HALL OF CHAMPIONS
SPOOKYMILK SURVIVOR
I: Rachel “The Double-Dealer” Flynn
II: Ryan “The Snake” Fossum
III: Patrick “The Gentleman” Kozicky
IV: Brienne “The Submitter” Maner
V: Rusty “The Porn Star” Greene
VI: Brooks “The Unlikely Hero” Maki
VII: William “The Soulful” Schuth
VIII: Brooks “The Survivor” Maki
IX: Zack “The Ice Cream Man” Sauvageau
X: Pete “The Vacuum Cleaner” Bruzek
Turbo: Brooks “The 1956-1979 Montreal Canadiens” Maki
XI: Matt “The Cold-Hearted Motherf*&^er” Novak
All-Stars (XII): Andy “The Quiet Man” Rustleund
XIII: Sarah “Clarence’s Hope” Bizek
XIV: Dan “The Professional” Kautz
XV: Christina “Assault And” Pepper
XVI: Matt “The First-Time Player” Novak
XVII: Stacy “Saintly Patience” Snell
XVIII: Brian “Checkmate” David
XIX: Annette “Eammon for the Top” Barron
XX: Daniel “Neville “Smash “Hardware” Hardwood” Longbottom” Caouette
XXI: Pete “The Comeback Kid” Bruzek
XXII: Dan “The Even More Professional” Kautz
XXIII: Melissa “Don’t You (Forget About Me)” David
XXIV: Stacy “Fucking” Snell
GODS AND MORTALS
I: Dragging Rivet’s Name Through the Mud One Last Time: Matt Novak (Ultragrandpa) and Michael Rivet (Friph Flipher-Fiph)
II: Bahambo Number 5: Pete “Triple Crown” Bruzek and Michelle “Single Tiara…So Far” Pratt
BIG BROTHER
I: Brooks “Oh, for the Love of God” Maki
II: Michael “#DDB” Rivet
III: Pete “Fortune’s Fool” Bruzek
IV: Erin “All Seven and We’ll Watch Them Fall” Leslie
V: Jake “Littlefinger” Elliott
FALL, CAESAR
2014: Brooks “The Creator” Maki
2015: Matt “The Artist” Novak
2016: Matt “Waited Them Out” Novak
2017: Annette “I Would’ve Voted for You” Barron
THE ROYAL RUMBLE
2013: #21 Greg “The Gallant Glutton of Greatness” Johnson
2014: #29 Jonathon “Big Papa” Pope
2015: #8 Christina “Am I in This?” Pepper
2016: #22 Annette “No Backs Stabbed” Barron
2017: #30 Bernice “The Vulture” Nicaise
2018: #17 Carrie “Solid Gold” Bard
2019: #16 Jake “The Jabroni” Elliott
PLAY WITH THE PROSE
(Writing, non-elimination)
I: Sarah “Centipede Face” Johnson
II: Sarah “The Johnson Eliminator” Wreisner
III: Colin “Lonely Old Moon” Woolston
IV: Melissa “Not Sidebar Material” Diamond
V: Sama “No Family Reunions” Smith
VI: Sarah “Tumor Face” Wreisner
VII: John “Cult Following” Wreisner
VIII: Joshua “Peed the Bed” Longman
VIII: Annette “Oh, Right, That’s Who Won” Barron
WEREWOLF (most recent)
Werewolf Stats Spreadsheet
PUZZLE CHALLENGE
I (Pure): Matthew “The Obsessor” Gilman
I (Power): Kelly “The Novak-Destroyer” Wells
DIPLOMACY
I: Matt “Exploiter of Worlds” Novak (France)
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July 29, 2015 at 9:12 am
mbnovak
Well, at least Spacegirl got us two living peeks named. Spacegirl, I’m sorry.
Vote Todahshy
I jumped on awkward Spacegirl, he kept priming the pump. Plus all the other stuff from yesterday.
July 29, 2015 at 9:20 am
Stacy Snell
I was thinking the same thing. I did not vote for her, Inkarnit was my vote. Who knew he is a salmon. That will definitely make today’s hunt a bit easier.
July 29, 2015 at 9:22 am
todahshy
Before we go too far off the rails just remember we don’t know for sure that Inkarnit is a salmon. Is it incredibly likely? Yes.
But he also could be the wolf that appears to be the salmon.
July 29, 2015 at 9:23 am
mbnovak
There is the chance of that, but there is no reason we should consider him today. Unless we want to put ourselves out of misery, that is.
July 29, 2015 at 9:21 am
todahshy
To me the most suspicious vote of the bandwagon was
vote sherrymac
Coupled with Inkarnit’s no silence day 1 theory, she seems sketchy to me. Joined the bandwagon with no reason given whatsoever.
KG sticking with roxanne also caught my eye.
July 29, 2015 at 9:43 am
kg2005
It caught your eye that I said “I think Roxanne is the best candidate of the newbs” and then sat bewildered as 5 people jumped onto spacegirl with such little reason? Novak declares “this is the wolf!” and it’s a mad rush.
July 29, 2015 at 9:45 am
todahshy
Well I was duped too. Her comment was so odd, I thought it was a newb wolf cracking like Brooks mentioned with his vote.
I just think sitting on a target knowing they will not be eliminated and then sitting back and watching the village eat itself in a frenzy is a great thing for a wolf.
Even before the rush you were staying out of the fray with your vote.
July 29, 2015 at 9:47 am
mbnovak
Brooks’DG’s comment and vote there was textbook wolf DG, no?July 29, 2015 at 9:50 am
todahshy
It had me suspect him for the first time (along with his super overt villageriness).
July 29, 2015 at 9:48 am
kg2005
At the time I didn’t believe you or Inkarnit were wolves. You were sitting at 4 votes each. I voted for Roxanne to put her at three votes in the hopes that someone else would vote with me. Then the spacewagon started. Who was I supposed to change my vote to?
July 29, 2015 at 9:23 am
sherrymac1031
She was so back and forth that it made her look guilty sigh sorry space girl clearly it was a bad move.
July 29, 2015 at 9:27 am
Stacy Snell
In your defense, a lot of people got on that wagon at the last minute haha!
July 29, 2015 at 9:24 am
sherrymac1031
I joined the bandwagon because I read her back and forth voting system.
July 29, 2015 at 9:25 am
sherrymac1031
But as I recall it was torn between her and Roxanne
July 29, 2015 at 9:25 am
Stacy Snell
I think that you all are correct. ONE of the new people are most likely sturgeon. I can assure you it is not me. Therefore, Roxanne and/or Sherrymac seem likely. Lets poke the sturgeons…..
