I doubt many of you are up, but I am, so here’s your early post.
“Wow,” spookymilk said into the phone, drunkenly. “This isn’t the beatdown that the wolves suffered the first time they visited the speakeasy.”
“It’s because I’m not there,” replied DK. Damn, wouldn’t it be handy if he were around?
buxtonlovah and kg2005 continued to twerk, desperate to impress some buxom wenches in attendance. Unfortunately, it was 1931 and twerking wouldn’t be hip for 82 years or so. nettiebarron played solitaire strip poker, where everyone wins! nibbish rounded out the cast, because I’m almost positive I haven’t mentioned him yet.
In a dark corner, the Dread Pirate coolly puffed on a cigarette and displayed a rugged apathy with what was happening, as was the manner of the time. Sadly, this concentrated coolness was of no help once the wolves saw him in the corner, attempting to blend in.
Ohhhhhh, villagers. Nothing comes easy.
Guy Patterson (day 1, villager, welcomed poorly)
todahshy (night 1, Angel Face, wasn’t wearing green)
beezypoof (day 2, villager, apathetically asphyxiated)
The Dread Pirate (night 2, Green Eyes, too cool for school)
buxtonlovah
Colin
daneekasghost
Inkarnit
joepunman
Kg2005
MelissaD
nettiebarron
Nibbish
TDO
Zee German
Night falls at 9pm Central, as usual. I expect to be around most of today.
Casa de Leche 
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March 18, 2015 at 8:05 am
todahshy
Lawl
March 18, 2015 at 8:06 am
TDO
wtf. At this point we might as well not drink anymore.
March 18, 2015 at 8:07 am
TDO
*shouldn’t
March 18, 2015 at 8:14 am
nettiebarron
Well, hell. He was going to be my prime suspect today.
March 18, 2015 at 8:23 am
Colin
yeah he was on my list after his comments last night.
March 18, 2015 at 8:25 am
Colin
DG:
Last night you voted me with this post at 8:49 CDT:
this is way out of character for you. can you explain?
March 18, 2015 at 8:26 am
Colin
I mean it’s weird that you would put a vote on someone that clearly isn’t going to get voted out, given the time of day, and put an oddly out-of-character, illogical reason behind it. that just plain stinks of wolf play.
March 18, 2015 at 8:30 am
daneekasghost
illogical reason
you managed to implicate most of the people in the game in one comment that was based on the idea that the wolves would all together pile on a vote on day 2 when the only person in real danger was beezy.
That stuck out to me, and I wasn’t reading everything due to birthday stuff going on.
Was it the best vote for the situation? maybe not. But any vote I made popping in like I did was going to look weird.
March 18, 2015 at 8:41 am
Colin
right, you can word it any way you want, but saying I’m implicating everyone when my post is stating “here’s a way we can categorize and analyze the voting” is illogical, which is out of character for you.
March 18, 2015 at 8:42 am
daneekasghost
Whatever you think of my post, your idea that the wolves would all jump on a day 2 vote is the most illogical thing in this discussion.
March 18, 2015 at 9:06 am
Colin
right, I don’t think there would have been a pile-on, but the kill was right there waiting to happen, and it wasn’t happening. There is significance in who was voting and who wasn’t. Those who weren’t voting beezy should be looked at because they could be wolves hesitating on the kill to avoid suspicion. those who were should be looked at because there may have been all 3 wolves in that vote already. All of this has significance and could be used while parsing the first two days.
again, you’re misdirecting the conversation . you’re digging your hole deeper with every post, man.
March 18, 2015 at 10:07 am
daneekasghost
I’m directing the conversation toward my suspicion of you. I can understand why you don’t like that.
March 18, 2015 at 10:28 am
Colin
well, I’m glad that admit to redirecting. I don’t care if you’re suspicious of me, because I’m a villager. you obviously care that I’m suspicious of you, because you’re a wolf. right?
March 18, 2015 at 10:40 am
daneekasghost
You asked me a question and I responded to it.
March 18, 2015 at 8:27 am
daneekasghost
Once again I’ll be scarce in the morning (classes to teach), but I should be much more available this afternoon.
The only drink that affects anything is the silence drink at this point. Sucks for the neutral that the drinks became irrelevant so quickly.
March 18, 2015 at 8:28 am
joepunman
Well, the real loser is the neutral, who can’t win now because no one else will accept drinks.
March 18, 2015 at 8:30 am
TDO
The neutral and silencer are the only losers. The wolf seer is pointless at this juncture unless trying to find the neutral. But knowing that person can’t win since no one is going to drink it’s pointless anyway.
March 18, 2015 at 8:30 am
Zee German
Perhaps they could kindly out themselves? If they help us out…maybe we’d be willing to accept some drinks if we kill a couple wolves first?
March 18, 2015 at 8:37 am
TDO
Might be a good idea, someone offers to drink the drink in exchange for his identitiy
March 18, 2015 at 8:30 am
Colin
yeah, so the neutral might as well come out to help the village, right?
March 18, 2015 at 8:40 am
daneekasghost
Neutral cannot claim their role.
March 18, 2015 at 8:29 am
Colin
So, things we have to go on so far:
1) Beezy’s interactions -who stayed away from her and who engaged. who was just giving the appearance of going after her etc. given the amount of interaction she’s had with everyone, she should lead us to at least one of the wolves.
1) Parsing will’s posts to see if he gave us any information
6) ummmmmmmm
March 18, 2015 at 8:31 am
joepunman
So, before the son of Wolf comes in to question my moves last night, I’ll defend my late vote. I said it yesterday that I wasn’t getting anywhere with my vote on Melissa, no one was joining me. I went to TDO because in my fast skimming, I saw a lot of bolded TDOs. He was my second choice, so I voted for him. I looked at the end and I may have been the only vote on him, so oh well.
For future reference, I’ll probably be scarce today and tonight as well.
March 18, 2015 at 8:34 am
Zee German
My vote was on him, but as he was silenced on day one, I later thought it a poor choice on my part. But that could totally have been a wolf move, too.
March 18, 2015 at 8:35 am
TDO
That’s a flimsy excuse given there was a vote update 4 minutes before you’re vote switich showing only 1 vote on me. And now you’re saying you’ll be scarce the rest of today?
That’s a lot more wolfy than whatever you think you got on me.
March 18, 2015 at 8:33 am
TDO
There was a lot of late movement last night. There has to be something in that.
Melissa why did you vote switch so late in the evening?
Joe, you went off Melissa and on to me, you said you were getting nowhere with Melissa but you weren’t going to get much traction against me that late , so why the change?.
KG, were you truly silenced yesterday? If so, why did you drink after deciding you were already peeked the day before and had turned down a drink already on this day? Also why are you being offered so many drinks?
March 18, 2015 at 8:49 am
joepunman
I was doing a lot of skimming. I didn’t get to the computer until 10 to 9, and then I was trying to catch up, but not reading closely. I thought you had more votes than you did. I didn’t like voting Beezy, so I was aiming for someone with enough votes to possibly overtake her. I could’ve gone you or Inkarnit. Turns out Inkarnit would’ve got closer to Beezy, but still not enough.
I think it should be noted that I didn’t pile on Beezy, and she turned out to be a villager. It would look a lot more wolfy if I piled onto her.
March 18, 2015 at 9:56 am
MelissaDiamondPhillips
I was being wantonly passive-aggressive. Beezy was accusing me of revenge voting from Survivor, and then working on making people feel guilty for voting for her this time around, so I unvoted her. I had even considering not voting at all, I was so fed up. But then I thought that would look even more petty, so…you know.
March 18, 2015 at 8:36 am
TDO
I never saw where ZG said he was peeked but mental noted DP stated ZG had said so twice yesterday. Was this DP’s way of saying he peeked ZG? If so is this DP saying ZG is clean?
March 18, 2015 at 8:58 am
Zee German
Brooks posted a drinks update earlier in the day, then I copied it and added myself after taking the drink.
March 18, 2015 at 8:37 am
spookymilk
The neutral is not allowed to role claim.
March 18, 2015 at 8:38 am
TDO
oh yeah lol. So who WANTS to claim they are not the neutral 😉 Or is that bending the rules?
March 18, 2015 at 8:49 am
spookymilk
Anyone’s free to claim they are not the neutral.
March 18, 2015 at 9:03 am
Colin
Here’s where I stand this morning:
buxtonlovah: no idea, barely around. could be wolf newb hiding. Buxton, please be active today.
daneekasghost – either neutral or a wolf or just having a bad game. I get that you’re busy, and I respect that, DG – I understand the work/dad dynamic. but, your late vote on me with really poor reasoning and then an even weaker defense this morning really stands out.
Inkarnit – still on the fence between villager / wolf. leaning more wolf right now but I’m going to re-read the first two days this morning and see what I can find.
joepunman – I think wolf. The most recent reason is his preemptory defense of his late night vote switch. weird?
Kg2005 – not sure. the claiming of drinks, for him, is kinda weird. why do that unless trying to make him look like a villager?
MelissaD – seems clean to me at this point. I’ll be focusing on her and Joe and Karn and nettie when I read today.
nettiebarron – also seems clean at this point.
Nibbish – wolf. way too absent and non-committal for his nibs. also seems to be trying to buddy up to me, which he doesn’t do unless he’s a wolf.
TDO – looks clean to me at this point.
Zee German – looks clean to me at this point.
March 18, 2015 at 9:18 am
TDO
I have the same concern about KG at this point as you.
March 18, 2015 at 10:17 am
daneekasghost
That’s a lot of wolves.
March 18, 2015 at 9:33 am
TDO
Joe-just doesn’t have much substance to his late vote.
DG-see Joe’s comments
KG-He’s a long time player, but that’s very weird he got so many drinks to start the game.
Karn-I’ve said wolf, and I’m not swawyed still from that, he was easy to buddy buddy with me on beezy and just doesn’t seem very committed to helping.
As for me, if you think I’m a wolf please go back and read some of my stuff yesterday and this morning. I’ve made some gaffes (going hard at beezy most of the day) and misinterpreting something Collin said, but overall i think i’ve provided some of the best analysis this game compared to my past games.
March 18, 2015 at 9:45 am
TDO
Post counts today
buxtonlovah -0
Colin -8
daneekasghost -3
Inkarnit -0
joepunman -3
Kg2005 -0
MelissaD -0
nettiebarron -1
Nibbish -0
TDO -10
Zee German -3
I post this because if we cant get a comfortable decision on who to lynch we need to strongly think about going after silent players. It’s getting out of hand and I don’t want our fate in not having anything on certain players when the late game comes.
March 18, 2015 at 9:48 am
Inkarnit
I’m getting ready for work. Will touch base soon.
March 18, 2015 at 9:51 am
nettiebarron
I’m on the west coast so it’s still pretty early for me.
March 18, 2015 at 9:50 am
nettiebarron
All Gs seem off in this game so far. DG and KG especially. I’m still pretty set on the Punman and Inkarnate, but certainly am open to discussion.
March 18, 2015 at 9:50 am
joepunman
How do you copy a link to a comment? There’s a pair of comments from yesterday that look awfully suspicous
TDO @ 4:12 – clarifying his comment about sending him a drink and he’ll “shoot it down”. Saying that he meant that he’ll drink it down like a shot.
Inkarnit @ 4:17 – Thanks TDO for clarifying, then tells Green Eyes to send this man a drink.
This all off TDO’s original comment around 3-ish.
Now Green Eyes is dead. If Green Eyes listened, then we have two great suspects right there.
March 18, 2015 at 9:53 am
Inkarnit
I’m not sure I understand your allegations in any way.
March 18, 2015 at 9:54 am
TDO
If you click on the date/time it will change the url to the link (or you can right click etc)
I know what you are talking about, and I did mean it as drink it down. Also, I was given a drink day 1 to be silenced. You are not told who gives you the drink, so the thought that green eyes offering me a drink (which I never did get any offers yesterday) wouldn’t tell me who green eyes was.
This makes me think you are a wolf moreso as everyone is basically understanding just because you get a drink you still have no idea who sent it. It’s just how it works and I’m not the only one who explained that.
KG said the same thing and there was discussion about not knowing who sends you what yesterday too.
March 18, 2015 at 9:59 am
joepunman
Crappity crap, you’re right, I forgot that was the case. Damn, I thought I finally had a good case. Strike my deal below then.
