After an impromptu funeral where they buried their fallen friend mbnovak in a shoe box, the freaks decided to get some rest, leaving the citizens of Assbutttown to wander the midway and accuse each other of being evil. inkarnit was fully loaded now, and catcalling the women and more androgynous men (beer goggles, and all that) who passed by. Colin and joepunman played the game where you use the water gun to race a car across the wall, which punman won when Colin elected to douse him with water instead because he likes to be a dick. yickit stood around in a leather jacket, telling people he disagreed with things. TDO, a carney barker, entreated poor dopes to try to do that impossible game where you knock down three hella heavy milk jugs.
nettiebear decided to try her hand at the game, and reached down into the bucket for the balls. Instead, she pulled out todahshy’s head and screamed.
“FOUR people dead? This might start to hurt my business soon,” TDO sighed.
uberminz Villager, Day 1, burned at the stake by anti-intellectuals
daneekasghost Villager, Night 1, couldn’t convince the wolves he was a wolf
mbnovak Villager, Day 2, body stuffed in a clown shoe
todahshy Villager, Night 2, ready to take out some milk jugs
bhiggum
Colin
Dread Pirate
gingefringe97
inkarnit
joepunman
kg2005
meat
nettiebarron
TDO
yickit
NIGHT falls at 9pm Central again. Not many people talked about the weekend, so maybe let’s do it now. A couple people intimated that suspending until Monday was the way to go; this could work but note that if we do this, we could feasibly have a final three-person day on December 24th. Then again, final days are typically extremely quick, so this might actually work. Also, later days usually speed up thanks to…various wolf moves that I won’t bore you with.
Anyway, start talking. Today was too quiet, what with only 358 comments or whatever.
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December 19, 2014 at 10:36 am
spookymilk
I had no idea this hadn’t posted as scheduled. I wish someone had gotten to me about it. But hey, it’s still early.
December 19, 2014 at 10:37 am
Inkarnit
I just figured you were late due to being sick and all.
December 19, 2014 at 10:46 am
yickit
yeah I figured the same and just compulsively hit refresh
December 19, 2014 at 10:38 am
Inkarnit
Okay so… Novak was right after all. Not a wolf.
December 19, 2014 at 10:41 am
yickit
I’m fine with playing over the weekend. Whatever works for most people is fine by me.
December 19, 2014 at 10:43 am
Inkarnit
Not able to be as active on weekends but will play if that’s what you guys want to do.
December 19, 2014 at 10:42 am
joepunman
VOTE NETTIEBARRON I could go with her or Dread Pirate. Really doesn’t matter. They both narrowly escaped death last night. They were ready to throw each other under the bus. I’m ready to vote ’em both out.
December 19, 2014 at 10:44 am
Inkarnit
I’m not ready to jump on a vote yet but I definitely want to investigate the two. But there were other shady actions that warrant some investigation as well.
December 19, 2014 at 10:44 am
joepunman
Weekend – I’ll be very sporadic. Would rather wait til Monday.
December 19, 2014 at 10:46 am
Inkarnit
As far as this morning goes, I will have limited availability until about noon my time. Is that 1pm CST? Yeah. 1pm CST or so I’ll be back with my normal availability. I have a rare trifecta of December appointments back to back this morning starting in 15 minutes.
December 19, 2014 at 10:46 am
joepunman
So, last night, Nettie was at 4, Dread Pirate at 3 and Novak at 3. DP changes his vote from Nettie to Novak at the last minute, putting Novak at the top. Meat comes by seconds later to switch his vote from Yickit to Novak, sealing the deal. Both are suspect.
December 19, 2014 at 10:52 am
Inkarnit
Well when you are the top vote-getter, you kinda get a little leeway when you switch to the next highest. I know him and TDO had talked about Novak and agreed to both change to him. DP was looking to save himself. TDO though had tons of reasons to switch to Novak. Obviously those reasons looked better on paper. I thought they were good reasons too which is why I voted for Novak as well. But I would like to hear from both TDO and DP this morning.
December 19, 2014 at 10:58 am
joepunman
DP was sort of saving himself, but in reality he ended up saving Nettie. I’d like to here from them as well. TDO’s probably my number 4
December 19, 2014 at 10:59 am
Inkarnit
If him and Nettie are working together… man that’d be masterful. I wouldn’t have pegged them as working together at all! They’ve been after each other all along haven’t they? You think that’s just been a little gamesmanship??
December 19, 2014 at 11:28 am
The Dread Pirate
TDO also made a late Nettie vote when talking with me. It sucks that Novak was a villager, but I still think he would have been more dangerous left in the game than Nettie if we thought one was a wolf and couldn’t decide which.
December 19, 2014 at 10:47 am
gingefringe97
Vote kg after being gone for mostrich of the day yesterday, I re-read the whole thread again, and noticed that kg did a lot of finger pointing, this will probably come around to bite me in the ass (no pun intended) but My gut feeling is telling me kg so ththat’s what I’m sticking with. I will again be absent today due to finals hopefully I will be on tonight
December 19, 2014 at 10:53 am
Inkarnit
You have a good point. KG is suspect. I think he was the first to point at Novak even. But then he disappeared. I also am not convinced you are not a wolf yet though.
December 19, 2014 at 11:27 am
spookymilk
Greg, at some point you’ll have to explain “mostrich” to me.
I mean, I get it. Typed m, accidentally hit space, and OST turned into ostrich. But it’s still awesome.
December 19, 2014 at 11:32 am
gingefringe97
Maybe it’s a moist ostrich, we will never know
December 19, 2014 at 11:39 am
spookymilk
I’m trying really hard to let that sound funny without thinking too much about it.
December 19, 2014 at 11:45 am
gingefringe97
What the poor albino ginger in the freak show spilled a jug of milk on his prize ostrich and now he is moist. Poor guy
December 19, 2014 at 12:08 pm
Colin
and this will be the first and last time I regard an ostrich sexually.
December 19, 2014 at 10:51 am
nettiebarron
Real life is going to be a bit of an issue for me today. I will try to stay involved though.
December 19, 2014 at 10:53 am
todahshy
Wow the angel really sucks this game.
December 19, 2014 at 10:53 am
Inkarnit
Rest in pieces poor todahshy’s head 😦
December 19, 2014 at 10:56 am
joepunman
He never did get ahead in life.
December 19, 2014 at 10:57 am
Inkarnit
Very punny!
December 19, 2014 at 10:54 am
joepunman
Top 3 wolves: Dread Pirate – for last night’s vote switch, NettieBarron – had a feeling all along and DP saved her last night, Ginge – newb wolf absentia.
December 19, 2014 at 10:57 am
Inkarnit
I know I got called lazy or wolfy or whatever for this yesterday but I really will be gone for the next several hours once my appointment arrives (unless someone doesn’t show up which is always possible). What can todahshy’s death tell us? Why would the wolves want to kill him?
December 19, 2014 at 10:59 am
joepunman
Here’s my theory: I think they targeted Novak and todahshy because they were both strong potential seer candidates. They were my top two candidates for seer. Thankfully, neither of them were.
December 19, 2014 at 11:02 am
Inkarnit
Hmm. If that is true then todahshy must have been on to something that made them think he was the seer.
December 19, 2014 at 11:05 am
nettiebarron
Can anything be made of DP’s last second request that the seer peek at Todashy? Not trying to cast suspicion, just wondering.
December 19, 2014 at 11:09 am
bhiggum
Well, a call for the seer to peek todashy would make him a target for the wolves- in the hopes that the seer did peek him and basically then wastes that peek.
December 19, 2014 at 11:11 am
Inkarnit
Oh that too.
December 19, 2014 at 11:40 am
The Dread Pirate
As a wolf, why would I even bother making that post when all it would do is draw attention to me if I then convinced the other wolves to kill him overnight?
That’s entirely top convoluted and would raise the degree of difficulty much higher than necessary.
Instead, as I said below, I was hoping the seer would look elsewhere (and I deliberately picked a person no one was suspecting), thinking the wolves might fall for the bait (which they did).
December 19, 2014 at 11:11 am
Inkarnit
Hmm. I can think of a few reasons.
a) he’s a villager and was suspicious of todahshy
b) he’s the seer and wanted to cast suspicion away from himself right before the wolves chose who to eat
c) he’s a wolf trying to create confusion
December 19, 2014 at 11:18 am
joepunman
I pick c. He’s a wolf and had pegged toad as the seer, was planning to take him out in the night anyway, and wanted the seer to waste a move.
December 19, 2014 at 11:19 am
joepunman
Either that or think of it this way: DP makes that request last night, wolves are trying to decide who to eliminate. They decide to kill someone that has a good chance of being “seen” so as to waste the seer’s move that night.
December 19, 2014 at 11:21 am
Inkarnit
He couldn’t have pegged todahshy as the seer and wanted to seer to waste a move. He wouldn’t be able to see himself. One or the other maybe though. Your other thought works though. DP as a wolf calls for todahshy to be peeked then has the wolves kill him to waste the peek? But why not just try to kill the seer instead?
December 19, 2014 at 11:14 am
The Dread Pirate
I was suspicious of toadsy and no one else seemed to be (I had a vote on him for awhile yesterday), so I figured the seer was one of many who thought he was a villager and so was unlikely to listen to me. Basically, it was hoping to misdirect the wolves so the seer could peek elsewhere.