Vote Roxanne
July 29, 2015 at 9:55 am
rockitlikeroxanne
I don’t understand why you are convinced that one of the newbies must be a sturgeon. It’s all random, it could be anyone. I have explained my weird timing on day one, other then that I have been a model villager.
July 29, 2015 at 9:27 am
sherrymac1031
I would agree it isn’t me so I would say i should have voted on instinct and kept my vote
VOTE ROXANNE
July 29, 2015 at 9:29 am
sherrymac1031
My question is with space girl being the sear why didn’t she help direct towards the path sooner to who was wolf and how do we know she spoke the truth at the end about who is wolf sigh
July 29, 2015 at 9:39 am
todahshy
That’s a lesson for the new players. Had she throughout the day been posting lists of most likely and least likely targets and subtly let us know she did not think Inkarnit was a wolf, it would have been much less jarring at the end of the day when she decided she wanted to swap her vote to someone else for no reason and raised all of our alarm bells.
Of course a seer claim 2 minutes earlier would have helped too after she saw the bandwagon going.
July 29, 2015 at 9:41 am
mbnovak
It’s hard to blame her too much though, as she was at least able to get out her peeks and didn’t take them to the grave with her.
July 29, 2015 at 9:43 am
todahshy
Oh I don’t blame her at all, I was happy she got the peeks out. Just something for the new players to learn from. It’s important to be active throughout the day so we know where your head is at.
July 29, 2015 at 9:30 am
mbnovak
You know what? It’s Brooks, KG, and Todahsy. Of course it is. We’ve got a bazillion new players getting all the heat, plus Inkanit. Colin was picked off night one, it probably would have been nibs or me anyway night 2, but nibs won out as the confirmed villager, tonight will be inkarnit.
New players, come back to this post when you’re all that’s left.
July 29, 2015 at 9:31 am
daneekasghost
seriously. Stop calling me Brooks.
Brooks doesn’t play werewolf. DG does.
July 29, 2015 at 9:33 am
mbnovak
(Is this an actual thing that I should stop doing, like it’s been bothersome for ages, or is this just a joke?)
July 29, 2015 at 9:36 am
daneekasghost
It weirds me out, for real. Beezy always did this too and it was strange.
July 29, 2015 at 9:38 am
mbnovak
Noted. I never realized.
July 29, 2015 at 9:42 am
todahshy
I had no idea that this was a thing either.
July 29, 2015 at 9:30 am
daneekasghost
Todahshy’s move to spacegirl right after novak was a little weird, as he was suspicious of novak for quite a while yesterday (including the end of the day).
July 29, 2015 at 9:37 am
nibbish
July 29, 2015 at 9:38 am
nibbish
Stupid dirty HTML
July 29, 2015 at 9:41 am
nibbish
It’s there. Whatever. I r ded.
July 29, 2015 at 9:42 am
nibbish
hahaha
July 29, 2015 at 9:40 am
sherrymac1031
But I sit here thinking Roxanne knows I felt she was wolfy so why would they take out someone who was gunning for them which make me question my whole thought process. If I was right then it would have made more sense to go after me which they didn’t. If I was wolf I would take out the person who suspected me not just some random person.
July 29, 2015 at 9:44 am
mbnovak
Well remember, if you were a wolf, you’d be one of three wolves. So it’s not about who suspects you, it’s about who is dangerous to the team.
During the day, as a wolf, you take whatever non-wolf kill you can get. And if you can’t get one, then you distance yourself from your fellow wolves, and sometimes that will even meaning voting for them.
Night kills are about a couple of different things. First, you want to look for people who have roles that can help the village, like seer and angel. Second, you want to take out known-villagers if there are any (so nibs, last night), and third you take out people you percieve as being threats to get it right.
July 29, 2015 at 9:43 am
sherrymac1031
Which leads me to believe I have not tagged the wolf yet
July 29, 2015 at 9:47 am
todahshy
I’m leaning Sherry, Novak and KG right now.
July 29, 2015 at 9:50 am
kg2005
I agree with one from your list.
July 29, 2015 at 9:52 am
mbnovak
Well sure, you’re the only wolf he listed.
July 29, 2015 at 9:54 am
kg2005
Ah, the old “I know you are, but what am I?” defense.
July 29, 2015 at 9:52 am
nettiebarron
<Vote DG It’s probably Novak, DG and KG, which ultimately means the salmon population is in BIG trouble.
July 29, 2015 at 9:52 am
nettiebarron
Damnit
July 29, 2015 at 9:53 am
nettiebarron
Vote DG
July 29, 2015 at 9:54 am
mbnovak
Unvote Todahsy
Vote DG
I’m more sure about DG than I am Todahsy. And if KG and Todahsy can’t see it on DG right now, then I think that’s pretty damning for them too.
July 29, 2015 at 9:55 am
kg2005
Huh? Have you even asked me about DG yet?
July 29, 2015 at 9:57 am
kg2005
Seriously, if I was a wolf with DG, I would be all over the “Let’s kill DG!” movement right now. It’s early enough in the day that nothing is going to happen and it would give me credibility later on.
July 29, 2015 at 10:00 am
mbnovak
No, I haven’t. I’ve been kind of waiting for you to jump into the fray a bit. I’m less sure on you than the other two I suspect. I’ve kind of wanted to see where you’d go with engagement here.
July 29, 2015 at 10:10 am
kg2005
I’ve never been much for “jumping into the fray”. It’s why I excel at themed games and flounder at vanilla.
July 29, 2015 at 10:12 am
mbnovak
In that case, let me hear your thoughts please. Particularly as regards DG and Todahshy.
July 29, 2015 at 10:13 am
kg2005
NOVAK I MADE A FISH PUN. IT TOOK ME THIS LONG TO DO IT SUCCESSFULLY. PLEASE JUST BE PROUD OF ME.
July 29, 2015 at 10:16 am
kg2005
But yeah I’ll post some thoughts.
July 29, 2015 at 10:25 am
mbnovak
It’s funny, because I have yet to make a fish pun this game. I’ll not let myself be baited into it by the rest of… oh dammit.
July 29, 2015 at 10:02 am
nettiebarron
What do you think about DG?
July 29, 2015 at 10:03 am
mbnovak
This!
July 29, 2015 at 10:17 am
daneekasghost
Handsome devil. Those eyebrows are something else.
July 29, 2015 at 10:00 am
todahshy
Don’t speak for me!
July 29, 2015 at 10:03 am
mbnovak
And yet, he’s only in tier 2 in your list below.
