HALL OF CHAMPIONS
SPOOKYMILK SURVIVOR
I: Rachel “The Double-Dealer” Flynn
II: Ryan “The Snake” Fossum
III: Patrick “The Gentleman” Kozicky
IV: Brienne “The Submitter” Maner
V: Rusty “The Porn Star” Greene
VI: Brooks “The Unlikely Hero” Maki
VII: William “The Soulful” Schuth
VIII: Brooks “The Survivor” Maki
IX: Zack “The Ice Cream Man” Sauvageau
X: Pete “The Vacuum Cleaner” Bruzek
Turbo: Brooks “The 1956-1979 Montreal Canadiens” Maki
XI: Matt “The Cold-Hearted Motherf*&^er” Novak
All-Stars (XII): Andy “The Quiet Man” Rustleund
XIII: Sarah “Clarence’s Hope” Bizek
XIV: Dan “The Professional” Kautz
XV: Christina “Assault And” Pepper
XVI: Matt “The First-Time Player” Novak
XVII: Stacy “Saintly Patience” Snell
XVIII: Brian “Checkmate” David
XIX: Annette “Eammon for the Top” Barron
XX: Daniel “Neville “Smash “Hardware” Hardwood” Longbottom” Caouette
XXI: Pete “The Comeback Kid” Bruzek
XXII: Dan “The Even More Professional” Kautz
XXIII: Melissa “Don’t You (Forget About Me)” David
XXIV: Stacy “Fucking” Snell
GODS AND MORTALS
I: Dragging Rivet’s Name Through the Mud One Last Time: Matt Novak (Ultragrandpa) and Michael Rivet (Friph Flipher-Fiph)
II: Bahambo Number 5: Pete “Triple Crown” Bruzek and Michelle “Single Tiara…So Far” Pratt
BIG BROTHER
I: Brooks “Oh, for the Love of God” Maki
II: Michael “#DDB” Rivet
III: Pete “Fortune’s Fool” Bruzek
IV: Erin “All Seven and We’ll Watch Them Fall” Leslie
V: Jake “Littlefinger” Elliott
FALL, CAESAR
2014: Brooks “The Creator” Maki
2015: Matt “The Artist” Novak
2016: Matt “Waited Them Out” Novak
2017: Annette “I Would’ve Voted for You” Barron
THE ROYAL RUMBLE
2013: #21 Greg “The Gallant Glutton of Greatness” Johnson
2014: #29 Jonathon “Big Papa” Pope
2015: #8 Christina “Am I in This?” Pepper
2016: #22 Annette “No Backs Stabbed” Barron
2017: #30 Bernice “The Vulture” Nicaise
2018: #17 Carrie “Solid Gold” Bard
2019: #16 Jake “The Jabroni” Elliott
PLAY WITH THE PROSE
(Writing, non-elimination)
I: Sarah “Centipede Face” Johnson
II: Sarah “The Johnson Eliminator” Wreisner
III: Colin “Lonely Old Moon” Woolston
IV: Melissa “Not Sidebar Material” Diamond
V: Sama “No Family Reunions” Smith
VI: Sarah “Tumor Face” Wreisner
VII: John “Cult Following” Wreisner
VIII: Joshua “Peed the Bed” Longman
VIII: Annette “Oh, Right, That’s Who Won” Barron
WEREWOLF (most recent)
Werewolf Stats Spreadsheet
PUZZLE CHALLENGE
I (Pure): Matthew “The Obsessor” Gilman
I (Power): Kelly “The Novak-Destroyer” Wells
DIPLOMACY
I: Matt “Exploiter of Worlds” Novak (France)
Casa de Leche 
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April 7, 2015 at 9:01 am
Beau
Got this up sooner than I thought I could.
April 7, 2015 at 9:16 am
joepunman
see kids, this is why you shouldn’t drink
THE MORE YOU KNOW
April 7, 2015 at 9:16 am
Inkarnit
Well on the plus side, George, Lorraine, and Marty live.
April 7, 2015 at 9:21 am
todahshy
But how will we go on without the MAYOR?!?!?!
April 7, 2015 at 9:22 am
spookymilk
We’ve got Goldie Wilson waiting in the wings.
April 7, 2015 at 9:24 am
todahshy
I think I am most surprised by the fact that you survived night 1.
April 7, 2015 at 9:30 am
spookymilk
I’m not. The wolves saw me as leading the charge for nibbish and kept me alive so we’d talk about it.
April 7, 2015 at 9:35 am
todahshy
I can see that. Plus with 2 angel saves it makes it risky to go after the usual suspects at night. Maybe that explains the joe kill? Just seems odd because he was generating a reasonable amount of heat on day 1.
April 7, 2015 at 9:37 am
Inkarnit
Yeah I think we put a pin in spooky and look elsewhere for the moment. I’m guessing the wolves weren’t involved with nibbish dying.
April 7, 2015 at 9:22 am
todahshy
Hey, what a shock I was wrong yesterday on my hunch 😦
April 7, 2015 at 9:25 am
TDO
I’ve got my eyes on those who voted nibs yesterday. Why did each of you vote him? I honestly didn’t see anything to warrant such vote. I also feel bad, seems like he dies day 1 all the time, on day 1 next game can we not kill nibbs unless we are definitely cetain? Would suck to sign up for the game and never play past day one.
Why Joe for the wolf kill, he was quiet, was that it?
April 7, 2015 at 9:27 am
Inkarnit
I know that as a wolf, we sometimes randomly chose the night kill when there were no leads to go on. Could be that.
April 7, 2015 at 9:27 am
The Dread Pirate
I thought punman’s vote for nibbish was the most suspicious, so shows you what I know.
April 7, 2015 at 9:30 am
Inkarnit
He had 4 votes. Only 3 still alive. Could a wolf be among them? Or did they stay away because the village did the job for them?
April 7, 2015 at 10:29 am
MelissaDiamondPhillips
He didn’t die on Day 1 last time. He was a wolf and lived.
April 7, 2015 at 9:25 am
Inkarnit
So spooky, how do you feel about wrongly accusing nibbish?
April 7, 2015 at 9:29 am
spookymilk
Apathetic. It’s the first day so the accused is probably going to be wrong. I have some ideas now though. Will be reading the whole day again to see if they hold up.
April 7, 2015 at 9:31 am
spookymilk
And if that’s a setup, it’s not very subtle.
April 7, 2015 at 9:34 am
Inkarnit
Not a setup but you knew the questioning was coming. Wanted to get your feelings on it out there for evaluation right away. I’m inclined to believe a wolf wasn’t involved in the lynching on day 1 but it’s prudent to investigate all avenues.
April 7, 2015 at 9:48 am
spookymilk
I knew the questioning was coming, but I would have expected it in a less setuppy manner. After reading yesterday I like you and TDO for wolves. Not sure about the third. kg or ZG or DG, maybe.
April 7, 2015 at 9:48 am
daneekasghost
someone with a G anyway…
April 7, 2015 at 9:49 am
daneekasghost
FWIW, TDO stuck out to me as well.
April 7, 2015 at 9:55 am
Inkarnit
Yeah it’s not me. You say you can recognize my village game, so get to recognizing. I did vote TDO but I’m not sure if I saw anything overtly Wolfy. I’ll take another look. I could see a DG/Spooky wolf alliance that acts purposefully horribly. That would be effective. But I’ll look when I get to work.
April 7, 2015 at 9:57 am
The Dread Pirate
“Someone with a G,” yet spooky ignored bhiggum of all people.
April 7, 2015 at 9:57 am
spookymilk
I said I recognize your wolf game, not your village game. In your villager game it’s not that you came off as a villager, it’s that you never quite came off as a wolf.
April 7, 2015 at 10:05 am
ZG
Somehow kg, DG and ZG get put in a list together every game.
April 7, 2015 at 10:12 am
daneekasghost
nuthin’ but a G thing.
April 7, 2015 at 9:44 am
kg2005
I was playing xbox with my roommate last night and then remembered “Werewolf!” I looked at the clock and it was 9:02. Oh well. I think today I’ll put a vote down early just so I don’t accidentally forget again.
April 7, 2015 at 9:46 am
todahshy
The acceptability of this excuse hinges solely on what game you were playing.
April 7, 2015 at 9:48 am
kg2005
Destiny. I’ve put an unacceptable amount of time into that game.
April 7, 2015 at 9:50 am
todahshy
Sorry, the correct answer was there is no acceptable game because it is an xbox.
April 7, 2015 at 9:51 am
kg2005
How do you know it’s not a Playstation?
April 7, 2015 at 9:51 am
todahshy
I’m the seer!!
April 7, 2015 at 9:52 am
todahshy
Crap!!!!
April 7, 2015 at 9:53 am
todahshy
Or it could have been the fact that you said this “I was playing xbox with my roommate”
April 7, 2015 at 9:53 am
kg2005
So I did.
April 7, 2015 at 9:56 am
daneekasghost
You just believe things that kg says in werewolf? Oh, todah, you have so much to learn.
April 7, 2015 at 9:58 am
spookymilk
Somewhere kg is laughing maniacally, going “they’ll never guess it’s a TurboGrafx 16.”
April 7, 2015 at 10:00 am
kg2005
It was a bitch to get Destiny to run on that.
April 7, 2015 at 10:48 am
Mr. Strickland
That’s extra credit for you, young man. Well done.
April 7, 2015 at 9:48 am
todahshy
Well, we’ve covered spooky why don’t we put some heat on another nibbish voter.
vote Melissa
April 7, 2015 at 9:55 am
spookymilk
This feels setuppy too (I’ll try not to find setups everywhere, but hey, it happens). Melissa barely spoke. She made a nib vote early and never came back.
Eh, I suppose there’s no downside in hearing from her, now that I type all of that out loud.
April 7, 2015 at 9:58 am
todahshy
Setuppy? It’s 11am on Day 2. I’m pretty sure my vote will move from here once she shows up. The fact that she barely spoke is one of the reasons why I’d like to hear from her. She usually isn’t that way.
Plus I just like to get a vote out there early so Brooks doesn’t yell at me.
April 7, 2015 at 10:03 am
ZG
There was talk of illness yesterday for Melissa.
April 7, 2015 at 9:59 am
kg2005
Your ideas about setups sound setupy.
April 7, 2015 at 10:00 am
daneekasghost
April 7, 2015 at 10:34 am
MelissaDiamondPhillips
Yeah. I wasn’t feeling up to anything yesterday for various reasons. Also: I did state that I was going to be overly busy this week (see: whatever email chain that was). Also, I voted for Nibbs mostly jokingly (because he was the wolf last time and because he has a beard…and wolves have beards. Proven fact. Another proven fact: NON-wolves apparently have beards, too. Who knew!?).