December 19, 2014 at 11:03 am
The Dread Pirate
vote Nettie
She keeps jumping onto bandwagons without offering any explanation (classic wolf move trying to hide and not leave to much of a trail beyond “I was just following the crowd”). Especially egregious was her punman vote when there had been little discussion of him and TDO and I were in him just to see what happens. She made the classic new wolf move of throwing on the third vote.
Toadsy was implicating TDO, Nettie, inkarnit, and ginge. This seems like classic villager TDO (granted we’ve never seen wolf TDO), so I’ve got to think it’s more likely now that one or two of the newbs are wolves.
Ginge, what’s suspicious about kg besides him not being active?
December 19, 2014 at 11:09 am
Inkarnit
My 9am hasn’t shown up yet so went and found this:
This was todahshy’s last post with analysis. Annette, yickit, ginge, TDO were his top targets. Me, joe, and novak were in there as moderate targets as well. We know the novak one was wrong. He had to be on to something somewhere though right?
December 19, 2014 at 11:37 am
gingefringe97
Its not the fact that he isnt active, its the fact that he started the whole novak bandwagon, jumped off, and changed votes multiple times. He jumped off the novak train for no reason at all
December 19, 2014 at 11:39 am
Inkarnit
Hmm. So is ginge a villager really hunting wolves and have a good point here? Or is ginge a wolf trying to divert attention to the villager that disappeared yesterday and may not be around much to defend himself?
December 19, 2014 at 11:42 am
gingefringe97
Like I said day 1 I am a villager. Granted I may have had some wolf like moments, but it was my first time playing the game for christs sake. I know my point seems like a shot in the dark, but if we end up taking out kg tonight, its not like we are losing much. He is hardly present and has been acting a bit wolfy lately, so thats why I placed a vote on him
December 19, 2014 at 11:46 am
The Dread Pirate
Hardly losing much? Our margin of error is getting quite slim if we’re not killing wolves.
December 19, 2014 at 11:07 am
bhiggum
Final vote from last night-
mbnovak 5 (nettiebarron)
nettiebarron 3 (Dread Pirate)
Dread Pirate 3 (mbnovak)
yickit 1 (Dread Pirate)
joepunman (nettiebarron)
gingefringe97 (Dread Pirate)
bhiggum (mbnovak)
Colin (yickit)
inkarnit (mbnovak)
kg2005
meat (mbnovak)
TDO (mbnovak)
todahshy (nettiebarron)
December 19, 2014 at 11:12 am
yickit
Well, looks like us villagers aren’t very good at flushing out wolves. hopefully third time’s the charm
December 19, 2014 at 11:15 am
Inkarnit
No kidding. It’s day 3. We need to make some headway. This would be a good day for the seer to help out.
December 19, 2014 at 11:15 am
joepunman
Based on some of the people TDO was targeting yesterday (Novak included) I’m starting to get a strong wolf vibe from him.
December 19, 2014 at 11:16 am
Inkarnit
I didn’t feel a wolf vibe from him at all yesterday. That’s why I trusted his analysis. But those last minute moves… I dunno now.
December 19, 2014 at 11:16 am
joepunman
From most wolfy to least: Dread Pirate
Nettie Barron
TDO
meat (based on some votes yesterday)
ginge
yickit
kg
Colin
bhiggum
inkarnit
joepunman
December 19, 2014 at 11:25 am
Inkarnit
Wait… when did Assbutttown become a Freak Show?
December 19, 2014 at 11:37 am
gingefringe97
It has been since the beginning lol
December 19, 2014 at 11:40 am
gingefringe97
Also, Im still under suspicion that DP and Meat are wolves due to the fact that at last minute last night they jumped the nettie train to novak. Seems a bit wolfish to me. (Granted this is something coming from a noob, but I am starting to catch on)
December 19, 2014 at 11:43 am
Inkarnit
You do have a good point here. But I’m torn about how much to put into your good points. I really think you’re a wolf. Let’s pretend you’re not for a minute. So DP jumps ship to novak after making an agreement with TDO. Makes both of them look fishy. DP also calls for the seer to peek at todahshy who is later killed by the wolves… not sure what to make of that. Meat? He wasn’t around too much during the day. He came on late last night and caught up reading things then made a decision. His vote for anyone would have come towards the end as a result. Deciding on novak, which plenty of evidence had been pointed out for, wasn’t necessarily wolfy on his part so much as the logical choice. But we were wrong on that “logical” choice. So now we’re back to who pointed things at novak in the first place?
December 19, 2014 at 11:44 am
The Dread Pirate
Meat’s switch is definitely odd. I switched my vote several times during the last hour to see what would happen. I think my vote on punman got Nettie to our herself as a wolf when she joined in with no explanation (after doing the same thing with uber the day before), but I also know the number rule at the site is don’t let Novak wriggle out when you suspect him.
December 19, 2014 at 1:54 pm
meat
My switch seems odd, but as I pointed out in two posts I felt that novak’s game was uncharacteristic. I see now that he was actually gone from the game (duh), but at the time I justified my votes. I also see a coin flip as a cop out that allows wolves to hide. I made a choice to go after a majority because I thought it was better for the village.
December 19, 2014 at 1:58 pm
meat
I was on the yickit train all day, and had been making my case about Novak early as well.
December 19, 2014 at 11:41 am
joepunman
The more I think about it, the more that DP move to peek toadsy screams wolfish behavior. Doing that at the last minute, without group discussion, really helps the wolves.
unvote nettie, VOTE DREAD PIRATE
December 19, 2014 at 11:42 am
kg2005
Holy crap, guys. I forgot a werewolf game was going on. Who am I? What have I become?
December 19, 2014 at 11:44 am
Inkarnit
I don’t know. Are you a wolf. There’s speculation.
December 19, 2014 at 11:44 am
Inkarnit
That period is a question mark. Just pretend.
December 19, 2014 at 11:46 am
kg2005
This game would be a lot more fun for everyone if I were a wolf.
December 19, 2014 at 11:49 am
gingefringe97
Isnt that something a wolf would say?
December 19, 2014 at 11:50 am
kg2005
Hi ginge, my name is Erik. The fun thing about me is that I’ll say the same thing whether or not I’m a wolf. This isn’t amateur hour.
December 19, 2014 at 12:13 pm
Colin
this. yes. Glad you’re back.
December 19, 2014 at 11:52 am
bhiggum
Here’s my list, probably not as well thought out as it should be-
nettie not switching to novak could have just been because she was posting from her phone- I was struggling trying to keep up and follow from my phone, too. She’s still awfully suspicious for several of her moves.
DP is definitely around and engaged. The call for the seer to peek todahshy last night was an interesting move. Leaning villager just for that.
yickit still seems villager to me- but keep in mind he’s played the game before, just not here. Not a full-on noob.
punman has had some very good points today about the voting last night. I was thinking wolf yesterday, but I’m not so sure now.
gingefringe is tough. I hate trying to parse newbies, and I don’t know how much to attribute to his experience or whatever.
Colin seems like a villager to me. Which means he’s probably a wolf. I can’t read Colin. I’ll just try and stay away from him.
inkarnit has really done very little to make me think he’s a wolf. That might change when we finally find a damn wolf.
I don’t know what to make of kg being gone the whole day. I could see him choosing to do it as a wolf- don’t give any information out at all, taking the strike as a strategic choice.
meat. Can meat really be a wolf again? I don’t think he is- the late vote switch from yickit to novak last night pretty much clears him for me.
TDO seems like a villager. He usually is a villager and then he seems like a wolf. Too easy? Probably.
December 19, 2014 at 11:56 am
kg2005
Making friends, are we?
December 19, 2014 at 12:04 pm
bhiggum
Hah, sure! I really don’t have a lot of folks I want to point fingers at right now. I’ve been in on uber and novak very early both days, and obviously missed badly. I’m hoping someone comes up with something convincing for me to follow.
December 19, 2014 at 11:54 am
kg2005
Okay, let me catch up on yesterday. I’ll sort this mess out*.
*Probably not
December 19, 2014 at 12:05 pm
gingefringe97
Unvote Kg I still have suspicions, but I am going to keep my vote on DP again tonight. The DP move last night has really raised my suspicion on him so VoteDP
December 19, 2014 at 12:09 pm
The Dread Pirate
That’s two days now when you’ve voted for me without really explaining why.
December 19, 2014 at 12:16 pm
gingefringe97
My reasoning is last night you jumped from nettie to novak at the last minute. My question why? Novak was already on the top list, why did you just jump on the bandwagon?
December 19, 2014 at 12:21 pm
The Dread Pirate
Nettie was on top when TDO and I agreed to switch. I’ve said several times both today and yesterday that I was more fearful of Novak as a wolf than Nettie as a wolf because he’s shown a ridiculous ability to escape pressure when we all know the signs point to him.
Yes, I was about him yesterday but I was hardly the only one.
December 19, 2014 at 12:08 pm
Colin
here and reading
December 19, 2014 at 12:09 pm
joepunman
I’ll throw this out there as well. All 4 dead villagers had votes on Annette when they were killed.
December 19, 2014 at 12:10 pm
The Dread Pirate
Whoa, good catch.
December 19, 2014 at 12:14 pm
gingefringe97
thats a great catch actually!
December 19, 2014 at 12:14 pm
kg2005
Only half of that is relevant, though.
December 19, 2014 at 12:15 pm
joepunman
except that all 4 of them were also villagers.