March 18, 2015 at 10:06 am
joepunman
Like this, excellent.
March 18, 2015 at 9:54 am
joepunman
Tell ya what, I’ll go along with this, lynch me today, once you see that I’m a villager, let’s say we go after TDO and Inkarnit. I have a feeling we’ll only have 1 wolf left at that point.
March 18, 2015 at 9:56 am
TDO
Only way that would work is if you and karn are wolves, which is what i’ve stated earlier is my gut feeling.
I’m a villager, but If I get lynched. PLEASE look at the lists I’ve given.
March 18, 2015 at 9:55 am
TDO
vote joe
Between
and
I think Joe’s scrambling.
March 18, 2015 at 10:01 am
Colin
Agreed. I also think it’s time to start weeding out the silent newbs. at this point they are more of a liability that anything. plus, there’s a good chance that there’s a wolf in there.
I’m thinking either Joe, DG, or Buxton today. Karn still looks wolfy to me but I’d rather see how he does today and tomorrow, given how I always think he looks wolfy.
March 18, 2015 at 10:04 am
TDO
I agree, at least with Karn he’s been very vocal and how things unfold will provide a trail to him.
I’d go buxton before DG but am open to forcing any silent players hand. Not like we have to worry about the seer now 😦
March 18, 2015 at 10:06 am
daneekasghost
Am I a silent newb?
March 18, 2015 at 10:31 am
Colin
you’re just making it worse, man.
March 18, 2015 at 10:46 am
daneekasghost
It’s what I do.
March 18, 2015 at 9:56 am
Inkarnit
Okay Joe. I’ll call your bluff.
vote Joe
March 18, 2015 at 9:59 am
joepunman
Dangit, I said scratch that deal, ixnay, ixnay.
March 18, 2015 at 10:05 am
TDO
Why?
March 18, 2015 at 10:04 am
joepunman
I’m feeling better about TDO, but still not sure about Inkarnit (I think he’s hopping on TDO’s train). I’m still skeptical about Melissa after her advocation of imbibing yesterday and her fight with beezy.
March 18, 2015 at 10:14 am
Inkarnit
I’m not hopping on anyone’s train. You directly challenged me and TDO to eliminate you because you think we’re wolves. After beezy just used the “vote for me; I’m a villager” defense yesterday. I called your bluff. TDO has nothing to do with it and until I saw he voted for you immediately had me thinking he’s a wolf. Not sure which of you is now but damned if one of you aren’t.
March 18, 2015 at 10:21 am
TDO
Hey now. I posted my vote for him as he was saying he’d vote for himself. I had no idea he was going to do that nor would it change my vote.
I don’t like being grouped with you either but if you are going to say you didn’t see my post (1 minute before yours) then it’s logical (and true) I didn’t see Joe’s post about voting for himself which was also 1 minute before my post.
March 18, 2015 at 10:26 am
Inkarnit
I think you misunderstood what I said. I thought you were a wolf this morning. You being quick to vote Joe, who I also think is a wolf, makes me doubt. One of you must be innocent.
March 18, 2015 at 10:36 am
TDO
Well I definitely am a villager. Joe might be too, but right now I think the evidence is mostly damming against him, thus my vote.
March 18, 2015 at 10:05 am
daneekasghost
Read this post.
Those who weren’t voting beezy should be looked at
…
those who were should be looked at
This is the opposite of helpful wolf-hunting. Colin is saying all the people need to be looked at.
It sounds like analysis, but it pushes nothing forward.
March 18, 2015 at 10:32 am
Colin
um, close but not at all. I already provided my thoughts on how using those separate categories could help analyze the voting. The fact that you’re trying to drum up this case against me is very obvious wolf play.
March 18, 2015 at 10:07 am
joepunman
Colin vs. DG
Me vs. Inkarnit
Melissa vs. Beezy
Just some thoughts on conflicts that might lead to wolves.
March 18, 2015 at 10:20 am
Inkarnit
I wasn’t aware we had a conflict until this morning. Prior to today you’ve been largely absent and I’ve been trying to get you engaged. But sounds good!
March 18, 2015 at 10:07 am
TDO
I think we also need to go back and look at who thought it was good for people to claim when they were “peeked”. The post that made me unvote Beezy is pretty on point, and I feel stupid not seeing it before.
Basically if someone says they were peeked and the wolves know they didn’t peek that person it’s someone the seer peeked which then means the person peeked isn’t the seer. Which narrows the list down for the wolves of who the seer is.
March 18, 2015 at 10:39 am
Inkarnit
Did you find anything about this? I just got to the office and haven’t dug into it yet.
March 18, 2015 at 10:15 am
nibbish
Alright, I’m here. In and out, though, as I’ve got the unfortunate responsibility of training in a new employee pretty much all day today.
As for Colin’s above concerns, I was driving all day yesterday, and I put my vote on the person who I thought was wolfiest at the time. I don’t know what more o could have done.
I’ll be around a lot more this evening. I promise.
March 18, 2015 at 10:23 am
Inkarnit
Yeah you voted for me and left it all day. Go back and read through yesterday and see where you land now. Your absence is uncharacteristic regardless of the validity of your excuse. You’re rising on my list.
March 18, 2015 at 10:25 am
nibbish
Your absence is uncharacteristic regardless of the validity of your excuse.
Ha, what? That doesn’t even make sense. I was afk. I know that people are going to want to read more into that, but there’s nothing there. I can show you my ticket stubs, if you like.
March 18, 2015 at 10:27 am
Inkarnit
I’m saying I believe you, but I still think it makes you suspect. I’m not ready to Lynch you right now but I’m watching you.
March 18, 2015 at 10:28 am
nibbish
Does everyone see this? How are we not seeing this as wolfy?
March 18, 2015 at 10:29 am
Inkarnit
Lol good try.
March 18, 2015 at 10:31 am
nettiebarron
He ALWAYS looks wolfy.
March 18, 2015 at 10:33 am
nibbish
Yeah, but sometimes, he’s a wolf.
March 18, 2015 at 10:34 am
Inkarnit
One time!
March 18, 2015 at 10:34 am
Colin
I see it. my list earlier was to get people to talk, and I feel ok with your response.
March 18, 2015 at 11:33 am
MelissaDiamondPhillips
Yeah, this is not helping your cause, Inkarnit.
March 18, 2015 at 11:45 am
Inkarnit
Really Melissa? What have you contributed other than a jello fight with beezy?
March 18, 2015 at 11:46 am
MelissaDiamondPhillips
You might want to re-read Day 2 if you’re not sure.
March 18, 2015 at 10:30 am
daneekasghost
That doesn’t even make sense.
It really doesn’t. I’m trying to figure out what it means, and I’ve got nothing.
March 18, 2015 at 10:34 am
Inkarnit
You are both reading too much into this. Bottom line is I’m unsure on nibbish because I don’t have much to go on. I want him to catch up on everything from yesterday and see if I’m still where his suspicions lie. Not sure why this is hard to grasp.
March 18, 2015 at 10:44 am
daneekasghost
But that’s not what you said. You said nibbish was rising on your list, and that his absence makes him suspect.
But then you also said that you believe his reason for absence. Which would mean that his absence has nothing to do with the game, right? So you’re putting forward two contradictory reasonings, and that’s weird.
March 18, 2015 at 10:51 am
Inkarnit
He is rising on my list, but not until I can see more. How he responds to yesterday’s analysis will be a big part of it.
March 18, 2015 at 10:25 am
daneekasghost
I see a couple people asking questions about kg. I don’t see any way that he’s a wolf here.
He accepted multiple drinks on day 1, which is dangerous if he’s a wolf. He was peeked by a seer. KG was at the absolute bottom of Pirate’s list yesterday.
The simplest explanation is that DP peeked kg and saw he was clean.
March 18, 2015 at 10:28 am
Inkarnit
Valid points, but beezy’s concern yesterday was that he was lying in order to draw out the seer. Unfortunately, we now have no way to verify anything.
March 18, 2015 at 10:33 am
daneekasghost
And I’m saying that beezy was wrong, because the person that we now know to be the seer listed one of the people that we know to be peeked as his most likely villager.
If kg is lying about accepting drinks, then someone should provide some evidence (like saying that it was them who accepted drinks). The fact that no one came forward yesterday and no one has done so today means kg is telling the truth. There is no reason to sit on that information now.
We do have a way of verifying things. It’s logic.
March 18, 2015 at 10:35 am
Inkarnit
I see what you’re saying now.
March 18, 2015 at 10:39 am
TDO
Good stuff, I’d have to to KG saying he was peeked and the seer putting him last would mean the seer peeked him. Which also may explain how the wolves determined the seer. By knowing they didn’t peek KG and then see he’s at the bottom of someone’s list.
I’m still nervous about his lack of activity since morning yesterday though. I’m apt to believe he’s a villager now.
March 18, 2015 at 10:35 am
nibbish
be back in a bit.
March 18, 2015 at 10:39 am
joepunman
Inkarnit has been jumping on my absences, and is now jumping on Nibbish. He questions DG above. He jumped on me with TDO (granted, I dared them too)
He can’t play the clueless newbie anymore, so he’s going into attack mode, trying to lead the charge against anyone he can.
There’s hunting, and then there’s preying.
Vote Inkarnit
March 18, 2015 at 10:40 am
TDO
I agree with you, problem is I think you’re both wolves
March 18, 2015 at 10:49 am
Inkarnit
I’m definitely not playing clueless newbie. I led the charge on beezy yesterday. I totally own that. I was wrong. So sue me. We’ve all been wrong so far. If I was a wolf, why would I lead the charge? As she said yesterday, I was going to be suspect after her death if she was a villager. So suspect me. But you don’t fool me joe.
March 18, 2015 at 11:04 am
joepunman
I’m not saying you’re playing the clueless newbie in this game, but you played it to perfection in your first game. I’m saying you can’t do that this time, you’re a veteran now.
March 18, 2015 at 11:10 am
Inkarnit
I’d hardly call myself a veteran but yeah. Not clueless either. I’ve got a clue at least.
March 18, 2015 at 11:38 am
MelissaDiamondPhillips
I’ll call you clueless. 😉
March 18, 2015 at 11:40 am
spookymilk
I have been going crazy waiting for someone to make this crack.
March 18, 2015 at 11:44 am
Inkarnit
Humbug
March 18, 2015 at 10:47 am
Inkarnit
Now that I’m at the office, here’s my take:
buxtonlovah – newb… but newb what? newb absentee… worth lynching regardless of his role
Colin – I still see a lot of parallels to his previous wolf game and am really suspicious but he seems to be doing a lot of wolf hunting too… not sure where I stand here
daneekasghost – very uncharacteristically absent yesterday to the point where we thought he was silenced… him and nibbish had real life things to attend to which gives somewhat of a pass. He is providing clear logic this morning about KG’s innocence, however, which tends to lean more villagery.
joepunman – been mostly absent throughout, with tiny snippets thrown in to appear engaged. I constantly tried to call him on his inaction to get him involved without outright calling him a wolf, and this morning he looks more wolfy than ever with that earlier exchange and his challenge to lynch him. I think he’s a wolf and I’m calling his bluff for now.
Kg2005 – either went all in with a lie from day 1 about a seer peek or actually got peeked. Being on the bottom of DP’s list yesterday, as DG pointed out, tends to lean towards the latter. I think he’s clean.
MelissaD – seems to be playing both sides of the field… I think beezy might have been right about her being the neutral. If she’s not the neutral, she could be a wolf.
nettiebarron – not much to go on… all she’s said from day one is that she can see me as the wolf. Has had late votes both nights. Wolf trying not to screw up?
Nibbish – also uncharacteristically absent as mentioned above, but the most concerning is that he just jumped on the Inkarnit bandwagon and stuck there since. I’m waiting to see more of him to make a determination.
TDO – might be a wolf… Either the wolves didn’t silence one of their own at all throughout this game (and won’t now that no one will accept a drink) or they silenced the perennial villager first to let him get his bearings before screwing the pooch. I was firmly planted on him being a wolf after beezy ended up villager, but his quick vote on Joe has me questioning. Either joe or TDO is a wolf, but not both. Or they are playing it off each other REALLY well.
Zee German – I think he’s a villager. But where you at today?
