Owner of the… wait for it… Timberwolves.

December 18, 2014 at 1:16 pm

mbnovak

The difference being that your run down seemed to say “no, not this person, or at least not yet” of a whole lot of people. My post only addressed the people I think are good targets. That could very well be you as a wolf trying to get on the good side of people. Or it could be nothing, but you have to admit it’s a familiar enough wolf tactic.

December 18, 2014 at 1:33 pm

Colin

I can’t say as I agree. I’m saying that I don’t have a read on them, or I don’t agree with what’s being said, not “I don’t think they’re wolves.” To me that is more helpful than just saying “I think these people are wolves because of a vague hunch I have.”

December 18, 2014 at 1:04 pm

The Real Colin

Since Annette wants to try to redirect on me, I’ll go ahead and be the n00b with the revenge vote here… But it’s mostly because I think she’s actually a wolf.

vote Annette

December 18, 2014 at 1:07 pm

todahshy

unvote Annette

vote ginge

I still think it’s her but too many votes on her right now for this early in the day.

December 18, 2014 at 1:07 pm

todahshy

What am i doing wrong???

December 18, 2014 at 1:08 pm

Colin

everything.

December 18, 2014 at 1:20 pm

The Real Colin

Voting update

FINAL VOTING

nettiebarron – 2 (inkarnit)
gingefringe97 – 1
inkarnit – 1 (nettiebarron)
kg2005
bhiggum
novak
inkarnit – 1 (nettiebarron)
Dread Pirate – 1
joepunman (nettiebarron)
todahshy (gingefringe97)
meat
yickit – 1 (Dread Pirate)
TDO
Colin (yickit)

December 18, 2014 at 1:21 pm

The Real Colin

Dammit, can someone edit that to remove the “FINAL VOTING” part?

December 18, 2014 at 1:25 pm

joepunman

hows about the two inkarnits?

December 18, 2014 at 1:25 pm

The Real Colin

ARGH!

December 18, 2014 at 1:21 pm

TDO

Just caught up reading. I’m around but focusing on paying the sales tax for work.

December 18, 2014 at 1:29 pm

The Real Colin

Just disregard the vote thing above. It’s all fubar. Here’s a better one:

nettiebarron – 2 (inkarnit)
gingefringe97 – 1
inkarnit – 1 (nettiebarron)
Dread Pirate – 1
yickit – 1 (Dread Pirate)
joepunman (nettiebarron)
todahshy (gingefringe97)
Colin (yickit)
kg2005
bhiggum
novak
meat
TDO

December 18, 2014 at 1:30 pm

TDO

and who were you before you were the real collin? Just trying to match up posts with votes 🙂

December 18, 2014 at 1:32 pm

The Real Colin

Inkarnit

December 18, 2014 at 1:38 pm

mbnovak

Why didn’t you just keep this? Becoming a second Colin only served to confuse things…

December 18, 2014 at 1:41 pm

The Real Colin

I can change it back. Just thought it was fun to play on it.

December 18, 2014 at 1:45 pm

Inkarnit

Is this mo’ bettah?

December 18, 2014 at 1:31 pm

nettiebarron

I’m around but slammed at work, so my input will be somewhat less today; which is probably for the best since all I managed to do yesterday was put myself under suspicion.

December 18, 2014 at 1:37 pm

The Real Colin

She’s too quiet! Vote for her! Heh

December 18, 2014 at 1:46 pm

spookymilk

Dearest Wieners, because of the large number of noobs, please refrain from cheeky name changes. I wouldn’t care if it was all longtimers, but it’s hard enough for site noobs to keep up as it is.

I’ll be home and able to take over voting stuff in about four and a half hours, and I’m likely to be around all day after that.

December 18, 2014 at 1:48 pm

Inkarnit

That’s so messed up. Why would people do that?

December 18, 2014 at 1:51 pm

nettiebarron

Probably to confuse things, since they are WOLVES.

December 18, 2014 at 1:48 pm

TDO

ok. Also when you ahve a chance can you jog my memory about tie votes? I doubt it comes up again in this game, but I forgot and actually thought of causing a tie last night so if in the same predicament I’d like to know what happens in case of tie.

December 18, 2014 at 2:16 pm

Inkarnit

We lynch them both?

December 18, 2014 at 2:25 pm

spookymilk

Tiebreakers. Thirty minute overtime with a defined endpoint. Votes stay where they are but changes can only be for those locked in the tie. As always, you cannot abstain.

Timestamping. Should’ve brought this up earlier. If you have a vote that comes in after ***IT IS NIGHT*** but it’s still 9:00 Central, I’ll accept it. I will not accept ones that come in at 9:01.

December 18, 2014 at 2:33 pm

TDO

Thank you spoky (misspell intentional)

December 18, 2014 at 2:34 pm

TDO

I want to get a vote out there and I want to make it clear I want him to speak when he’s around so….

vote Dread Pirate

December 18, 2014 at 2:34 pm

The Dread Pirate

Hey everyone, morning calendar went way long and I just got to my afternoon hearings so nothing much from me until later. I promise to be around then.

December 18, 2014 at 2:37 pm

TDO

Lol awesome coincidence and timing. Hope your cases go well but OOTP does not 😛

December 18, 2014 at 2:37 pm

TDO

just kidding about OOTP

December 18, 2014 at 3:15 pm

todahshy

I can’t wait for the pro football OOTP.

December 18, 2014 at 3:16 pm

Inkarnit

What the hell is OOTP?

December 18, 2014 at 6:29 pm

The Dread Pirate

OOTP is Out of the Park Baseball. It’s a baseball computer game in which TDO and I are in the same historical league (right now, we’re in 1986) but running different franchises using real players. It’s quite fun.

December 18, 2014 at 6:30 pm

Inkarnit

That sounds fun. I’d prefer football but… how much does this cost? How’s it work?

December 18, 2014 at 2:38 pm

meat

real actual life is in the way at the moment. I’ll be back in a couple of hours.

December 18, 2014 at 3:39 pm

bhiggum

Busy day for me, too. I got a couple hours to look over stuff here- why don’t I start with a vote?