He made one small agreeing comment and pitched his vote towards Spacegirl. That is textbook wolf, especially for Brooks. He doesn’t bandwagon jump if he doesn’t see it on his own, and if he does see it on his own he doesn’t feel the need to chime in with a little comment like that (especially one so banal) to get others to see it too.
July 29, 2015 at 10:06 am
todahshy
He’s on top of Tier 2, meaning he is suspect 4. I don’t see how that is me thinking there is no way he is a wolf?
July 29, 2015 at 10:09 am
mbnovak
I never said that was you saying there was no way he was a wolf.
My point here is that he’s just about as much of a lock as we’ve got right now. You might think I’m a wolf too. Fine. Whatever. But there is no way you should have Sherry and KG above DG.
July 29, 2015 at 10:12 am
todahshy
Sherry I’ll give you. KG definitely above DG in my mind right now.
July 29, 2015 at 10:14 am
daneekasghost
I had votes on spacegirl all day due to her switches on day 1.
I even said so – https://spookymilk.wordpress.com/2015/07/28/werewolf-salmon-vs-sturgeon-day-two/#comment-64319
Don’t pretend like that vote came out of nowhere.
July 29, 2015 at 10:22 am
todahshy
Good point. I forgot about your silenced vote suspicions of spacegirl all day.
July 29, 2015 at 9:59 am
todahshy
Todahshy’s Tiers Of Suspicion:
I think this is the best way I can list where my head is at right now on everyone:
Tier 1 (most likely sturgeons):
Novak – I’ve been over this a million times.
Sherry – listed above the reasons why I feel suspicious of her right now
KG – staying out of the fray last night caught my eye. Getting a little defensive today too.
Tier 2 (I’ve caught my eye on you):
DG – Yeah…sturgeonishly alive, though once this became a thing he has been surviving as a villager now. I am more wary of how openly villagery he has been and his vote comment last night.
Roxanne – She was in my tier 1 yesterday, just other people passed her last night
Tier 2.5:
Inkarnit – we’ve been swindled too many times before for me to outright exonerate you based on the roles still out there.
Tier 3:
Stacy – I got nothing
Annette – I was suspicious of her yesterday but I feel like wolf Annette would have slipped up by now.
Me – I mean come on.
July 29, 2015 at 10:03 am
nettiebarron
Wait a minute….!
July 29, 2015 at 10:08 am
kg2005
Uhhh… hm. Inkarnit is 100% villager. I don’t know if this brain fart makes you more or less wolfy.
July 29, 2015 at 10:10 am
nettiebarron
How is he 100% villager? He could be Salamangela?
July 29, 2015 at 10:10 am
kg2005
I don’t understand the question and I refuse to respond.
July 29, 2015 at 10:13 am
todahshy
I use this quote so many times. So good.
July 29, 2015 at 10:11 am
mbnovak
Well, he’s 89% villager (9 of us left, one of those 9 would be peeked villager despite being a wolf, 11% chance it’s him, so we’ll call it 89% villager). Still, absolutely no reason to even list him right now. He’s in a seperate “do not consider” bubble, and isn’t worth paying attention to.
July 29, 2015 at 10:12 am
todahshy
That’s why he is in Tier 2.5 🙂
July 29, 2015 at 10:13 am
kg2005
So from this conversation I can successfully deduce that there are wolf roles that I didn’t read about.
World’s greatest detective.
July 29, 2015 at 10:19 am
daneekasghost
Yes. Because since when does KG care about roles?
July 29, 2015 at 10:11 am
daneekasghost
I’m really stuck on todahshy/novak.
Yesterday I ended up think todahshy, and I still certainly have suspicions there (the vote on spacegirl that followed novak after being suspicious of novak all day), then the targeting of sherrymac today, which I think is based on bad reasons
sherrymac’s vote on spacegirl serves very little purpose if she’s a wolf, there were enough other targets that there had to be at least one other villager, so why would a wolf change like that in the middle of a bandwagon? If she is a wolf, the only way that makes sense is if she’s protecting todahshy. Which… maybe she was, but I feel like a todahshy vote serves us better in that case.
Plus the credence todah gives to inkarnit’s “Sherry was absent and no silencing” theory is weird. Because that theory has nothing to back it up that I can see.
—-
So, then novak. Pitted opposite todahshy, so I wasn’t going to vote him yesterday, but as I read through his day 2, the obsession with interpreting the night kill is off.
Plus I can’t find his reasoning for spacegirl. He mentions her along with todahshy as potential sturgeons, but I never see him make an actual case. Correct me if I missed it.
—
Overall though, I still think todahshy is more wolf-ish. But I think one of them is a wolf, so now I’ve just got to find the other two.
July 29, 2015 at 10:20 am
mbnovak
The case for Spacegirl wasn’t so much a “case” as it was a reaction to what seemed an overtly wolf move. https://spookymilk.wordpress.com/2015/07/28/werewolf-salmon-vs-sturgeon-day-two/#comment-64391
Of course, I know I’m innocent, so that seemed really sketch to me.
Todahshy, if he didn’t know I was innocent, probably wouldn’t have seen that so sketchily. The fact that he jumped on, and so quickly, would suggest pretty strongly that he knew my innocence.
July 29, 2015 at 10:22 am
daneekasghost
There it is. Thank you.
July 29, 2015 at 10:24 am
todahshy
I had been waffling back and forth between you and Inkarnit all day. That weird post finally pushed in me in one direction (that appears to be the wrong direction).
July 29, 2015 at 10:33 am
daneekasghost
And here’s another thing. Todahshy’s case against kg makes a lot of sense to me.
So that’s confusing as well.
July 29, 2015 at 10:35 am
todahshy
In all the games I’ve played I have never seen him so defensive. I actually would feel better about a KG vote than a Novak vote right now.
July 29, 2015 at 10:13 am
sherrymac1031
I’m still seeing how today goes before I 100 percent decide but I’m not sure how to trap the wolf but I’m listening and learning.
July 29, 2015 at 10:17 am
Stacy Snell
Unvote Roxanne; Vote Novak
I agree that DG is most likely a Wolfy sturgeon, yesterday’s behavior was so strange but I am not quite used to behaviors just yet…maybe weird is just DGs thing. But I have been suspecting Novak since day 1
Leaving the vote on Sherrymac and not showing up for OT…not sure if thats normal for him or not but it surprised me nevertheless. I know you said you were busy but just think if you were going to leave your vote on someone, it would have been a better possibility. Sherry may be a wolf still but I think at that point, there were better options.
Yesterday, casting the diversion away from nettie who I believe has a high possibility of Wolfiness still…
Also, yesterday you pointed out that Inkarnit was instructing newbz as a possible argument toward being a wolf….which you have done just a bit ago.