December 19, 2014 at 12:16 pm
Inkarnit
This really does seem important. I switched off Annette yesterday for the novak argument but… this can’t be coincidence. And where’s TDO? I want to hear from him too.
December 19, 2014 at 12:17 pm
kg2005
And half of them were eliminated by the village, which is irrelevant to the wolves’ line of thinking. Seems more coincidence than evidence.
December 19, 2014 at 12:20 pm
joepunman
A village that has 4 werewolves in it. Only saving grace is that Nettie kept her vote on the Pirate last night
December 19, 2014 at 12:20 pm
joepunman
Awfully defensive of your fellow wolf kg 🙂
December 19, 2014 at 12:23 pm
kg2005
I mean, if the wolves were able to purposefully orchestrate a vote out of everyone who voted for Annette on day one like has happened, then we don’t stand any sort of chance against these manipulative giants.
December 19, 2014 at 12:14 pm
Inkarnit
Uncanny.
December 19, 2014 at 12:14 pm
nettiebarron
I didn’t switch to Novak last night because I (maybe newbie foolishly) believed his theory about the seer peeking him early on. DP seems the most wolfish to me. He’s very quick to make accusations, support those accusations, then accuse anyone who votes with him. That seems very wolfish and that move last minute last night seems like a dead give away.
vote DP
December 19, 2014 at 12:18 pm
joepunman
Day 3 voting
Dread Pirate 3 (nettiebarron)
nettiebarron 1 (Dread Pirate)
joepunman (Dread Pirate)
gingefringe97 (Dread Pirate)
yickit
bhiggum
Colin
inkarnit
kg2005
meat
TDO
todahshy
December 19, 2014 at 12:25 pm
joepunman
So, who do we want the seer to peek tonight so that that person can get killed by the wolves?
December 19, 2014 at 12:27 pm
joepunman
It’s no secret that I’ve been all over DP and Annette. I say kill one today, peek the other tomorrow night. If that other is still alive, good chance they’re not a wolf!
December 19, 2014 at 12:31 pm
kg2005
Okay, I skimmed through yesterday. Let’s be frank about my strengths and weaknesses:
Strengths: Wolfing, figuring out how roles can affect the game and how I can use that to my advantage
Weaknesses: Figuring out why people do what they do
So a super vanilla game of werewolf is not my thing. No more vanilla werewolf, Kelly!
So let’s talk about what we know for sure:
1. We have one more screw up. If the village votes off two more villagers, we lose.
2. If we do screw up, we have to be EXTREMELY careful with our votes from then on. One villager on villager vote could result on a wolf pile on and game over.
3. We have one ace up our sleeve, the seer. It’s time to think about the seer revealing himself to narrow the field. Knowing whose analysis you can trust is vital. If the seer knows of the roles of at least two other people (plus yourself!), I suggest revealing yourself now. If you’ve peeked dead people, stay hidden for one more day.
Speaking of which, hey Will, why would you tell the seer to peek todah at the end of the day? That didn’t work out.
December 19, 2014 at 12:52 pm
The Dread Pirate
As I explained above, no one seemed to be suspecting todahshy (besides me, but my suspicions had decreased when no one else engaged with my early vote for him yesterday) so he seemed like a safe villager on whom we could all rely. I was hoping the seer would also think he was a safe villager and peeked elsewhere. Finally I was hoping the wolves would fall for the bait (which they did) and make sure the seer got an unmolested peek.
Given that the wolves reacted similarly to bhiggum and me when you and Beau made a similar move, I’m thinking we’ve got a newb wolf or two (like todahshy was suspecting). And again, that leads me back to Nettie.
December 19, 2014 at 12:56 pm
kg2005
If the seer didn’t peek Todah, it was awesome.
December 19, 2014 at 1:00 pm
The Dread Pirate
Fingers crossed
December 19, 2014 at 12:32 pm
Colin
I’ve read and caught up and here’s my thoughts:
Joe: looks the cleanest to me, posts seems rational and relaxed and seems to be actively looking for wolves
Annette: has to be wolf. her last minute bandwagon vote changes to save herself and little explanation just scream wolf.
Dread Pirate: I watched as the bandwagon got started on DP last night, and the one thing that stuck out to me was that he didn’t panic or start trying to drum up another vote, he made a rational argument for novak, which then everyone jumped on. The last minute call to have the seer peek toadahshy was weird, but it didn’t make me think wolf. It’s been a common thing to have last minute calls to the seer on who they should peek in a lot of games, though, so that’s why it didn’t stand out to me. I’m leaning villager here.
Meat – he’s been mostly quiet and switching his votes up at the end of the night, which is how meat always plays, and meat is almost always a wolf. I’m leaning wolf here.
TDO: his posts have been good, he’s been active and engaged, but his suspicions keep getting villagers killed. I’m still leaning villager here.
KG: Nothing to go on, for me. I’ve battled with KG in so many games that I don’t want to engage. KG as a wolf is scary because he knows how to play it well. His absence is not a concern for me, but I’m not going to go either way until I see him be more active. unsure.
Ginge: I’m leaning wolf, given his willingness to follow lousy reasoning against DP, a great sign of a wolf for me is when someone responds to a thin argument with “yeah totally let’s kill him!” and then follow through with blinders on.
Inkarnit: starting to look more newb villagery than new wolf to me. he’s still hard to read, but seems to be hunting.
bhiggs: every game I make a post about how wolfy bhiggs looks. This game is no different. He came out with his post today that looked like a day 1 analysis, and is just plan wishy washy, noncommittal bunk. that’s fine day 1, but day three that just screams wolf trying to look active. I don’t buy his targets as legit as his suspicions feel like they’re wandering around wherever is safest for him.
Yickit: I’ve been on Yick the whole game about his posting, and nothings changed. normally a wolf would change up their game a little to get that suspicion backed off. I’m not sure here anymore. undecided.
I think that’s everyone but I’m writing this as fast as possible between appointments. Speaking of which, I’ll be around for about 30 minutes, then I’m headed to my son’s school to watch his performance. I’ll be back in the afternoon, and then gone during the usual dinnertime routine to be back around 8 given my sh*thead daughter sleeps in her f***ing bed like a person tonight.
December 19, 2014 at 12:35 pm
kg2005
Dammit Colin, I want to engage with you, but this is the most villagery post you’ve ever posted. Which makes me think you’re a wolf. Have I mentioned I’m not very good at this?
December 19, 2014 at 12:53 pm
Colin
I LOVE YOU MAN! IM JUST GONNA SAY IT!
Seriously though, your amateur hour post had me laughing for a solid minute.
.,! Colin:; one awesome thing about doing this on my phone is I can use the dictation feature. Spooky milk for Uebel titular voiced ostrich!
December 19, 2014 at 1:18 pm
Inkarnit
I’m trying to decide how to take the fact that I look like a newb when I am a newb… Thanks? I think.
December 19, 2014 at 12:34 pm
bhiggum
vote- nettie
I’ll go with the person I’m most suspicious of.
December 19, 2014 at 12:35 pm
Colin
just to get it in, just in case: I’m for annette today.
vote annette
December 19, 2014 at 12:52 pm
bhiggum
I hope she’s a wolf- that would really clear things up for you and me.
December 19, 2014 at 12:37 pm
joepunman
Is that 3-3 Net-DP?
December 19, 2014 at 12:38 pm
kg2005
Yes.
December 19, 2014 at 12:48 pm
kg2005
Reading through yesterday, in the battle between Annette and Will, I’m definitely team Will.
December 19, 2014 at 12:50 pm
bhiggum
You mean you think Will is more wolfy?
December 19, 2014 at 12:53 pm
kg2005
I think Annette is more wolfy.
December 19, 2014 at 12:57 pm
bhiggum
OK, that’s my read too, obviously.
December 19, 2014 at 12:38 pm
kg2005
Hey TDO! How are you enjoying your first experience as a wolf?
December 19, 2014 at 12:51 pm
TDO
Lol. Im know wolf. You never have said that to me of all the games weve played and all the times youve accused. Odd
December 19, 2014 at 12:50 pm
yickit
*puts on leather jacket*
*looks around*
*decides he likes this game*
DP asked me why I singled him out on day one for jumping on my “non” vote. I expected it from KG, plus I was moving my vote off of DP iirc. So I was surprised he wanted me to jump on the uber vote, when he really should have.
Fun fact, I’m working from home today and actually have a leather jacket on since I’m carrying stuff out to the car for our drive tonight.
December 19, 2014 at 12:51 pm
yickit
*when he should have just been happy I wasn’t voting for him.
December 19, 2014 at 12:57 pm
Colin
Yeah, but what’s weird about this to me is that I’ve been all over your non-vote too and you haven’t said anything about me, but that’s your main reasoning for being on will? Your voting on day one was highly suspicious and it really makes me think twice when you say he should’ve just been happy you werent voting him as if you know he’s a villager.
December 19, 2014 at 1:01 pm
yickit
Well I didn’t think I should be all over everyone at once.
I haven’t played as many times with you in other games as I have with KG and DP. KG and I were a pair in Gods and Mortals, and DP and I have crossed many paths too.
So I have no idea what to think about you, which isn’t unlike the way you view my votes.
December 19, 2014 at 1:06 pm
The Dread Pirate
Why should I care that you moved your vote off me? You were deliberately avoiding helping decide who we thought was a wolf. That’s just wolfy regardless of whom you were voting.