March 18, 2015 at 11:02 am
Inkarnit
If I had to rank the top 4 (wolves + neutral) it would be joepunman, TDO, nettiebarron, Melissa
My next group of suspects is buxtonlovah, Colin, and nibbish
Most villagery group, not high on the list are the G’s… KG, DG, ZG… strange how that worked out.
Reading back through my own post clarified my positioning for me.
March 18, 2015 at 11:12 am
TDO
You’re reasoning behind me being a wolf is why they would silence me on day one, which maybe is how you know the logic used. The questionable has to be a wolf sometime player is silenced which would make it look like it was done so i dont get wolf jitters.
I was hard on beezy, I admit that, I also gave my reason for the late unvote which I still think we need to look at. Whomever thought it was good to acknowledge we tell each other we were peeked probably led to DP’s demise.
March 18, 2015 at 11:28 am
Inkarnit
I just figure that the wolves are sure to silence one of their own at some point. If we look backward, no one was silenced on day 2. This indicates that whoever was offered the Quiet Sunday rejected it. This means it wasn’t a wolf. Then we go back to day 1 and there’s the silent TDO. Could they have been planning to silence one of their own later? I don’t know. Seems risky as the field is narrowed. If I was a wolf, I’d silence another wolf on day 1 or 2.
March 18, 2015 at 11:17 am
buxtonlovah
just a absentee newb with a few minutes to spare rather than my hours to spare like i had hoped. lynch me if you want, but it’ll be more of a waste lynching another villager then just a quieter one.
my top wolf candidates right now are tdo (the whole beezy scene yesterday left a sour taste), Germany (pops in at opportune moments), karn (just cuz everyone seems to think it) and punman…although the last two i have only an inkling. Melissa i think maybe was playing netural. thought she was teasing about drinks yesterday how she’d like to talk silly…just cover i thought.
March 18, 2015 at 11:18 am
Inkarnit
See, more of this is what we are looking for.
March 18, 2015 at 11:21 am
buxtonlovah
yah yah i got it. hope for more time in at least the next couple hours.
March 18, 2015 at 10:47 am
nettiebarron
Vote Inkarnit Because I want him to act like bacon again. It’s fun.
March 18, 2015 at 10:48 am
Inkarnit
sizzle sizzle, flop flop
March 18, 2015 at 10:57 am
kg2005
Sorry guys, work has picked up in the last couple of days and I haven’t been able to tear myself away to get back to Werewolf. Then last night I went to a friends house for a traditional Irish dinner (and Guinness!). I’m just about done with my release so I should be able to get on and caught up this afternoon.
March 18, 2015 at 11:14 am
TDO
Can’t wait to hear your analysis. You’re always a good late game player and since I think we are comfortable with you being a villager it will be nice to hear what you have to say.
March 18, 2015 at 11:15 am
Inkarnit
Agreed. Really interested for you to come in with the solution here.
March 18, 2015 at 11:16 am
spookymilk
Alright, wienerheads (what is with me and that word?). I’m digging the whole bartender gimmick and am almost thinking we’ll run another soon. Yes, it kind of loses something when one side loses the first two bartenders, but that’s Werewolf. If you have any ideas or fixes, let me know, and if you want to just move on to a new idea, let me know that, too. I’d probably change the neutral (it’s awkward to put a character into a role they can’t claim). Novak had a good idea for a neutral that would fit really well into the game – a “Rex Banner” constable whose sole mission was to ferret out bartenders.
March 18, 2015 at 11:19 am
Inkarnit
Maybe you just like weiners?
March 18, 2015 at 11:21 am
spookymilk
There was one day in Hero Town where DG and I had to pretend to be lovers all day long.
Yeah…pretend
March 18, 2015 at 12:34 pm
nettiebarron
I’m definitely going back to read that one.
March 18, 2015 at 11:21 am
buxtonlovah
all beef wieners? is that related to beef dongles somehow.
March 18, 2015 at 11:21 am
Inkarnit
Seriously though, I don’t know if it’s broken. I think the wolves got some lucky guesses or made some lucky deduction. There’s no way there was enough information out there for them to make pinpoint accurate attacks like that. As for the neutral, they are just screwed at this point because of the wolves’ luck. Making the neutral’s job to find bartenders seems really hard.
March 18, 2015 at 11:25 am
Inkarnit
I can see that it probably does kinda suck for the remaining bartenders. The wolves can’t find out who the neutral is now. The neutral can’t win. The wolves can’t silence anybody anymore. Removes an entire aspect of the game.
March 18, 2015 at 11:30 am
buxtonlovah
yea i kinda agree there. i think the wolves did get a bit lucky. they likely peeked a couple reg villagers then just picked from a smaller pool. at least i think that’d be possible.
March 18, 2015 at 11:29 am
todahshy
***DEAD****
I told you my issues with it in gchat, I won’t go into them here because I don’t want to affect the game at all.
I like the gimmick, but there are some slight tweaks I think we need.
****DEAD*****
March 18, 2015 at 2:53 pm
BigPapaJonTheElf
**Not Playing**
So the whole thing would take place at Moe’s in Springfield?
**Was never here**
March 18, 2015 at 11:40 am
nibbish
Okay, I’m back, but I don’t want to make any in depth gameplay moves until I’ve had a chance to read all of day two, which I’ve not been able to do yet (got back home at 2 last night, woke up to go to work at 7, have been training all day). When I’ve had a chance to read more, I’ll see what that brings – I’m still working off of too much day one info right now.
March 18, 2015 at 11:42 am
TDO
Day two is meaty so I think it would be good to read through it before speaking haha
March 18, 2015 at 11:43 am
MelissaDiamondPhillips
I think it was actually just me and Bezzy fighting while everyone else shouted, “Fight! Fight! Fight!” Except Joe, Buxton, DG, and Zee, who weren’t around much to encourage fighting. And Inkarnit, who was throwing Jell-O.
March 18, 2015 at 11:45 am
Inkarnit
LOL I just made a jello joke above too.
March 18, 2015 at 11:46 am
Colin
man, with the Bacon and then the Jello, I’m getting hungry. I’m gonna go make a Jell-O, Bacon and Melissa sandwich.
(too much?)
March 18, 2015 at 11:48 am
spookymilk
Seems fitting, given the flavor text.
March 18, 2015 at 11:48 am
Inkarnit
Sounds just right to me.
March 18, 2015 at 12:24 pm
joepunman
You said you’re training a new guy… it’s not Novak is it?
March 18, 2015 at 12:09 pm
Inkarnit
Anyone receive any drink offers today? Not that it really means anything anymore I guess, but I received an offer this morning. I rejected it of course.
March 18, 2015 at 12:13 pm
Inkarnit
Timestamp on my offer for possible analysis: 9:43am (that’s my time… so 11:43am Central)
March 18, 2015 at 12:53 pm
TDO
Interesting. Someone either wants you quiet, talk stupid, or peek at you.
I only got the one offer on day one. I expected more coming to this bar
March 18, 2015 at 12:54 pm
Inkarnit
With all the jokes you guys throw around about me talking too much, I’m surprised I hadn’t been silenced by now.
March 18, 2015 at 12:58 pm
nettiebarron
Secondy second that. Somebody clearly fell down on the job.
March 18, 2015 at 1:00 pm
Inkarnit
It might have helped the village actually. The more I talk, the more you all pay attention to me and think I’m the wolf. If I was forced to be quiet, maybe the village would have focused on the actual wolves easier.
March 18, 2015 at 1:04 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
You know, you have free will. You can simply CHOOSE to be silent the rest of the day.
March 18, 2015 at 1:05 pm
Inkarnit
I could. But is that what you guys really want?
March 18, 2015 at 1:05 pm
Colin
I got an offer today as well. rejected, though I was tempted in case it was the one that would make me talk all silly-like. I need more silly in my life.
March 18, 2015 at 1:06 pm
Inkarnit
I think rejecting is better for us all. If we accept the neutral drink and he/she wins, they are removed from the game, making the wolves victory that much easier, no?
March 18, 2015 at 1:07 pm
Inkarnit
But hey maybe this can tell us something? There are 3 drinks out there. Two have been rejected. If we knew which was which that could help. Whoever has the 3rd drink… maybe it should be accepted?
March 18, 2015 at 12:45 pm
Zee German
This is a shitty, shitty day to be trying to play werewolf. Officially in relative crisis mode at work while trying to squeeze in kid appointments. Trying to refresh from time to time, but no guarantees on my presence prior to 7pm. I’m very sorry.
March 18, 2015 at 12:46 pm
Inkarnit
Life > Werewolf. And I think you’re a cleared villager. Or nearly.
March 18, 2015 at 12:51 pm
TDO
I concur, on both statments. Hope all goes well for you ZG!
March 18, 2015 at 12:52 pm
Inkarnit
Stop agreeing with me TDO. You make me look bad.
March 18, 2015 at 12:48 pm
spookymilk
I doubt this is update-worthy, but I’m bored, so whatevs:
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.
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buxtonlovah
Colin
daneekasghost
Inkarnit voting for joepunman -2
joepunman voting for Inkarnit -2
Kg2005
MelissaD
nettiebarron voting for Inkarnit
Nibbish
TDO voting for joepunman
Zee German
Eight-plus hours until night.
March 18, 2015 at 12:50 pm
Inkarnit
(I don’t wanna) Die Tonight.
March 18, 2015 at 12:52 pm
TDO
But if we learn the most from your death, I would be ok with it 🙂 Just as I would be for my own if it meant the same.
March 18, 2015 at 12:53 pm
Inkarnit
This is true. But I was mostly making a joke that only Kelly and Melissa would get at this point.
March 18, 2015 at 1:07 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
Vote Inkarnit
March 18, 2015 at 1:08 pm
Inkarnit
I always enjoy getting votes from you Melissa.
March 18, 2015 at 1:10 pm
TDO
I’m wondering, since she hasn’t said much lately, if this vote is because you didn’t take the drink, which was offered from Melissa the assumed Neutral.
March 18, 2015 at 1:11 pm
Inkarnit
I don’t know… but her actions have been very suspect. She doesn’t have much in reason. Funny that she accused me of parroting when it seems she’s doing that herself… or less.
March 18, 2015 at 1:13 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
Now you’re parroting ME! OH MY GOD!
March 18, 2015 at 1:12 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
Just in case I got silenced, I voted. I was not silenced.
March 18, 2015 at 1:10 pm
TDO
FYI- I’ll be unavailable from 3pm est til I get home around 7pm est.
Also, as stated in the pre game sign up, tommorrow and Friday will be spotty for me.
March 18, 2015 at 1:12 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
I was offered a drink. I accepted it. I was peeked.
March 18, 2015 at 1:13 pm
TDO
Why would you accept a drink at this point in the game? You were peeked by a wolf you know?
March 18, 2015 at 1:13 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
That doesn’t bother me. How does it possibly benefit the wolf?
March 18, 2015 at 1:14 pm
Inkarnit
Really? You accepted? I thought it was already established that there would be absolutely no reason for anyone to accept a drink. I only JUST made the suggestion that PERHAPS the 3rd drink should be accepted to help figure things out. I smell wolf.
March 18, 2015 at 1:16 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
I’m still not seeing how wasting a drink on me benefits the wolf.
March 18, 2015 at 1:16 pm
TDO
I’m thinking Neutral, I don’t see why a wolf would wave a red flag like this.
Me thinks:
Melissa – Neutral
Karn, Joe, nibbish – wolves
TDO, KG, ZG – villagers
March 18, 2015 at 1:17 pm
Inkarnit
If we are to believe her claim that she was peeked, it tells us that she is a villager or neutral. Obviously the wolves were trying to find the neutral, but… It smells funny. I don’t understand why she would accept.
March 18, 2015 at 1:15 pm
Inkarnit
unvote joe
vote Melissa
Her claim of accepting a drink just now doesn’t hold up. I don’t believe it in any way. She’s a wolf trying to cover since saying she was peeked would mean she wasn’t a wolf.
March 18, 2015 at 1:17 pm
TDO
but the neutral can’t claim. The wolves are obviously still looking for the neutral as they dont need to kill the neutral to win. It’s one less person for them to kill to win the game. Me thinks you are burying yourself further.