Vote- Novak

Because if there’s a wolf who would kill off a guy that was openly suspicious of him, it’s novak. Or kg. Or Colin. Or, you know, anyone that’s played this game a couple times.

December 18, 2014 at 3:45 pm

mbnovak

Eh, that Brooks thing last night really wasn’t much. I’m gonna be a suspect today since he was killed last night, but I was going to be a suspect after his comments anyway. Presumably I have been or will be peeked by the seer, so if I’m a wolf save me for a couple days and then kill me, hunt other wolves first. My suspectness is a fact of life this time, and won’t go away until the seer comes clean, which they should wait to do anyway. There are much more productive routes for us to take this time.

December 18, 2014 at 4:01 pm

bhiggum

Yeah, that’s how I’m reading it, too. If you’re a wolf, I could see you doing killing dg as a smokescreen and if you’re a villager, I could see the wolves thinking it was a good idea to kill him and send some suspicion your way.
I don’t expect to end up voting for you tonight- but then, I said that to uber, too.
As long as we get some more votes spread around to day to make some more connections for the village to analyze tomorrow, that’s about all we can do here.

December 18, 2014 at 3:40 pm

mbnovak

Well, things have slowed down it seems. I kind of want to vote for Annette, and probably will before I leave for the day, which will be in an hour or so.

December 18, 2014 at 4:11 pm

nettiebarron

You should wait on killing me, too. Kill your other suspects first.

December 18, 2014 at 4:26 pm

mbnovak

Eh…

December 18, 2014 at 4:27 pm

TDO

hello!

December 18, 2014 at 4:28 pm

Inkarnit

Heya!

December 18, 2014 at 4:29 pm

mbnovak

Alright, I’m heading out for the night. I’ll vote Annette.

December 18, 2014 at 4:38 pm

spookymilk

One last thing, until the next last thing. If a majority is reached, then the person who has the majority against them cannot talk anymore. I don’t expect this today, but…you know. It’s just good to have that out there.

December 18, 2014 at 4:48 pm

Inkarnit

Once majority is reached, isn’t it presumed to be night anyway and no one is allowed to talk?

December 18, 2014 at 5:12 pm

daneekasghost

**Dead Guy**

People can still talk (except the one who got all the votes (they are “in jail”)) until the nightfall deadline (9 Central). The role of the “in jail” player won’t be revealed until they are lynched at nightfall.

((Dead Guy)

December 18, 2014 at 5:12 pm

daneekasghost

)

December 18, 2014 at 5:39 pm

yickit

December 18, 2014 at 6:39 pm

meat

I knew this was a thing.

December 18, 2014 at 5:12 pm

Colin

I was going to say “back and catching up” but not a lot has gone on.
I still feel good about my Yickit vote, given he’s all but disappeared after getting some heat earlier, and I haven’t seen anyone else look wolfier yet.

I’m about to start the dinner routine at 4:40 central, so will be off and on until about 8, depending on when the kids go down.

December 18, 2014 at 5:29 pm

bhiggum

I’m really not feeling a yickit vote. I think he was honestly not that interested in a nettie or uber vote, where if he was a wolf I really think he’d have gone for one of them.

FWIW, I don’t think you’re a wolf, either.

December 18, 2014 at 5:12 pm

joepunman

Wow, village got really quiet….I’ll be sporadic tonight. My vote’s in for Annette. Sorry, gotta split up the band, time for me to fly solo!

December 18, 2014 at 5:22 pm

nettiebarron

*sniff*

December 18, 2014 at 5:44 pm

yickit

I’m still around but not sure I’ll change my vote. You know, because yesterday.

December 18, 2014 at 6:40 pm

meat

you’ll not change your vote if further evidence comes to light because you kind of randomly changed your votes last night? This is a legit question, not snark.

December 18, 2014 at 6:59 pm

yickit

No in the light of evidence I will. But my time frame kinda makes the last 20 min blitz hard.

December 18, 2014 at 6:44 pm

Inkarnit

You shouldn’t be so rigid. #hardcastled

December 18, 2014 at 6:32 pm

Inkarnit

Didn’t Spooky say he was going to update the voting thing… ? He’s slacking.

December 18, 2014 at 6:35 pm

daneekasghost

((Dead Spreadsheet Guy))

there have been three votes since the last update. Not too difficult to track.

Still… a new voting update is coming in 5 minutes.

((Dead Spreadsheet Guy))

December 18, 2014 at 6:38 pm

Inkarnit

Didn’t I stab you in the head?

Also, that requires like… paying attention and stuff. I can wait 5 minutes though. 5 minutes is cool.

December 18, 2014 at 6:36 pm

todahshy

I’m out for rest of the night basically. Hopefully will be back a little before deadline but not too sure. Sorry guys 😦

December 18, 2014 at 6:40 pm

daneekasghost

200 minutes until the deadline. 7 votes needed for a majority

VOTING UPDATE

nettiebarron(3) – (inkarnit)
Dread Pirate(2) –
gingefringe97(1) –
novak(1) – (nettiebarron)
inkarnit(1) – (nettiebarron)
yickit(1) – (Dread Pirate)
joepunman – (nettiebarron)
todahshy – (gingefringe97)
Colin – (yickit)
TDO – (Dread Pirate)
bhiggum – (novak)
kg2005 –
meat –

December 18, 2014 at 6:48 pm

Inkarnit

Leaving work, picking up kids, then going home for dinner… will be away for a bit but I’ll check in. My vote’s in already but willing to change it if something comes up that makes sense.

December 18, 2014 at 6:50 pm

The Dread Pirate

Ok, I posted sporadically above in response to a few things. Bigger thoughts here…

First, yickit makes a ridiculously useless vote last night and then says I’m wolfy for not keeping my vote on bhiggs (aka, also making a ridiculously useless vote). I was consistent all day yesterday that I didn’t want to vote for a newb because I think they’ll hang themself(ves) and lead us to other wolves if we let them keep talking. For that reason, I thought uber was the best of three alternatives at the end of the day. Thus, yickit’s vote last night plus him directing attention at me for the same reason really makes me suspicious.