December 19, 2014 at 1:07 pm
The Dread Pirate
Or, if not wolfy, very odd and unhelpful.
December 19, 2014 at 1:12 pm
yickit
Odd yeah. But I also could have just kept my vote on you and not tried to show up on my phone. I couldn’t be super active leading up to the last 30 mins, so instead of jumping on something I didn’t agree with, I jump from one low vote to another.
December 19, 2014 at 1:53 pm
Colin
There it is. This makes sense to me.
December 19, 2014 at 2:14 pm
The Dread Pirate
Good point, if you were a wolf, you don’t even show up to make that late vote. That’s about the strongest villager argument for anybody in the whole game.
December 19, 2014 at 2:16 pm
Inkarnit
Wait what? Can you run that through Barney style?
December 19, 2014 at 2:21 pm
yickit
Barney style?
December 19, 2014 at 2:23 pm
Inkarnit
Big purple dinosaur. Talks to kids as if they don’t know how anything works. Aka simplify this for a n00b.
December 19, 2014 at 1:09 pm
yickit
Well whether you thought they were wolfy is really none of my concern. I didn’t and why would I help lynch someone I didn’t think was a wolf. If you would have been right, I’d be questioning my own choices, but that isn’t the situation we find ourselves in.
December 19, 2014 at 12:58 pm
kg2005
Let’s talk about the seer. Does anyone disagree that the seer should come forward if he has two clean peeks?
December 19, 2014 at 1:11 pm
nettiebarron
Agreed.
December 19, 2014 at 1:21 pm
bhiggum
Yeah, the math works out, right? That would give us the seer as a confirmed villager and the identities of two players. I’d come forward if I was the seer and I had two players confirmed.
December 19, 2014 at 1:22 pm
Inkarnit
With our luck so far the seer peeked DG and todahshy 😛 But yes. I would like to know what he’s seen.
December 19, 2014 at 1:23 pm
kg2005
I’m afraid there’s a pretty big chance that’s true. Did the seer get a night 0 pick? Anyone know?
December 19, 2014 at 1:43 pm
Inkarnit
I think I recall that being the case. But I think novak is a pretty good night 0 pick. If I was the seer I would want to know what novak was up to from the start.
December 19, 2014 at 1:25 pm
joepunman
Don’t forget Novak!
December 19, 2014 at 1:27 pm
kg2005
We try to.
December 19, 2014 at 12:59 pm
TDO
On phone this sucks. Be on laptop in few hours. Not liking my swing and misses. Must be rusty. Which makes me not trust myself. Posted yesterday id be on less at first today. Also said i voted a tie late to get action which is what happened. Weve been not doing welk because weve been passive and i wanted to shake up. I said me and dp agreeing wiuld draw suspicion on me if wrong and it has justly. My main points for now is late dp comment to peek toda then toda dies. Screems wolf to me as it wastes a seer peek which wolves would know. Wolves wouldbt leave toda alive with that comment as it would be a confirmed villager. Its better to kill a peak than guess the seer as a wolf. Also annette late votes tells wolf to me. Bhig and kg are my other wolf guess. I think i know who seer is too.
December 19, 2014 at 1:16 pm
Inkarnit
Briefly back between appointments. Reading to catch up now.
December 19, 2014 at 1:19 pm
yickit
Don’t bother just throw some stuff around and see if anything sticks.
December 19, 2014 at 1:20 pm
Inkarnit
I did! See below.
December 19, 2014 at 1:20 pm
Inkarnit
Okay so I think that the wolves are:
Annette, Dread Pirate, Ginge, TDO. I think they are fabricating some in-fighting to throw us off. I’m not 100% sold on any of them. Seems Annette and DP already have some heat so…
vote TDO
December 19, 2014 at 1:32 pm
TDO
Thanks. I’ve never gotten this far without my first vote. Why are you voting for me though?
December 19, 2014 at 1:41 pm
Inkarnit
Hey my pleasure! It’s simple really. You and DP were working together on those votes yesterday really closely. You had very convincing points to make against novak that convinced quite a few of us. And as I said above, it appears to me that you guys working in concert and saving Annette at the last moment could have been a very clever wolf-ploy. I think you’re in on the wolfness and they already have some votes, so I’m voting for you. I’ll let the other villagers figure out which of you is the biggest threat but I’m convinced it’s all of you.
December 19, 2014 at 1:48 pm
TDO
If dp and i are working together as wolves why would i post today that they are my top two today? Under your theory you would kill me then im a wolf who outed 2 other wolves? Leaving 1 wolf with 8 villagers and the seer. No im a villager if you kill me then go after them it would cost another day and put us in cant miss mode. We need the cushion since there are 4 wolves
December 19, 2014 at 1:57 pm
Inkarnit
Willing to throw someone under the bus to use exactly this argument and remove suspicion when the others already have enough suspicion. Sounds like dissociation to me.
December 19, 2014 at 1:49 pm
TDO
I thibk we need to discuss whether the seer comes out today or not. Were down 4 villagers
December 19, 2014 at 1:59 pm
spookymilk
Yes, there was a night zero peek. I’m fairly sure, now that I think about it, that the only person that knew this was the seer.
December 19, 2014 at 2:01 pm
Inkarnit
Uhh, really?
December 19, 2014 at 2:02 pm
spookymilk
Dickmouth, what I’m saying is that neither the village nor the wolves were told earlier. It’s important that everyone knows that everyone was on the same footing.
December 19, 2014 at 2:04 pm
Inkarnit
I know what you are saying. I’m just saying that I knew the seer got a day 0 pick.
December 19, 2014 at 2:10 pm
TDO
So your saying your the seer. So if thats the case who did you peak since its out of the bag. Though i dont think youre the seer
December 19, 2014 at 2:12 pm
Inkarnit
I’m not saying that. I did read some other werewolf games though. So perhaps I got it from there. If I was the seer and had two clean peeks I would tell people today though. If I was the seer.
December 19, 2014 at 2:00 pm
spookymilk
As we enter the dead early afternoon hours with eight hours to go…
.
.
.
Dread Pirate 3 (nettiebarron)
nettiebarron 3 (Dread Pirate)
TDO 1
bhiggum (nettiebarron)
Colin (nettiebarron)
gingefringe97 (Dread Pirate)
inkarnit (TDO)
joepunman (Dread Pirate)
kg2005
meat
yickit
December 19, 2014 at 2:08 pm
TDO
11 so 6 is majority.
December 19, 2014 at 2:09 pm
meat
I’m again busy at the museum. No rest for the weary. I’ll be in and out. I posted my reason for my vote switch above.
December 19, 2014 at 2:15 pm
joepunman
Let’s see if this scenario makes sense: Who is the seer most likely to peek? Players who have a certain notoriety. Perhaps a Brooks Maki and a Matt Novak. Wolves decide that the best way to nullify the seer is to pick villagers the seer is most likely to peek. That would explain the DG kill on night 1.
Night 2, Novak was very likely to be the other wolf target. However, DP and meat switched votes at the last minute to let the village do the wolves dirty work. Instead, DP throws out a name at the last minute. Wolves pounce on this, thinking that if the seer listens to DP, they can make him waste another peek.
Day 3. Seer has not come forward. If DG and Novak were indeed peeked, it makes sense that they have not come forward.
December 19, 2014 at 2:19 pm
Inkarnit
That certainly makes sense to me. But are you saying DP is a wolf trying to guide the seer’s choice? And what if the seer didn’t even see that last post? It was made pretty much last minute. And if the seer did see that post, knowing DP was a heavy wolf candidate, would they actually follow that advice?
December 19, 2014 at 2:25 pm
Inkarnit
I think it’s highly likely the seer has peaked DG and Novak as you said. The 3rd is the question. Perhaps they have 1 useful peek and can help us on day 4.
December 19, 2014 at 2:29 pm
yickit
Right, I’m wondering if they only have 1 clear
December 19, 2014 at 2:31 pm
Inkarnit
Too bad he can’t really come forward and tell us safely.
December 19, 2014 at 2:27 pm
The Dread Pirate
If I’m a wolf, why do I plant a giant red flag on myself to “have the village do my dirty work” when I can do it overnight without getting any heat?
Similarly, why even bother with the todahshy post to again direct attention my way?
Occam’s Razor doesn’t apply to that analysis.
December 19, 2014 at 2:29 pm
Inkarnit
Perhaps Occam’s Shotgun does though.
December 19, 2014 at 2:30 pm
Inkarnit
Seriously though that’s a good point. Why would you take all that heat? Perhaps to protect Annette?
December 19, 2014 at 2:31 pm
kg2005
If I’m a wolf and there’s that much heat on Annette, I don’t do a damn thing to protect her.
December 19, 2014 at 2:35 pm
Inkarnit
So you think DP is innocent then? That protecting Annette was just a side effect of lynching Novak? Now you’ve got me unsure about them. I’m confident in my TDO vote though.
December 19, 2014 at 2:52 pm
kg2005
I don’t think that makes him innocent. I just don’t think a wolf with DP’s experience would be caught trying to protect another wolf.
December 19, 2014 at 2:31 pm
The Dread Pirate
If I’m doing this to protect Nettie, I’m doing an awful job
December 19, 2014 at 2:37 pm
nettiebarron
I’m going to have to second that.