Strong possibility here I believe….
July 29, 2015 at 10:18 am
daneekasghost
maybe weird is just DGs thing
heh.
July 29, 2015 at 10:23 am
mbnovak
if you were going to leave your vote on someone, it would have been a better possibility.
Thre are no better possibilities on day 1, especially as early as it was that I had to leave. I put it where I felt I had something – anything – to go on, and where it would hurt the village least if we were wrong. I’ve broken down why I cast that vote, and the reasoning stands (yesterday, for nibs).
Yesterday I exonerated Inkarnit for instruing new players – Todahshy suggested it was wolfy, I said that would be expected from him whether he was a wolf or salmon.
July 29, 2015 at 10:21 am
todahshy
I would just like to say, posting stuff like this made everyone convinced I was a wolf last game. This really caught my eye.
July 29, 2015 at 10:27 am
Stacy Snell
Ugh, todashy and novak….both very good arguments. I am interested to see how this plays out today. For now my vote stays on Novak.
July 29, 2015 at 10:28 am
mbnovak
How in any way is “last game someone said I was a wolf because I say what Novak says is like what I said in that game” a good argument? Especially to a new player?
July 29, 2015 at 10:29 am
todahshy
It’s the general talking about what the wolves are thinking about that trips the radar.
July 29, 2015 at 10:26 am
mbnovak
Unvote DG
Vote Todahshy
The fact that he assumed my innocence in response to Spacegirl last night speaks to him as a wolf.
July 29, 2015 at 10:33 am
todahshy
Where in that quote did I assume your innocence? I only thought you were more innocent looking than Inkarnit and spacegirl at that moment because of the out of nowhere comment by spacegirl backing Inkarnit for no reason. To me that screamed new wolf making a big mistake trying to save her fellow wolf.
All day I had discussed how I wasn’t sure which of you and Inkarnit was the wolf, I thought this was the piece of data I needed to make my most informed choice between the two of you. Clearly, I was wrong but now it just firms up my view of you.
You are getting so close to the win you can taste and knew you just had me so perfectly set up to be the fall guy. Take me down then the village can only miss one more time. I can feel your glee from here.
July 29, 2015 at 10:47 am
mbnovak
You are getting so close to the win you can taste and knew you just had me so perfectly set up to be the fall guy. Take me down then the village can only miss one more time. I can feel your glee from here.
Oh brother. Play to the reputation, or whatever. Even though that’s not how wolves operate – and certainly not how I’ve operated when I was a wolf. The wovles have all the leash they need. They can get lynched a few times and still be safe. No need to rush to victory and thereby ensure defeat. But you’re playing for the other people, trying to get them to vote for me, by throwing this kind of thing out there. I get it. But I’m gonna call you on it.
July 29, 2015 at 10:32 am
rockitlikeroxanne
I have been suspicious of Todahshy since yesterday when he jumped on the defensive for what seemed like all day, but I’m just not quite sure… Insert squinty eyes here
July 29, 2015 at 10:34 am
mbnovak
Alright, I need to go do some work right now. I’m dropping this list here before I go.
From most to least sturgeony:
Todahshy – I’ve discussed ad nasuem. Either he’s a sturgeon or playing a horrible, horrible, purposefully bad villager game.
DG – His move last night was textbook wolf. Perfectly executed, as one might expect.
…
Stacy – If I were a wolf and had a new player on my team, I’d try to coach them along kind of like how Stacy has been playing. Wouldn’t have been this high up if not for here most recent post giving creedence to Todahshy’s terrible logic.
KG – I just don’t have enough of a read on him yet. Wolves have been playing brilliantly, and that’s what I expect from KG as a wolf. His lack of attention to roles stands out as odd.
…
Sherry – Did the hiding thing, asking some basic questions could be an easy distraction.
Annette – Don’t have a read on her.
Roxanne – I just don’t see it.
…
Inkarnit.
July 29, 2015 at 10:39 am
todahshy
Wow I can feel the desperation from here, now you are just going to straight out trashing and insulting me? That escalated quickly. I can trash my own villager game on my own quite well thank you very much.
One thing about this list I found funny:
My post: “Stacy – I got nothing” – leading to Novak trashing my terrible logic and then we have:
Novak – “Roxanne – I just don’t see it.”
Uh ok.
July 29, 2015 at 10:49 am
mbnovak
I didn’t trash that comment you made on Stacy at all. Now you’re just outright lying.
July 29, 2015 at 10:41 am
nettiebarron
Where is Inkarnit? Maybe he’s been silenced, she says wistfully.
July 29, 2015 at 10:44 am
Stacy Snell
He showed up when you summoned him yesterday nettie…maybe it will work again! 🙂
July 29, 2015 at 10:43 am
Stacy Snell
“Stacy – If I were a wolf and had a new player on my team, I’d try to coach them along kind of like how Stacy has been playing. Wouldn’t have been this high up if not for here most recent post giving creedence to Todahshy’s terrible logic.”
Orrrrr…I could just be new and trying to figure out who to believe. This is TOUGH! haha
July 29, 2015 at 10:41 am
kg2005
Thoughts on todahshy-
I always tend to give him the benefit of the doubt. Everything he’s posted the last couple of days I thought “Yeah, he would post that as a villager”. So I’m not the best judge when it comes to him. I feel like he usually does the same thing with me. We’re BFFs and all.
That said, today he’s come after me a little bit. The only other time he’s done that was because he was a wolf and he could smell blood in the water. I’m not usually one for revenge voting, but this case sticks out to me.
Thoughts on DG-
The longer DG survives the more likely I am to think he’s a wolf. This game he has an excuse because nibbish was killed off last night and tomorrow it will be Inkarnit. He’s been posting some great thoughts on people that could be very helpful to the village. He usually does that more often when he’s a wolf, but then again that correlation has more to do with the fact that when he survives deeper into games he’s usually a wolf. The only way I can ever catch DG as a wolf is by ruling out everyone else. I haven’t been able to do that yet.
General thoughts-
I’m really frustrated that the angel didn’t try to save Nibbish last night.
July 29, 2015 at 10:44 am
todahshy
“I’m really frustrated that the angel didn’t try to save Nibbish last night”
I’ve been stewing over this as well.
July 29, 2015 at 11:59 am
daneekasghost
This is very non-committal.
July 29, 2015 at 12:04 pm
kg2005
Would it be more appropriate to commit to something?
July 29, 2015 at 12:06 pm
daneekasghost
You play your game. I’ll just comment on it.
July 29, 2015 at 12:08 pm
kg2005
So you’re not committing to anything?