The battle of wits involving Novak and the wolves (is he the sort of wolf who places the iocane powder in front of him and kills DG because we would expect him to do that, in fact, planned for him to do that, so he could then argue that he would never actually do that OR are the wolves the sort of wolves who place the iocane powder away from Novak by killing DG because they would expect us to blame Novak, in fact, planned for it, and blah blah blah…) Anyway, I’m a little more curious to explore this angle as I asked above in response to KG. How do we think Novak handles it?

inkarnit seems pretty wolfy with the whole “who did DG suspect last night, I’m too lazy to look” thing going on while also looking back and doing vote tallies from yesterday. That’s just beyond sketchy. Novak’s narrow-mindedness on inkarnit yesterday (relatively speaking, since he never really argued about anyone else) could be a pairing or just good wolf hunting.

I would still like to explore toadsy a little more. Throwing out a wolf list of TDP, inkarnit, Annette, and Ginge (4 people who have never been wolves) seems like pretty low-hanging fruit given that implicating newbs is historically a really good way for wolves to hide.

For now, those 4 are the top of my list.

As for the newbs, I discussed inkarnit above. If Annette or Ginge are wolves, what clues are they dropping that would lead us to others? It seems like everyone else has been a lot more focused on both of them than I have, so I’m curious who pairs up with them?

December 18, 2014 at 6:57 pm

Inkarnit

Oh bah! That’s so thin! As I stated in your statement above, it was super easy to copy/paste from yesterday. Not so easy to read back through everything. And working with Novak? Dude wants everyone to think I’m a wolf!

December 18, 2014 at 7:03 pm

The Dread Pirate

Yes, and if you die and turn up a wolf. That just “solidifies” his villager cred. Of course, he hasn’t mentioned you at all today which is a little odd especially given this comment in the last hour yesterday: spookymilk.wordpress.com/2014/12/17/werewolf-day-one/#comment-54035

December 18, 2014 at 7:09 pm

Inkarnit

Except that’s not how it would go down. If he’s a villager he’ll have accomplished nothing. If a wolf, he wins with another villager killed. And being wrong doesn’t immediately say he’s a wolf, just that he’s wrong. Like you were yesterday.

December 18, 2014 at 7:03 pm

yickit

Dude I didn’t call you wolfy or whatever.. I said I hold a grudge for at least 20 hrs.

December 18, 2014 at 7:10 pm

The Dread Pirate

Again, I sort of started at the top, worked my way down, and then went back up top. I still think your move last night was super fishy. Also, why did I cause a grudge? I don’t think I even mentioned you until about 5 of us jumped on your last-minute vote, but I’m the one who got singled out for the grudge?

December 18, 2014 at 7:49 pm

yickit

I was really just messing around. Nice to know you have a wolf pack ready to pounce. )

December 18, 2014 at 9:11 pm

todahshy

I know I focused on a lot of newbs but I don’t consider Annette low hanging fruit. She’s been a force in any game I’ve played with her.

December 18, 2014 at 6:51 pm

meat

My beginnings of a list.

Nettie seems to be playing a new players game. Is that a game she’s running on us? I don’t know, and I don’t know her well enough to call it easily.

DP – not a whole lot to go on, but did vote late for ubes. Truth be told I was considering changing my vote at the wire, but didn’t see enough reason to.

Ginge – some things other have said make sense, but I didn’t read too much suspicion into his game last night. Again, I don’t know his style, and can’t call it one way or the other yet.

Novak – Novak as a villager is a huge bonus to the village. Relentless and logical (short, but who’s counting), but novak as a wolf is a nightmare. I’m suspicious of his non answer when nettie asks why he’s voting against her today. Maybe time constraints led to that, but it’s not his usual mo. and the brooks call back last night. would he off dg to set up the ‘ i would never off dg if i were a wolf ‘ strategy? I wouldn’t put that past novak.

inkarnit – dude doesn’t stop talking. seriously. see above about players I don’t know

yickit – really didn’t like the non-vote / late vote switch and don’t really understand his play today.

joepunman – i was totes confused with the almightyclaw bit, and while it may be innocent it could also be a great way to confuse the threads and hide.

todahshy – no idea

colin – totally into hanging (with) this dude. I can never read greay’s play. I always want both him a spooky dead, and I’m usually wrong about them both.

TDO had interesting lists yesterday, but also could be setting up the long game.

Bhiggs – no idea what bhiggs is up to, but seems to be looking for wolves, not trying to hide

kg2005 is also a nightmare as a wolf for the village. he’s easily missed and blends in well.

December 18, 2014 at 6:56 pm

Inkarnit

I can’t help it if being an insurance agent in November/December is slow. People don’t often buy life insurance for their loved ones for Christmas. This leaves me staring at casa de leche all day…

December 18, 2014 at 6:53 pm

meat

vote yickit

Something was really fishy with the not changing vote because yesterday comment. I’m out of pocket for a bit as I go install art for a client. I should be back before the deadline.

December 18, 2014 at 7:08 pm

The Dread Pirate

Looking back, it seems like punman, meat, kg, and bhiggs haven’t really shown up on anyone’s radars (mine included).

Just for clarification, are “the claw” posts from punman?

December 18, 2014 at 7:16 pm

Inkarnit

Below comment was supposed to be in reply to this

December 18, 2014 at 7:39 pm

beholdtheclaw

Yes, I am punman. I’m having login issues

December 18, 2014 at 7:16 pm

Inkarnit

Weren’t meat, kg, and Bret all targets at one point yesterday? Today they do seem to be flying under the radar. Haven’t seen much of any of them which could be the reason. It has been pointed out that wolves do this…

And yes joepunman is The Claw.

December 18, 2014 at 7:30 pm

nettiebarron

Joe changed his vote last minute last night to vote for Uber. Today he appears to be for taking me out – both people I happen to know are villagers. Maybe the Claw really has claws.

December 18, 2014 at 7:42 pm

The Dread Pirate

There has to be a better argument than “he’s a wolf because I’m not.”

December 18, 2014 at 7:46 pm

beholdtheclaw

Wow, way to re-direct attention from yourself to someone who really is a villager.

December 18, 2014 at 7:36 pm

spookymilk

Hey, kids. I’m sick and I feel like a flaming bag of ass. Is that a thing? No matter – it’s still true.