December 19, 2014 at 2:35 pm
joepunman
Heat’s already on you. You’re expendable. You and Annette have been going back and forth already. You each are willing to sacrifice the other to hide the other two. Last minute, you realize you can get two villagers instead of possibly losing a wolf to a last minute vote. Novak’s a great decoy, even fooled meat. Even when Novak turned up a villager, you wolves are still in great shape needing just two villagers to be lynched to win.
December 19, 2014 at 2:32 pm
The Dread Pirate
Ok going to have limited access because I’m off to a hearing an hour away. Be back asap.
December 19, 2014 at 2:36 pm
joepunman
And a reminder that he’s works in law. Do you need any more evidence that this man is a monster? I think not. I rest my case your honor!
December 19, 2014 at 4:08 pm
meat
I totes think you’re onto something re lawyers. Is do into defending scumbags or is he a patent troll? Maybe he’s a public defender in which case he’s just into tortouring himself.
December 19, 2014 at 2:39 pm
joepunman
wouldn’t it be funny if the seer peeked at TDO thinking that’s what DP meant by “toadsy”
December 19, 2014 at 2:41 pm
Inkarnit
Well then the seer should be voting TDO with me then! He’d know that guy’s a wolf!
December 19, 2014 at 2:49 pm
yickit
out for a bit back soonish
December 19, 2014 at 2:52 pm
Inkarnit
We have to beat 358 comments people. Kelly said so. Talk more!
December 19, 2014 at 3:56 pm
Inkarnit
Eff you Inkarnit! We don’t wanna talk!
Oh. Okay then. Carry on.
December 19, 2014 at 2:54 pm
kg2005
So let’s assume TDO is a wolf. What does that tell us about anyone else?
December 19, 2014 at 3:00 pm
Inkarnit
I’m not too sure how that ties everything together. I’ve only gotten to step 1.
December 19, 2014 at 3:20 pm
joepunman
Step 2: ?????
Step 3: Profit
December 19, 2014 at 3:22 pm
Inkarnit
Oh you’ve played Cards Against Humanity too I see.
December 19, 2014 at 3:29 pm
kg2005
South Park! Underpants gnomes!
December 19, 2014 at 3:31 pm
spookymilk
Yeah, Inkarnit. Everything even mildly funny from Cards Against Humanity was taken from somewhere else.
December 19, 2014 at 4:10 pm
joepunman
In about an hour, I’ll likely be out for the evening. I stand by my Dread Pirate vote. I’d also be game for an Annette vote.
Bhiggum and Colin, would you be willing to switch to DP?
Or Ginge, would you be wiling to switch to Annette?
December 19, 2014 at 4:20 pm
bhiggum
I could see pirate being a wolf. But I think Colin lays it out pretty well below why I’d rather stick with Nettie.
December 19, 2014 at 4:11 pm
joepunman
TDO, KG, Meat, Yickit. Any leanings?
December 19, 2014 at 4:19 pm
meat
I have suspicions but I don’t have the time to write them from work / phone.
December 19, 2014 at 4:17 pm
Colin
I’m back. I’ll be around until 4:30 or so.
I’m not seeing much new develop – it seems that we’re divided right now between Annette and DP.
Yesterday’s late night run on DP felt really wrong to me. If felt like wolves moving suspicion from themselves onto another target in the hopes that the newer players would hop on the wagon.
today, the same people have been working on him all day, with the same reasons, despite any counter arguments. I do see why he would look wolfy. and it absolutely makes sense, but given how many times I’ve thought the same thing about DP in the past I’m not into that vote.
I went back and read DP’s game, and annette’s game, and meats game. DP still looks ok to me, but annette and meat are looking the worst.
So, that said, I’m pretty firm on my annette vote. I’d move to a meat vote but I’m not comfortable voting DP.
I agree that the seer likely picked DG and Novak, knowing their history in the game, and if that’s true the seer should stay hidden. however, if the seer has picked anyone else and has any good information – tonight is the time to get that out into the open. if we lose tonight we are pretty screwed. we need to get a wolf.
so, what does everyone think about the vote tonight? I’m hoping we can get a little more critical thinking going on with this vote.
December 19, 2014 at 4:20 pm
Inkarnit
Does no one else see TDO as a threat?
December 19, 2014 at 4:30 pm
Colin
at the moment he looks wishy washy and could possibly be playing his first wolf game ever exactly like he’s played every other game a villager, but there’s not enough there for me to look hard at him right now.
December 19, 2014 at 4:32 pm
Inkarnit
Huh. Maybe I’m seeing into things too much. I seem to be the only one who sees him as a surefire wolf.
December 19, 2014 at 4:34 pm
nettiebarron
Sorry, so busy today and family coming in to town tonight. I’m sticking with my DP vote. He’s been leading the charge against me pretty hard and I suspect he KNOWS I’m not a wolf. We cannot afford to lose any more villagers, so don’t vote Nettie!
December 19, 2014 at 4:36 pm
Inkarnit
Actually it appears that your buddy The Claw aka joepunman is leading the charge. He was the first one to come out this morning gunning for you. And as you said on day 1, The Claw will not steer us wrong…
December 19, 2014 at 4:39 pm
Inkarnit
Though he did change things to DP later. And I guess DP took up the call to arms after. Bah! I still think you two are in cahoots.
December 19, 2014 at 4:46 pm
nettiebarron
I can’t figure out how you are escaping being wolfish? You’re all over the place.
December 19, 2014 at 4:49 pm
Inkarnit
How so? I’ve said from the beginning of the day that I think you, DP, ginge, and TDO are wolves. I have a vote in for TDO because you and DP already have votes. One of you are going down and I don’t know if it matters which.
December 19, 2014 at 4:49 pm
Colin
he’s not. I’ve been all over him about it this game. I’ve seen more hunting today than previous days so I’ve backed off, but I see it too.
December 19, 2014 at 4:51 pm
kg2005
vote TDO
Duh.
December 19, 2014 at 4:56 pm
Inkarnit
Yickit, haven’t heard much from you today. What are your thoughts?
December 19, 2014 at 4:59 pm
kg2005
Hey guys, everyone vote for TDO so I don’t have to spend my Friday night on the internet. That is so 2011.
December 19, 2014 at 5:02 pm
Inkarnit
For that to happen we’d need… 4 people to change their votes to him? I don’t think we’re looking at a majority kind of day. But then I don’t think we need to. I think we have the right targets.
December 19, 2014 at 5:02 pm
joepunman
If ginge and I change our votes, that gives us 5 on Annette. I’m okay voting for her. Anyone else on board?
December 19, 2014 at 5:03 pm
Inkarnit
I’m really feeling my vote but… I’ll think about it.
December 19, 2014 at 5:14 pm
joepunman
well, it’s time for me to sign off soon. In the hopes that we’ll get a solid majority, I’m going to switch my vote:
unvote dread pirate, VOTE NETTIEBARRON
December 19, 2014 at 5:16 pm
bhiggum
is this right?
Dread Pirate 3 (nettiebarron)
nettiebarron 3 (Dread Pirate)
TDO 2
bhiggum (nettiebarron)
Colin (nettiebarron)
gingefringe97 (Dread Pirate)
inkarnit (TDO)
joepunman (Dread Pirate)
kg2005 (TDO)
meat
yickit
December 19, 2014 at 5:16 pm
bhiggum
Of course not. Dammit, joe!
December 19, 2014 at 5:17 pm
Inkarnit
LOL He knew you were composing that.
December 19, 2014 at 5:18 pm
joepunman
*Maniacal Laugh*
December 19, 2014 at 5:17 pm
bhiggum
Take 2-
nettiebarron 4 (Dread Pirate)
Dread Pirate 2 (nettiebarron)
TDO 2
bhiggum (nettiebarron)
Colin (nettiebarron)
gingefringe97 (Dread Pirate)
inkarnit (TDO)
joepunman (nettiebarron)
kg2005 (TDO)
meat
yickit
December 19, 2014 at 5:18 pm
bhiggum
unvote- nettie
December 19, 2014 at 5:19 pm
bhiggum
I’ll put that vote back on in a bit- just wanted to unvote and consider for a while what we’ve been seeing.
December 19, 2014 at 5:21 pm
Inkarnit
I think we’re seeing people hiding out today. Hoping to avoid targetting by being absent. Ginge, yickit, TDO where you guys at now?
December 19, 2014 at 5:20 pm
Inkarnit
Ooh. The thot plickens!
December 19, 2014 at 5:23 pm
bhiggum
To be clear, I still think nettie is a wolf. I just don’t want to hit majority with multiple people out there getting a strike for not voting yet.
December 19, 2014 at 5:21 pm
bhiggum
We’ve got TDO, meat and yickit who haven’t voted yet, when we had three votes on two players for what, three hours? That seems unusual- I would have thought a wolf would have gone ahead and voted for either of those two a while ago.
December 19, 2014 at 5:23 pm
Inkarnit
So you’re saying you don’t think any of them are wolves?
December 19, 2014 at 5:26 pm
bhiggum
I think there is at least one wolf in that group of three. Two might even make sense, and then at least one of DP or Nettie is a wolf. If DP and nettie are both villagers, I would have thought the wolves would have gone ahead and piled on to reach majority already.
This all assumes people are active and present, of course.
December 19, 2014 at 5:29 pm
Inkarnit
Yes, I agree with your line of thinking there. I think one of those 3 non-voters is a wolf waiting to get a last vote majority on someone. I also think DP and Annette are both wolves and that they are willing to sacrifice one of themselves. I still think TDO is that other wolf though. I doubt the wolves would want too many of themselves on one vote. And it makes sense if they’re both wolves because they don’t want to pile onto one of their own and then give away the remaining wolves.