Anyway, I’m gonna not be around as much today, either, due to non-stop meetings. Oh man. Meetings.
April 7, 2015 at 10:38 am
todahshy
Ok, enjoy your “meetings”.
April 7, 2015 at 10:40 am
kg2005
I have “meetings” this afternoon as well. I’m going to “meet” with my team at work to discuss current projects and then I’m going to “meet” with the vet to get my dog a booster.
April 7, 2015 at 10:42 am
Inkarnit
What about the “meeting” where you turn of us into “meat”?
April 7, 2015 at 10:53 am
kg2005
I don’t think meat would appreciate that.
April 7, 2015 at 10:24 am
ZG
What I’d like to know is: where is Mr. Strickland?
I brought an apple.
April 7, 2015 at 10:35 am
spookymilk
This friggin’ suckup.
April 7, 2015 at 10:39 am
bhiggum
I knew there was a good reason I voted for him yesterday.
April 7, 2015 at 10:47 am
Mr. Strickland
is that liquor I smell, Wells?
April 7, 2015 at 11:01 am
spookymilk
…yes.
April 7, 2015 at 11:02 am
Mr. Strickland
I’m watching you, son.
If I have to pull you into the closet again, I will. I don’t care what your father said. You need to learn discipline, or you’re going to turn out like every other damn slacker in this town.
April 7, 2015 at 10:39 am
Inkarnit
ZG has had his nose so far up Strickland’s butt… I wonder if this is a way for a wolf to hide.
April 7, 2015 at 10:43 am
ZG
I considered how it could be percieved…but once I got a couple comments in, I figured I’d roll with it for entertainment’s sake.
I never got detention in school. Not about to start now.
April 7, 2015 at 10:50 am
Mr. Strickland
Watch your mouth son, or you’ll find yourself in detention. You’ll never amount to more than a row of beans in this town with language like that coming out of your pie hole.
April 7, 2015 at 10:54 am
Inkarnit
I apologize sir.
April 7, 2015 at 10:46 am
Mr. Strickland
Now here’s an example of a young man who knows how to go places in the world.
Well done.
April 7, 2015 at 11:03 am
TDO
vote spooky
He thinks general questioning of peeps who voted nebbish is setuppy. I want him to squirm more.
April 7, 2015 at 11:14 am
spookymilk
More than what?
Inkarnit didn’t ask a “general question.” You saw how it was worded, yes?
April 7, 2015 at 11:22 am
spookymilk
The one comment that sticks out to me today besides Inkarnit’s weirdly-worded question is this from todahshy, to me:
“I think I am most surprised by the fact that you survived night 1.”
It seems like a bunch of people think I’m a wolf, or at least could be, so todah’s assertion under the assumption I’m not is interesting.
April 7, 2015 at 11:22 am
spookymilk
I still haven’t subscribed to comments.
April 7, 2015 at 11:25 am
todahshy
I’m just saying every game I’ve played with you other tham the weird role claim game you have died night 1 as a villager. These things stick out to me (like my Brooks day 3) theory. Is it bad werewolf play? Probably. But it’s what I notice.
April 7, 2015 at 11:28 am
spookymilk
Every time you’ve played? Huh.
April 7, 2015 at 11:37 am
todahshy
Yes. “With you.” That’s what I said.
Plus, you yourself yesterday were talking like you thought you were going to die for sure so why are you surprised that me and others would not feel the same.
April 7, 2015 at 11:42 am
spookymilk
But I didn’t die. If I weren’t me, I’d wonder why, so your comment stuck out. Often by day two I’ve got some way of proving (or getting near it) that I’m not a wolf, but this time there’s nothing in my favor that really sticks out, other than to say my day one was business as usual.
April 7, 2015 at 11:29 am
Inkarnit
I’m pretty sure what he was saying is that surviving night 1 makes you suspect because he expected villager spooky to die.
As for my question, I really don’t see how it was weirdly worded but whatever. I think you’re just playing with semantics there. The bottom line was that I wanted to hear your reaction to nibbish’s villagerness. We got that.
April 7, 2015 at 11:30 am
spookymilk
If you can’t immediately see why that looks like a setup, I have to say I’m starting to see why everyone thinks you’re wolfy regardless of role.
April 7, 2015 at 11:33 am
Inkarnit
Since we’re on day 2 and the only thing we have to go by is the surviving 3 people of 4 on the one dead villager, I don’t see it as setupy at all. Obviously the 3 that voted for nibbish are suspect. I did state that I don’t necessarily think a wolf was involved on night 1 but it’s the only place we have to investigate right now so it should be. This leaves you, DG, and Melissa under questioning.
April 7, 2015 at 11:36 am
spookymilk
And you asked exactly: me.
Here’s what I think is weird about your question, and only now is it hitting me: it seems like kind of an accusation, but the language is worded in a way that makes it sound like you know I’m a villager getting it wrong and not a wolf setting up nibbish.
Damn, man. I like you a lot as a wolf right now. I’m going to have to keep turning that over in my head.
April 7, 2015 at 11:44 am
ZG
I’d say it’s just as likely there wasn’t a wolf among the nibbish votes as there being one. I would have thought joe, but that didn’t pan out.
We can question, because it’s possible, but I’m not going to be counting on it.
April 7, 2015 at 11:47 am
Inkarnit
Well TDO already covered the blanket question to all of the nibbish voters. And of those, you were the only one actually active at the time. So I posed my question to you, knowing I could get a quick response. You’re spending an awful lot of time focusing on that though and trying to redirect on me. I certainly don’t know you’re a villager, but I thought your actions and response sounded villagery. Now though, I’m not sure. I haven’t played with you more than the once but you didn’t seem to get tunnel vision as a villager. I’d like some of the veterans to analyze spooky here with what you know of him. Maybe he’s innocent but this kind of redirection smells funny to me.
April 7, 2015 at 11:49 am
spookymilk
Right now I don’t think there’s a wolf in there. nibs only had four on him and nobody got close enough for the wolves to care. The four nibs votes had barely any intent behind them, besides possibly mine, and even that was a thin, vain hope.
Inkarnit spent his last wolf game trying to pull wolves out of villager-piles, presenting only those as options. And yesterday he threw a vote at Rob, about whom nobody had said anything, when he knew or at least suspected it wouldn’t gain traction.
April 7, 2015 at 11:50 am
spookymilk
Right, right. You thought my answer was villagery but conveniently didn’t say it, and then posted again when you starting doubting again.
April 7, 2015 at 11:53 am
Inkarnit
Wait what? My vote on rob was becuase he hadn’t spoken yet. When he did, I moved it.
And I did say it:
Your misdirection is ridiculous here.
April 7, 2015 at 11:56 am
spookymilk
Stop with the “misdirection” bullshit. I think you’re a wolf so I’m commenting on why. I’m not here to play a little bitch in an interrogation room; I’m asking you questions as well. If you can’t handle being questioned, berate someone else.
…and then I’ll still berate you because I’ll still think you’re a wolf, so I guess it’s a wash.
April 7, 2015 at 12:07 pm
Inkarnit
That’s fine, but like I said above to todah, I wanted to put a pin in the idea of you being a wolf. I wasn’t feeling it wholeheartedly so wanted to focus elsewhere. You kept the dialogue going though which is why this whole discussion here. You went from a passing inquiry to nearly off the radar to near the top of the radar. Obviously you feel the same on me. Nothing more to gain from this line right now, so I’m going to look elsewhere rather than waste more time on this. I wish I had played with you more to really know how you play this game as both wolf and villager 😛
April 7, 2015 at 12:58 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
tl:dr
April 7, 2015 at 11:55 am
TDO
back from lunch. Spooky what I don’t understand is you say you don’t get why people thought you would die after 1 day, but you yourself made the same remarks yesterday, so why can you say those things but toda cannot?
And so you don’t think I’m focusing on you, Inkarnit is high on list right now, the guy’s been everywhere the last few days, quick to attack but no one has gone after him much outside of yourself.
April 7, 2015 at 11:58 am
spookymilk
I already answered that exact question, TDO. If most people were seeing the idea that I might be a wolf, and one made a somewhat declarative statement that I wasn’t, I found that interesting. todah’s response makes sense, but this is why I brought it up.
Last night when I said I’d be surprised to be alive today, it’s when I felt altogether too certain that nibbish was a wolf and we had him nailed. When I saw he wasn’t a wolf, I figured I’d probably be alive today unless they thought I had a role.
April 7, 2015 at 12:20 pm
The Dread Pirate
Wait, if the wolves thought you had a role, wouldn’t they try to kill you?
April 7, 2015 at 12:26 pm
Inkarnit
Yeah he said he thought he’d be alive because he caused nibbish to die, being a good target. So unless the wolves thought he had a role, they wouldn’t have killed him.
April 7, 2015 at 12:31 pm
The Dread Pirate
Oh duh. I somehow completely misread that.
April 7, 2015 at 12:01 pm
Inkarnit
I’m always high on people’s list. I’m a convenient target. And I was a wolf last game. But I’m not. I haven’t done anything wolfy this game at all as much as spooky is trying to say I have. And now you too TDO. I haven’t been quick to attack anyone. My question to spooky wasn’t even an attack but you’re making it one.
April 7, 2015 at 11:59 am
spookymilk
By the way, I think pun died because he pointed out that he thought it would be fun to find out the identities of the parents of Marty. So maybe they thought he was Marty.
April 7, 2015 at 12:08 pm
Inkarnit
Gonna go look at that now. That sounds like a valid reason, but I didn’t even realize he made that comment. He seemed pretty silent after starting off loud.
April 7, 2015 at 12:10 pm
Inkarnit
So you’re referring to:
This seemed pretty innocent to me. If a wolf thought this was joe alluding to something, I think that wolf was trying to read WAY too much.
April 7, 2015 at 12:13 pm
Inkarnit
I took this comment to mean nothing more than “when we find out George and Lorraine are KG and DG it’s going to be hilarious” or some such.
April 7, 2015 at 12:41 pm
spookymilk
In the absence of good reasons, wolves will use a bad one because at least it’s a reason. It’s obvious what he meant, but players have said similar things before to make it seem like they had no role.
Plus, pun didn’t say much period, so I found something that stuck out like that pretty quickly.
Or maybe they killed him to avoid an angel save.
April 7, 2015 at 12:10 pm
TDO
From what I read on the sign up (which I have to keep reverting too since I didn’t know if skinhead or mayor were special roles) it says the parents don’t know who they are.
April 7, 2015 at 12:12 pm
Guy Patterson
wow so late to the party… much to catch up on
April 7, 2015 at 12:15 pm
Inkarnit
Not so much. Mostly just me and spooky arguing.
April 7, 2015 at 12:36 pm
Mr. Strickland
That’s a tardy slip for you, Patterson.