I read everything, but haven’t attempted to update voting. I’ll try now and see how much it sucks to look at a computer screen.

December 18, 2014 at 7:44 pm

spookymilk

Okay, there’s only one change to DG’s list above so I’ll just hit you at the hour or soon after. Unless I’m puking blood by then, which seems plausible.

December 18, 2014 at 7:44 pm

beholdtheclaw

Who are the “new” people? Inkarnit, nettie, ginge, who else?

December 18, 2014 at 7:55 pm

nettiebarron

Yickit said this was his first time, too.

December 18, 2014 at 8:33 pm

yickit

It is indeed.

December 18, 2014 at 8:02 pm

nettiebarron

I’m leaving work now, so I’ll be gone until I get on the bus and then I’ll be on my phone.

December 18, 2014 at 8:07 pm

Colin

Trying this on my phone while getting kids down. Reading and then should be free in the next 20 minutes or so.

December 18, 2014 at 8:25 pm

TDO

WOW what a clusterf*** of a day. I’m here now. I’ve read through everything. And I’m still on the DP thing. He’s posting more but still hasn’t answered why he late voted uber last night.

I could also see a DP, novak, karn, and ginge wolf pack. DP detailed synopsis of novak and the wolves/villagers I could see as him trying to seperate each other.

For now I’m stickign with my DP vote and at this time am ok with the night ending and my vote still being on him

Im’ also not eliminating kg as a wolf, he’s just so damn hard for me to read, and as someone said before he’s a huge asset as a villager and a huge pain as a wolf.

December 18, 2014 at 8:32 pm

The Dread Pirate

I don’t know how many times I can explain I voted for uber because I didn’t want to vote for a newb (Annette, Ginge, inkarnit were the others gathering heat), and I didn’t want to just throw my vote away like yickit.

December 18, 2014 at 8:30 pm

gingefringe97

I’m putting my money on dread being a wolf, that’s where my vote lies tonight. I just have a funny feeling from him
Vote DP I will be absent the rest of the evening due to studying again

December 18, 2014 at 8:33 pm

The Dread Pirate

I’ll vote todahshy because I’ve been curious about his low-hanging fruit theory for 2 days, and maybe someone else will start investigating him with me.

December 18, 2014 at 8:38 pm

Inkarnit

Okay dinner is over. Wow. So… Not really much new has come to light though there are a few new votes, albeit seemingly irrelevant ones at the moment.

Ginge seems to be piling on DP which kinda furthers the view that him, Annette, and yickit could be 3/4 of a wolf pack.

DP voting for todahshy looks like a sucker vote… But I suppose it could accomplish further investigation into someone that hasn’t been questioned yet much.

December 18, 2014 at 8:39 pm

TDO

ginge is gone for the night and i wish i knew if the DP vote was being posted while i made my post or after.

My reasoning is if it was made after, it sounds bandwagonie without much thought and i’ve already doubted ginge which makes me question it more.

It seems like it was done at the same time as i would think me questioning ginge would have brought a response along with his dp vote if it was indeed after…or he ignored that part and hopes to just hide another night lol I have no idea this is what’s awesome about werewolf.

unvote DP

December 18, 2014 at 8:41 pm

Inkarnit

Timestamp says 5 minutes after your post. Significant enough time. He’s certainly playing into your theory at least.

December 18, 2014 at 8:58 pm

todahshy

That’s been his MO so far. No surprise.

December 18, 2014 at 8:44 pm

spookymilk

With 75 minutes until NIGHT…

nettiebarron 3 (inkarnit
Dread Pirate 2 (todahshy
yickit 2 (Dread Pirate
gingefringe97 1 (Dread Pirate
inkarnit 1 (nettiebarron
mbnovak 1 (nettiebarron
todahshy 1 (gingefringe97
bhiggum (mbnovak
Colin (yickit
joepunman (nettiebarron
kg2005
meat (yickit
TDO

December 18, 2014 at 8:45 pm

spookymilk

)))))))))))

December 18, 2014 at 8:46 pm

TDO

touche

December 18, 2014 at 8:47 pm

Inkarnit

oh good, even 11 of them. Syntax checks out

December 18, 2014 at 8:47 pm

TDO

can joe, karn, or novak explain the nettie vote. I just haven’t been seeing it today or yesterday.

December 18, 2014 at 8:52 pm

Inkarnit

Well she voted for me for one. So revenge is one reason. But also she seems to be quick to make accusations and misdirections. I’m not 100% convinced that it’s not just newness as others have said. Being new also I don’t know how to differentiate. I’m willing to entertain other options too. Oh, another thing is how yickit has appeared to be a wolf as well and two of them have been very defensive of each other. I think they’re a team.

December 18, 2014 at 8:54 pm

TDO

fair enough. thanks.

December 18, 2014 at 8:55 pm

nettiebarron

We’re not a team. I just didn’t think he’s a wolf.

December 18, 2014 at 8:55 pm

TDO

have you played a game with yickit before or do you know yickit in general?

December 18, 2014 at 8:58 pm

nettiebarron

Yes, we just got done playing Survivor together. Sometimes, he just does random stuff.

December 18, 2014 at 8:59 pm

yickit

I think latest survivor and a game she modded earlier this year

December 18, 2014 at 9:26 pm

TDO

I just want to put this out there now. Tommorrow I will not be available in the morning. I have the day off from work and am finishing up some pre Christmas stuff. I will be around most of the night though.

December 18, 2014 at 9:47 pm

beholdtheclaw

(JoePunMan) – call it a hunch followed by actions within the game. Long story warning: When I played by 60 player Survivor-themed Werewolf game, I aligned with a lady before the game started. She ended being a wolf. I also got eliminated right before the game’s “merge.”

Fast Forward to Spooky Survivor XVI. I align with groovy (also known as Annette) who happens to have voted me out right before the merge. Now we’re playing Werewolf. I just have this vibe from the connection to the other game. Nothing I’ve seen from her posts have made me feel like she’s villagery.

Yes, it’s weird and convoluted and out there, but it’s the honest truth.

But now I’m voting for Dread Pirate because I don’t want to be the top vote getter. However, if Annette’s votes pick up, I’ll gladly switch back.