July 29, 2015 at 12:10 pm
daneekasghost
I’m committing to pointing out things that catch my eye, like a post that uses a lot of words to say not much at all.
July 29, 2015 at 10:45 am
spookymilk
HEY, WHY NOT?
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daneekasghost 1
Inkarnit
kg2005
mbnovak 1 voting for todahshy
nettiebarron voting for daneekasghost
rockitlikeroxanne 1
sherrymac 1 voting for roxanne
Stacy Snell voting for mbnovak
todahshy 1 voting for sherrymac
Looks like we’ve got a wolf cornered, village! Ten hours and change until night. In four hours I leave for work, and I’m unlikely to be around much at all. I’ll pop in for flavor text if I’m able. Any questions for me should be emailed to me.
Tomorrow I’m off and will do nothing but waste my time running this game. Wheeeeee
July 29, 2015 at 10:49 am
spookymilk
mbnovak has been nominated to do a pro-sturgeon meme within 24 hours.
July 29, 2015 at 10:50 am
Inkarnit
vote Annette
unvote Annette
July 29, 2015 at 10:51 am
Stacy Snell
Ahhh seems like a silence….
July 29, 2015 at 10:51 am
Inkarnit
vote todahshy
July 29, 2015 at 10:51 am
todahshy
unvote sherry
Vote KG
I think he is moved passed sherry on my list based on the way he has been acting today.
July 29, 2015 at 10:52 am
kg2005
Hey guys! I thought of something. I considered not saying anything because I didn’t want to give the wolves any ideas, but now I think it’s more important to discuss the possibilities now because if I was a wolf and thought of this I would absolutely use it to screw over the village! But I want to make sure some people actually see it, so is there anyone still here?
July 29, 2015 at 10:53 am
kg2005
Okay, seems like some people, but I’d really like a DG or a Novak to bounce ideas off of. Inkarnit seems to be silenced and I’m not in total trust with Todah right now.
July 29, 2015 at 10:55 am
mbnovak
I’m checking in, but trying to get some work done too. Put it up, I’ll pop back over shortly.
July 29, 2015 at 10:59 am
nettiebarron
I’m here. And that’s all that really counts, right?
July 29, 2015 at 11:00 am
kg2005
That does count. I may have forgotten about you. I might be a bad person.
July 29, 2015 at 11:50 am
daneekasghost
soy aqui.
July 29, 2015 at 10:56 am
Stacy Snell
The PS hitting Novak is interesting. I in no way think this exonerates him. I think the timing is interesting though. Would be interested in hearing experienced thoughts on this.
July 29, 2015 at 10:58 am
kg2005
So here’s the thing- if I’m a wolf, there’s no way that I kill Inkarnit tonight.
Then the next day I come in and say “Oh look, the wolves didn’t kill Inkarnit, he must be Salamangela!”.
The village would definitely eat that up and lynch Inkarnit without a second thought, right? We need to be prepared for that.
July 29, 2015 at 11:08 am
mbnovak
I don’t think so. If I’m still around, I work my butt off to keep the village from lynching Inkarnit. Each villager should assume he is a villager, at least until we catch a few wolves that aren’t Salamangela. In fact, if he is Salamengella, we should leave him alive until the last day (assuming we catch the other wolves…)
On the last day there would be 1 wolf, and 2 villagers. Each villager would know their own villagerness, which means there’d be a 1 in 2 chance that Salamengella was the remaining wolf. 50/50, just like it would be in all normal last-day scenarios, and at that point there would be no reason to give creedence to Spacegirl’s peek. But until we hit that point, it is always mathematically more likely than not that Inkarnit is a villager.
So I expect him to be the night kill tonight.
Unless, of course, the angel was smart enough to not save either inkarnit or nibs last night, and just kept that save in his pocket so as to stymie the wolves on the second night of the known-villager kills.
July 29, 2015 at 11:10 am
todahshy
Oh look at Novak, the people’s champion. Fighting for us!
How can no one else see through this right now?! I feel like I’m taking crazy pills!!
July 29, 2015 at 11:15 am
kg2005
Hint: sometimes I pretend to take everything a person says at face value without actually doing so.
July 29, 2015 at 11:37 am
mbnovak
If you really are a villager, can I suggest you put some effort into hunting sturgeon, instead of just shouting about me?
July 29, 2015 at 11:40 am
todahshy
I’m not shouting at you. I’m pointing out the ways you are trying to subtly manipulate people. Which is what I call hunting sturgeon. I’ve also not solely been focused on you.
July 29, 2015 at 11:42 am
todahshy
I’m also pretty sure I’ve gone through the previous days and posted relevant info from it more than any other villager (other than the Inkarnit reports).
July 29, 2015 at 11:13 am
kg2005
Agreed, we should definitely not lynch Inkarnit. He just isn’t as easy of a night kill as I thought he might be tonight.
July 29, 2015 at 11:52 am
daneekasghost
If I’m a wolf I definitely kill inkarnit… and then say that nibbish is Salamangela.
July 29, 2015 at 11:03 am
Stacy Snell
I am not completely convinced of Novak’s innocence but his and kg’s exchanges with todashy have made todashy move up for me….
Unvote Novak ; Vote todahshy
July 29, 2015 at 11:07 am
todahshy
Looks like I’ll be joining you soon buddy #DDB
#thisvillageamiright
July 29, 2015 at 11:08 am
rockitlikeroxanne
I have been reading through the last few days, I have come to the conclusion that you are all sturgeon. Obviously SturgeonRUs had a sale on salmon masks, buy one get 7 free
July 29, 2015 at 11:09 am
rockitlikeroxanne
So in other words, I have nothing figured out.
July 29, 2015 at 11:09 am
rockitlikeroxanne
This game is impossible.
July 29, 2015 at 11:14 am
kg2005
We went through a streak of about 10 games where the wolves won every time. It was pretty demoralizing.
July 29, 2015 at 11:17 am
todahshy
Then Kelly mocks us from the shadows and demoralizes us even more.
July 29, 2015 at 11:28 am
Stacy Snell
It is VERY difficult. I have actually been trying to read back in the archives, read through the south park season….so hard to get a read on others! But its fun! 🙂
July 29, 2015 at 11:55 am
daneekasghost
South Park was still my favorite game even if I messed up my master plan on the day of the fake seer.
July 29, 2015 at 11:13 am
Inkarnit
unvote todahshy
vote DG
July 29, 2015 at 11:24 am
Inkarnit
unvote DG
vote DG
July 29, 2015 at 11:58 am
daneekasghost
with no rationale! What the hell?
July 29, 2015 at 11:27 am
Stacy Snell
Its not the same around here today without ya Inkarnit!