April 7, 2015 at 12:13 pm
Beau
bhiggum
daneekasghost
Dread Pirate
Guy Patterson
Inkarnit
kg2005
Melissa (1)
rob
spookymilk (1)
TDO voting spooky
todahshy voting Melissa
Zee German
Hey, I think I managed not to screw this up. About 9 hours until night. 7 votes needed for majority. 2 hours and 45 minutes for Spooky to produce that picture.
April 7, 2015 at 12:32 pm
Inkarnit
Late day 1 votes that were meaningless:
April 7, 2015 at 12:34 pm
Inkarnit
TLDR;
rob votes Melissa at 8:55pm just to avoid a strike
TDO votes spooky at 8:51pm because he doesn’t get the nibbish pile
ZG votes Guy at 8:34pm “randomly” but it’s really a revenge vote against Guy’s random vote… this seems most meaningful of the pile to me.
April 7, 2015 at 12:37 pm
TDO
fair assessment and I still don’t get the nebbish pile. I’m not saying their are definite wolves in there, but where did we decide this was the best vote?
April 7, 2015 at 12:45 pm
Inkarnit
We didn’t. Only 4 people did. 4 just happened to be majority though.
April 7, 2015 at 12:52 pm
TDO
I still have suspicions about spooky, he just seems very defensive for no reason. And I never buy the this isn’t how I’m a wolf, so I’m a villager when anyone says that. If we could see when peeps were wolves based off past play we wouldn’t suck so bad as a village.
So Spooky and Karn are my top two suspects, though I don’t really have anything solid to go on. Us not reaching a majority and letting 4 be the top number makes me think maybe the wolves weren’t in on the vote, and spread their votes around other places which is why nothing got moved off of nibs.
April 7, 2015 at 12:55 pm
Inkarnit
Right, which is why I pointed out those late votes.
April 7, 2015 at 1:08 pm
spookymilk
I’m defending myself because I’m being attacked. That is the situation for someone who’s being attacked. I’m getting surly about it because Inkarnit is expecting me to bend over for him and doesn’t think I deserve to point fingers at him, because the poor li’l guy doesn’t take it very well.
April 7, 2015 at 1:10 pm
Inkarnit
I must have missed where I wasn’t taking it well. I’m not the one getting all worked up. I also never said anything about you bending over. I asked a simple question and you responded. Then you got all butthurt after the fact. Like I said before, I haven’t played werewolf with you enough to know where that behavior fits so I wanted to put a pin in it until veterans could analyze.
April 7, 2015 at 1:15 pm
spookymilk
Nobody else missed it. You claimed “misdirection” every time I went at you. That reeks of someone who can’t stand being questioned.
April 7, 2015 at 1:24 pm
Inkarnit
I haven’t heard anyone else say that my question was wolfy in any way. Except maybe TDO but not really sure what he was saying.
April 7, 2015 at 1:29 pm
spookymilk
It’s not so much wolfy as it is seriously contentious. If you’re a villager, you should probably start out a bit smoother than that.
April 7, 2015 at 1:16 pm
bhiggum
Yeah, that’s pretty much how spooky plays, wolf or villager. Not that I can ever tell which he is.
April 7, 2015 at 12:56 pm
Mr. Strickland
Attention please. May I have your attention please.
Will student TDO whatever the hell that means please report to the library after school at 3pm sharp for detention
TDO pulled his head off of his desk, toward the end of the message, his bleary, bloodshot eyes drifting this way and that, trying to lock on something. A green polka-dotted tie swam into focus, and above it the brilliantly polished head of Mr Strickland. In Mr Strickland’s extended right hand was a detention slip.
on the detention slip:
Let’s see if we can get you more in the habit of ACTUALLY doing your homework. If you think you ever want to amount to anything more than a small pile of dung in this town, you’d better shape up. For your punishment, you will study Werewolf, Return to the Speakeasy, and give a summary of that game. In particular, you will point out things that Colin Woolston did right in the game. Your summary must be at least 150 words.
April 7, 2015 at 1:23 pm
TDO
UGH, why does this have to be so much like real school was….and TDO is a nickname I received about 10 years ago on an online gaming site, It stands for “The Dirty One”.
Ugh, This really sucks for my punishment but I don’t want to be mod killed, I suppose I have til 3pm tomorrow to finish my report and just post it on tomorrow’s day?
April 7, 2015 at 1:29 pm
Mr. Strickland
You have until tomorrow morning to study the Return to the Speakeasy game, and provide a 150 word summary, pointing out everything I did right.
April 7, 2015 at 1:35 pm
TDO
….yes sir…
April 7, 2015 at 1:39 pm
bhiggum
Heh, perfect tone on the reply 🙂
April 7, 2015 at 1:51 pm
ZG
“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”
-George Santayana
History is important. I’m sure we could all learn something from the werewolf greats. I may go do this myself. Perhaps there will be extra credit…
April 7, 2015 at 1:55 pm
TDO
You want to do my homework for me???
April 7, 2015 at 12:58 pm
spookymilk
Ugh, I can’t get my image to post here. But there it is:
April 7, 2015 at 1:02 pm
spookymilk
Oh. Got it.
April 7, 2015 at 1:06 pm
Beau
Dang. You look quite a bit like Crispin Glover here.
April 7, 2015 at 1:09 pm
spookymilk
I’ve been told I do in general, actually, and I put a ton of crap in my hair to get it to stay. Wasteful? Hell, what price art?
April 7, 2015 at 1:21 pm
TDO
which one are you?
April 7, 2015 at 1:30 pm
spookymilk
I’m George, on the right. My brother is Biff. You obviously can’t tell here, but my brother is ripped, so with that being the case as well as my overall nerdiness, there was no reason to do it the other way around.
April 7, 2015 at 2:59 pm
daneekasghost
The one that looks most like Razor Shines!
April 7, 2015 at 1:13 pm
todahshy
HE’S QUESTIONING HIS GODS!!!
(would be my caption of this)
April 7, 2015 at 1:29 pm
rob
Alright guys – I just have a few minutes before my next meeting. Theories on why dg and spooky are alive.
– one of them was peeked last night and wasn’t a role
– the wolves want to set up a cover by having them suspiciously alive
– the wolves figure that one of them will be saved
– they are wolves
So far, there isn’t too much to go on, but spooky’s behavior is a bit odd. On one hand, it might be because he doesn’t really have a good defense (as he stated). In any event, it seems like something to keep in mind.
I’ll check back in in 30 minutes or so.
April 7, 2015 at 1:32 pm
spookymilk
I’m batting someone around with questions and calling them on it when they try to snake out of them, and I’m raging against loaded questions asked of me. I mean…this is really not odd for me at all, role regardless.
April 7, 2015 at 2:07 pm
rob
I guess what gets me is that you are much more aggressive or angry sounding than usual. I recall you as being a more cool, calculating player, so it sticks out. I don’t think it makes you a prime wolf suspect, but it does stick out a bit. It may actually be nice, because it’s polarizing and inkarnit is being pretty aggressive also.
At this point, polarizing and definite stances help the village, so I don’t think it’s a good move to vote for you.
April 7, 2015 at 1:37 pm
Mr. Strickland
So far, every bit of evidence against spooky has been “I don’t know if this is his wolf game or his villager game,” or “Spooky is behaving oddly, ” stated by someone who hasn’t played with him before or more than once.
I say this because I care about this town, and the last few towns I’ve been in have been full of slackers. This town has enough of them as it is.
Don’t be a slacker.
April 7, 2015 at 1:56 pm
ZG
I don’t think there’s anything odd in itself with what spooky’s doing, besides maybe continuing to reengage inkarnit. But I get the impression he’s a contentious sort anyhow.
Doesn’t mean he’s not a wolf, but not based on anything I’m seeing.
April 7, 2015 at 1:59 pm
todahshy
I’m leaning more towards point 3 right now. It’s a very similar situation as the My Little Pony game where Brooks could not kill spooky or I because one of use was guaranteed angel protection. With 2 angel saves per night and I think (please correct me if I’m wrong Beau) only Doc allowed to be saved once it would be very hard for the wolves to risk going after one of the usual suspects on day 1.
I think that is why they went after joe, was probably less of a risk that he would be protected.
April 7, 2015 at 1:52 pm
TDO
Mr Strickland Mr Strickland, can you confirm my detention is 3pm CENTRAL time for me?
April 7, 2015 at 1:58 pm
Beau
I will confirm.
April 7, 2015 at 1:59 pm
TDO
TY mysterious voice looking down on us.
April 7, 2015 at 2:02 pm
Beau
I’ve always looked down on you.
April 7, 2015 at 2:18 pm
TDO
Did everyone go to detention?
April 7, 2015 at 2:28 pm
todahshy
I’m about to be. Like yesterday, I’ll be gone for the next fair chunk.
April 7, 2015 at 2:37 pm
Inkarnit
Sorry was at lunch. And just got my replacement phone so was spending lunch getting it set up. I’m back now so can set it up while lurking here.
April 7, 2015 at 2:42 pm
TDO
Is it a black phone?
April 7, 2015 at 2:43 pm
Inkarnit
It is absolutely. The blackest.
April 7, 2015 at 2:59 pm
ZG
Why do we keep talking about the color of our phones?
And why are they always black?
April 7, 2015 at 3:09 pm
Inkarnit
What color is yours?
April 7, 2015 at 3:12 pm
daneekasghost
Inkarnit tried to give me tech support during an anonymous survivor game. He asked what kind of phone I had, and I told him it was a black one.
April 7, 2015 at 3:15 pm
Inkarnit
Funny… I didn’t remember that it was you. This was when you were, uh, Gropin’ The Wind right?
April 7, 2015 at 3:17 pm
daneekasghost
I was indeed.
April 7, 2015 at 3:19 pm
Inkarnit
I like that this joke went outside that game and has persisted.
April 7, 2015 at 2:37 pm
ZG
This happened yesterday afternoon, too. I asked the same question.
April 7, 2015 at 2:42 pm
TDO
So what are your thoughts so far on the game?
April 7, 2015 at 2:55 pm
ZG
It’s been very quiet, with very little to go on. That’s not an accusation, and I include myself, generally, but bhiggum, dg, DP, Guy, kg, Melissa, and rob have all been pretty quiet. Many with reasons that are perfectly legit. Just doesn’t give much to go on.
That, and for all our analysis in the last few games, about the only good wolf finds have come from slip-ups or actual logical deduction. Until we’re talking about who’s been seen or has what role…the clock ticks. I don’t know really what the right timing is on that, though.
April 7, 2015 at 3:05 pm
ZG
And with that, cue DG!…
April 7, 2015 at 3:07 pm
daneekasghost
Timing is one of my many strengths.