December 18, 2014 at 8:55 pm

TDO

KG, what’s going on with you. No vote?

December 18, 2014 at 8:57 pm

Colin

I’m back for the most part – lost to do but am on until at least 8:30 or so.
At this point I’m feeling the following people:

1) Yickit – his play is either super loose and he doesn’t actually care and is really just being flip, or he’s just a really obvious newb wolf, IMO.

2) Novak: This doesn’t look at all like villager novak that I’ve seen before. His arguments seemed designed to drag things out instead of working toward a resolution – example : https://spookymilk.wordpress.com/2014/12/18/werewolf-assbutttown-day-two/#comment-54291 where he says “ok, yeah of course everyone suspects me, so lets just let that rest for a while and look elsewhere” and basically baits the seer with the ‘i presume i’ve been peeked’ comment.
Also, his analysis here https://spookymilk.wordpress.com/2014/12/18/werewolf-assbutttown-day-two/#comment-54243 where he picks on DP and I for being absent. I’ve seen novak argue that absentee players should be left alone, so this just reeks of trying to get suspicion on veteran players that know his game better. that and the “annette just feels like a wolf” statement looks like a set up to get a vote in that he can back up later if he has to.

I have other thoughts and suspicions, of course, but I’m typing this while making lunch for the kindergartener and breakfast for the wife and I and getting my two-year-old’s dance class stuff ready for the morning, and want to get these thoughts in.

December 18, 2014 at 9:00 pm

TDO

i like what your saying about novak. it also goes with my general idea that with a good amount of new players, what if they are all villagers and the veteran wolfs are trying to get rid of the more experienced players first.

Honestly though I think there is at least 1 or 2 new players as wolves as ive stated before.

December 18, 2014 at 9:04 pm

todahshy

To be fair i first said Novak would get peeked because he’s Novak and i just presume he’s been peeked. He may have stolen my throwaway comment to use to keep himself alive.

December 18, 2014 at 9:24 pm

The Dread Pirate

Yes, but peaking people like Novak/DG also can be wasted peeks because they are usually wolves when they can last a long time. It can be more beneficial to peek a player who is harder to read.*

*I’m assugreying** here since I’ve never been the seer
**I’ve missed that word!

December 18, 2014 at 8:58 pm

bhiggum

Well, I still kind of like a Novak vote, but I’m worried the seer would have peeked him, too. Otherwise, ginge is doing a lot of things that are either Wolfy or completely normal since he’s not paranoid from playing this game before. Getting a bit of a Wolfy feel from theclaw and Nettie, so I think I’ll end up on one of them tonight.
unvote- Novak

December 18, 2014 at 9:02 pm

TDO

what makes you a villager bhiggum?

December 18, 2014 at 9:23 pm

bhiggum

Hah, I wish it was that easy! I guess the best way to say I’m a villager is to outline what I would have done as a wolf-
I’d have played the uber vote exactly the way it worked out. I was in on him first and never would have had to risk anything to get rid of a villager.
I would not have killed DG if I was a wolf, though. Leave him alive and the village will most likely kill him on day two or three.
And I’d certainly be more eager to start setting up villagers for future days if I was a wolf- instead I’m looking for who I think is playing like villagers and trying to keep them around.

December 18, 2014 at 9:02 pm

The Dread Pirate

Let’s unpack the uber vote from yesterday:

bhiggum at 8:52 (7:52 Central)
TDO at 8:57
Colin at 9:29
Nettie at 9:42 (10 minutes after uber voted for her)
KG at 9:45
TDO unvote at 9:46
Punman at 9:55
Pirate at 9:56

Ok, reasoning-wise:

bhiggum says because he wants to gather more info on Nettie and because uber has been around all day without voting
TDO gives no explanation
Colin says uber looks too careful and he wants to get someone besides Nettie up in votes
KG says he thinks uber is more likely a wolf than Nettie
TDO says he unvoted to watch for a gangvote at the end of the day
Punman gave no reason
I’ve explained several times (and several more times yesterday) that I didn’t want a newb vote because I thought a newb would lead a trail back to others if we let him/her survive another day and it was 4 minutes to deadline and the choices were uber, Nettie (newb), ginge (newb), or waste my vote like yickit.

Of those, punman looks a lot more suspicious now. Colin/KG following the bhigg’s explanation is also a little fishy (granted, i had the same explanation but I also provided it 90 minutes before bhiggs here:

Werewolf #?: Day One

December 18, 2014 at 9:05 pm

TDO

i stated a few times way prior to my actual vote that i voted uber because i thought his game was just “meh” or on the fence and I wanted him to come out more.

I then unvoted because since my vote was to just get him more involved and the votes started coming I didn’t want to get a majority on someone that I had a vote on just to get to talk.

December 18, 2014 at 9:09 pm

The Dread Pirate

Gotcha, I was just trying to find comments from people near their votes (if not in the post, then nested or something), and couldn’t find anything from you.

December 18, 2014 at 9:40 pm

beholdtheclaw

well, I actually did give a reason. Some of the posts very early in the day made me think Uber was a wolf. I could see ginge wasn’t getting any traction and so I put my vote on Uberminz. I was also trying to balance out the votes. I thought about switching it again to nettie, but decided not because it was getting too close to the deadline. (and now I realize it would’ve made me look more suspicious.

December 18, 2014 at 9:40 pm

beholdtheclaw

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December 18, 2014 at 9:03 pm

nettiebarron

unvote inkarnit God, this sucks on my phone!

December 18, 2014 at 9:28 pm

bhiggum

Yes, it sucks bad on my phone, too! Hoping the copied vote/unvote will paste in to make things easier later!

December 18, 2014 at 9:05 pm

meat

On my way back to my house. Will be around in a little bit.

December 18, 2014 at 9:07 pm

TDO

With less than an hour to go, I want to get a vote in for my leading suspicion.

vote novak

December 18, 2014 at 9:12 pm

nettiebarron

What about bhiggum’s theory? I’m trying to decide where to put my vote.

December 18, 2014 at 9:15 pm

Colin

one hesitation here for me is that novak isn’t going to be around to defend himself. at least that’s what I got from one of his earlier posts.