December 19, 2014 at 5:25 pm
spookymilk
Nobody gets a strike if a majority is reached.
December 19, 2014 at 5:26 pm
bhiggum
Oh, right- it’s the deadline that’s a strike. Nevermind me.
December 19, 2014 at 5:27 pm
Inkarnit
Yeah I was just about to ask this question.
December 19, 2014 at 5:29 pm
meat
I’m on my way home early, but i have to go hang art at a clients house again. I’ll post my thoughts in a short bit
December 19, 2014 at 5:41 pm
bhiggum
I’d sure appreciate some more perspective, here. Hell, right now the two people I think I’m most suspicious of don’t even have any votes, so either I’m crazy or we’re just missing that badly.
December 19, 2014 at 5:42 pm
Inkarnit
Wait really? I thought you were on Annette? Who are you suspecting?
December 19, 2014 at 5:50 pm
bhiggum
I do still think Annette- but I’ve been going back re-reading and re-thinking and I’m really starting to suspect kg and yickit.
December 19, 2014 at 5:53 pm
Inkarnit
Yickit had some strange votes for sure. I don’t really have much opinion on kg because he’s been missing a lot. That could be a tactic however. He seems to be on board with voting TDO though with me so if he’s a wolf that would make my vote for TDO wrong. Or him really smart for voting for another wolf that won’t get majority…
December 19, 2014 at 5:57 pm
bhiggum
kg is a hell of a player. He’s fooled me badly before, and he’s made some crazy strategic moves before that have panned out. I’m really wondering if being absent for an entire day and purposefully taking a strike was one of those moves.
December 19, 2014 at 5:59 pm
Inkarnit
You guys and your history. The more I read the more confused you make me. I think I’ve got it all figured out and then BAM! some more crazy stuff.
December 19, 2014 at 5:42 pm
The Dread Pirate
Ok, just got home.
Here’s my overall thoughts on everyone from most wolfish to least…
Nettie: 3 bandwagons in the last hour where just jumped in without offering anything. I wanted to see what would happen with a vote on punman last night and as soon as TDO placed that second vote, Nettie was there with a third despite not giving any reason in two whole days for suspecting him. She pulled a similar move on uber day one.
Ginge/inkarnit: I think the todahshy kill last night further solidifies my belief that we have multiple newb wolves who fell for the bait just like bhiggum and I did when Beau/KG pulled that same trick on us. Of the two, I rate Ginge a little higher because he’s been so cavalier about just killing another villager without worrying about the consequences and because he seemed to be framing KG for not particular reason. I highly doubt Nettie, Ginge, and inkarnit are all wolves, but I would imagine one of these two is paired with her.
meat: sure seemed like a framing of Novak yesterday with the “wasn’t he the guy who wasn’t able to refresh” comments. TDO and I had discussed the switch from Nettie to Novak beforehand, so it’s not like we were hiding the reason behind our votes. meat, instead, grills yickit all day and then randomly switches with little justification. On the other hand, the dude is always either a wolf or a villager who gets caught up fighting with Kelly,so it would be hard to recognize him as a villager without Kelly around.
bhiggum: his list above implicated basically no one which is strange. He was also the first vote on both uber and Novak. On the one hand, it’s hard to hold any subsequent people piling on against him. On the other hand, it’s a good way for a wolf to hide to be first on someone rather than trying to sneak into a bandwagon or figure out the shifting sands at the last minute. Granted, he then pulled his early vote for Novak before returning, and was the second vote on him in the final build-up.
kg2005: villager KG is normally super-engaged, so him being gone all day yesterday was pretty odd. Otherwise, not much to go on, and he’s doing some really good wolf-hunting today.
TDO: this seems like the same way TDO always plays. TDO is always a villager. I don’t think he’s a wolf who can somehow play exactly the same when he finally isn’t a villager.
Colin: definitely hunting and making good arguments and analysis.* Nothing is tripping up as suspicious here.
punman: I wanted to see what would happen with some pressure on punman yesterday. Nettie voted as soon as a second vote was there. I think that clears punman because Nettie was just trying to find somewhere to hide her vote.
yickit: No way a wolf draws attention to himself at the end of day one like that. I wish he would have pointed that out yesterday. Almost certain villager.
*It pains me to compliment him like this. On the bright side, spooky did call him a dick above.
December 19, 2014 at 6:05 pm
Inkarnit
I don’t know why but reading through all that my takeaway is:
“I’m a wolf. So are yickit, TDO, and Annette. I think I’ve cleverly disguised this.”
December 19, 2014 at 6:10 pm
Inkarnit
For further clarification: I think you are saying that yickit and TDO are the most villagery villagers that ever did village. Draw attention completely away from them. At the same time you’re saying Annette is so wolfy that you can see her teeth so that we get rid of her first and see your analysis was correct. Then you look like the helpful wolf-hunting villager. By the time we track down more wolves, we’re outnumbered and lose.
December 19, 2014 at 6:25 pm
The Dread Pirate
Give me one good reason why yickit could be a wolf?
I don’t have quite the smoking gun to exonerate TDO except that he’s playing exactly the same as always.
December 19, 2014 at 6:27 pm
Inkarnit
I’m not really sure on yickit. I had ginge pinned as the 4th but your post attempting to exonerate yickit drew me to him. That combined with his absence today and his wonky seemingly meaningless votes previously made me think “he’s the 4th!”
December 19, 2014 at 6:18 pm
bhiggum
That would mean our top three vote-getters right now are wolves. This seems unlikely, but I suppose it’s possible. I could see two of the three pretty easily.
December 19, 2014 at 6:19 pm
Inkarnit
That’s a really good point. So we’re wrong on one of them at least. Which? If we’re wrong on DP then I feel like an idiot.
December 19, 2014 at 7:06 pm
bhiggum
I’ve really never been that sure about DP. He’s 5th on my list- after kg, nettie, yickit and punman.
December 19, 2014 at 5:54 pm
TDO
I’m back. Everythings done. Ill be catching up, posting some thoughts and then chilaxing and responding and posting as things go on. Thanks for the patience. Never had to pick up, move, and put together my own christmas present. but it’s nice.
December 19, 2014 at 6:39 pm
Inkarnit
I need to leave work in 20 minutes, then a 20 minute drive home. Then I think we’re getting a babysitter for the kids and spending the night naked so… need to figure out if I’m changing my vote or keeping it on TDO. Would love to hear from you soon TDO.
*just kidding about the naked part… maybe 😉
December 19, 2014 at 6:41 pm
TDO
OK. caught up reading. Here goes.
KG is playing very different to me than he has in the past. I’ve said before he’s hard for me to figure out, but he made a few jabs at me today.
“How’s being a wolf treating you” and then randomly voting for me without cause or reason. At first I took it for rustiness, but a wolf KG with 2 new wolves could make him off his game as usually plays the loner wolf when a wolf.
This basically concludes me to believe KG is a wolf with ginge. The other option of wolf is annette, inkarn or yickit and bhigum, DP, or meat. I’m confident with the oddness of how this game has played out we have 2 newbies that are also wolves.
A few guys have mentioned me as possible wolves, mostly led by karn. The fact is I called out my plan last night. I forced a tie late in the game last night just to get chatter as its been very non existant this game which makes it hard on a village but would benefit newbie wolves.
As others stated I agreed with DP to move my vote because I think a newb vote will out themself with enough discussion (another reason I was trying to stir the pot late).
I called last night that if DP and I were wrong it would put a lot of heat on us, but I did it anyway. Why would I knowingly pull that if I was a wolf.
Finally, you kill me and find out I’m a villager for the infinite time, what do you really gain? I’ve not aligned myself with anyone so it doesn’t give you insight into who could be a solid villager and the guys I’ve called out will be just as wolfy with me a live as with me dead.
I’m ready to throw a vote on kg but i want to discuss more first.
December 19, 2014 at 6:55 pm
The Dread Pirate
I get. Like I said above, I don’t suspect you at all. Our moves don’t make sense as wolves because we were trying to get some chatter going and it worked. It drew out the unexplained third Nettie vote for punman.
December 19, 2014 at 6:46 pm
meat
I’m back but briefly. This week ended pretty poorly in real life.
I know that my vote jump last night seems to be a red flag, but, again, my suspicions were on novak, yickit, and nettie. I unvoted yickit close to the deadline while trying to decide if voting for novak was a wise choice being that he said he wouldn’t be back. When DP and TDO agreed to go after novak I saw that there was an opportunity to allow the mod to coin flip, and felt that that scenario wasn’t beneficial to the village (as stated above). Further, I’m not sure where grey(Colin is coming from, and feel like there is an attempt to meatwagon me on thin principles. DP seems to have gotten onto this bandwagon hard.
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I feel like there has to be two wolves between KG, nettie, and TDO.
KG with the nonvote is my highest suspect at the moment. He hasn’t been around to help too much (and I know that I haven’t been around much today, but when here I have been reading / defending my choices / and now hunting) It’s a perfect KG play to non-vote and slide under the radar buying another day without having to offer anything to later incriminate himself.