April 7, 2015 at 2:56 pm
daneekasghost
I’m amused that spooky has become the person of interest in the nibbish vote to the exclusion of all others.
To me inkarnit/spooky looks like two villagers squabbling.
TDO on the other hand, made sure to be known on the right side of the nibbish vote last night, and came out immediately talking about how a wolf was probably in on that vote.
If my read of spooky as a villager is correct. And if I am confident my assessment of my own role, that means that 3 of the 4 were villagers, with Melissa as an unknown.
TDO also immmediately came out trying to talk about what the wolves were thinking in killing punman, which is tempting for a wolf, especially if they had a particular framing reason for killing joe.
Granted, I haven’t seen TDO really try to frame anyone after that, and now he’s going to detention (which makes me think about Mr. Strickland’s win condition… but that’s not a productive discussion for villagers) but I don’t think we should forget about him as he goes quiet.
April 7, 2015 at 3:11 pm
bhiggum
TDO’s play has seemed off to me, too. I’m not so happy about him being popped into detention and silencing one of the few players who was actually around and conversing, but Mr. Strickland does what Mr. Strickland wants to do.
I’m curious about the timing of the nibbish votes- they were all early, right? Any of you three could have switched away, if you were wolves and didn’t want to be under scrutiny for being in on the lynching. I’m okay with clearing the three of you that are still alive and focusing elsewhere for today.
April 7, 2015 at 3:22 pm
Inkarnit
You bring up a good point for analysis. If the votes on nibbish were made early, by villagers, then the wolves would have never had any reason to pile anything onto him at all. The latest vote on him would be the only one that smelled wolfy, but that was joe. And Melissa was on him first. I think this nearly clears all the nibbish voters. It at least puts them really low in the speculation list.
April 7, 2015 at 3:42 pm
bhiggum
Yep, that’s my thinking. If there was even one wolf in there, I could have seen them jumping away from the nibbish vote well before the deadline.
April 7, 2015 at 4:18 pm
The Dread Pirate
To whom would they have jumped without raising suspicions?
Since none of us were moving our votes around, seems like the wolves would be just as likely to stay put even if locked in on an early nibbish vote.
April 7, 2015 at 4:27 pm
bhiggum
They could have gone anywhere- would have been better than taking scrutiny today as being one of the players in on the lynching, wouldn’t it? Especially when they killed joe that night and narrowed the targets down even more- I don’t know, I may be thinking about it backwards.
April 7, 2015 at 4:32 pm
The Dread Pirate
But the people who lynched nibbish seem to have already shrugged off any scrutiny, so again seems like it would have been more suspicious to switch votes. I’ll also reassess because it’s likely I’m thinking about it incorrectly.
April 7, 2015 at 4:37 pm
bhiggum
Ugh, this game- it made sense to me before that wolves would have switched. Now it makes sense that maybe a solo wolf on the nibbish pile wouldn’t have switched. I’m going to stick with my first gut feeling for now.
April 7, 2015 at 3:17 pm
Inkarnit
What’s funny is that my reason for voting him day 1 was purely based on statistics. I might have actually been right by accident. Can’t take any credit for analysis there though as I was purely going by the law of large numbers. That being said, you guys make good points. My top 3 candidates at the moment are ZG, TDO, and Spooky, but I’ll admit that there’s not much else to go on for the other players so that may not mean a whole lot.
April 7, 2015 at 3:10 pm
daneekasghost
vote: bhiggum I didn’t spend nearly enough time with a vote on him yesterday. He seems reluctant to enter analysis so far. Consider this a prod to do so.
April 7, 2015 at 3:12 pm
daneekasghost
ooh, it worked!
April 7, 2015 at 3:15 pm
Inkarnit
And we thought you were the one with the timing.
April 7, 2015 at 3:16 pm
daneekasghost
Well, not to be too modest, but I had to time the vote just right.
April 7, 2015 at 3:17 pm
Inkarnit
Touche.
April 7, 2015 at 3:18 pm
bhiggum
Seriously, dude.
April 7, 2015 at 3:19 pm
daneekasghost
OK, new reason. bhiggum hasn’t done any analysis that I can’t take credit for through some roundabout logic.
April 7, 2015 at 3:23 pm
Inkarnit
Way to give good reasoning for your vote. I approve.
April 7, 2015 at 3:43 pm
bhiggum
My comment was more in line with, “holy crap, great timing” than “I can’t believe you just said that”, just to be clear.
April 7, 2015 at 3:25 pm
Beau
bhiggum (1)
daneekasghost voting bhiggum
Dread Pirate
Guy Patterson
Inkarnit
kg2005
Melissa (1)
rob
spookymilk (1)
TDO voting spooky
todahshy voting Melissa
Zee German
I can barely keep up with you guys.
5.5 hours until night. 7 needed for Majority.
I’ll be activating the flying kangaroos for a while. Strickland runs a tight ship, though, so don’t try anything.
April 7, 2015 at 3:35 pm
Inkarnit
There’s not a lot to go on, but here’s my early day 2 analysis of each person:
bhiggum – not been around too much, but when he has he’s provided decent feedback. If a wolf, it’ll show later.
daneekasghost – similar to bhiggum, he’s providing helpful analysis as he always does. Unfortunately even as a wolf he gives good villager analysis. His proximity to the nibbish vote yesterday as early as it was seems to clear him though.
Dread Pirate – hasn’t been around enough… popped in questioning spooky based on a misread and hasn’t been around since. No idea.
Guy Patterson – was much more active day 1 than last game, but still not really providing any analysis; typical newb, but likely more villager than wolf.
kg2005 – nothing productive yet, no idea.
Melissa – she warned she would be limited in availability and has a crush on Pete… therefore a nibbish vote. So that’s not wolfy in itself. Still waiting for more here too.
rob – absent most of day 1 but when he’s around he’s providing something helpful. I don’t think he’s a wolf but if he is he’s going to show it.
spookymilk – more aggressive than I expected but perhaps normal for him; I think he might be a villager with Wolfson tunnel vision… or he’s being a really aggressive wolf because it’s fun.
TDO – gotta be a first time for being a wolf… and he’s acting weirdly abnormal. High on the list with what we have to go on so far.
todahshy – why can’t I remember what he’s done? WOLF! No seriously… I think he’s… I don’t know.
Zee German – He’s been really weird about kissing Strickland’s ass and something else doesn’t sit right… also up on my wolf-dar.
April 7, 2015 at 3:44 pm
rob
daneekasghost – similar to bhiggum, he’s providing helpful analysis as he always does. Unfortunately even as a wolf he gives good villager analysis. His proximity to the nibbish vote yesterday as early as it was seems to clear him though.
I don’t necessarily think that DG is a good wolf candidate, but this synopsis worries me a bit. He did almost the exact thing with the mlp game, which is why I didn’t suspect him for most of the game.
Basically, DG worries me because he is always a helpful villager, even when he’s a wolf.
April 7, 2015 at 3:46 pm
Inkarnit
I THINK I can spot a wolf DG even as a helpful villager. I was able to in MLP but I was dead. I’ll keep my eye on it, but even if he’s a wolf he’s being helpful right now.
April 7, 2015 at 3:46 pm
rob
I’d be okay with a TDO vote, except as DG pointed out, he won’t be able to defend himself due to detention.
April 7, 2015 at 3:49 pm
Inkarnit
He gets an hour before deadline to defend himself. But I can do the defending for him right now:
I’m always a villager. Every time. What is it going to take for you guys to just realize that and ignore me as a possible wolf each time? You are just wasting your time on me. I didn’t feel the nibbish thing and pointed it out and now you are even using that against me. If you vote me out, you are killing a villager.
April 7, 2015 at 3:55 pm
rob
Statistics!
I get what you’re saying, and that makes sense. I’m going to have to duck out pretty soon, here. I’ll try to check in tonight, but I’ll be replying strictly via phone, so comments will be shorter and more poorly spelled.
April 7, 2015 at 3:58 pm
Inkarnit
To be clear, I was posting that as TDO. You realize that, right?
April 7, 2015 at 4:04 pm
rob
yes, I realized that, but reading the rest of the game, it seems like a credible channeling and erroneous logic.
April 7, 2015 at 3:54 pm
spookymilk
It bugs me, more than a little bit, that I stated reasons that you could be a wolf and you’re claiming tunnel vision. I don’t know if you’re ignoring them because you’re a villager and don’t know how to explain yourself or if you’re a wolf and don’t have a backup plan to your play. Either way, dude, ugh.
I’m an aggressive player here because I’m always an aggressive player. I didn’t have to be one after a handful of hours in my last game because everyone knew my role.
April 7, 2015 at 3:58 pm
Inkarnit
Your reasons for why I’m a wolf don’t make any sense to me so I’m ignoring them. I didn’t think asking you your thoughts on nibbish constituted a wolfy play in any way. Still don’t. I think you overreacted. But you have a good point in that last time you were known from the beginning. That would tend to create a totally different attitude. I’ll tell you this though. If I was a wolf, going after you with a half-cocked plan because you were one of a small group to vote for the villager would NOT be my play. I would be going after way easier targets that couldn’t out-argue me. I know how good you are at this, so you would be the absolute last person I’d choose to make my patsy.
April 7, 2015 at 4:04 pm
bhiggum
The tone that you used when you asked felt wolfish, though. I can see spooky’s argument there, though I think it’s the way you play, just like he plays very aggressively. I’m still thinking you’re both villagers.
April 7, 2015 at 4:07 pm
spookymilk
Your reasons for why I’m a wolf don’t make any sense to me so I’m ignoring them.
You don’t get to ignore them. If I want to kill you there’s a decent chance I can get it done, so you should probably not ignore it.
I think you’re a villager. You’re not exactly playing very well, but I think you’re a villager.
April 7, 2015 at 4:11 pm
Inkarnit
I guess I figure you guys always talk about how defensive I am (because I just am for real in real life) so if I don’t defend I can’t be called defensive. But if you want defense, I’ll defend. Can you clarify my wolfy actions for me to defend please? If you need me to, anyway. Because your assessment that I’m a villager is correct. I wish I was not a “not very good one” but hey, I’m hoping to improve.
April 7, 2015 at 6:45 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
What!? Where did this “crush” thing come from? I mean, it’s true, but that’s NOT why I said I voted for him. I voted for him because he had just finished being a wolf in the last game, and because he has a beard. BEARDS = WOLF. Ask Bret.
Nothing about a crush. You’re making shit up, yo.
April 7, 2015 at 6:46 pm
Inkarnit
Mmhmm. I hear you loud and clear. This is like elementary school where you attack the boys you like, right?
April 7, 2015 at 4:01 pm
Inkarnit
I’m really kinda feeling TDO and ZG as wolves. TDO can’t defend himself yet so….
vote Zee German
April 7, 2015 at 4:14 pm
spookymilk
For some reason I’ve been going to Zee but I’m not entirely sure why. Do you have specifics? ‘Cause I could be convinced of this.