March 18, 2015 at 1:19 pm
Inkarnit
I know the neutral can’t claim. But… you think she’s telling the truth? I just don’t understand why she would accept. That’s what’s fishy to me.
March 18, 2015 at 1:19 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
I am not a wolf.
March 18, 2015 at 1:22 pm
Inkarnit
Okay, please explain your reasoning for accepting the drink at this point. I need to understand. Because my doubt here is that you even got a drink offer. You are claiming you got one. If it’s because you’re the neutral, you could just not offer yours and it would seem like the right number of drinks have been offered. But that doesn’t further your goal as the neutral to get your drinks accepted. So I don’t understand your motivation. You know the other 2 were offered and rejected, so you could claim accepting anything (except the Quiet Sunday) and no one would know any better but you.
March 18, 2015 at 1:22 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
If my drink was a peek, I think others should be aware partly because that means they can drink the last drink. They will safely not be peeked.
March 18, 2015 at 1:23 pm
Inkarnit
I see your motivation now. You are trying to get your neutral drink accepted. But you messed up in that there are only 3 drinks and all 3 have now been accounted for. Colin, me, and you. There is no 4th. I think this actually confirms your neutral status LOL
March 18, 2015 at 1:25 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
I don’t remember reading that Colin got a drink, but I’m pretty sure it’s not the case. Just you and me.
March 18, 2015 at 1:25 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
Unless you’re lying, which is…entirely true. So my vote stays on you.
March 18, 2015 at 1:25 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
Entirely LIKELY. Not true. Sorry.
March 18, 2015 at 1:26 pm
Inkarnit
No he got one. Or is also lying. But we can settle this easily. Offer me your drink Melissa. I will accept and then clear you as neutral.
March 18, 2015 at 1:24 pm
Inkarnit
unvote Melissa
Her post just above clearly shows what she was trying to accomplish as the neutral. No need to lynch her.
March 18, 2015 at 1:30 pm
Colin
I think you’re getting ahead of yourself on this. I was very tempted to take the drink but refused in case I got silenced. Who cares if I get peeked, and I might get lucky and get the silly talk one. Who cares if the neutral wins – it doesn’t benefit the wolves, but it greatly benefits the village – one less unknown.
now that I’m typing this I totally should have taken the drink.
March 18, 2015 at 1:33 pm
Inkarnit
Um, the neutral winning would benefit the wolves, NOT the village. It reduces the number of people and removes an entire possible mistake.
March 18, 2015 at 1:57 pm
Colin
that’s a good point.
March 18, 2015 at 1:27 pm
nibbish
I was offered a drink. I refused. Accepting a drink doesn’t help the village in any way that I can see.
March 18, 2015 at 1:28 pm
Inkarnit
Wait, what? Now there are 5 drink claims?
March 18, 2015 at 1:29 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
Where are you getting these numbers from? There have only been THREE today, potentially. You, me, and Nibbs.
March 18, 2015 at 1:28 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
Does anybody else want to point out to me when Colin got a drink offer today? Is Inkarnit making this up?
March 18, 2015 at 1:29 pm
Inkarnit
March 18, 2015 at 1:30 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
Nibbs’ would still only be #4.
March 18, 2015 at 1:32 pm
Inkarnit
Okay yeah I typed 5, meant 4. I was adding the one you were suggesting was still available. Which was yours. I guess you sent your offer to nibbish so I can’t confirm you as neutral now.
March 18, 2015 at 1:30 pm
TDO
We got some liars here.
March 18, 2015 at 1:34 pm
nettiebarron
Dun Dun Dun
March 18, 2015 at 1:31 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
Unvote Inkarnit
Can I point out, then, that we have a liar? Colin, I need you to indicate when you were offered a drink, please, or I’ve decided it was you. I believe someone tried to silence him, not you. Because who wouldn’t want to silence Inkarnit? Which means Colin is the liar. And a wolf.
March 18, 2015 at 1:32 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
*him being Inkarnit
March 18, 2015 at 2:02 pm
Colin
My drink offer was received at 9:21am
March 18, 2015 at 1:32 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
Vote Colin
March 18, 2015 at 1:35 pm
spookymilk
Programming note: the neutral isn’t a villager. The neutral is a neutral. The neutral being removed does not remove a villager from the game. It just removes the neutral.
It’s 7-3-1. If the wolves equal the number of villagers or better, they win. What the neutral does is, as always, completely to the side of this.
March 18, 2015 at 1:37 pm
Inkarnit
Oh. Well then I guess I’m wrong about the neutral winning hurting the village. Seems it can go either way. The wolves will not waste a kill or direct lynching towards the neutral, but we also won’t waste time trying to lynch a neutral.
March 18, 2015 at 1:46 pm
TDO
Right, for the wolves they would like to know the neutral just so it’s not a wasted kill for them. Has no other bearing.
March 18, 2015 at 2:03 pm
Colin
that’s not true. It has tons of bearing. knowing the neutral is one less unknown for the village.
March 18, 2015 at 1:46 pm
TDO
I still like my list above of a nibbish, karn, joe wolf pack.
March 18, 2015 at 1:47 pm
Inkarnit
Let’s put a pin in that. Not true, but right now we have an obvious liar.
March 18, 2015 at 1:50 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
For once, I agree with Inkarnit. To be honest TDO, I think you’re a wolf, too, but we’ll table that for tomorrow. For right now, it’s very clear that one of the Colins is lying, and the one that’s lying is clearly a wolf.
March 18, 2015 at 1:55 pm
Inkarnit
I was the first to tell anyone I got a drink offer. If I were lying, why would I do so before seeing what was out there? Also, if I was a wolf I wouldn’t need to fake it. I could arrange for one of the drinks to be sent my way and automatically be telling the truth. No, the only thing that makes sense is someone else is lying. I thought Melissa was lying to get her Salty Dog accepted. If all 3 were already out there though, there’s no point in that lie. Unless she said that right as that last drink went out. Nibbish, when did you reject your drink? Is it feasible Melissa was sending out while talking about the next drink being okay to accept?
March 18, 2015 at 2:01 pm
nibbish
I received it about forty minutes ago.
March 18, 2015 at 2:05 pm
Inkarnit
OK. That’s disappointing. Thought we had a wolf clue. Looks like it’s only a neutral confirmation.
March 18, 2015 at 1:53 pm
TDO
TDO leaving point (i’m heading out now, When I get home I’ll catch up on everything below this post lol)
March 18, 2015 at 2:00 pm
nibbish
What would I have to gain by faking a drink right now, knowing that it’s the fourth drink claim today? I brought it up so that everyone would have access to the knowledge and so that we would know that we potentially have a liar amongst us. There wouldn’t be a lot of reason to bring it up if I was faking.
March 18, 2015 at 2:03 pm
Inkarnit
So then either Colin or Melissa is lying. Did you get that drink offer late? Like during the discussion with Melissa? If so, then Melissa is the liar and we know it was to get her drink drank. That makes sense. Otherwise, it was a wolf.
March 18, 2015 at 2:07 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
I’m not understanding why two drinks can’t be sent at the same time. Or why one wouldn’t be sent out right before the other was imbibed. Your logic does not compute here. The only possible liars are you or Colin.
March 18, 2015 at 2:10 pm
Inkarnit
It’s either really good timing, or you’re lying. Unfortunately you can’t confirm your reasoning since you can’t claim neutral. We can easily resolve this tomorrow though by requesting a drink from you. I don’t think anyone wants to lynch the neutral.
March 18, 2015 at 2:07 pm
Inkarnit
See above. Nibbish got his offer around 1:25 or so… Which fits in the timeline where Melissa was trying to make people think the last drink offer would be safe. She hadn’t realized that Colin claimed to receive a drink offer earlier. So she was lying but it was as the neutral.
March 18, 2015 at 2:17 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
This is really rather far fetched story and a strange, round-about way to do things, if it were true. It’s also not painting a good picture of YOU, Inkarnit. This story sounds like a desperate attempt to pull attention off wolves, presumably yourself. Perhaps both you and Colin. Please convince me you’re not the liar and not a wolf.
March 18, 2015 at 2:20 pm
Inkarnit
I was hoping it was a wolf clue too Melissa. After the headaches Colin has given me, jumping on a reason to lynch him should be easy enough. But I don’t think this is it. I guess he could be lying, but it made more sense for it to be you. If I was a wolf, I would have just let your misdirection towards Colin work, point the finger at him, and yell for his death. I’m not doing that. I think that shows I’m not a wolf.
March 18, 2015 at 2:21 pm
Inkarnit
Of course the other possibility is that Kelly got drunk and forgot where to send drink offers and when lol
March 18, 2015 at 2:23 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
It’s a wolf clue. I’m not understanding why you’re choosing to ignore it, outside of you being a wolf with the other Colin. Maybe all your “No, I’M the real Colin!” fights were a decoy. Based on the facts you present, your accompanying arguments are bizarre.
March 18, 2015 at 2:28 pm
Inkarnit
As the neutral you don’t care one way or the other, so not sure how much I should pay attention to what you say, but Colin and I both being wolves is preposterous. Why would one of us fake claim and screw the other? I claimed first, then him. In reply to me. So he would have known he was fucking it up. We can’t both be wolves. I’m not saying he’s not a wolf, or that he’s not lying, but us being wolves together is illogical.
March 18, 2015 at 2:31 pm
Inkarnit
Melissa does have me sufficiently confused about Colin. I think her making the false claim makes most sense but she’s really adamant. Maybe Colin is fooling me again? This ought to clear things up one way or another.
vote Colin
March 18, 2015 at 2:41 pm
spookymilk
Did you ever unvote pun? I’ve applied this vote, but let’s unvote too.
March 18, 2015 at 2:42 pm
Inkarnit
Yes.
March 18, 2015 at 2:43 pm
spookymilk
CARRY ON
March 18, 2015 at 2:48 pm
Colin
In what way are you confused? you think the best solution to your confusion is to lynch me? dude you are slipping, and I think it’s because melissa is working you over on this lying about the drinks thing and you’re panicking and trying to divert attention. I’m not sure if that’s because you’re a wolf or what.
March 18, 2015 at 2:49 pm
Inkarnit
I’m confused because she seems adamant that she wasn’t lying. One of you were. Or nibbish. But nibbish doesn’t make sense to lie after all the other drinks are claimed. Her lie makes sense as the neutral. Yours makes sense as the wolf. I’d rather get a wolf. But if I’m wrong? I guess the neutral is the lesser of two evils. Maybe I should vote for her?
March 18, 2015 at 2:59 pm
Colin
why aren’t you considering nebbish lying more in-depth than “it doesn’t make sense”? Of course it makes sense. He didn’t think it through and screwed up. he’s lying.
look, it’s either
Me
Karn
Melissa
Nibs
who are lying. I believe Karn. Melissa would not harp about it as much as she has if she’s lying. no way. she would try to diffuse the situation. She didn’t.
so, that leaves nibs.
Now, I believe Karn only if I exclude the idea that he came out early claiming drinks as a tactic to confuse the village at some point. this is totally possible, but I’m leaning more toward Nibs being a wolf and lying about the drink than Karn.
March 18, 2015 at 3:03 pm
Inkarnit
Hmm. I guess I just figure nibbish wouldn’t make such a mistake. I shouldn’t assume but that seems more far fetched that one of the middle two making the fake claim. Melissa’s fake claim TOTALLY made sense because she was trying to get her drink accepted so she could get a neutral victory. But she says that’s not what she was doing rather than just owning it. Maybe she’s not allowed to own it as part of the whole neutral thing. I don’t know. I would expect wolf-Colin to come after me now. But you aren’t. You are going after nibbish. That actually leads me to think you are more villager than wolf. I still don’t think I buy nibbish with the fake claim being 4th, but this is enough to remove my suspicion from you for now.
March 18, 2015 at 3:12 pm
nibbish
Ah, now this is the Colin I remember.
You’re wrong, though. I got a drink offer and refused it. I told everyone here to bring up the fact that someone’s lying. Simple as that.
March 18, 2015 at 3:23 pm
Inkarnit
So then who you do think is lying nibbish?
March 18, 2015 at 2:45 pm
nibbish
Inkarnit, maybe I do have blinders on, but I can’t stop seeing everything you’re doing as wolfy today.