December 18, 2014 at 9:17 pm

Inkarnit

So that should give him a pass? I guess each night I’ll disappear during the last hour to avoid a vote too. Strategy!

December 18, 2014 at 9:08 pm

The Dread Pirate

)

December 18, 2014 at 9:13 pm

The Dread Pirate

Putting the baby to bed. Hope to be back shortly.

December 18, 2014 at 9:13 pm

Inkarnit

You guys have brought up more reason to suspect Novak than Annette. And she even unvoted me now so revenge isn’t a valid reason anymore. TDO, I really hope you’re right on this. You don’t feel Wolfy to me but maybe you’re just good at hiding it. I’m going to trust you here and see where things fall.

unvote Annette

vote Novak

December 18, 2014 at 9:19 pm

Colin

this feels like a bandwagon vote. anyone?

December 18, 2014 at 9:21 pm

Inkarnit

Sort of yes. But Novak has given tons of reasons. Including where he said just get me later. I just watched him manipulate everyone in survivor even when he should have been eliminated. He’s a force. And I think TDO’s theory bears merit.

December 18, 2014 at 9:30 pm

The Dread Pirate

Sure does. Of course, I also thought Novak/inkarnit were possibly a wolf team so that theory is now shot.

December 18, 2014 at 9:16 pm

The Dread Pirate

Before I take care of the baby, unvote todahshy, vote Punman to see if this can get any traction.

December 18, 2014 at 9:20 pm

TDO

unvote novak
vote punman

Punman’s played a pretty light game and I’m willing to help DP get some heat on him just to get some more involvement.

I also don’t like karn’s willingness to go with my vote on novak and saying he hopes I’m right about this and I don’t feel wolfy. Could be a way to set me up for a lynching tommorrow if I’m wrong which would get heat off him. Also hard to see him siding with me when I’ve mentioned him in my possibly wolf posts almost every time.

December 18, 2014 at 9:25 pm

Inkarnit

You have? Every time? I’ve been suspected by everyone at least once. You listed me lower on your list. I just thought you might be right about this one. Trying to bow out now to save yourself is weak. I’m sticking with my boss for now regardless. Novak scares me as a wolf more than losing him as a villager matters.

December 18, 2014 at 9:27 pm

Inkarnit

Damn auto correct. Vote. Not boss.

December 18, 2014 at 9:25 pm

bhiggum

Ooh, this is interesting! Punman pressure! I like it.

December 18, 2014 at 9:29 pm

Colin

yes. this. he jumped on that vote pretty quickly.
I’m fairly set where I am, and I think I have good reason to vote for Yickit – he’s basically disappeared after being told he looked suspicious, his posts have seemed like he’s trying to obfuscate more than anything else, and I would much rather vote on a newb than one of the more veteran players. True veteran wolves are scary, but a village full of newbs being manipulated is scariest – but I’m into looking at inkarnit’s game.

December 18, 2014 at 9:33 pm

meat

does inkarnit talk this much during other cdl games?

December 18, 2014 at 9:34 pm

spookymilk

Unfortunately.

December 18, 2014 at 9:35 pm

The Dread Pirate

Truly he has a dizzying intellect.

December 18, 2014 at 9:36 pm

Inkarnit

Eff you!

December 18, 2014 at 9:36 pm

meat

Unfortunately.

Mod Burn. ouch.

December 18, 2014 at 9:35 pm

Colin

no idea. I’ve only played with him in one survivor game, I think, and I had to bow out of that one early.

December 18, 2014 at 9:32 pm

Inkarnit

There’s also that whole setup thing with dg. Not sure which way to lean there so just erring on the side of caution. Is Novak setting it up to appear innocent or did he get set up by the wolves? In not sure but either seem plausible, especially the one where Novak does something no one expects.

December 18, 2014 at 9:27 pm

TDO

I accidently posted this above while re-reading.

December 18, 2014 at 9:28 pm

TDO

in no order, my wolf dar thinks we have the four between ginge, karn, novak, bhiggum, kg.

December 18, 2014 at 9:34 pm

meat

what’s the case against bhiggs?

December 18, 2014 at 9:36 pm

TDO

not much, just doesn’t seem very helpful. it’s a weak case, more gut than factual right now. its also why i haven’t placed a vote on him.

December 18, 2014 at 9:29 pm

nettiebarron

I can go with that. vote Punman

December 18, 2014 at 9:34 pm

The Dread Pirate

Sheesh, this is the same move you pulled last night that toadsy and Novak spotted. You’re either the wolfiest newb villager in a long time or just a wolf.

December 18, 2014 at 9:38 pm

nettiebarron

That’s ridiculous. I mentioned that I suspected him earlier.

December 18, 2014 at 9:29 pm

meat

I’m feeling both a yickit and a novak vote. As I said above, and colin restated with links, novak’s game has seemed off. I’m mostly reacting to his eh… comment wrt voting for nettie

Werewolf ABTown: Day Two

it’s not usually his style to be so flip.

December 18, 2014 at 9:30 pm

meat

also, wasn’t it novak who commented on slow post times yesterday? That would be a perfect hiding spot.

December 18, 2014 at 9:34 pm

Inkarnit

There are tons of reasons to suspect Novak. That’s why I thought switching my vote made sense. Call it bandwagon if you will but isn’t anyone placing votes at this point a bandwagon voter? Oh look Annette just jumped on the claw train to give him more votes than anyone!

December 18, 2014 at 9:32 pm

beholdtheclaw

Aw crap. I really wasn’t thinking when I made that vote switch last night. I saw this not because I’m a wolf, but because I feel like I’ve let the villagers down by making myself a new target. However, I’d gladly take the hit tonight if it means keeping the seer alive for another day.

December 18, 2014 at 9:34 pm

beholdtheclaw

er… I say this, not I saw this.

December 18, 2014 at 9:32 pm

nettiebarron

I hope I make it home before 9 and before my phone dies. It’s going to be close on both.