April 7, 2015 at 4:18 pm
Inkarnit
Every single one of his posts… without fail that I’ve been able to find… have been jokes about irrelevant things or kissing Strickland’s ass. And then his vote against Guy that he claimed was random was obviously a revenge vote which is classic wolf behavior. Being pretty new at werewolf I can see him making that classic wolf move.
April 7, 2015 at 4:03 pm
rob
One last thought before I take off – at what point does it make sense for Marty to role claim? It’s an obvious play if he’s going to be lynched, but I could see it sooner rather than later, too, since he can save himself. The downside would be it’d limit his available saves later on in the game, but removing a possible wolf from the game would be valuable now, too.
To be clear, I don’t expect him to come out, I just am curious on other’s thoughts.
April 7, 2015 at 4:09 pm
Inkarnit
Well Marty can confirm who Doc is and who Doc has peeked. So Marty’s role claim will tell us, right now, 4 confirmed roles. He will also be able to know the 2 people that Biff peeked, but not what their roles were. Those 2 people are unlikely to be wolves, since Biff needs to find out information right now, but could be misdirection from Biff. So we’d get 4 confirmed roles plus 2 questionable ones. Like you said, if he’s being lynched it makes sense for Marty to come forward, but not necessarily to say everything he knows. We certainly wouldn’t want Marty coming forward to cause Doc to die too. But knowing who Marty is, we could ask Marty for his best guesses. It’s tricky. In a couple more days Marty could be extremely helpful as a role claim, but sooner or later George or Lorraine is going to die and we’ll lose him.
April 7, 2015 at 4:15 pm
bhiggum
My head hurts.
April 7, 2015 at 6:47 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
I’m with Bhiggs on this. My head hurts, AND this hardcore analysis of Marty’s role actually makes me think Inkarnit is Marty. He wouldn’t put this much though into a role that he didn’t have to play.
April 7, 2015 at 6:50 pm
Inkarnit
Well thank you. I’m providing hardcore analysis because I’m a villager though who’s trying to hunt wolves. This brings up a solid point though. If Marty doesn’t come forward, please save me Marty. Because apparently I might be Marty and the wolves will eat me.
April 7, 2015 at 4:20 pm
Inkarnit
And considering as Beau stated below that Marty can save himself… and Doc once even, it might actually be useful for Marty to come forward. He could save himself and Doc that night. But I still think now is too early. Perhaps tomorrow it’ll make more sense.
April 7, 2015 at 4:22 pm
spookymilk
Marty’s got three chances to die, though, as he dies with George or Lorraine as well.
Not sure how we play that.
April 7, 2015 at 4:24 pm
Inkarnit
Yeah. I feel like we don’t learn enough to make the risk worth it today. But waiting until tomorrow has the risk that we lose Marty altogether. Risk/reward.
April 7, 2015 at 4:36 pm
kg2005
“I don’t think” isn’t good enough. I’m going for a run and when I get back I’m going to run the numbers if someone doesn’t beat me to it. I didn’t realize that Marty could save himself, this could be important.
April 7, 2015 at 4:29 pm
kg2005
Can Marty save himself? That isn’t clear from the role text, but I assumed not.
April 7, 2015 at 4:30 pm
kg2005
This is what I get for not refreshing.
April 7, 2015 at 4:11 pm
Beau
To clarify, Marty can save himself, just like in the movie.
April 7, 2015 at 4:14 pm
bhiggum
Okay, may as well put pressure somewhere-
Vote- Zee German
I liked that vote yesterday, and nothing has really changed except his nose got browner (I’m actually enjoying the way you’re playing that, ZG- comic relief is always welcome)
April 7, 2015 at 4:24 pm
ZG
I do what I can.
I’m still not really understanding the pressure here. I did “revenge” vote Guy yesterday, and my claim of randomness was sarcastic. That’s where my vote was probably going to go before I got back to the game and saw his vote on me. I didn’t have good reason to vote an established player who might be able to tell us something later.
I do think inkarnit has upped his game this time – he’s said some constructive things, minus the spooky squabble. I thought that was suspicious at first, but I’m doubting he’s a wolf.
April 7, 2015 at 4:42 pm
bhiggum
Even the spooky squabble has some value- every game he plays, I’ve seen spooky stir up shit like that and come away with some sort of nugget of information. Sometimes it’s even useful!
April 7, 2015 at 4:35 pm
spookymilk
Shout out to the wolves…I really don’t see any of you very well yet. So maybe Kage, DG or new people not talking.
April 7, 2015 at 4:37 pm
kg2005
The nice part about never getting to be a wolf is that there’s no pressure to keep my wolf streak alive.
April 7, 2015 at 5:12 pm
Inkarnit
Yeah… I still think being a wolf that never talks would be a successful strategy in our games.
April 7, 2015 at 5:33 pm
daneekasghost
I have long maintained that the seer should peek silent players to avoid exactly that.
The fact that this would usually prevent me from being peeked is immaterial, and I don’t know why you brought it up.
April 7, 2015 at 5:35 pm
Inkarnit
LOL. Seriously though that’s not bad reasoning. Usually seers peek the veterans to know what they’re up to but if the quiet people were peeked instead. Something to consider next time I’m a seer.
April 7, 2015 at 5:39 pm
spookymilk
I agree with DG (weird) and have always done that.
…while admitting it’s very tempting to look at DG.
April 7, 2015 at 5:09 pm
Guy Patterson
I have not played enough to know which player is not playing the norm, so I have been trying to sit back and soak it all up and I’m still confused. I am wanting to know what happened to DP and Melissa today? I am totally not calling them out becasue I have not been active as much as I would have like today, but I wanted their thoughts
April 7, 2015 at 6:51 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
I was off work for almost two weeks, and in my line of work, being OFF work means that, when you return, you’re overwhelmed with more than usual. So I haven’t been able to be around. I said this pretty much upfront, but I’d totally point it out, too, if I was a player because I’m usually bitching at Inkarnit or picking fights with Beezy. Inkarnit can bitch by himself, though, and Beezy’s not around, so I’m screwed.
I do like that YOU’RE more active. Not feeling wolfy vibes from you, either. Just a legitimate attempt to take part in the wolf hunting.
April 7, 2015 at 6:52 pm
Inkarnit
I miss you bitching at me 😦
April 7, 2015 at 5:15 pm
Beau
April 7, 2015 at 3:25 pm
Beau
(edit)
bhiggum (1) voting ZG
daneekasghost voting bhiggum
Dread Pirate
Guy Patterson
inkarnit voting ZG
kg2005
Melissa (1)
rob
spookymilk (1)
TDO voting spooky
todahshy voting Melissa
Zee German (2)
4.76 hours until night. 7 needed for Majority.
April 7, 2015 at 5:49 pm
bhiggum
OK, I’m convinced- let’s go after one of the quiet types- but which one? I ruled out Melissa earlier for her nibbish vote yesterday (for now, anyways), I think rob has been around a bit more, Guy is new and gets a one-day hall pass, so that leaves…
unvote ZG, vote DPWY
April 7, 2015 at 5:54 pm
Guy Patterson
yay a hall pass! I don’t mean to be quiet, I am just intimidated. I was lynched the first day lol
April 7, 2015 at 5:56 pm
spookymilk
To be clear, the best thing you can do now to stay alive, regardless of role, is to openly hunt wolves.
April 7, 2015 at 5:59 pm
Inkarnit
What he said. If you aren’t hunting wolves, you’re worthless. If you’re worthless, you’re better off dead. Either we get a wolf or we lose nothing.
April 7, 2015 at 6:52 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
Wow. You ARE wolfy. You’re lucky I’m thinking you’re Marty.
April 7, 2015 at 6:53 pm
Inkarnit
That was a general “you” not a specific “you.” I think Guy is participating this time.
April 7, 2015 at 6:00 pm
Inkarnit
I am curious about Will’s opinions. He’s usually so good. But he’s often busy, which leaves large periods of inactivity. He and KG are alike in that once they get involved, they’re bananas.
April 7, 2015 at 6:04 pm
daneekasghost
We can’t just kill everyone who had a meal with Novak yesterday.
DP is a good wolf, so anything is possible, but his comment late yesterday coupled with punman’s death makes me think he’s clean.
April 7, 2015 at 6:19 pm
Inkarnit
I dunno, “People that eat with Novak in real life” seems like a pretty good subset of wolves.
April 7, 2015 at 6:06 pm
daneekasghost
unvote: bhiggum
April 7, 2015 at 6:19 pm
daneekasghost
Say we avoid Marty or his parents in tonight’s lynching.
if a wolf dies
The wolves have 10 villager targets and 4 potentially good results (Marty, Dad, Mom, Doc)
They will have had 3 peeks to find them all as well.
if a villager dies
The wolves have 9 villager targets and 4 good results (Marty, Dad, Mom, Doc)
They will have had 3 peeks to find them as well.
Just from that, it seems like Marty’s time is pretty limited in this game. Even if the wolves don’t know for sure who is Marty or who are parents, their peeks are winnowing down that list very quickly.
Consider me cautiously in favor of Marty coming forward.
April 7, 2015 at 6:23 pm
Inkarnit
Coming forward when? Tomorrow? I definitely agree.
Today? Not sure.
April 7, 2015 at 6:40 pm
rob
I think today. The risk is really limited and we gain into, which helps. We also get to know the wolf peeks, which could help get a handle on their strategy.
April 7, 2015 at 6:57 pm
daneekasghost
I agree with rob. Today, or he might not be here tomorrow.
April 7, 2015 at 6:24 pm
spookymilk
I’m glad you posted this because I feel similarly but hadn’t gone that far down the rabbit hole.
April 7, 2015 at 6:26 pm
Inkarnit
And remember, we still get to know who Biff peeked too by Marty coming forward.
April 7, 2015 at 6:36 pm
bhiggum
I’d rather Marty came forward early, I think, as long as we’re not missing any other nuances to the rules.
April 7, 2015 at 6:42 pm
Inkarnit
OK but if Marty comes forward, what info do we want from him? Obviously the results of the 2 peeks, but do we actually want him to confirm Doc for us? I’d think we want to keep Doc a secret longer.
April 7, 2015 at 6:45 pm
rob
I think doc stays hidden unless there is a lot of village pressure for now
April 7, 2015 at 6:49 pm
ZG
We definitely want to keep doc hidden as long as possible if we don’t need to confirm Marty. Marty can continue to protect himself along with a parent. I’m not sure how many saves the wolves can afford to miss on, but I can’t imagine how more a miss or two wouldn’t put them in a pretty bad spot. They’ll be forced to stay away from known roles.