July 29, 2015 at 11:37 am
Stacy Snell
Ok, off today but I do need to get some things done. I will be back around 6ish central.
July 29, 2015 at 11:48 am
mbnovak
Ah cripes. I just… todahshy is fighting so hard. He’s so wrong, and is clinging to things that are just… bad thinking. But there is so much fight there. I don’t see him as clean, but I’m going DG for now. I think he’s a certain sturgeon.
unvote Todahshy
Vote DG
July 29, 2015 at 11:55 am
nettiebarron
Does he fight this hard when he’s a wolf? I don’t recall if I’ve ever seen him be a wolf.
July 29, 2015 at 11:48 am
todahshy
I have a little time so I am rereading Day 2:
Only in the morning but right now my takeaway is that I don’t think Sherrymac is a wolf. Her questions seemed like a genuine new player to me. If I’ve been fooled then so be it.
July 29, 2015 at 11:49 am
Inkarnit
unvote DG
vote Roxanne
unvote Roxanne
vote DG
July 29, 2015 at 11:51 am
nettiebarron
Unvote DG; Vote KG I’m pretty sure it’s one of you.
July 29, 2015 at 11:53 am
sherrymac1031
Idk what to think yet I have nothing to contribute because I’m still rereading the info Roxanne still never really here Annette same thing Stacy plays aggressive in every game which what leads me to take her off my list that’s just how Stacy plays but would also be a good reason to make her a wolf would be hard to determine if it’s jugs game play or if she was a wolf. Kg seems to becoming everyone suspect but I’m still not clear as to why.
July 29, 2015 at 12:16 pm
rockitlikeroxanne
I don’t understand why you think I haven’t been here, I have been on all day. Am I supposed to comment on everything said?
July 29, 2015 at 12:22 pm
todahshy
Not on everything said, but I would love to hear some sort of suspects list from you or anything else you’ve noticed from people that makes you worried.
July 29, 2015 at 12:35 pm
rockitlikeroxanne
Oh, I can do that, I’ll start reading back and making a list, should I include everyone? Or just the ones I think are suspects?
July 29, 2015 at 12:35 pm
todahshy
It’s usually better for the village if you try to include thoughts everyone.
July 29, 2015 at 12:02 pm
todahshy
Ok, other odd things I found:
Regarding KG: https://spookymilk.wordpress.com/2015/07/28/werewolf-salmon-vs-sturgeon-day-two/#comment-64327
Says Novak is top suspect but doesn’t want to kill him. I always find that odd. Doesn’t mention anything specific about roxanne, his eventual vote.
July 29, 2015 at 12:07 pm
kg2005
It was the same line of thinking for both. I’d rather keep someone around who is going to contribute in some way. It’s day three now though, if I’m leaning hard on a wolf I wouldn’t want to wait anymore.
Specifically, I went with Roxanne because of her strange vote the night before (for the reason that Will pointed out).
July 29, 2015 at 12:04 pm
todahshy
Roxanne: https://spookymilk.wordpress.com/2015/07/28/werewolf-salmon-vs-sturgeon-day-two/#comment-64132
Her lone accusation of the entire game is based on false information.
No good explanation for her Day 1 vote that caught Will’s eye.
Again leaves with no help, leaves vote on spacegirl for good.
Really concerned about the accusing people with half truths thing. That is the mark of a sturgeon.
July 29, 2015 at 12:27 pm
rockitlikeroxanne
First, I did not know that it was a “half truth” I really just didn’t read through the day well enough, and isn’t everyone just going off of half truths? None of us know for sure who is who.
Second I have my reasoning, and you linked it here, and I acknowledged that I didn’t have anything solid, and that I was equally suspicious about Annette and DP so I had to just pick one.
And third I left my vote on space girl because even though my information was wrong in the beginning the fact that she wasn’t very active all day was still true and the majority was starting to lean towards her so I thought I was on to something.
I find it interesting that you are trying so hard to convince everyone that I am a sturgeon, trying to distract from yourself maybe? Hmmm….
July 29, 2015 at 12:10 pm
todahshy
I know everyone is sick of me vs. Novak. But I did find a few interesting things about him as I read through.
Mentions he wants to “paint some good targets” which only caught my eye because I remembered how he later used that term:
He also seemed to try to avoid taking a definitive stance on any issue even when directly asked: https://spookymilk.wordpress.com/2015/07/28/werewolf-salmon-vs-sturgeon-day-two/#comment-64107
I thought that convo was a good example since it was with a known villager.
Finally, now this may just be amusing to me but notice what he says regarding Colin’s elimination to nibbish:
He says “It feels like an elimination we should be able to gather something from.”
Then notice what he uses to go at me later in the day:
The fact that I had tried to learn something from Colin’s elimination!
July 29, 2015 at 12:14 pm
kg2005
I want to know why people think villagers should be definitive. As a villager I know exactly nothing about anything.
July 29, 2015 at 12:17 pm
daneekasghost
Personally, I think that if I’m definitive that forces people to react to me. Which can be helpful in seeing who reacts in ways consistent with more knowledge than I do.
July 29, 2015 at 12:24 pm
daneekasghost
*more knowledge than I have.
You know what I meant.
July 29, 2015 at 12:26 pm
kg2005
I know what you mean. And it’s a good tactic for you. I just don’t think that it’s a good clue about other people. I’ve always felt it was more wolfy when people talk like they know exactly what’s going on.
July 29, 2015 at 12:29 pm
daneekasghost
Well trust me, I know exactly what’s going on, and it’s better to be definitive.
July 29, 2015 at 12:19 pm
todahshy
I view it more as setting yourself up for deniability when someone tries to accuse you later.
July 29, 2015 at 12:23 pm
todahshy
As in when you are a wolf and know who the villagers are it is tough to take a clear stance against them knowing the village will come after you when it all blows up.
July 29, 2015 at 12:24 pm
kg2005
Well, that’s a good point, except for it assumes guilt. Which is fine if you’re trying to make it fit a narrative. But by itself it doesn’t say much.
July 29, 2015 at 12:18 pm
spookymilk
Eh, what the hell:
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.
.
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daneekasghost 2
Inkarnit voting for daneekasghost
kg2005 2
mbnovak voting for daneekasghost
nettiebarron voting for kg2005
rockitlikeroxanne 1
sherrymac voting for roxanne
Stacy Snell voting for todahshy
todahshy 1 voting for kg2005
Eight and two-thirds hours to go; five’s a majority.
July 29, 2015 at 12:35 pm
kg2005
Novak- can you lay out your reasoning for DG as a wolf a little bit?