Like I said, I’m not going to cast any votes or make big bold statements without reading up on yesterday when I get home, but you seem like the wolfiest wolf.
March 18, 2015 at 2:47 pm
Inkarnit
I’m hoping after you finish reading those blinders will be removed. I’m always wolfy looking it seems. I just can’t help that. But I’m not. I don’t know how else to show it other than what I’ve done. I think my explanations above to Melissa about this drink claim thing sufficiently explains my innocence.
March 18, 2015 at 2:48 pm
Colin
this is exactly what I say when I’m a wolf. exactly. to a tee.
March 18, 2015 at 2:52 pm
Inkarnit
So either your wolf mind and mine think alike or your wolf mind is devious enough to think like a villager? I’m not sure what that means really. What response do you think I should have to this? He says he might have blinders for me on and is going to read up on yesterday, which packs a LOT of information. I can’t do anything but wait until he reads it.
March 18, 2015 at 3:03 pm
Inkarnit
unvote Colin for now. He didn’t come at me like I expected wolf Colin to do.
March 18, 2015 at 3:04 pm
Colin
So, my suggestion is to table the drink offer thing for the moment.
If melissa is indeed the neutral, then her goal at this point, if she is choosing not to help the village, is to confuse the village. if this is the case, I expect she is succeeding.
I had thoughts about DG being the neutral as well, as he seems to be playing that role. this would make melissa a wolf.
at this point, top of my list includes:
Karn
Joe
Nibs
DG
Melissa
with one neutral and one mistake in there. my gut tells me that DG is the neutral and the wolves lay in the other three, but I’m not going by gut on this one.
March 18, 2015 at 3:13 pm
Inkarnit
I guess I was so convinced that Melissa was the neutral that I didn’t consider her actually being a wolf and someone else being the neutral. Her lie would make sense as a wolf too. And then trying to make people feel comfortable with accepting the neutral drink would then be to get a neutral victory, get that person out of the way, and more easily ensure a wolf victory. That makes sense too.
March 18, 2015 at 3:06 pm
Colin
It is a little strange that Melissa voted me and asked me a direct question but has since been absent (as far as I can see) after I responded.
March 18, 2015 at 3:14 pm
nibbish
I could screencap the offer, but Kelly would probably consider that to be cheating.
I’m assuming? Kelly, is screencapping allowed?
March 18, 2015 at 3:24 pm
nibbish
Thinking further into the ramifications of this, that’s a gross, gross question. Consider it withdrawn.
March 18, 2015 at 3:27 pm
Inkarnit
Yeah, otherwise this would quickly become a game of “photoshop the role email”
March 18, 2015 at 3:15 pm
Inkarnit
Well this is easier than I thought. Either Colin or Melissa is being uber manipulative. Colin is making more sense than Melissa (maybe that should tell me something though?) so I’m going to…
vote Melissa
March 18, 2015 at 3:16 pm
spookymilk
Screencapping would be way, way, way over the line. This is not an admission nor a denial that I actually sent anything to nibbish.
March 18, 2015 at 3:24 pm
nibbish
Yeah, I figured that. Sorry to even have brought it up.
March 18, 2015 at 3:17 pm
spookymilk
Why, sure, there are enough votes out there for another update…
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.
..
buxtonlovah
Colin -1
daneekasghost
Inkarnit voting for MelissaD -2
joepunman voting for Inkarnit -1
Kg2005
MelissaD voting for Colin -1
nettiebarron voting for Inkarnit
Nibbish
TDO voting for joepunman
Zee German
March 18, 2015 at 3:34 pm
daneekasghost
vote: inkarnit
Someone is going to have to explain to me why a wolf would jump in the middle of these role claims and lie just for the heck of it.
Especially since the only heat on any of these four was on inkarnit, and just me on Colin.
I don’t buy inkarnit’s Melissa as a neutral liar theory, because removing the seer drink doesn’t really influence the village to accept drinks. It’s the silenced we don’t want.
March 18, 2015 at 3:37 pm
daneekasghost
On my phone in the lab. I’m reading but posting is difficult.
March 18, 2015 at 3:47 pm
Inkarnit
Huh? Why would I start out by lying? I explained this exhaustively above. Melissa tried to say people could accept the last drink. SHE said that here:
She was working on the theory that the wolves attempted to silence me. Since I was given the Quiet Sunday and she was given the Red Devil that only left the Salty Dog and she wanted someone to accept it. Or she was a wolf and wanted people to think that was the case so they would accept the Quiet Sunday. I don’t know what she was thinking but that’s what she said.
March 18, 2015 at 3:48 pm
daneekasghost
But that doesn’t work, does it? No one in the game right now is scared of being peeked by a wolf.
March 18, 2015 at 3:50 pm
Inkarnit
I agree. But as the neutral it made sense that she was trying to get her drink accepted. This is what caused my whole interest in the first place.
March 18, 2015 at 3:53 pm
Inkarnit
Coming in with this vote on me just doesn’t make sense. I’m not the one lying here. If you read things in the order they happened you would see that. Either Colin or Melissa is lying and Melissa seems most plausible, either because she’s the neutral or a wolf. Exact reasoning remains to be seen, but if we lynch her and she’s either, we know. If we lynch her and she’s a villager, then Colin was lying. If we lynch him and he’s a villager too, then either I’m a dumb wolf or nibbish is. But I can damn near guarantee that lynching Melissa will answer this question for us.
March 18, 2015 at 3:36 pm
joepunman
Rankings from Most to Least Wolfy:
Inkarnit – they way he “puts people’s feet to the fire” is too wolfy
Colin – He’s a really good wolf
TDO – I still think the wolves silenced him the first day to draw suspicion
Melissa – if she’s not the wolf, she’s neutral
Zee German
Nettiebarron
buxtonlovah
daneekasghost
Nibbish
kg2005 – I believe him about the drinks.
March 18, 2015 at 4:13 pm
Inkarnit
These rankings are all based on everyone that happened yesterday. It’s like you’re not even reading anything that’s going on.
March 18, 2015 at 3:46 pm
buxtonlovah
what was the drink order “received” today? i got lost in all that hubidity bub above.
March 18, 2015 at 3:49 pm
Inkarnit
I claimed to receive a drink first. I provided the timestamp on my drink at 9:43am my time which was 11:43am game time. Afterwards, Colin replied saying he had received a drink as well. He later declared the timestamp on his was 9:21am Central. Melissa then came out saying she accepted a drink which I initially thought made her a wolf. Afterwards, she made a statement here https://spookymilk.wordpress.com/2015/03/18/werewolf-return-to-the-speakeasy-day-three/#comment-59612 about it now being safe to accept the last drink. I pointed out that it didn’t make sense that she accepted and during all that nibbish came forward saying he received a drink offer as well, which would have been around 1:25pm Central.
March 18, 2015 at 3:55 pm
Inkarnit
My drink at 11:43am Central came from someone active within 30 minutes of that time, we can pretty safely assume. From 11:14am to 12:15pm the only people active were TDO, buxtonlovah, nibbish, Melissa (who made a post at exactly 11:43am… but that doesn’t necessarily make it her), and Colin.
March 18, 2015 at 3:58 pm
buxtonlovah
so is it not a good wolf like move here to come out and claim a drink right away before anyone else? that way when the other drunks come out claimin they got em you could shoot back to that and call everybody else liars?
March 18, 2015 at 3:56 pm
buxtonlovah
thanks
March 18, 2015 at 3:47 pm
daneekasghost
I should also point out that priority number 1 for the neutral right now is to kill the silencing wolf. That would make all the drinks either fun or harmless.
So the neutral should be helping the village today.
March 18, 2015 at 3:47 pm
nettiebarron
Really busy day at work but trying to keep up. I’m keeping my vote on Wolfson for now.
March 18, 2015 at 4:00 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
The neutral wants the others to drink the neutral drink so that the neutral can win this game for the neutral. Taking a drink from the neutral does nothing to harm wolves or villagers. All it does is make them talk funny, and it brings the neutral closer to winning. While I understand that the village would want one extra person around, and would therefore maybe be anti a neutral win this early on, the neutral still has no reason to SABOTAGE THE VILLAGE. So being suspicious about someone you think is a neutral makes little sense. The neutral would also not lie about whether they received a drink because then that means that more than just the neutral’s drink could be out there, and they don’t want that drink drunk. They want the NEUTRAL drink drunk. Inkarnit’s logic about this makes no sense.
Colin’s ad-hominem attack also makes no sense. I wasn’t here to respond to you, Colin, because I work. Not because I was suddenly afraid to confront you.
A wolf would fake claim to throw off the village and cause chaos. They would fake claim to make themselves appear to be a villager (because, seriously, why would a wolf seer peek a wolf? — that would be the logic). I’m leaning towards Colin because, once again, I truly believe someone would try to silence Inkarnit. If I had that power, I would do it in an instant. Why would the silencer go towards the other Colin?
I can neither confirm nor deny whether I’m the neutral. However, I will state I am not the wolf, and that Inkarnit is imploding hardcore and Colin is being calm and tricksy, which I’d expect because he is one of the types that silently kills you in your sleep, whereas Inkarnit talks himself into a frenzy and explodes all over you, killing you by accident. I want to figure out how to decide between the two of them which is the liar.
March 18, 2015 at 4:02 pm
Inkarnit
Argh. I just know one of you is lying and you are both so convincing lol
March 18, 2015 at 4:32 pm
kg2005
You can deny being the neutral. Do you think it’s worth it to explore figuring out who lied about the drink offer?
March 18, 2015 at 4:37 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
I do think it’s worth it. Because the only reason to lie is to appear to be a villager when one is not. I don’t understand why anybody would otherwise lie about that.
March 18, 2015 at 4:40 pm
kg2005
Uh huh. And feel free to ignore this question- are you a villager?
March 18, 2015 at 7:45 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
I am not a wolf.
March 18, 2015 at 4:02 pm
kg2005
So work was still a bit busy this afternoon, but here I am. I’m caught up on day two and now I’m going to go catch up on day three. Not that it matters, I already know who the wolves are*.
*not really
March 18, 2015 at 4:03 pm
Inkarnit
Dammit KG we need you to actually know! LOL
March 18, 2015 at 4:05 pm
Inkarnit
unvote Melissa until I can figure out wtf is going on with those two.
March 18, 2015 at 4:07 pm
joepunman
Heading home soon, will be scarce tonight. My vote is on Inkarnit. It’s going to stay there. I’m 95% confident about him.
March 18, 2015 at 4:09 pm
Inkarnit
Oh you. I’m not done with you either but this Melissa/Colin thing has taken all my attention and you know it. I’m positive one of them is a wolf or neutral. Still pretty sure you’re a wolf too. And you haven’t contributed anything to any of this.
March 18, 2015 at 4:15 pm
joepunman
Haven’t had time to parse that out. Both could be wolves for all I know. My vote’s still on you though.
March 18, 2015 at 4:16 pm
Inkarnit
I know you haven’t. That’s my point. You are being totally unhelpful. If you’re a villager, you are destroying our chances. This leads me to think you have to be a wolf deliberately ignoring information to make your vote make sense.
March 18, 2015 at 5:10 pm
joepunman
When it is revealed that I’m a villager, everyone will realize how unhelpful you have been by putting all the heat on me.
March 18, 2015 at 5:12 pm
Inkarnit
All the heat? What are you talking about? You really don’t read anything do you?
March 18, 2015 at 4:18 pm
Inkarnit
“I’ll just park my vote on the one with all the heat. This way it looks like I contributed but didn’t require me actually knowing anything. That’s the ticket.” This just screams wolf. No? Anyone else?
March 18, 2015 at 4:27 pm
Colin
Melissa’s last post cemented for me that she is either the neutral or the wolf. I’m leaning wolf.
I’m being called away for a family emergency but will be back later this evening if I can. If not and she is able to convince you guys to vot for me, that’s fine. I think I’ve contributed all I can for today anyway. Besides my death would tell you all a lot given I’ve interacted with pretty much everyone.
vote melissa
March 18, 2015 at 4:34 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
I’m actually leaning away from you because Inkarnit is sounding very much like he’s grasping for straws. And then being agreeable when the heat is removed momentarily from him to someone else. Then grasping at straws again when the heat is back on him. This could just be his personality, but I find it hard to believe he hasn’t fumbling around a mistake he made when he potentially false claimed earlier.