April 7, 2015 at 6:35 pm
todahshy
Ok. Caught up between jobs
unvote melissa
Vote ZG
I’m feeling this more than anything right now. His vote last night never sat well with me. I even mentioned it at the time. Convenient how “random.org” works out sometimes on this site.
As for Marty, I can’t crunch any numbers but my gut is saying he should come out unless he knows the identity of one of thr parents? Then that limits the wolves to one potential target that could off him.
Otherwise since they can save themselves and can talk to Doc we can ensure we get some good seer info without the seer needing to role claim
Other side benefit: we could get an Annette situation.
April 7, 2015 at 6:36 pm
Inkarnit
And since I know Annette is watching…
ZING!
April 7, 2015 at 6:40 pm
nettiebarron
I AM MARTY!!!
April 7, 2015 at 6:42 pm
Inkarnit
There’s your Annette situation todahshy.
April 7, 2015 at 6:40 pm
Inkarnit
Good point though. If Marty knows one of his parents at this point, it might be worth staying quiet because he’s well protected by simply saving himself and that parent. The wolves then have to get the other parent by guesswork or luck. If he doesn’t know either of his parents, it may be worth him coming out now.
April 7, 2015 at 6:55 pm
ZG
I keep saying this. I never claimed that vote was random, except tongue in cheek. I intended to put one on Guy earlier for lack of a better option. New kids at the little table voting at one another.
I’m still not sure why it’s a ‘classic wolf move’ unless classic wolves are dumb and like this kind of attention. It seems like misdirection to fixate on this kind of Day 1 voting. Gotta love it.
April 7, 2015 at 6:57 pm
Inkarnit
The revenge voting is a well known wolf move from what I’ve seen/heard since I started playing. That’s all I was saying.
April 7, 2015 at 6:39 pm
Guy Patterson
If Marty comes out won’t that paint a big target on his back and will waste one of his saves?
April 7, 2015 at 6:43 pm
rob
Yes, but the value of his saves isn’t high unless they have a good idea of the wolves pick of know how parents. Since no one else knows the parents, it seems far to likely that the village could Lynch them.
April 7, 2015 at 6:47 pm
Inkarnit
We’re going to have to trust that Marty can sift through the information present and decide whether it makes sense to come forward or not.
April 7, 2015 at 6:43 pm
todahshy
That’s what we have to weigh the risks and benefits. Is the beneficial seer info worth the lack of protection. I say yes because like in MLP even though the angel only got one save both Kelly and I were untouchable for a while because the wolves had no way of knowing for sure who was protected.
April 7, 2015 at 6:52 pm
The Dread Pirate
List time!
todahsy – Not only was there the weird post about spooky (surprised to be alive), but he’s had several posts that seem to be a little bit too “in the know” about what the wolves would be doing (here for example: https://spookymilk.wordpress.com/2015/04/07/werewolf-back-to-the-future-day-2/#comment-61263 ). Just a hunch.
ZG – he’s deflecting everything which is very weird, and I don’t remember doing that in the past. He’s also more involved, which could actually be a good thing, but still it’s odd.
DG – I have that same concerned feeling I had in the last Speakeasy because he’s being helpful, yet isn’t fully engaged as a hunter. His analysis on McFly coming out is very good, but it’s the sort of math stuff he’s been more likely to use as a wolf than villager.
inkarnit – not nearly as obvious as his last wolf-game, but still quite a few totally bizarre arguments. He also keeps putting forward different theories and then drops them five minutes later without explaining why, which could be him looking like he’s hunting but not doing much of anything.
Melissa/Guy/KG – way too quiet, hard to gauge. I don’t think wolf-KG willingly takes a strike.
bhiggum – was in the quiet bunch until earlier today, then was doing some good strategic discussion
Rob – was quiet until spurring the McFly discussion. Is that a wolf trying to draw someone out? He seems to have known that McFly could save himself, but my understanding based on past games was like KG’s so that’s a little weird.
Spooky – this looks like villager-spooky being super indignant and full of bluster trying to push people’s buttons
TDO – what’s different about him this time than every other game? He seems to be tripping a bunch of radars, but I’m not sure why
April 7, 2015 at 6:57 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
Maybe I’m a weirdo, but I really don’t think Todahshy’s comment about Spooky being alive is weird. If he was a wolf, WHY would he say that? He wouldn’t be surprised at all that Spooky was alive because…well, he was part of the decision making. Spooky is well-known, amongst others and in his own mind, for being a great wolf hunter. So the fact that he lives this long IS suspicious. Wolves benefit from taking out him or DG. Unless, of course, they peeked him and he was villager, so they didn’t bother. Also totally not out of the question…I’ve just reasoned myself into multiple directions here. Damnit. The one direction I’m sure of, though, is that this particular comment does not necessarily make Todahshy a wolf.
April 7, 2015 at 6:58 pm
Inkarnit
Yeah I don’t think I feel a todahshy vote quite yet either.
April 7, 2015 at 6:59 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
The line that Will quoted later, though, IS fishy.
Ugh. This game is harder when I’m not around a lot.
April 7, 2015 at 7:01 pm
The Dread Pirate
It’s not just that one comment. Look at the link. He’s had a few other times where he’s tripped my radar by almost narrating hypothetical wolf moves. He just seems like he knows more than the rest of us.
April 7, 2015 at 6:53 pm
The Dread Pirate
vote todahsy because I’m sure I can easily talk DG into it, and then we’ll see what sort of pressure that might exert!
April 7, 2015 at 7:05 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
This is the weirdest thing I’ve heard. You try to give reasoned arguments above, in a list, but they’re mostly “hunches” or based on flimsy evidence. Then you vote for someone because you feel you can get DG involved pretty easily, which makes me wonder if this is some in-joke I’m not catching, or if you and DG are both wolves and Todah isn’t so of course DG will go along with you! I don’t know. This vote’s too whimsical .
April 7, 2015 at 7:13 pm
daneekasghost
some in-joke I’m not catching
Think Merry v. Blimp
or Gloria and Norway
or Elihu and Gloopgloop
or that one time I killed todahshy in werewolf with a vote that he and I both forgot about because you got an immunity idol.
Killing todahshy is what I do. It’s what gets me out of bed in the morning.
April 7, 2015 at 7:27 pm
The Dread Pirate
As Ranier Wolfcastle would say after DG’s explanation, “That’s the joke.”
It never takes much to get DG salivating about killing toadsy!
April 7, 2015 at 7:44 pm
The Dread Pirate
My “hunches” based on “flimsy arguments” is based on just two days. With more evidence, we all get a better feel, but I was just trying to consolidate the things I’ve noticed and flesh them out. Feel free to disagree with my analysis, but offer your own hunches so we can get more dialogue. Silent villagers keep dooming us.
April 7, 2015 at 7:04 pm
daneekasghost
I’m in.
vote: todahshy
He didn’t vote enough. Or maybe too much, i forget.
April 7, 2015 at 7:06 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
Vote Dread Pirate
He’s being flippant, which matches DG’s wolfy flippant tone, and together, they’ll take down another villager.
April 7, 2015 at 7:17 pm
bhiggum
Eh, it’s a stretch to think that two wolves would band together this early and link themselves to just get rid of one more villager, isn’t it?
April 7, 2015 at 7:19 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
Unless they know the villager is a particular character that’s worth killing off.
April 7, 2015 at 7:24 pm
bhiggum
Nah, because that character can always role claim and they’ll have to back off. Not saying it’s not ever possible, just that I’m not going to look at it and decide to vote for one of them because of it.
Besides, I am already voting for DPWY.
April 7, 2015 at 7:21 pm
daneekasghost
But todahshy is going to kill me tomorrow!
April 7, 2015 at 7:21 pm
daneekasghost
Really this is just self-defense.
April 7, 2015 at 7:37 pm
The Dread Pirate
I made a joke while casting a perfectly rationalized vote. I don’t think anyone can read the post before my vote and be left wondering why I voted that way.
April 7, 2015 at 7:13 pm
Beau
bhiggum voting DPWY
daneeka’s ghost voting Todahshy
Dread Pirate (2) voting Todahshy
Guy Patterson
inkarnit voting ZG
kg2005
Melissa voting DP
rob
spookymilk (1)
TDO voting spooky
todahshy (2) voting ZG
Zee German (2)
April 7, 2015 at 7:23 pm
daneekasghost
Let’s get a bandwagon going here. I don’t like a DP vote and plenty of people don’t like a todahshy vote.
unvote: todahshy
vote: Zee German
April 7, 2015 at 7:26 pm
bhiggum
I am tempted to switch my vote back, but I’ll leave it on DP because I finally got someone else to join me there!
April 7, 2015 at 7:28 pm
Guy Patterson
But why ZG? What is your reasoning?
April 7, 2015 at 7:31 pm
daneekasghost
Because he has two votes on him already and putting more pressure on somebody is good because it forces them to talk about it, and it forces the rest of the village to talk about it.
April 7, 2015 at 7:55 pm
spookymilk
Because Guy makes so few comments, they all have a way of feeling important.
If ZG is a wolf, maybe Guy is too?
Something to think about as we keep playing.
April 7, 2015 at 7:27 pm
daneekasghost
As you ponder your options, I’d like to point out that in recent werewolf history, the trend has been for the village to sit and ponder their votes and at the last second kind of slouch toward a conclusion maybe or maybe just kill off the poor sap with 2 votes on them because everyone else is sitting on someone different.
And it doesn’t find wolves.
Vote. Vote often. It helps. It’s hard for a wolf to find a safe place on shifting terrain.
Vote for who you think is a wolf, but don’t be afraid to move around and argue.
April 7, 2015 at 7:29 pm
bhiggum
This is such good advice that I’m pretty sure you’re a wolf.
April 7, 2015 at 7:30 pm
rob
In the absence of something better, I’d do a zg vote.
since he’s at 3 votes and I don’t want him jailed, I’ll hold off on casting the vote.
April 7, 2015 at 7:31 pm
daneekasghost
We need 7 for a majority, you won’t put him even remotely close to jail.
April 7, 2015 at 7:36 pm
rob
A few minutes of thinking brought me to the same conclusion.
April 7, 2015 at 7:32 pm
bhiggum
We’re a long ways from majority, I’d say go ahead and throw it on there.
April 7, 2015 at 7:33 pm
bhiggum
echo, echo, echo
April 7, 2015 at 7:35 pm
daneekasghost
reverberate, reverberate
April 7, 2015 at 7:34 pm
rob
vote zg . Since 7 is majority (right?) , 4 votes isn’t too much.
April 7, 2015 at 7:35 pm
spookymilk
Just got back. The Survivor game I’m playing has live challenges. Oy.
I love the todahshy vote.