Nettie – she’s been on and off bandwagons as pointed out by others. Why didn’t I jump on a nettie vote today? I’m just not sure that she’s not just a new player. (by the way, n00b makes my skin crawl) If she’s really this good at hiding behind the new player schtick the village is fucked. I’m softening, but I’m still suspicious.
TDO has set himself up with a number of quality outs starting with early lists that either draw suspicion to wolves or exonerate his votes. I know that the party line is that he’s never been a wolf before, but that really doesn’t mean anything to me.
The next layer of suspicion I have is ginge, DP, yickit, and bhiggs
ginge has taken some heat early, but he has also disappeared quickly. I feel like he’s hiding out to take the early heat off of himself, and not providing us with anything more to go on later.
DP suddenly has a massive hard on for me after Colin raises some real, and good, questions. I feel like this is the beginning of the meatwagon.
Yickit – dp starts defending him, and he’s dropped on my list as well, but something is still fishy here. His comment that he’s at home and on the computer led to almost no analysis. DP says that he’s almost for certain a villager because no wolf would draw attention blatantly to themselves with a late vote switch. I see that as the perfect opportunity to create an out for the future.
Bhiggs, I dunno. I’m always certain I can read him, but I’m almost always wrong. He’s the first to start the nettietrain today, but has also made some really solid points regarding wolves jumping in to make majorities this afternoon. Not high on my suspect list, but still wary.
Colin, ink, and punman (clawhammer are all more of a mystery to me. I don’t have strong feelings either way, other than to say that pun seems to be doing good investigation, but also has been logging in under two different names which confuses the shit out of me.
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December 19, 2014 at 6:51 pm
meat
Now things are a little more cloudy for me. TDO’s post above makes me think he’s certainly less suspicious.
I have to head out to my client’s house.
vote KG
I feel like he’s the best possible candidate at the moment.
December 19, 2014 at 6:53 pm
meat
I should add that I’ll be on my phone, but I don’t know if I’ll be here near the deadline.
December 19, 2014 at 7:05 pm
kg2005
I’ve been on all day, buddy.
December 19, 2014 at 6:59 pm
bhiggum
I like so much of this it’s scary. I still like a nettie vote, but kg and yickit are way up there on my radar, too. I don’t have a case for anyone else after that- I was thinking punman and DP, but neither of them feel quite right.
December 19, 2014 at 8:10 pm
Colin
sorry you’re having a bummer night. I hope it gets better.
December 19, 2014 at 6:52 pm
meat
vote kg
reply nest fail
December 19, 2014 at 6:56 pm
Inkarnit
We have the potential for a 3 way tie the way these votes are going. That won’t be good. Unless it’s a 3 way wolf-tie!
December 19, 2014 at 6:57 pm
Inkarnit
3 for nettie, 2 for DP, 1 for KG and TDO seems to be leaning towards KG too.
December 19, 2014 at 6:59 pm
yickit
Just finished my turn driving.. Wow a lot to take it.. I like what meat said about KG.
December 19, 2014 at 7:01 pm
TDO
Im shaking my head about I state my thoughts (like every game) and people are actually voting for people I discuss (not like every game). I almost feel like wolves are setting me up. I am confident about kg, but these votes going to him now make me cautious about getting lumped with others i doubt.
December 19, 2014 at 7:02 pm
Inkarnit
You were certainly onto Novak yesterday until I agreed and jumped on. Then you jumped off so that you wouldn’t be implicated. That’s what makes me think you’re a wolf.
December 19, 2014 at 7:04 pm
The Dread Pirate
He made a late vote for Novak that’s drawing him heat. What are you talking about?
December 19, 2014 at 7:07 pm
Inkarnit
Before that he unvoted Novak because he was afraid of being wrong exactly like he’s talking about now regarding kg. He said he was confident about it but didn’t want it to dine back on him. Later he decided Novak made sense once you agreed to vote for him too because it would tie your fates together. He’s either a wolf along with you or implicating you as one quite well.
December 19, 2014 at 7:05 pm
TDO
I can understand how that could implicate me. I jumped off yesterday when you jumped on him the same reason im cautious of going after kg now. seems like wolves, who i think you may be. are trying to side with me, which is not usually how my games go. I usually have to plead my cases with the village to get a few to support me.
December 19, 2014 at 7:12 pm
Inkarnit
I’m definitely not siding with you. I’m convinced you’re a wolf. If not then this just isn’t my game. But now kg is off of you. So I’m alone it seems. Which means you’re safe. Let me figure out a better target and then worry about you tomorrow. Hopefully we catch a different wolf today.
December 19, 2014 at 7:19 pm
kg2005
Why are you convinced TDO is a wolf? Convince me.
December 19, 2014 at 7:24 pm
Inkarnit
Besides just feeling it there’s his actions last night. Everyone he’s targeted have been villagers as well. And I’m driving so can’t be too wordy. It’s fine if you don’t see it. We’ll have more info tomorrow.
December 19, 2014 at 7:30 pm
Inkarnit
Also he has tried to pinpoint the seer multiple times. Seems like it’s been discussed what scenarios should bring the seer forward. Pointing out out to the wolves doesn’t seem prudent. Unless he’s a wolf.
December 19, 2014 at 7:07 pm
kg2005
When have you ever not felt like the wolves were setting you up?
December 19, 2014 at 7:06 pm
spookymilk
We’ve still got three hours to go? Wow, I wouldn’t have guessed that. I’m tired and sick and it feels like I’ve been awake for days.
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nettiebarron 3 (Dread Pirate)
Dread Pirate 2 (nettiebarron)
TDO 2
kg2005 1 (TDO)
bhiggum
Colin (nettiebarron)
gingefringe97 (Dread Pirate)
inkarnit (TDO)
joepunman (nettiebarron)
meat (kg2005)
yickit
December 19, 2014 at 7:08 pm
kg2005
Unvote TDO
Apparently I read something wrong.
December 19, 2014 at 7:09 pm
TDO
I cant wait to read spookys play by play after the game is over. it’s always a fun read.
December 19, 2014 at 7:11 pm
TDO
Are we all comfortable of the seer not coming out and the wolves having a 1 in 7 shot of killing the seer without us getting information from the seer before the death?
December 19, 2014 at 7:13 pm
Inkarnit
My assumption here is that the seer has only gotten one clean look, if that, and therefore is better to remain hidden another day.
December 19, 2014 at 7:13 pm
Inkarnit
Trying to root out the seer is another reason I suspect you, by the way 😛
December 19, 2014 at 7:13 pm
kg2005
If the seer doesn’t have any information to reveal, there’s no point to revealing himself.
December 19, 2014 at 7:18 pm
bhiggum
Well, not unless the seer is about to be lynched.
December 19, 2014 at 7:21 pm
TDO
yeah this is the point I’m making. Definitely not trying to out the seer. I’m just saying are we as a village comfortable with the 1 in 7 odds. Knowing even 1 confirmed villager is better than knowing nothing. I’m ok with waiting another day i just dont want to kick ourselves as I think I know who the seer is.
December 19, 2014 at 7:22 pm
Inkarnit
Unless Annette or DP are the seer I think we’re okay.
December 19, 2014 at 7:25 pm
meat
In which case the wolves eat him and nothing is gained, especially if the village then lynches another villager.
December 19, 2014 at 7:26 pm
kg2005
Except for the fact that we wouldn’t then lynch a confirmed villager.
December 19, 2014 at 8:05 pm
meat
Especially if we lynch another villager ^
December 19, 2014 at 7:26 pm
TDO
Just to clarify kg’s unvote of me doesn’t deter my stance on him.
December 19, 2014 at 7:27 pm
kg2005
Oh? We’re bringing logic into this now?
December 19, 2014 at 7:26 pm
Inkarnit
I’m still wanting to hear from yickit who was supposedly working from home today but has been very… Scarce.
December 19, 2014 at 7:32 pm
TDO
11 left. 6 for majority. nettie has 3. Just throwing out stats out so we can be aware of the parameters we are at currently.
December 19, 2014 at 7:37 pm
TDO
Why has nettie still not explained her bandwaggon votes even though its been brought up a few tiems each day? Why haven’t we pressed nettie more.
December 19, 2014 at 7:38 pm
Inkarnit
I think we’re all convinced she’s a wolf and don’t need more explanation. Pretty sure it’s as simple as that.
December 19, 2014 at 7:42 pm
The Dread Pirate
I’m guessing a fellow wolf told her this morning to stay mostly quiet.
December 19, 2014 at 7:57 pm
nettiebarron
I’m quiet because I am having a shitty, shitty day and am really, really busy.
December 19, 2014 at 8:11 pm
Colin
I’m sorry you’re having a shitty day, Annette. I hope your night starts to get better soon.
December 19, 2014 at 8:18 pm
Colin
maybe this picture of a skydiving cat would help?
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fweknowgifs.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F10%2Fskydiving-cat-gif.gif&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fweknowgifs.com%2Fgif%2Ftag%2Fcat-gif%2F&h=326&w=400&tbnid=3oHPpnC8poPGGM%3A&zoom=1&docid=ronC1IPQc1Od3M&ei=5s2UVMjuB9O2yASB7oKgAw&tbm=isch&client=safari&ved=0CGoQMyg_MD8&iact=rc&uact=3&dur=392&page=4&start=55&ndsp=19
December 19, 2014 at 8:30 pm
nettiebarron
It does, thanks.
December 19, 2014 at 7:56 pm
nettiebarron
Band wagon votes were to save myself. Because I am not a wolf.