December 18, 2014 at 9:32 pm

spookymilk

28 minutes until NIGHT.

joepunman 3 (nettiebarron)
Dread Pirate 2 (joepunman)
nettiebarron 2 (joepunman)
yickit 2 (Dread Pirate)
gingefringe97 1 (Dread Pirate)
mbnovak 1 (nettiebarron)
bhiggum
Colin (yickit)
inkarnit (mbnovak)
kg2005
meat (yickit)
TDO (joepunman)
todahshy (gingefringe97)

December 18, 2014 at 9:33 pm

beholdtheclaw

Re: Novak
If we lynch him today, he’ll be a villager, but if we leave him alive all game long, he’ll end up being a wolf. He has that special ability to ef up a game like that.

December 18, 2014 at 9:36 pm

beholdtheclaw

Hmm.. so the three people voting for me are Dread Pirate, Nettie, and TDO. Two of the three have had some of the most wolf heat this game.

unvote NettieBarron, VOTE DREAD PIRATE

I’m changing my vote so that I’m no longer the top vote getter.

December 18, 2014 at 9:38 pm

meat

yikes dude.

December 18, 2014 at 9:36 pm

yickit

I haven’t really been convinced to change my vote. I don’t really know what meat has against me but I do trend toward flip. Any villagers who vote for me are really only hurting the tribe.. Do what you will., but I’m trying to hang on here

December 18, 2014 at 9:40 pm

meat

It’s not a burning torch for your head, but your vote flipping at the end of last night was a huge red flag.

December 18, 2014 at 9:42 pm

TDO

his late vote flip didn’t effect the end result either way, he went from being the only vote on one person to the only vote on a different person. Could be seen as a don’t look at me vote though I see what your saying.

December 18, 2014 at 9:46 pm

meat

his late flip also wasn’t accompanied by any explanation. I know that there often isn’t time at the end to completely justify your actions, but if you’re still alive the next day you get the chance to explain. Yickit hasn’t really offered much up except ‘I just do irrational things from time to time’.

December 18, 2014 at 9:47 pm

Colin

in a scenario where he’s a newb wolf, it definitely took the heat off of voting late on someone who he knew to be a villager. this is something I remember from being in those shoes, that I didn’t want to vote on a villager because I might get suspicion put on me the next day. this is the main reason his voting stuck out to me last night. add to that he’s barely been around but to drop innocuous comments.

December 18, 2014 at 9:49 pm

yickit

I was actually trying to type a third but ran out if time. I wasn’t going to vote I bet and am not convinced on nettebar.

December 18, 2014 at 9:50 pm

Inkarnit

If I say I agree on yickit here is that okay? I’ve been saying this all day. Him and Annette being a wolf team. And I think Novak could be leasing it.

December 18, 2014 at 9:43 pm

Colin

my issue here is that you haven’t provided any reason for voting DP, at least that I’ve found. I went back through and the only thing I saw on it was your vote on him.
why do you think he’s a wolf? why is it that you’re not trying to help find a wolf, and just laying down a random vote?

December 18, 2014 at 9:40 pm

TDO

unvote punman

I think I know where I’m going with my vote, and it will probbly be posted late and could appear to be bandwagon, but i’m willing to take that gamble if my hunch is right.

December 18, 2014 at 9:42 pm

todahshy

unvote ginge

vote Annette

December 18, 2014 at 9:42 pm

The Dread Pirate

So the votes against me are because Ginge is away and had no where better to put it, yickit is spiting me from yesterday, and punman doesn’t want to be the top vote getter? That’s a pretty flimsy way to get me some heat.

I’m not too into punman, I just wanted him talking and explaining (which he has). Nettie jumping on that late rush for the second day in a row is awfully suspicious. Yickit’s vote yesterday still makes no sense. KG where are you?

unvote punman

December 18, 2014 at 9:43 pm

The Dread Pirate

I’ll get on board with you toadsy, vote nettiebarron

December 18, 2014 at 9:44 pm

bhiggum

vote- Novak

Yeah, I’m going back to this. If he’s not a wolf, I think some of the interactions he’s had still might lead us to a wolf or two.

December 18, 2014 at 9:47 pm

nettiebarron

unvote punman vote DP you gotta be a wolf!

December 18, 2014 at 9:49 pm

TDO

care to elaborate?

December 18, 2014 at 9:50 pm

The Dread Pirate

She hasn’t for two days. This is the third time she’s jumped onto a bandwagon in the last hour without explanation.

December 18, 2014 at 9:53 pm

Colin

yeah this.

December 18, 2014 at 9:48 pm

meat

where do we stand?

December 18, 2014 at 9:48 pm

TDO

if we get this vote wrong tommorrow we will be at a 7 villager 4 wolf. Just putting the math out there. It’s not do or die, but I’d rather get a wolf or a lot of info from who’s killed than to be getting backed into a corner.

December 18, 2014 at 9:49 pm

meat

who’s death do we learn the most from?

December 18, 2014 at 9:51 pm

TDO

yours….kidding

December 18, 2014 at 9:48 pm

spookymilk

Eleven minutes.

Dread Pirate 4 (nettiebarron)
nettiebarron 3 (Dread Pirate)
mbnovak 2 (nettiebarron)
yickit 2 (Dread Pirate)
joepunman (Dread Pirate)
gingefringe97 (Dread Pirate)
bhiggum (mbnovak)
Colin (yickit)
inkarnit (mbnovak)
kg2005
meat (yickit)
TDO
todahshy (nettiebarron)

December 18, 2014 at 9:52 pm

Colin

I feel really weird about this piling on DP. Yickit’s reasoning is terrible, and annette’s just trying to get heat off of herself. Ginge is absent and I don’t know about Joe.
it smells of a newb wolf pile on

December 18, 2014 at 9:53 pm

The Dread Pirate

I can’t even point out how silly the case against me is because no one has even put one forward.

December 18, 2014 at 9:52 pm

beholdtheclaw

Dread and Nettie are voting for each other. I think both are wolves. They could be throwing one of them under the bus. Frankly, I’m okay with either one gettin’ torched.

December 18, 2014 at 9:55 pm

Colin

but why do you think dread is a wolf? I haven’t seen anything from him to make me think that. his vote last night was explained well, and he’s been engaged and active.

December 18, 2014 at 9:57 pm

beholdtheclaw

Right now I think he and nettie are going head to head so as to draw heat from one another. I think they’re both wolves. They’re willing to throw the other under the bus.