Vote todahshy
April 7, 2015 at 7:36 pm
spookymilk
…while admitting that if he isn’t a wolf, Will probably is.
I’m just not all that keen on ZG. He’s been aloof and jokey before, and I think it’s because of his own self-doubt about the game, if nothing else.
April 7, 2015 at 7:43 pm
bhiggum
Todahshy or Will, eh? Interesting mirrored pairing- I’ll flip sides from where I sit, to see what happens.
April 7, 2015 at 7:40 pm
Beau
bhiggum voting DPWY
daneeka’s ghost voting ZG
Dread Pirate (2) voting Todahshy
Guy Patterson
inkarnit voting ZG
kg2005
Melissa voting DP
rob voting ZG
spookymilk (1) voting Todahshy
TDO voting spooky
todahshy (2) voting ZG
Zee German (4)
April 7, 2015 at 7:43 pm
bhiggum
unvote- DPWY, vote- todahshy
April 7, 2015 at 7:47 pm
Inkarnit
I could see a Will vote too but I’m really not seeing Rivet.
April 7, 2015 at 7:51 pm
The Dread Pirate
And here we go again… Why could you see a vote for me but not Rivet? It’s these random statements with no support that you back away from that lead us no where.
April 7, 2015 at 7:53 pm
Inkarnit
Sorry no time. Eating real quick then have to drag all three kids to my bowling night because mom is working late.
April 7, 2015 at 8:11 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
Convenient.
April 7, 2015 at 8:12 pm
Inkarnit
Indeed. But I always bowl on Tuesday nights.
April 7, 2015 at 7:54 pm
Inkarnit
Also, I’m not voting for you. I just mean I could see how you’re a wolf. Admittedly very little to go on though because you’ve not been around too much. Your analysis feels forced to me is all.
April 7, 2015 at 7:51 pm
rob
Unvote zg, vote todahshy
Not too much is happening, so I’ll switch votes
April 7, 2015 at 7:51 pm
daneekasghost
Is the DP suspicion taking into account that he announced his suspicion of punman right at the end of the day and then punman (who doesn’t have a role) was night killed?
April 7, 2015 at 7:53 pm
spookymilk
I’d love to hear this. I can’t see a good reason to suspect Will other than the fact that he’s a rotten bastard in general. He might be a wolf, but I doubt it.
April 7, 2015 at 7:55 pm
Inkarnit
Yeah I haven’t done too much looking at will because he’s not given me much to look at. I plan to look more tomorrow.
April 7, 2015 at 8:09 pm
The Dread Pirate
Is anybody seeing this? He says he wants to vote me without providing a reason. When asked for a reason, he says he doesn’t have enough time. Note he’s still around and saying he has no reason to vote me. Isn’t that exactly what I pointed out he’s been doing in my list?
April 7, 2015 at 8:11 pm
Inkarnit
Are you kidding? I didn’t say I wanted to vote you. I said I could see you as a wolf. Could see. Not do see. I’ve got a baby in my hands doing this from my phone so forgive me if unable to scroll back through your past stuff.
April 7, 2015 at 8:14 pm
The Dread Pirate
I, too, have a baby in my hands right now. Doesn’t change the fact that you said you preferred a vote for me over toadsy without providing any reasoning and, when asked for a reason quickly backtracked.
April 7, 2015 at 7:56 pm
bhiggum
I voted for Will because at the time, he had about 5 posts for the day. I know he’ll be around if he can be, but I wanted to hear something more from him. And we got a list!
April 7, 2015 at 8:01 pm
ZG
TDO is due back and hopefully my kids will go to bed independently (!). I’ve been waiting for his return to address some of the earlier suspicions.
Vote often, I’m told.
Vote TDO
April 7, 2015 at 8:03 pm
Inkarnit
Oh yes, your wolf partner, no?
April 7, 2015 at 8:07 pm
ZG
Right. Let’s not forget that one.
April 7, 2015 at 8:01 pm
spookymilk
Is there another hour to go?! Here I’ve been all nervous about the end of the day and getting it right.
April 7, 2015 at 8:05 pm
rob
I’m with zg on tdo. I’ve been waiting for him to get back, so hopefully another vote will help him talk beyond statistics.
unvote todahshy, vote tdo
April 7, 2015 at 8:07 pm
kg2005
Vote inkarnit
I’m strictly in the camp that Marty should come out tonight. His arguments against it ring a little hollow. Mostly I need to get a vote down to avoid another strike. I’m here for the rest of the night, though.
April 7, 2015 at 8:10 pm
Inkarnit
Better than a strike I suppose but I’m not the wolf. I know I’ve burned you in the past though so I understand this vote.
April 7, 2015 at 8:07 pm
TDO
Hey everyone! Wow, I dont have much time. I really don’t see what this whol suspicions on me are. Most concerns about me are from a few people who haven’t provided solid reasons behind just wanting to vote me. It also came conveniently after I couldn’t speak to defend myself, smells wolfy to me to pick on a guy known to not be able to say anything to try and get majority whilst I could not speak.
With that said
unvote spooky vote karn
I’m just not buying his play style and like someone said he packs a whole lot of nothing in his posts, so that’s where I stand right now. He also was one of the first to come at my while I was in detention, which reverts back to my analysis above my vote change in this section.
Don’t worry Mr Strickland my homework is done and ready for tommorrow morning.
April 7, 2015 at 8:09 pm
Inkarnit
I didn’t come at you at all. I voted for ZG BECAUSE you were in detention. But it’s cool.
April 7, 2015 at 8:08 pm
Inkarnit
Something I’ve noticed from previous games is we’re often on the wolf early and he gets saved late. So I think ZG or tdo are good votes here.
April 7, 2015 at 8:12 pm
daneekasghost
unvote: Zee German
vote: Marty should come out tonight
April 7, 2015 at 8:16 pm
rob
Agreed, and the sooner the better. Also, the peeks should be strictly wolf or not wolf (obviously), if at all.
April 7, 2015 at 8:18 pm
kg2005
Right. No need to give up any special roles. The nice part about Marty coming out and saving himself is that we’re also guaranteed tomorrow’s peek since both he and Doc will know.
April 7, 2015 at 8:14 pm
daneekasghost
vote: TDO For the reasons I posted here.
April 7, 2015 at 8:16 pm
Inkarnit
Gotta leave the house now and likely can’t check back in with all 3 kids. So I’ll just unvote ZG and vote inkarnit
April 7, 2015 at 8:17 pm
Inkarnit
Kill me if you want guys but pay attention to who drives it
April 7, 2015 at 8:17 pm
daneekasghost
I’m tempted to vote for you now more than ever, just so that people don’t self-vote anymore.
April 7, 2015 at 8:19 pm
spookymilk
No fucking kidding. So sick of it.
April 7, 2015 at 8:20 pm
daneekasghost
We’re really in sync this game. Like we’re sharing the same brian.
April 7, 2015 at 8:22 pm
spookymilk
We’re really in sync this game. Like we’re sharing the same brian.
April 7, 2015 at 8:25 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
That same brian isn’t my brother, is it? Because…gross.
April 7, 2015 at 8:29 pm
bhiggum
literally LOL’ed
April 7, 2015 at 8:30 pm
spookymilk
There’s no reason to type “LOL” if it isn’t literal.
April 7, 2015 at 8:32 pm
bhiggum
Literally, Kelly- literally!
Only typed it because I knew it would bug you, too 😀
April 7, 2015 at 8:20 pm
kg2005
Self voting has always been seen as some sort of big gesture, but it has no bearing with me.
April 7, 2015 at 8:21 pm
daneekasghost
It doesn’t change my opinion of inkarnit’s role (probably a villager) but it sure annoys me.
April 7, 2015 at 8:26 pm
bhiggum
I think it’s a viable strategy- sometimes. This really isn’t one of those times.
April 7, 2015 at 8:24 pm
Inkarnit
Sorry guys. I never self vote and am against it generally too. But this is a really hectic night with my wife being stuck at work and me having to carry the kids to bowling. I just don’t have the time to argue. I’m driving currently while typing this. I’ll remove my vote and potentially take a strike if y’all prefer. But I maintain either zg or tdo as my highest candidates. Will got all bent out of shape though simply because I stated I saw him as more likely than rivet as a wolf.
April 7, 2015 at 8:26 pm
The Dread Pirate
Your kids and own safety matter way more than werewolf, so don’t do this while driving!
April 7, 2015 at 8:28 pm
TDO
x2
April 7, 2015 at 8:27 pm
TDO
i prefer you just take a strike than self vote. though voting for onesself has no bearing for my decision.
Second who the F is rivet?
April 7, 2015 at 8:28 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
Todahshy. I…think.
April 7, 2015 at 8:29 pm
Inkarnit
Sorry. Voice recognition understands rivet way easier.
April 7, 2015 at 8:26 pm
TDO
unvote inkarnit
He’s at least vocal, maybe we should go after the silent players.
April 7, 2015 at 8:26 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
So…why hasn’t Marty come out, then? Does this mean Marty is someone who’s not around right now, or that Marty is a scaredy-cat who doesn’t want eaten in the future?
April 7, 2015 at 8:28 pm
TDO
so being absent for a while and this is your first post? Are you Marty?
April 7, 2015 at 8:28 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
I commented above, too.
April 7, 2015 at 8:31 pm
TDO
but nothing of substance and you didn’t answer, are you Marty?
April 7, 2015 at 8:33 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
I am not Marty.
April 7, 2015 at 8:28 pm
kg2005
Both of those things are possible. I’m leaning toward the former since most people that are around now seem to be in favor of it.
April 7, 2015 at 8:28 pm
Inkarnit
unvote me and vote TDO he’s not playing as he normally does, though his analysis is off just as bad as usual. I typed this at a stop light.
April 7, 2015 at 8:31 pm
spookymilk
I can take todah or TDO here, I guess.
April 7, 2015 at 8:30 pm
TDO
Can someone explain to me how i’m not playing as i normally do? I dont see anything different outside of feeling bad we have a habit of killing nibbish on day 1 and i saw nothing that led to him being the guy that got the axe.
April 7, 2015 at 8:32 pm
kg2005
Meh, I don’t see it, but I haven’t been super engaged either.
April 7, 2015 at 8:34 pm
TDO
12 people
3 wolves
1 angel
1 seer
2 parents
5 vanillagers
April 7, 2015 at 8:35 pm
TDO
make that 4 vanillagers and 1 mr strickland
April 7, 2015 at 8:37 pm
ZG
Parents are essentially villagers as they can’t role claim unless a seer tells everybody who they are.
April 7, 2015 at 8:38 pm
TDO
i’m just trying to think of this from the angel’s view to try and see why they haven’t come out yet. seems like they should to me.
April 7, 2015 at 8:36 pm
spookymilk
Yeah, I’m happier with todah than TDO. TDO seems like himself. Not that we’d know, but…he does.