December 19, 2014 at 8:04 pm
meat
But that’s what drives my suspicion. Punman did the same thing yesterday towards the end, and, as my cmoment (yikes, dude) suggests, it sounds suspicious. Just sayin’
December 19, 2014 at 7:47 pm
bhiggum
It has been pretty calm in here all afternoon. Quite a few posts, not much for votes. I guess I’m about ready to put my vote back on nettie, if there’s no objections?
December 19, 2014 at 7:49 pm
TDO
Im split between KG and Nettie and ok with voting either way. My preference is to get a known wolf tonight. If we are more confident nettie is the wolf lets do it. I think KG is a wolf, but if I’m wrong I know I’m dead tommorrow and rightfully should be if my senses are off that much.
December 19, 2014 at 8:06 pm
nettiebarron
You’re not getting a known wolf by lynching me.
December 19, 2014 at 8:08 pm
Colin
I’m back and reading. probably won’t last until 9, but I’ll try to hang.
December 19, 2014 at 8:11 pm
spookymilk
A little under two hours remain. Can everyone look at their own vote? My computer was being a wang for a while and I want to make sure I didn’t miss anything.
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nettiebarron 3 (Dread Pirate)
Dread Pirate 2 (nettiebarron)
TDO 2
kg2005 1 (TDO)
bhiggum
Colin (nettiebarron)
gingefringe97 (Dread Pirate)
inkarnit (TDO)
joepunman (nettiebarron)
meat (kg2005)
yickit
December 19, 2014 at 8:14 pm
Colin
I’m pretty sure they stopped making Wang’s in the early 90’s. Get a Gateway and get with the program.
December 19, 2014 at 8:15 pm
TDO
kg unvoted me as also evident by his voting without an unvote below. otherwise looks good.
December 19, 2014 at 8:13 pm
kg2005
So, as it is Friday night, I have friends coming soon. I will not be returning. If you’ve played with me before, you would know that I couldn’t disappear like that if I was a wolf. I’m not confident about anyone right now, but we all know I need to put a vote down.
Vote nettiebarron
I have this nagging feeling that I’m wrong. Sigh.
December 19, 2014 at 8:14 pm
yickit
I dunno meat’s point seem to be swaying me at the moment
vote kg2005
December 19, 2014 at 8:16 pm
TDO
meat swaying. yeah i went there.
December 19, 2014 at 8:17 pm
kg2005
Meat’s point swaying.
December 19, 2014 at 8:24 pm
meat
That’s what she said /zing!
December 19, 2014 at 8:49 pm
Inkarnit
Hehe
December 19, 2014 at 8:19 pm
Colin
my daughter’s up already. I’ll be back in a little bit. GD I’m tired of this.
December 19, 2014 at 8:20 pm
TDO
after reading meat’s post again I’m all but set for a kg vote. With what I said before, meat brings up good points about the no vote for 2 days which is very unlike kg and him above saying he won’t be on and not being decisive with his vote tells me he’s either not in the game, or he’s doing it on purpose and I think its on purpose. This is on top of what I’ve said already too.
December 19, 2014 at 8:29 pm
Inkarnit
I’ll try to check in again before the deadline but may not be able. My vote is in even though no one else sees it. We’ll see what tomorrow brings.
December 19, 2014 at 8:51 pm
The Dread Pirate
Can someone explain the case against kg to me beyond him not being around yesterday?
December 19, 2014 at 9:05 pm
TDO
meat mentioned this earlier:
KG with the nonvote is my highest suspect at the moment. He hasn’t been around to help too much (and I know that I haven’t been around much today, but when here I have been reading / defending my choices / and now hunting) It’s a perfect KG play to non-vote and slide under the radar buying another day without having to offer anything to later incriminate himself.
then he makes a few shots at me like how’s it feel being a wolf, then voting for me out of the blue with no reason and when i call him on it he just removes the vote without reason again. To me he’s jsut being completely not KG. and villager KG is a huge asset so if he’s not helping he could be handcuffed with newb wolves and is playing this way.
I’m down for a nettie or kg vote.
December 19, 2014 at 9:06 pm
TDO
KG no voted day 1 and 2. Today he’s been just pot shotting and not offering anything. and spooky invoked a mod kill if he no voted again.
December 19, 2014 at 9:10 pm
The Dread Pirate
He didn’t vote day one?
December 19, 2014 at 9:14 pm
yickit
I think he meant the vote didn’t matter on day one
December 19, 2014 at 8:51 pm
bhiggum
Alright, guess I’ll do it. I would like to be right once this game-
vote- nettiebarron
December 19, 2014 at 8:58 pm
nettiebarron
This won’t help that.
December 19, 2014 at 9:09 pm
TDO
vote update
nettiebarron 5 (Dread Pirate)
Dread Pirate 2 (nettiebarron)
kg2005 2 (nettiebarron)
TDO 1
bhiggum (nettiebarron)
Colin (nettiebarron)
gingefringe97 (Dread Pirate)
inkarnit (TDO)
joepunman (nettiebarron)
meat (kg2005)
yickit (kg2005)
December 19, 2014 at 9:10 pm
TDO
we are one vote away from majority. We need to be careful.
December 19, 2014 at 9:15 pm
TDO
So everyone has a vote in but me. I could end the night now, with a vote to nettie who i consider a wolf, not sure I want to do that yet though. It’s her or KG for me.
December 19, 2014 at 9:16 pm
Inkarnit
Starting to think annette seems too convenient. I dunno.
December 19, 2014 at 9:16 pm
TDO
By the way I’m ok with playing over teh weekend or holding off til Monday.
December 19, 2014 at 9:19 pm
bhiggum
I’m going to be even less available this weekend than I’ve been most of the day- I’d probably rather wait until Monday.
December 19, 2014 at 9:18 pm
TDO
Im going to put the final nail in nettie unless someone wants to chat in the next 14 minutes.
December 19, 2014 at 9:19 pm
bhiggum
I’m feeling better about this. If nettie was a villager, I’d have to think a wolf would have stepped up and put that last vote on her by now.
December 19, 2014 at 9:21 pm
spookymilk
It sounds like Monday is what has to happen. I’m cool either way, I guess, but if we’re only going to have half or even two-thirds of the people on the weekend, that’s a problem.
Remember, even if a majority is reached, NIGHT will fall at 9. Everyone but the lynched person can talk until then.
December 19, 2014 at 9:22 pm
Colin
ok back and catching up – not a lot to read as I was trying to keep up by phone.
I’m not against looking at KG tomorrow, but I don’t think a vote in that direction tonight is helpful.
December 19, 2014 at 9:34 pm
bhiggum
I’m looking at KG and yickit. Not that there’s a lot to go through, but those are my top two.
Otherwise, I suppose TDO, punman and DP would round out the list.
December 19, 2014 at 9:39 pm
Colin
I’ve read KG’s game, and Yickit’s game a couple of times. Yick stood out to me as a wolf all day one and two, but today his responses have been pretty good. KG looks like a wolf wether he is one or not, so I’d have to see something that really stood out to vote him.
December 19, 2014 at 9:46 pm
TDO
vote nettie
I’m possibly feeling bleh, so I’m going to go ahead and put my vote in and sign off for the night. Any questions we can talk next “day”.
I’m a deadman if this vote is wrong. But sometimes a gorilla gotta do what a gorilla gotta do.
December 19, 2014 at 9:48 pm
spookymilk
nettiebarron has been hauled off to jail and cannot talk anymore. You can all talk in the last 13 minutes if you want (and you might as well, because we’ll be gone until Monday morning). I’ll put up the result at that time.
December 19, 2014 at 9:48 pm
Inkarnit
There it is. Majority. TDO with the final nail. I hope she’s a wolf!
December 19, 2014 at 9:49 pm
Inkarnit
So who got away with no votes?
December 19, 2014 at 9:50 pm
Inkarnit
Oh good everyone voted. Sweet.
December 19, 2014 at 9:59 pm
spookymilk
*** IT IS NIGHT***
Not that anyone was talking.
nettiebarron 6 (Dread Pirate)
Dread Pirate 2 (nettiebarron)
kg2005 2 (nettiebarron)
TDO 1 (nettiebarron)
bhiggum (nettiebarron)
Colin (nettiebarron)
gingefringe97 (Dread Pirate)
inkarnit (TDO)
joepunman (nettiebarron)
meat (kg2005)
yickit (kg2005)
December 19, 2014 at 10:08 pm
spookymilk
Ah, now it’s time for the parade. The rednecks are seemingly ignoring the wolf menace in favor of the bright, pretty lights in front of them. Floats sputter by adorned with the Confederate flag and platinum blonde beauty queens with disgusting, orange skin.
Elsewhere, though, Annette was still mourning the loss of her beloved todahshy, spending some time drinking her problems away on an abandoned bus. Suddenly, a crowd of hoodlums entered the bus and crept up on her. She fumbled for her phone, but it was dead.
“As you will be soon, nettiebarr,” one dingus said to her, apparently reading my narration.
“And furthermore,” said another, “we need those eyes of yours. They’re too dangerous.”
Indeed, the wolf ripped her eyes from their sockets and left her in a pool of blood and hair. Keeping with the events of the previous few hours, none of the other hoodlums on the bus noticed the wolf.
Yep. You killed the seer, village. Jesus.
Wolves, go ahead. We’ll reconvene Monday morning to keep this slaughter rolling.