March 18, 2015 at 4:40 pm
Inkarnit
I’m not grasping at any straws. I’m convinced it’s between the two of you. I just can’t figure out which of you is lying. I thought I had figured your lie out and that it made sense. You could even admit to the lie and I’d be good with it. But you’re sticking to it. And Colin makes a good case too. Therefore I removed my vote from either of you for now. Not sure what to do but perhaps KG will have a fresh perspective to add.
March 18, 2015 at 4:55 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
What lie did I supposedly do? If it was the thing about me being a neutral and then lying about getting a drink so that other people would drink so that I could win the neutral contest, I can’t speak to any of that without giving away whether I’m the neutral. If the lie is that I got a drink at all, well, that’s not a lie. I got a drink. It was from the seer, and I was peeked.
March 18, 2015 at 4:58 pm
Inkarnit
Then let’s establish the other drinks. You say you got Red Devil. I am pretty sure I got Quiet Sunday (because everyone is a comedian). That just leaves your Salty Dog. And you can’t say who you sent it to. So who would be your vote in this situation if the above is true?
March 18, 2015 at 4:57 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
The only reason you’d make this into a contest between me and Colin is if you yourself are a wolf deflecting. Your arguments against my veracity are putting a bigger flashing sign over you. Otherwise, go back and reread pretty much everything I’ve said, and you’ll probably come to the same conclusion everyone else is. That being: I am not a wolf. If you’re trying to determine who’s a wolf between myself and Colin, you are asking the wrong question.
March 18, 2015 at 4:29 pm
spookymilk
It’s still convoluted, so you deserve another update.
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buxtonlovah
Colin voting for MelissaD -1
daneekasghost voting for Inkarnit
Inkarnit -3
joepunman voting for Inkarnit -1
Kg2005
MelissaD voting for Colin -1
nettiebarron voting for Inkarnit
Nibbish
TDO voting for joepunman
Zee German
Four and a half hours.
March 18, 2015 at 4:33 pm
kg2005
Alright, I’m here and caught up, just in time for the late afternoon lull.
March 18, 2015 at 4:35 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
I would like your argument as to which is lying: Colin or Colin.
March 18, 2015 at 4:39 pm
kg2005
Just from reading through the game in no great detail, here are my initial impressions-
Colin- not a wolf.
DG- Arguing logically just the way I like it. Might be a wolf, but if so he’s helping the village and I have no interest in voting for him right now.
Inkarnit- No clue. Seems to be getting a lot of pressure on him but I don’t see it so clearly.
Joe- He was the one that jumped out to me yesterday and I probably would have voted for him if I were around. He’s had a few posts today that seemed villagery, but he’s still my leader in the clubhouse.
Melissa- pretty clear neutral.
Annette- didn’t pick up on much, there was a time that jumped out to me as weird when she said that it could be “joe or inkarnate” like she had already ruled out being both.
Nibbish- didn’t make a single note. I expect I’ll hear more from him
TDO- if this is TDO as a wolf, his talent has been wasted all these games. villager
Zee – almost definitely a villager
March 18, 2015 at 4:54 pm
Inkarnit
You really think Colin is not a wolf? If he’s not a wolf then he’s not lying about the drink, which means Melissa is. Colin has tricked me into thinking he was a villager before so I don’t doubt his ability to do it again. But if you think he’s clean then I need to move my focus off the pair of them and somewhere else.
March 18, 2015 at 4:58 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
WHY would I reasonably lie about a drink!? This is a seriously distracting question. It has nothing to do with finding a wolf.
March 18, 2015 at 4:59 pm
Inkarnit
It might not. That’s what I’m trying to establish here.
March 18, 2015 at 5:02 pm
kg2005
We all know why she would reasonably lie. She’s doing an excellent job of not admitting that she’s the neutral.
March 18, 2015 at 5:03 pm
Inkarnit
And voting for me at the same time.
March 18, 2015 at 5:03 pm
kg2005
Why not Colin- well, my reasons are my own for now, but if anybody strongly disagrees we’ll see what happens.
March 18, 2015 at 4:41 pm
kg2005
Nibbs- why do you think you were so low on Will’s wolf list yesterday?
March 18, 2015 at 5:16 pm
nibbish
Off the top of my head, I’d think it might have to do with the fact that he wanted to go after Inkarnit on night one and cosigned that killing the new guy was a bad idea.
I’m making this statement having not read day two. I’m going to do so now. I’ll be back with whatever notes I make.
March 18, 2015 at 4:58 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
Unvote Colin
March 18, 2015 at 4:59 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
Vote Inkarnit
I’m going to be gone awhile now. Probably until about 7pm?
March 18, 2015 at 5:00 pm
Inkarnit
Hold on a second. I gave you a hypothesis above on who got what drink. Voting Inkarnit doesn’t make sense in that hypothesis.
March 18, 2015 at 5:01 pm
spookymilk
Six is a majority.
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buxtonlovah
Colin voting for MelissaD
daneekasghost voting for Inkarnit
Inkarnit -4
joepunman voting for Inkarnit -1
Kg2005
MelissaD voting for Inkarnit -1
nettiebarron voting for Inkarnit
Nibbish
TDO voting for joepunman
Zee German
Four hours
March 18, 2015 at 5:02 pm
Inkarnit
I now have 4 votes as the lead vote getter. Those 4 are DG, Joe, Annette, and Melissa. DG dropped a vote and left. Joe dropped a vote and left. Annette dropped a vote and… get the picture? Why is this occuring? Are we so positive that I’m a wolf here that everyone can vote for me and disappear? Might not there be a better explanation than the village suddenly being so smart?
March 18, 2015 at 5:03 pm
Inkarnit
And yeah like spooky just said… 6 is majority. I’m 2 away. Are the wolves already on me or ready to pounce?
March 18, 2015 at 5:31 pm
daneekasghost
The only time wolves pounce (especially more than one) is to end a game.
If you’re a villager, it would be suicide for wolves to force an early majority.
Colin put forth this same weird argument yesterday, it’s not going to happen.
March 18, 2015 at 5:34 pm
Inkarnit
Good point. But I still say there’s at least one voting for me now.
March 18, 2015 at 5:39 pm
Inkarnit
Just look at what happened here. You voted for me because you thought my idea that Melissa was just trying to get her drink accepted was dumb…. but I linked you to a place where she did exactly that. As KG states below, she may be the neutral but there are advantages to voting out the neutral too. It’s better than getting a villager for sure.
March 18, 2015 at 5:04 pm
Inkarnit
vote Melissa because even if she’s the neutral she’s trying to fuck the village.
March 18, 2015 at 5:05 pm
Inkarnit
Also lynching the neutral ultimately doesn’t really hurt the village. It’s better than lynching a villager.
March 18, 2015 at 5:07 pm
kg2005
Voting off the neutral may have some benefits. It would leave us at 6-3 instead of our current 7-3-1. We would still have one more mistake left to make and one less person to make it with.
March 18, 2015 at 5:07 pm
Inkarnit
I can be persuaded to switch to joepunman as well. He’s the wolf that I think is currently voting for me. And/or Annette.
March 18, 2015 at 5:12 pm
Inkarnit
More reason why I’d have no problem switching to joe… he seems oblivious to what is actually happening in this game.
March 18, 2015 at 5:11 pm
spookymilk
Off to do some writing. Writing typically consumes me, so if you really need me, text me at 612 819 7196.
March 18, 2015 at 5:40 pm
Inkarnit
School just called. My 9 month old son has a fever for 102. I’m leaving work to go get him now and not sure when/if I’ll be back.
March 18, 2015 at 5:54 pm
nibbish
Ah, hope the kid is okay.
March 18, 2015 at 5:53 pm
daneekasghost
unvote: inkarnit
I’m going to try a more general search and see what I can find. Of the four with drink claims, I still suspect inkarnit the most.
March 18, 2015 at 5:54 pm
nibbish
I’m about a quarter of the way through yesterday, but it’s time for dinner. I will be back and quite active this evening after dinner.
March 18, 2015 at 5:58 pm
spookymilk
Three hours now.
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buxtonlovah
Colin voting for MelissaD
daneekasghost
Inkarnit voting for MelissaD -3
joepunman voting for Inkarnit -1
Kg2005
MelissaD voting for Inkarnit -2
nettiebarron voting for Inkarnit
Nibbish
TDO voting for joepunman
Zee German
March 18, 2015 at 6:36 pm
TDO
I’m back. After reading through the vote thing. I kind of think the wolves are nibbish and both collins. Arguing among themselves makes them blend in with the village when one is found out as a wolf.
They are way quick to go after melissa who just about shouted neutral without doing so.
It actually works if they are wolves with the drink issue to. Since they control 2 of the 3 drinks and melissa the other. They can say they three were all offered and never actually offer the 2 wolf drinks, or even offer it to each other. Then the only one left to dispute there is a liar among the four would be the neutral since no drinks went outside the wolves.
This would also explain nibbish popping up as the “4th” drinker. Once one of them got the neutral drink they had the rest ofit in their pocket
Seriously, this makes perfect sense and isn’t as convuluted as it sounds. Its actually pretty easy, all they needed was the neutral to offer one of them the drink today, tommorrow, etc and since they control the other drinks, the trap is set.
unvote joe
I’m ready to slam down my vote on nibbish, karn, or colin.
March 18, 2015 at 6:50 pm
buxtonlovah
Yea mell a neut for sure. I lean karn a wolf. His early drink claim sits with me as reeeell sneaky. Nibbs is intersting and I like that drink theory too. I still sit uneasy with this tdo … That beezy convo yesterday keeps popping up to me.
March 18, 2015 at 6:52 pm
Inkarnit
Checking in real quick. Son if doing okay. Just trying to get his temp down. Let’s use your hypothesis. Me, Colin, and nibbish are wolves. All three of us risked exposure on the same ploy that we were just waiting for so that we could lynch the neutral. Why the hell do we want the neutral lynched? Don’t we want her to win? Lynching her gives the village more time. So we have the village more time and outed ourselves. We’re smart wolves.
March 18, 2015 at 6:59 pm
daneekasghost
Consider me skeptical of any proposed plan that puts all the wolves in one group at once. It’s not impossible, but that seems like a recipe for disaster for wolves.
March 18, 2015 at 7:25 pm
Colin
ugh. terrible. cmon TDO you can do better. DG and Karn just pointed out the glaring hole in your theory. Let’s put your considerably honed wolf hunting skills to good use, eh?
March 18, 2015 at 7:21 pm
nibbish
Okay, that took WAY (way, way, way) longer than it should have. I’ll be back, but I’m going to resume my perusing of day two.
March 18, 2015 at 7:28 pm
Colin
unvote melissa
because I like her reaction to my vote.
i’m just now starting to get my kids down, so hopefully I’ll be back at my desk before 8:30. i’ll put a solid vote down then, but until then I want to see what happens when I do this
vote inkarnit
March 18, 2015 at 7:38 pm
Inkarnit
What happens? I point out how little sense it makes that all the non participants dropped a vote on me then went away. We can’t afford a mistake. I was for a Melissa vote because lynching the presumed neutral is better than a villager. If she’s not neutral then she’s a wolf. No risk of villager. I’m not a wolf. You lynch me and the village is near screwed. We’re letting inactive wolves succeed. Or you’re a wolf Colin and manipulating masterfully yet again. I don’t know. But I know I didn’t lie and I’m not a wolf.
March 18, 2015 at 8:09 pm
kg2005
It makes a lot of sense. You leave a lot of material behind, so if they come by and skim through you’re an easy target.
March 18, 2015 at 7:40 pm
spookymilk
Eighty minutes…
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buxtonlovah
Colin voting for Inkarnit
daneekasghost
Inkarnit voting for MelissaD -4
joepunman voting for Inkarnit
Kg2005
MelissaD voting for Inkarnit -1
nettiebarron voting for Inkarnit
Nibbish
TDO
Zee German
March 18, 2015 at 7:43 pm
nettiebarron
Unvote Inkarnit I just don’t know.
March 18, 2015 at 7:52 pm
nibbish
Still reading. My god, you people talked a lot yesterday.
March 18, 2015 at 8:04 pm
kg2005
Yeah, took me all afternoon to catch up.