April 7, 2015 at 8:36 pm
TDO
Melissa can you post something of substance to help us?
April 7, 2015 at 8:40 pm
The Dread Pirate
Very valid question. I was thinking the same thing. She’s been around for awhile, but not offering much.
April 7, 2015 at 8:41 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
Are you focusing on me simply to deflect? I’m not sure that’s helpful since, when looking back, you have said even less of substance than I have. You voted Inkarnit because you “don’t like his style”, then you unvoted him because he’s talking and that’s better than non-talkers. Then you harped about whether I’m Marty or not, which was strange harping in the first place. If I was Marty, I would say so. I was clearly on the “Out yourself, Marty” train. And now you’re trying to point at me as if to say, “Stop looking at me. LOOK OVER THERE! It’s a shiny pony in a poodle skirt. WOLF!”
I’m starting to understand the votes on you right now.
April 7, 2015 at 8:43 pm
TDO
my reasoning on not killing karn is sound. he’ll leave a trail later in the game where i quiet player wont. i also feel you are going on the defensive now as you still haven’t posted much except to make the easy jump on me.
April 7, 2015 at 8:37 pm
daneekasghost
unvote: TDO
vote: zee german on the theory that the vote that takes off is the one that has nefarious influence.
April 7, 2015 at 8:40 pm
ZG
But if I was voting based on your analysis?…
April 7, 2015 at 8:38 pm
Beau
Okay, I’m here for the duration.
bhiggum voting todahshy
daneeka’s ghost voting ZG
Dread Pirate (1) voting Todahshy
Guy Patterson
inkarnit (1) voting TDO
kg2005 voting inkarnit
Melissa voting DP
rob voting TDO
spookymilk voting Todahshy
TDO (3)
todahshy (3) voting ZG
Zee German (2) voting TDO
April 7, 2015 at 8:39 pm
TDO
I’mleaning a Melissa vote right now. She’s not around much and when she is she is not helping. How many games are we going to keep going wherer we dont kill off the untalkatives? If you talk then at least we can tie things back at end game, quiet only hurts us.
April 7, 2015 at 8:42 pm
spookymilk
I’m not ignoring Melissa because she’s quiet, I’m ignoring her because I think she’s a villager. Yes, there’s little to go on, but I still feel this way.
The fact that you want to vote for someone with no votes with 20 minutes left and three votes on you is a pretty strong post in favor of you being clean.
April 7, 2015 at 8:49 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
I think he’s clean. As much as I want to plop a vote on him for trying to implicate me, I can’t. I’m a villager, and the two of us are identical in our game today. (Other than pointing out someone in a panic, which I didn’t do).
I think TDO is a villager. I’m leaning towards Karn being Marty.
I think DG and DPWY are very chummy, but I suppose that’s not too much to be concerned about. It does make me think one is a wolf and the other probably isn’t because they’d probably ignore each other, as much as possible, as two wolves. What I am concerned about is Will’s tendency to grasp on to flimsier arguments today (like the one on Todahshy, who I’m not saying ISN’T a wolf, but it didn’t seem like the soundest of arguments) than he usually would. He’s a good wolf-finder, but I’m not seeing any hardcore analysis there.
April 7, 2015 at 8:45 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
This is a poor argument because I made it VERY CLEAR from the start (and before the start) that I wouldn’t be around today or much this week due to work issues. That would be like me complaining that you weren’t talkative today when, well — of course you weren’t! You were in detention the whole time and had an obvious reason. Then you come back and do nothing but point at the first target you see.
Basically, you’re pointing me out using an argument that could, almost down to the word, be used against you. If I’m a wolf, so are you.
April 7, 2015 at 8:46 pm
TDO
I’m fine with my thoughts against you being used against me later as now I’m really thinking you are teh wolf.
April 7, 2015 at 8:51 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
I don’t understand that. If your thoughts against me are correct, as you ascertain (meaning I’m a wolf), and they’re the same as the thoughts against you…well, if I get lynched and turned out to be a wolf, wouldn’t that implicate you as ALSO the wolf? That’d be horrible for you if the arguments against me are used against you later! You basically NEED me to be a villager.
April 7, 2015 at 8:41 pm
TDO
vote Melissa
April 7, 2015 at 8:45 pm
Guy Patterson
I just got home and catching up
April 7, 2015 at 8:49 pm
TDO
FINE, I’m Marty.
The seer peeked Nibs night zero. Peaked Guy last night as villager. Biff peeked Melissa night zero, then peeked me last night.
If biff peeked melissa and didn’t kill her, she must not be one of my parents, and she’s either a fake peek on a wolf since the seer and I know who they peek or she’s a vanillager.
In the end isn’t it better to kill her than accidently kill my parents resulting in a 3 person swing for the wolves?
We kill my parent, I die, they get a night kill. 3 person swing in their favor.
April 7, 2015 at 8:51 pm
spookymilk
I figured there was a good shot it was you, since there was near-universal agreement it was a good idea to come out with the information. Only meat is more hard-headed(ly wrong) about needing to stay hidden.
April 7, 2015 at 8:55 pm
The Dread Pirate
That conversation with Melissa sure makes a lot more sense.
April 7, 2015 at 8:52 pm
ZG
That…would change things.
April 7, 2015 at 8:55 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
Goddamnit. I don’t want to die at all! Being a villager lynched by the villagers ON PURPOSE (for being a villager) is somehow far worse than being lynched as a villager when the village thinks I’m a wolf. Gak.
April 7, 2015 at 8:50 pm
Guy Patterson
Can anyone explain to me the Todashy vote? Why do some suspect him to be a wolf?
April 7, 2015 at 8:52 pm
TDO
So now can we all agree melissa needs to go lol.
April 7, 2015 at 8:54 pm
spookymilk
No. Kill todahshy. And then kill Guy for pretending to not know why to kill todahshy.
April 7, 2015 at 8:55 pm
ZG
Well shit. Lousy time to get into this.
April 7, 2015 at 8:54 pm
Guy Patterson
I think TDO makes a good argument and we don’t want to chance killing of one of his parents
Vote Melissa
April 7, 2015 at 8:56 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
This will make you look quite wolfy later. Just so you know. A wolf would also find it very helpful to vote out a villager — whether Marty’s parents or vanilla-wise.
April 7, 2015 at 8:57 pm
spookymilk
Guy is a wolf. Betting on it right now.
Rob too, maybe.
April 7, 2015 at 8:58 pm
The Dread Pirate
But TDO just said Guy wasn’t a wolf. Rob, I could definitely see.
April 7, 2015 at 9:00 pm
spookymilk
Jesus, lost that in the shuffle. Sorry.
April 7, 2015 at 8:54 pm
ZG
TDO, this doesn’t leave much time for debate…
Vote Melissa on the likelihood you’re not about to fake claim that one.
April 7, 2015 at 8:54 pm
TDO
peeps like move some votes or am i going to die when the wolves jump on me?
April 7, 2015 at 8:55 pm
spookymilk
Fucking HELL. Why Melissa?!
April 7, 2015 at 8:56 pm
TDO
how do you say that after the reasoning i laid out. you’re better than that spooky, thats some of the best sh*t ive laid out in my werewolf career.
April 7, 2015 at 8:59 pm
spookymilk
Biff isn’t wasting a peek on a wolf with his first peek. That’s way too dicey. No fucking way.
April 7, 2015 at 8:58 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
Because there’s a chance I’m a regular old villager and not Marty’s parents, and TDO is arguing that it’s better to kill me rather than accidentally off Marty’s parents. I’m personally not sure how they don’t know I’m not one of the parents. That’s confusing me.
All I know is that I’m dying tonight. If you guys don’t lynch me, the wolves probably will. Ridiculous.
April 7, 2015 at 8:59 pm
TDO
we kill you and the wolves kill someone we are down 2 at worst. we kill a parent accidently we are now down 3. that’s basic to me. not sure why you and spooky dont get it.
April 7, 2015 at 9:00 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
If I die tonight, swear you’ll straighten out this whole Marty thing. TDO’s claim seems dubious. The other person who is ACTUALLY Marty may not even be here and he just jumped on the opportunity to claim. Now anybody else claiming wouldn’t be taken seriously.
April 7, 2015 at 8:55 pm
rob
unvote tdo
Dang it, that claim seems fishy but I’d hate to find out the hard way.
April 7, 2015 at 8:55 pm
Beau
bhiggum voting todahshy
daneeka’s ghost voting ZG
Dread Pirate (1) voting Todahshy
Guy Patterson voting Melissa
inkarnit (1) voting TDO
kg2005 voting inkarnit
Melissa (3) voting DP
rob
spookymilk voting Todahshy
TDO (1) voting Melissa
todahshy (3) voting ZG
Zee German (2) voting Melissa
April 7, 2015 at 8:58 pm
rob
Vote todahshy because I don’t see a better path forward now and there’s no time
April 7, 2015 at 8:58 pm
TDO
why toda i haven’t seen that all day. you’re risking 3 people if he’s my parent.
April 7, 2015 at 9:00 pm
rob
Because you plopped this down with no warning and I don’t fully trust you
April 7, 2015 at 9:00 pm
rob
Because you plopped this down with no warning and I don’t fully trust you
April 7, 2015 at 8:59 pm
Beau
bhiggum voting todahshy
daneeka’s ghost voting ZG
Dread Pirate (1) voting Todahshy
Guy Patterson voting Melissa
inkarnit (1) voting TDO
kg2005 voting inkarnit
Melissa (3) voting DP
rob voting todahshy
spookymilk voting Todahshy
TDO (1) voting Melissa
todahshy (4) voting ZG
Zee German (2) voting Melissa
April 7, 2015 at 9:01 pm
Beau
IT IS NIGHT
April 7, 2015 at 9:02 pm
Beau
Death post coming as soon as I can write it.
April 7, 2015 at 9:11 pm
Beau
Marvin Berry exited the vehicle.
“Hey, beat it, Spook. This don’t concern you.” 3-D had just thrown Marty into the back of a car, because that made sense.
“Who you calling ‘Spook’ peckerwood?”
A bunch of other black dudes exited the car.
3-D looked nervous. “Would this be a bad time to call you all a bunch of reefer addicts?”
They said nothing.
“Would this be a bad time to tell you I was planning to kill Marty?”
Marvin yawned and cracked his knuckles.
nibbish(Skinhead, lost his head)Joepunman(Mayor Red Thomas, poisoned)todahshy(3-D, too honest)bhiggum
daneekasghost
Dread Pirate
Guy Patterson
Inkarnit
kg2005
Melissa
rob
spookymilk
TDO
todahshy
Zee German
Doc, make your peek. Biff, make your peek. The people who can talk now, you may commence.