July 29, 2015 at 1:04 pm
mbnovak
Case against DG:
He wasn’t the night 1 kill. He was silenced, so there would be less to look back on and tie him to if he’s outed as a wolf. When he wasn’t silenced any more he didn’t really come out in force, he still just sat back and was opportunistic. The comment and vote last night on Spacegirl were textbook wolf, jumping on a bandwagon but doing their best to look unsuspicious in doing so, while also encouraging others to do so. That’s the case. But that move last night is just, like I said, textbook. I don’t see villager DG doing that. I see villager DG laying out a real reason (or no reason at all, because he didn’t really need one), not “looks like a wolf cracking” or whatever the comment was.
July 29, 2015 at 1:10 pm
kg2005
Interesting. Would you say that DG as a wolf is capable of making a textbook wolf move?
July 29, 2015 at 1:15 pm
mbnovak
Yes. Especially in a crunch time situation like that last night. Spacegirl really came from out of the blue to be a target, so I can see him getting caught up in that pretty easily. I mean, the idea here is that he “played it just right.” That’s precisely what makes it textbook, and precisely why it seems so wolf-DG to me. I don’t see villager DG flawlessly executing a textbook wolf move like that.
July 29, 2015 at 1:19 pm
kg2005
This is good stuff. I’ve been shrugging off almost everything you’ve had to say for the last couple of days, but I’m coming around on you now.
July 29, 2015 at 2:14 pm
daneekasghost
OK, let’s do this.
He wasn’t the night 1 kill. He was silenced
sorry.
When he wasn’t silenced any more he didn’t really come out in force,
I came out with direct questions to three players and laid out reasoning for my votes during the day on four others (including spacegirl). I’m not sure what you expected, but to say I sat back is inaccurate.
jumping on a bandwagon but doing their best to look unsuspicious in doing so, while also encouraging others to do so.
I was on spacegirl all day. I mentioned why I voted spacegirl when I was no longer silenced. I voted with two minutes to go, not much time to whip up a bandwagon that was already going full steam.
You’re framing this as though I just decided to vote spacegirl because everyone else was, when in fact I was voting spacegirl before anyone else was.
July 29, 2015 at 2:24 pm
mbnovak
I don’t think it’s fair to say you were on Spacegirl all day. It’s also not fair to say you weren’t. Your inability to communicate clearly means we don’t know what you were thinking or would have said, so we can’t put any stock into that. That said, you ended up changing your vote to Inkarnit before too long, and did so over Todahshy who seems to have been your other chief contender. You didn’t stick with Spacegirl and push for her. So framing it as “I was voting spacegirl first” doesn’t really do much for me. When the bandwagon got going, you hopped on in a way that a wolf would usually do. The fact that it was “back on” instead of “on for the first time” isn’t particularly relevant to that fact. And it’s particularly less relevant given that we now know Spacegirl was a salmon, and you were wrongly on her in the first place.
July 29, 2015 at 2:32 pm
daneekasghost
I don’t think it’s fair to say you were on Spacegirl all day.
I was the first person to call attention to spacegirl during the day.
From 7:30 until the deadline, I was voting for spacegirl for all but 15 of those 90 minutes.
I hopped on the bandwagon because I saw merit to the fact that she was a wolf, as I had *all day*.
I didn’t put reasoning in that vote because I had already talked about it and there were only two minutes left, a time where people are putting down their last votes, not making arguments.
And if you’re going to go after me because I voted for a salmon, there’s 8 million – 4 other salmon out there who haven’t lynched a sturgeon.
July 29, 2015 at 2:38 pm
mbnovak
I can see your reasoning, but I can’t credit it too much, obviously.
July 29, 2015 at 3:37 pm
sherrymac1031
That’s true I looked up what u said and that’s what made me think space girl was logical choice her lack of answers and her odd voting
July 29, 2015 at 12:41 pm
spookymilk
It’s a long process, but I felt like tossing out the progress on the self-hosted site:
http://casadeleche.com/
July 29, 2015 at 12:42 pm
spookymilk
Huh. Maybe not. When I’m logged in I can see the changes that have gone live, but when I’m not, it’s still just the template. Sigh…
July 29, 2015 at 12:43 pm
daneekasghost
I see things about PWTP, the main event, power house, cutthroat junction…
July 29, 2015 at 12:49 pm
spookymilk
Okay, although now it should look as intended (with changes still coming often). Just updated it in the last few minutes.
July 29, 2015 at 12:43 pm
daneekasghost
ooh.
July 29, 2015 at 12:45 pm
kg2005
I see one very important game missing.
July 29, 2015 at 12:49 pm
spookymilk
Heh, yeah. It’ll find a home there. I don’t know where everything will sit yet.
July 29, 2015 at 12:42 pm
daneekasghost
kg – the roxanne vote with no push behind it last night is off-putting. He said he didn’t like the inkarnit or todahshy votes, but was on inkarnit and never really gave a reason for getting off that train. He’s been climbing my list today, and I have a theory where he and roxanne are both wolves that I can’t shake.
novak – every time I go back and read his game I find myself thinking he’s clean. So I guess I think he’s clean.
nettiebarron – need to read more on her. She really is just unremarkable in this game.
roxanne – I think wolf. Not just because of the kg-roxanne possibility, but a comment like this – https://spookymilk.wordpress.com/2015/07/29/werewolf-salmon-vs-sturgeon-day-three/#comment-64510 lights up my suspicions.
sherrymac – I think clean. Questions and actions seem to come from a very villager place. If she’s a wolf, we’ve got a serious player on our hands.
Stacy – need to read more on her.
todahshy – The complaining about having 2 votes on him is awfully defensive and reinforces my thoughts on him. I laid out some reasons above, but what I haven’t done is gone through and figured out if he makes sense with some of my other potential wolves.
vote: roxanne
Off to read nettie and Stacy’s games.
July 29, 2015 at 12:45 pm
daneekasghost
Oh yeah – inkarnit – suspiciously quiet and prone to voting without giving justifications today. Probably clean.
July 29, 2015 at 12:47 pm
todahshy
It was 3 at the time 🙂
And it’s more the feeling that I am just talking to a brick wall that has me frustrated/defensive rather than any votes against me.
July 29, 2015 at 12:51 pm
daneekasghost
Been there.
July 29, 2015 at 12:58 pm
rockitlikeroxanne
Why does that make you suspicious?
July 29, 2015 at 1:03 pm
daneekasghost
Suspicion without action makes me think you’re pushing the votes toward todahshy without putting a vote down on him, which is not a bad play for a wolf.