March 18, 2015 at 8:05 pm
daneekasghost
Still feeling overwhelmed with it all.
March 18, 2015 at 8:06 pm
kg2005
The nice part is that you can skip all of beezy’s parts what with her being dead.
March 18, 2015 at 8:17 pm
nibbish
That was kind of nice, actually. Anytime anyone was suspicious of Beezy, I was just able to say “nope” and move on.
March 18, 2015 at 8:00 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
I read this to say, “I’m sorely disappointed I chose real life and a concert over playing this ridiculous game with you guys yesterday”.
March 18, 2015 at 8:11 pm
Inkarnit
unvote Melissa
March 18, 2015 at 8:12 pm
spookymilk
With just 47 minutes left, we have three votes from you loads. THREE.
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buxtonlovah
Colin voting for Inkarnit
daneekasghost
Inkarnit -3
joepunman voting for Inkarnit
Kg2005
MelissaD voting for Inkarnit
nettiebarron
Nibbish
TDO
Zee German
March 18, 2015 at 8:13 pm
nibbish
This is long and arduous. For the cliffs notes, skip to my next post. This isn’t particularly exhaustive, just stuff that came to mind as I read.
Punman:
* First post of the day. I press him to comment more, he says “551 comments yesterday, I didn’t want to make it lany longer for the villagers on day 6 to figure out who the last wolf is.”
* Calls for Buxtonlovah’s head.
* Lands on the “it’s wolfy to tell people to accept drinks” side of the fence.
* Votes Melissa, reasoning that she hasn’t danced for him.
* Continues to have feelings for Melissa (Inkarnit mentions that he’s been gone a lot, nettie agrees)
Inkarnit:
* Tries to poke at Punman disappearing, mentioning that he’s going up the radar.
* Begins poking at Colin, who pokes back.
* Tells Colin that he has “Tunnel vision” for him.
* Tells me on my way out that Colin’s game resembles his Parks and Rec game, says that if I’m not willing to look, that I’m going to fly up his list.
* Makes claim that at least one of Guy’s voters HAS to be a wolf. (Is rebuffed by Nettie and ZG, and Colin notes that when he poked him, he had a disproportionally large reaction)
* Misses the rule that the neutral has to hit three different people.
* Is noted by DP to be playing on previous games “gotcha, you’re a wolf” moves.
* Backs off when Punman calls him on his suspicion, saying only that “(he’s) not aiming at (him) so much as trying to get (him) to engage.”
KG:
* Says that he didn’t vote for Guy because he was new and we hadn’t really heard enough from him to get an idea of where he was thinking.
* Calls wolves dumb
* Rejects drink order (his third) – Inkarnit tries to subtley twist this.
* Notes that it’s “just as important to find villagers and it is to find wolves” regarding drink choice. (dg seconds)
Colin:
* Fancied an Inkarnit vote
* Mentions that Inkarnit does a lot of arguing about how he appears to the village and that he is not concerned with any suspicion that has been thrown his way.
* Thinks Inkarnit, TDO, and DP are wolves (or not)
* Throws out Punman, TDO and DP as his top three. Mentions that Melissa is on his radar. (TDO has a reasoned argument with him, Punman says that he’s a villager because he’s always a villager. Says Melissa and TDO’s ideas for everyone to drink are sketchy)
* Says that he’s satisfied with TDO, still not satisfied with Punman and DP
DG:
* Mentions that he took a drink day one.
* Says KG is very unlikely to be a wolf.
* Posts drink summary. Shortly after, says that blanket drink rejections cause the village seer useless.
Melissa:
* Says that she voted Inkarnit because he was being wolfy.
* Subtley hints that villagers should be drinking more.
* Points out that the neutral winning is good for the village, because it narrows the focus.
* Believes Beezy and Inkarnit are wolf partners.
* Mentions that Punman is non-resent, and not particulrly helpful when he is present. Also mentions that Colin is focused on trying to look like he’s hunting, but actually isn’t. Backs off on Inkarnit.
* Got into it with Beezy.
* Posts list with Inkarnit, Punman, and TDO as top picks
* Mentions that I voted for an easy mark before leaving (this is true, but he is, in my opinion, the wolfiest person here. that’s still true, btw)
ZG:
* Asks if there is a consensus that the village drinks and the seer doesn’t. DP replies to this, noting that it makes the seer a target if he doesn’t accept a drink as well. ZG asks if this means that the village shouldn’t accept drinks.
* Believes that the Melissa/Inkarnit fighting is as much a cover as Beezy/Inkarnit togetherness
Buxtonlovah:
* Is mentioned by Will to have voted without logic and was given a pass because new.
* Votes ZG. Has weird feeling.
TDO:
* Confirms that he was silenced on day one. Suspects Inkarnit of being a wolf.
* Catches up and declares that the wolves seem to be Inkarnit, ZG, and Beezy. The Inkarnit thing seems to be because Inkarnit jumped him , ZG because he’s only talking when looked at, Beezy, because of her unpopular stance on Teetotaling (Pun says he might be a wolf who was silenced day one)
* Suggested by Beezy to be a wolf. Comes at it reasonably with some pretty good analysis.
* Weirdly notes when he votes Inkarnit that “Him or ZG, but if I vote ZG right now it’s going to look like I’m voting for peeps who vote me”
Nettiebarron:
* Regrets choice of Guy over Inkarnit
* Votes Punman (quietness), with Inkarnit (defensiveness) as backup
For the record, the seer’s list was as follows:
1. SCB
2. Colin
3. TDO
4. DG
5. inkarnit
6/7. punman, Nettie
8. Buxton
9. Melissa
10. ZG
11. nibbish
12. KG
Given that he didn’t peek me, yet put me near the bottom of his list (KG made bottom because he was likely peeked) and put a confirmed villager as top wolf pick, I don’t know how much this actually helps us.
March 18, 2015 at 8:13 pm
nibbish
My List, Most to Least Wolfy
* Inkarnit
I’ve been saying it since day one, and I still think it’s the right vote. He’s been defensive, overly quick to jump on fairly minor things, and hasn’t actually brought that much real analysis to the table.
* Punman
That first post on day two was weird. That’s obviously not all I’m going on here, though. He was on the wrong side of the tee-totaling debate. He’s avoided actually discussing much of anything resembling wolf hunting, while avoiding people’s concerns about him. I’m definitely not going to crow about playing time (jobs and life are full) but the other concerns need to be addressed.
* Colin
I’m not good at reading Colin. His main “tell” isn’t of a lot of use to us right yet. He fought Inkarnit all day, then backed off and voted Beezy. I honestly came into the Beezy thing with hindsight, so I can’t say how I would’ve voted in the heat of the moment, but after being on Inkarnit all day, and Inkarnit not saying anything that I thought was particularly redemptive, why the Beezy switch?
* ZG – There have been fleeting moments where he’s brought up decent points, but they’ve usually been points that have been elucidated upon in more depth by other people. That can be fledgling villager or wolf. I’m 50/50
* Buxtonlovah
This is probably too high. He’s too new to have a read on him. If he is a wolf, he’ll probably trip up later.
* DG
He’s been quiet. I know I just said that that didn’t matter, and he’s had reasons. I just have no read on him.
* NettieBarron
Not much of a read on her, either.
* Melissa
I mean, I guess she MIGHT not be the neutral, but I’d be surprised.
* TDO
Has provided reasoned analysis and original ideas. I don’t agree with all of them (this last “all three wolves set a trap and then caught themselves in it” theory doesn’t hold a lot of water, in my opinion, but it’s something, anyway.
* KG
Pretty much a certian villager
March 18, 2015 at 8:20 pm
daneekasghost
The only thing that gives me pause about ZG is that he says he was peeked by a seer and then the seer put him 10th on his list.
Meaningless? Possibly, but I’d put buxtonlovah higher on the list. BL has pointed at Guy, ZG, and beezy in two days that I saw. If I take the ZG/seer connection at face value then that’s 3 villagers. I’m not going to vote for him, but I’m at least a little suspicious.
March 18, 2015 at 8:22 pm
kg2005
If I’m a confirmed villager then ZG almost has to be as well.
March 18, 2015 at 8:28 pm
nibbish
No, because no one would have denied it if ZG was peeked by a wolf seer, either. I’d bump him lower, but it’s only a sure thing if he had managed to be peeked by two seers.
But yeah, I’d bump him below Nettie on the list based on this. Spots 4 through 7 moved around a lot when I put this together.
March 18, 2015 at 8:23 pm
nibbish
Eh, that’s true.
For the record, here was Will’s accompanying text.
“Seems to have been peeked by a seer earlier. No one has refuted it. That screams villager to me unless the wolves are throwing their peeks away.”
March 18, 2015 at 8:25 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
You’re saying Will basically told us, straight up, that he’d peeked and confirmed ZG a villager. Handy.
March 18, 2015 at 8:25 pm
daneekasghost
I’m not ready to say that quite yet. Your case is helped by the loss of todahshy and the still absent 5th drink from day 1. ZG’s peeking by the seer is less clear that it’s the villager and not wolf seer.
March 18, 2015 at 8:26 pm
daneekasghost
This was supposed to be a response to kg.
March 18, 2015 at 8:25 pm
buxtonlovah
hell i’d love to be a wolf first time in. I think it’d be easier than being the new villager to town…but i’m a villager, no doubt in that.
March 18, 2015 at 8:26 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
I was a wolf my first time. It was not easier.
March 18, 2015 at 8:13 pm
Inkarnit
Not sure who to vote for here. I thought neutral was better than villager, but everyone’s looking at me. I’m going to go back to Joe. Nothing he’s been saying makes any sense and what little he does contribute is worthless.
vote joe
March 18, 2015 at 8:24 pm
Colin
I could go for this actually. I’ve had my eye on joe for a couple days and he’s not adding much, and what he is adding isn’t flying with me. I’m just not sure that I don’t want to see you die first.
March 18, 2015 at 8:22 pm
buxtonlovah
ok. I’ve read through this again. I suck at making any conclusions from this. I want to vote karn , but I’ve got no solid evidence. i think i’m being sucked in by the entertainment value of his posts and ensuing arguments. Melissa to me seems like the neutral as noted. punman – maybe. colin gives me a creepy feelin so…for at least the next 20 min.
vote colin
March 18, 2015 at 8:25 pm
kg2005
That creepy feeling he gives off is consistent whether he’s a wolf or not.
March 18, 2015 at 8:26 pm
Colin
touche
March 18, 2015 at 8:24 pm
kg2005
One thing I remember reading and dismissing and want to talk about before I almost certainly die tonight is the idea that the silencing wolf is a newb. That doesn’t make any sense. I’m guessing the wolves would determine together who the silencer should choose.
March 18, 2015 at 8:25 pm
Colin
I hope you’re around tomorrow. we can have a fight or something.
March 18, 2015 at 8:25 pm
TDO
nibs provides a lot of good info and i just don’t see a wolf going into THAT much detail, and hearing responses to my zany 3 wolf ploy i’m going to back off of that, but i think there is 1-2 wolves in that mix.
I’m ready to go back to inkarnit for the vote but dont want to push someone to ending the night too soon, so im going to wait unless someone I’m comfortable with, KG or Nibs tell me to post my vote.
March 18, 2015 at 8:26 pm
Colin
I’m for inkarnit or joe tonight. Or you. take your pick.
March 18, 2015 at 8:28 pm
kg2005
I’m leaning more Joe than inkarnit.
March 18, 2015 at 8:28 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
Nibbs makes a very good case for Joe. I gotta admit.
March 18, 2015 at 8:30 pm
Colin
well. I trust you, KG.
March 18, 2015 at 8:28 pm
Inkarnit
Not me. We can’t afford to lynch a villager now. Look at Joe’s game guys.
March 18, 2015 at 8:28 pm
spookymilk
As always, remember that I am not saying anything about what anyone’s saying, but:
I was a wolf the first time. Which was THE FIRST time. It was emotionally draining.
March 18, 2015 at 8:29 pm
daneekasghost
I was a wolf the first time too. I was AWFUL. It is hilarious to go back and read.
March 18, 2015 at 8:31 pm
buxtonlovah
really? i’d much rather be a known commodity to 2 other people than a completely unknown to 12 (or whatever we started with).
March 18, 2015 at 8:30 pm
kg2005
I lasted 5 days my first time as a wolf. I think by the end I was lying to coworkers by force of habit.