December 18, 2014 at 9:52 pm

TDO

vote novak

December 18, 2014 at 9:53 pm

beholdtheclaw

interesting twist.

December 18, 2014 at 9:53 pm

meat

in the last few minutes we’ve seen nettie and punman jump onto the DP bandwagon. punman was willing to die on the sword, but took an opportunity to get the pressure off of himself.

December 18, 2014 at 9:54 pm

TDO

unvote novak
vote nettie

I’m going against my hunch and forcing a tie at this point. Game on people.

December 18, 2014 at 9:55 pm

The Dread Pirate

TDO, I would be willing to swap my Nettie for for Novak. I think we learn more from his death than from Nettie’s. Nettie’s either playing Sheeple and blindly following the mass, or she’s a blatantly obvious wolf we can nail tomorrow. Novak is much more of a threat if he’s wolf because he’ll cover his tracks and any additional days won’t give us more info.

December 18, 2014 at 9:55 pm

TDO

5 minutes. let the flurry begin. Right or wrong I think we find out a lot from the last minute moves.

December 18, 2014 at 9:55 pm

beholdtheclaw

unvote dread (butt) pirate, VOTE NETTIEBARRON Very groovy baby!

December 18, 2014 at 9:55 pm

meat

unvote yickit

December 18, 2014 at 9:56 pm

meat

vote yickit

Yeah, this is where my vote is staying.

December 18, 2014 at 9:56 pm

TDO

unvote nettie
vote novak

agreed DP, but I still dont trust you

December 18, 2014 at 9:57 pm

spookymilk

Three

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.
.
nettiebarron 4 (Dread Pirate)
Dread Pirate 3 (nettiebarron)
mbnovak 3 (nettiebarron)
yickit 2 (Dread Pirate)
joepunman (nettiebarron)
gingefringe97 (Dread Pirate)
bhiggum (mbnovak)
Colin (yickit)
inkarnit (mbnovak)
kg2005
meat (yickit)
TDO (mbnovak)
todahshy (nettiebarron)

December 18, 2014 at 9:58 pm

meat

what’s the count?

December 18, 2014 at 9:58 pm

The Dread Pirate

Understood, that you don’t trust me. unvote Nettie, vote Novak.

December 18, 2014 at 9:59 pm

TDO

seems both are fates are hinging on this vote now. Good or bad, we are stuck together tommorrow lol.

December 18, 2014 at 9:58 pm

meat

christ. I think novak is more likely a wolf than nettie, but i”m still suspicious of her…..

December 18, 2014 at 9:58 pm

spookymilk

ONE MINUTE

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..
mbnovak 4 (nettiebarron)
nettiebarron 3 (Dread Pirate)
Dread Pirate 3 (mbnovak)
yickit 2 (Dread Pirate)
joepunman (nettiebarron)
gingefringe97 (Dread Pirate)
bhiggum (mbnovak)
Colin (yickit)
inkarnit (mbnovak)
kg2005
meat (yickit)
TDO (mbnovak)
todahshy (nettiebarron)

December 18, 2014 at 9:59 pm

beholdtheclaw

Damn, I’m predicting it now: Novak’s gonna end up being a villager.

December 18, 2014 at 9:59 pm

beholdtheclaw

and Dread will have saved both him and Annette.

December 18, 2014 at 9:59 pm

meat

unvote yickit
vote novak

I hope we’re right.

December 18, 2014 at 9:59 pm

The Dread Pirate

Where is KG?

December 18, 2014 at 10:00 pm

yickit

Wolfing it seems

December 18, 2014 at 9:59 pm

yickit

Sorry PwTP rang.

December 18, 2014 at 10:00 pm

spookymilk

***IT IS NIGHT***

December 18, 2014 at 10:00 pm

The Dread Pirate

Seer, peek toadsy please!

December 18, 2014 at 10:01 pm

spookymilk

FINAL VOTING.
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.
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mbnovak 5 (nettiebarron)
nettiebarron 3 (Dread Pirate)
Dread Pirate 3 (mbnovak)
yickit 1 (Dread Pirate)
joepunman (nettiebarron)
gingefringe97 (Dread Pirate)
bhiggum (mbnovak)
Colin (yickit)
inkarnit (mbnovak)
kg2005
meat (mbnovak)
TDO (mbnovak)
todahshy (nettiebarron)

kg2005 will be mod-killed if he misses another vote, under the two-strike rule.

December 18, 2014 at 10:08 pm

spookymilk

The night that would become the longest in Assbutttown’s history rolled on, as Sheriff Meat had been apprised of the shenanigans and had locked down the county fair to keep suspects in their places. He gathered people near the freak show to question them.

“Why are you here?” the Sheriff asked yickit.

“I do what I feel like,” the rebel without a cause replied.

“Why are YOU here?” the Sheriff posed to kg2005.

Cage was tongue-tied, and couldn’t reply.

“And you? Why are you here?” the Sheriff asked flame-eater bhiggum.

“Mostly because spookymilk isn’t around to have killed me already,” he replied, breaking the fourth wall with no regard for the rules of prose.

“You missed it! NOOOOOOO!” cried gingefringe the albino, wailing as he ran from the freak show. “The smallest man in the world has been killed by wolves.”

The police force entered the big top, and after an exhaustive search, they found mbnovak’s body inside a clown shoe.

No hair, unfortunately. Dude’s a villager.

Seer and wolves, get at me. I’ll get at Play with the Prose now.

December 18, 2014 at 10:11 pm

spookymilk

Also, players, thoughts on the weekend? Tomorrow will play out regularly, but Saturday and Sunday are always irritatingly quiet. We can either do a two-day day for the weekend, or possibly reconvene Monday (though games always lose a lot of steam that way, too). Let’s chat. (Not here, via email)

December 19, 2014 at 1:37 pm

kg2005

Wait, what day is it?

December 19, 2014 at 1:38 pm

kg2005

Wait. This is day two. Don’t mind me. Closing this tab now.

December 19, 2014 at 12:32 am

mbnovak

*** DEAD, BUT SINGING ***

In the stiiiiiiillll of the niiiiiiiiight…

*** TAKE IT, MANIACAL LAUGHTER ***

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