March 18, 2015 at 8:31 pm
Colin
my last game as a wolf I lied to my wife, super obvious like, for no reason. She kinda glared at me and I was, like, “it’s the werewolf, baby.”
March 18, 2015 at 8:32 pm
spookymilk
I remember wondering, after the first couple of games, if people in my real life were lying to me about meaningless shit. It was so weird.
March 18, 2015 at 8:32 pm
todahshy
I did pretty well my first time as a wolf and then a garbage immunity idol ruined it all.
March 18, 2015 at 8:33 pm
spookymilk
Yeah. Ridiculous game, that.
March 18, 2015 at 8:33 pm
The Dread Pirate
*** DEAD ***
My first wolf-turn (The Parish) was insane. I was this close to pulling it off, but I think I F5’d a billion times a day. Damn you, TAG!
*** REDEADED ***
March 18, 2015 at 8:35 pm
spookymilk
My capturing of you is my proudest village move ever, but it ne’er would have been possible without TAG’s follies.
March 18, 2015 at 8:37 pm
kg2005
Oh man, I remember that now. I was completely stunned when you figured it out.
March 18, 2015 at 8:40 pm
spookymilk
You and Beau were the dead but extremely important other cogs in that machine. I love re-reading that game.
March 18, 2015 at 8:43 pm
The Dread Pirate
*** DEAD, AND I PROMISE TO SHUT UP AFTER THIS ***
I’m still perturbed that Beau was able to use his moderator powers to edit his post.
*** REDEADED ***
March 18, 2015 at 8:53 pm
Colin
That was my proudest modding moment ever… The whole game, I mean.
March 18, 2015 at 8:36 pm
nibbish
Oof. Naughty/Nice. Spent a full day arguing with Kelly, having not really slept the night before because werewolf.
March 18, 2015 at 8:38 pm
spookymilk
Heh heh. Got you to concede and casually went on a beer run. I remember that. I got a Christmastime brew just to celebrate.
March 18, 2015 at 8:40 pm
nibbish
I am shocked that I played again after that.
Then I got eaten night one as the seer. That was almost a relief after the game I’d had the time before.
March 18, 2015 at 8:38 pm
daneekasghost
Oh yeah, the nights at the end of the game as a wolf are fantastic.*
*They are not fantastic.
March 18, 2015 at 8:32 pm
nettiebarron
I can get behind a Vote Joe
March 18, 2015 at 8:35 pm
Colin
I hear melissa is pretty easy to get behind, too…
March 18, 2015 at 8:35 pm
Colin
too much ?
March 18, 2015 at 8:36 pm
nibbish
Not enough?
March 18, 2015 at 8:37 pm
spookymilk
NOT ENOUGH
March 18, 2015 at 8:38 pm
Colin
beautiful.
March 18, 2015 at 8:41 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
I blame Spooky for this. Jesus.
March 18, 2015 at 8:35 pm
kg2005
Since there’s kind of a nesting mess up there, my defense of ZG as super likely villager:
Will is very quick to remember and point out that he was peeked.
March 18, 2015 at 8:41 pm
nibbish
Yeah, he is. It might not exonerate him, but it moves him down the list far enough to be irrelevant to wolf hunting concerns, I would say.
March 18, 2015 at 8:43 pm
daneekasghost
So it’s 3-1 – Inkarnit or Joe?
March 18, 2015 at 8:47 pm
Colin
Yeah. Let’s do joe. I’m getting into my mean drunk phase. Jesus we’ve been in this f***ing bar for days now and I’ve only been offered one lousy drink. This place is dead, let’s check out the party in the hills.
March 18, 2015 at 8:43 pm
spookymilk
Seventeen minutes. Vote or don’t. NBD, right?
.
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..
buxtonlovah voting for Colin
Colin voting for Inkarnit -1
daneekasghost
Inkarnit voting for joepunman -3
joepunman voting for Inkarnit -2
Kg2005
MelissaD voting for Inkarnit
nettiebarron voting for joepunman
Nibbish
TDO
Zee German
March 18, 2015 at 8:50 pm
Zee German
Well hell, they’re voting for each other. Pretty unlikely they’re both wolves.
Inkarnit’s been flailing about after everything. I just can’t imagine doing that as a wolf, and it makes me not want to vote for him, but I don’t know if he could play it cool even if he wanted to.
March 18, 2015 at 8:45 pm
spookymilk
OH, SHIT! Turbination after this? We’ll talk right after. Focus on tonight, then I’ll put up a post.
March 18, 2015 at 8:50 pm
todahshy
Turbo?!?!
March 18, 2015 at 8:45 pm
TDO
Every night we see a flood of non vocal players come in to vote just to disappear again the next day.
March 18, 2015 at 8:46 pm
nibbish
Yeah, it’s…offputting.
March 18, 2015 at 8:47 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
Nibbs, convince me Joe is a better option than Inkarnit.
March 18, 2015 at 8:48 pm
nibbish
I don’t know if I can. Inkarnit was still my number one. Does someone have something else for me? Am I missing something?
March 18, 2015 at 8:46 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
If you read through Day 2, you’d avoid talking to us, too.
March 18, 2015 at 8:46 pm
TDO
I’m good with joe or karn as i’ve said most of the day.
March 18, 2015 at 8:47 pm
daneekasghost
vote: inkarnit
I think it’s inkarnit. I’m reading his day 1 and 2 and he’s casting so much suspicion and pushing votes and then his reactions today are all over the place, from accusatory to conciliatory.
If I’m wrong, I think it’s Colin.
March 18, 2015 at 8:49 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
He immediately jumped on the Joe vote. Which is the one thing that is confusing me. It’s a terrible wolf play if they’re both wolves. Just throwin’ his pal under the bus.
March 18, 2015 at 8:50 pm
kg2005
Throwing my pals under the bus is my favorite wolf thing to do.
March 18, 2015 at 8:51 pm
daneekasghost
I prefer to stand by and watch them self-destruct.
/Hi Annette!
March 18, 2015 at 8:54 pm
nettiebarron
Oh yeah, it’s a spectacle, all right. Jerk.
March 18, 2015 at 8:51 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
I guess we do only have 10 minutes. Now’s the time for wolves to do their piling.
March 18, 2015 at 8:50 pm
Colin
Well, now I feel better about not voting Karn.
Ps you’re a wolf.
March 18, 2015 at 8:47 pm
kg2005
Vote Joe
Let’s get this party started.
March 18, 2015 at 8:50 pm
nettiebarron
More twerking, please.
March 18, 2015 at 8:51 pm
nibbish
Why do you think Joe over Karn?
March 18, 2015 at 8:52 pm
kg2005
Joe gave me very wolfy vibes yesterday. I’m not sure on Karn, but at least I know that Karn will continue to give us more to go on moving forward.
March 18, 2015 at 8:53 pm
kg2005
And honestly I think there’s a decent chance they’re both villagers, I just don’t know who else to pick on at this point.
March 18, 2015 at 8:49 pm
Colin
Unvote Karn vote joe
March 18, 2015 at 8:49 pm
TDO
Why the switch?
March 18, 2015 at 8:51 pm
Colin
Read my posts. Geez.
March 18, 2015 at 8:52 pm
Zee German
Vote inkarnit
March 18, 2015 at 8:52 pm
joepunman
Hey guys do me a solid. After you lynch me tonight, first thing tomorrow lynch Inkarnit. You’ll finally get a wolf. That is once I show up as villager. He’s been dodging and accusing all week. If he’s a villager too, then yer screwed.
March 18, 2015 at 8:53 pm
TDO
vote karn
March 18, 2015 at 8:53 pm
nibbish
Vote Inkarnit
Ugh. I like KG’s point on Punman, but I’ve had this sense since DAY ONE.
March 18, 2015 at 8:54 pm
daneekasghost
that’s 6.
March 18, 2015 at 8:56 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
I’ve declared him wolf since Day 1 and was told I have a hard on for Colin! Gah.
March 18, 2015 at 8:53 pm
buxtonlovah
aight, what’s this count now?
March 18, 2015 at 8:53 pm
spookymilk
Seven minutes.
.
..
,
buxtonlovah voting for Colin
Colin voting for joepunman -1
daneekasghost voting for Inkarnit
Inkarnit voting for joepunman -4
joepunman voting for Inkarnit -4
Kg2005 voting for joepunman
MelissaD voting for Inkarnit
nettiebarron voting for joepunman
Nibbish
TDO
Zee German voting for Inkarnit
March 18, 2015 at 8:53 pm
daneekasghost
5-4, inkarnit in the lead. nibbish to vote. BL on Colin.
March 18, 2015 at 8:54 pm
TDO
i think karn is in the klink
March 18, 2015 at 8:54 pm
spookymilk
Inkarnit has been hauled off to jail. Talk for six minutes, or don’t. But that’s the lynch.
March 18, 2015 at 8:55 pm
kg2005
Eh, I guess I’m fine with this. Colin2 has bit me in the ass before.
March 18, 2015 at 8:58 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
I want to make an innuendo out of this, but I’m not sure I have to.
March 18, 2015 at 8:58 pm
kg2005
Our safe word is “beef dongle”.
March 18, 2015 at 8:59 pm
Colin
I’ll make an innuen…
Your innuend…
You…
Um. Innuendo.
March 18, 2015 at 8:56 pm
TDO
Guys, as I said today and pre game sign ups. Tommorrow will be spotty for me. I’ll be active when I can but I’m traveling most of the day. If I die tonight please focus on what i’ve said. Theres some odd crap in there, but a lot of solid stuff too.
March 18, 2015 at 8:57 pm
Colin
U need more fiber
March 18, 2015 at 8:57 pm
spookymilk
Final Voting.
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.
.
buxtonlovah voting for Colin
Colin voting for joepunman -1
daneekasghost voting for Inkarnit
Inkarnit voting for joepunman -4
joepunman voting for Inkarnit -6
Kg2005 voting for joepunman
MelissaD voting for Inkarnit
nettiebarron voting for joepunman
Nibbish voting for Inkarnit
TDO voting for Inkarnit
Zee German voting for Inkarnit
You’re still good to talk until I call it at the hour. Just getting this out of the way.
March 18, 2015 at 8:57 pm
TDO
I lol’d at everyone talking about how they got in real life as wolves a few paragraphs above. Good stuff.
March 18, 2015 at 8:58 pm
spookymilk
And hey, stay tuned for a possible Turbination.
March 18, 2015 at 8:59 pm
kg2005
I don’t know about you guys, but I’m taking out an extremely high priced life insurance policy right now.
March 18, 2015 at 9:00 pm
spookymilk
IT IS NIGHT
March 18, 2015 at 9:02 pm
kg2005
Good, I was uncomfortable with all the day drinking.
March 18, 2015 at 9:02 pm
kg2005
I mean… ***SLEEPING***
March 18, 2015 at 9:03 pm
spookymilk
Inkarnit was standing up on the bar, yelling out at the crowd, but they were too loud and apathetic to hear.
“Hey. Everyone. A vote for me is a vote for an innocent!”
meat’s ears perked up, but nothing happened.
“I’m a changeling. TDO was the seer,” Inkarnit continued, in a nod to the Star Trek game. Somewhere far away, DK’s ears perked up, but since he wasn’t there, whatever.
“Here’s a picture of me at a hospital to prove I’m at a hospital. It’s great cover,” Inkarnit shouted. It was clear he was a wolf, but nobody cared.
“Guys, I’m a wolf,” Wolfson said. With that, a handful of people took the bait and killed him. Holy shit, he was a wolf!
Guy Patterson(day 1, villager, welcomed poorly)todahshy(night 1, Angel Face, wasn’t wearing green)beezypoof(day 2, villager, apathetically asphyxiated)The Dread Pirate(night 2, Green Eyes, too cool for school)Inkarnit(day 3, Quiet Sunday, yeah)buxtonlovah
Colin
daneekasghost
joepunman
Kg2005
MelissaD
nettiebarron
Nibbish
TDO
Zee German
Final two wolves, kill someone. We’ll start either early or even earlier tomorrow.
March 18, 2015 at 9:15 pm
spookymilk
Wasn’t there call for a turbo game? Post is up, dudes. Happening now, if we can get more than THREE of us.