July 29, 2015 at 1:05 pm
rockitlikeroxanne
This was only done that way because at the time it seemed like others were leaning that way, and I didn’t want to vote him out without more research.
July 29, 2015 at 1:00 pm
nettiebarron
“Unremarkable”? OUCH!
July 29, 2015 at 1:03 pm
daneekasghost
Who is this?
July 29, 2015 at 12:57 pm
daneekasghost
OK I lied, I’m not reading annette and stacy’s games. I’m going to lunch.
July 29, 2015 at 1:03 pm
daneekasghost
Now. Lunch. Leaving.
July 29, 2015 at 1:20 pm
kg2005
Luncheon?
July 29, 2015 at 1:29 pm
Inkarnit
unvote DG
vote DG
July 29, 2015 at 4:04 pm
todahshy
More like a LONGcheon
July 29, 2015 at 1:07 pm
rockitlikeroxanne
My list, as requested.
#1 wolf suspect- Tadahshy
Been on the defensive since the begging and has been leading everyone towards me for two days now, seems like a desperate attempt to pull his butt from the flame, because all he really has on me is my timing on day one.
#2 wolf suspect- Sherry Mac
Says she doesn’t think it’s me because as a sturgeon I would have taken her out and says she hasn’t tagged a sturgeon yet, but keeps her vote on me. Maybe she is sticking with Tadahshy, possibly to save a fellow sturgeon.
#3 wolf suspect- Inkarnit
Appears to be doing the most hunting (next to Tadahshy) but I feel like he is trying to hard to look like a hunter in order to distract from being a sturgeon. And his lists make him seem as if he knows exactly what’s going on with everyone and someone pointed out that that is how sturgeons tend to act in these games.
Stacy Snell and Nettiebar fall into the same place for me, no matter how many times I look at their game I am just not sure either way, I go minute to minute changing my mind on whether they are sturgeon or salmon. I guess I need to see more gameplay from both to make any assumptions.
I am pretty sure mbnovak is not a sturgeon, nothing has stood out to me as suspicious, but there is still time.
Daneekasghost for some reason, I can not get a read on you at all. It’s quite upsetting and I will keep reading and hopefully will come back with some better thoughts.
July 29, 2015 at 1:26 pm
rockitlikeroxanne
If someone claims I wasn’t around today I swear… This was a lot of work, props to those who do these lists multiple times.
July 29, 2015 at 1:38 pm
mbnovak
You really shouldn’t have Inkarnit as a wolf suspect though. He’s off limits right now.
July 29, 2015 at 1:40 pm
rockitlikeroxanne
He is off limits?
July 29, 2015 at 1:44 pm
mbnovak
Yes. I broke it down here:
The short version is, if we reach 3 people left in the game, then and only then is Inkarnit mathematically back to even with everyone else. Until that time, he’s more likely to be a villager, because of Spacegirl’s peek.
July 29, 2015 at 1:47 pm
rockitlikeroxanne
That’s why he is at #3, space girls peek definitely moved him down in my possibilities, but he could be the sturgeon with the power to look like a salmon (can’t remember the name) so he remains on my list of suspicions.
July 29, 2015 at 1:57 pm
mbnovak
Mathematically speaking, it has eliminated him until the final day, if we get that far.
July 29, 2015 at 1:08 pm
rockitlikeroxanne
Vote Tadahshy
July 29, 2015 at 1:27 pm
rockitlikeroxanne
Todahshy
July 29, 2015 at 1:31 pm
kg2005
Don’t worry, I got it wrong at least once this game.
July 29, 2015 at 1:29 pm
sherrymac1031
I’m sticking with you Roxanne because honestly until now you haven’t give us any output so thank you and good afternoon thanks for posting girl.
July 29, 2015 at 1:33 pm
rockitlikeroxanne
I’m just going to chalk that up to being new, I spent some time observing how to hunt and how to reason it out, so now I am trying to post more, because I had no idea lack of posts made you look like a sturgeon.
July 29, 2015 at 1:22 pm
kg2005
Mike, as your name has now been misspelled for what seems like the millionth time, I have to ask. What’s the inspiration behind “todahshy”?
July 29, 2015 at 1:32 pm
todahshy
A misspelling of the Japanese word for correct! As inspired by the SNL Japanese Game Show skit with Mike Myers and Chris Farley.
I mean how could you not get that reference?
July 29, 2015 at 1:43 pm
kg2005
Mother of mercy I don’t speak Japanese!
July 29, 2015 at 1:44 pm
mbnovak
Nobody does.
July 29, 2015 at 2:07 pm
Inkarnit
unvote DG
vote todahshy
unvote todahshy
vote Roxanne
unvote Roxanne
vote DG
July 29, 2015 at 2:15 pm
mbnovak
How many e-mails do you think Inkarnit is sending Spooky today? It’s gotta just be a constant stream, right?
July 29, 2015 at 2:36 pm
nettiebarron
Hundreds.
July 29, 2015 at 2:12 pm
spookymilk
Another “it’s quiet, so why not?” update…
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daneekasghost 2 voting for roxanne
Inkarnit voting for daneekasghost
kg2005 2
mbnovak voting for daneekasghost
nettiebarron voting for kg2005
rockitlikeroxanne 2 voting for todahshy
sherrymac voting for roxanne
Stacy Snell voting for todahshy
todahshy 2 voting for kg2005
A little under seven hours to go. I’ve got another hour-plus before I leave.
July 29, 2015 at 2:46 pm
Inkarnit
unvote DG
vote Roxanne
July 29, 2015 at 2:51 pm
nettiebarron
I’m going to go out on a limb here and guess that Inkarnit’s guesses for sturgeons are Roxanne, Todahshy and DG.
July 29, 2015 at 3:03 pm
Inkarnit
unvote Roxanne
vote Annette
unvote Annette
vote todahshy
July 29, 2015 at 3:05 pm
todahshy
Ok, so just got back from doing a couple things in the lab and of course all I did was think about werewolf… and I cannot believe I am about to say this but I think I have been way off on Novak. My main critique of him the whole game has been pointing out inconsistencies with his theories and accusations.
However, the more I thought about Matt and more specifically wolf Matt, I feel like wolf Matt would not be talking as much and would make sure all of his thoughts tied together perfectly. I’m starting to think we got in a villager/villager war against each other with the wolves just sitting back and enjoying the show. By no means is he off my radar but for now I am much more comfortable with a KG or Roxanne vote (KG specifically).
July 29, 2015 at 3:10 pm
rockitlikeroxanne
Is Matt Novak? This confused me a lot.
July 29, 2015 at 3:11 pm
todahshy
Yeah sorry Matt = Novak = mbnovak
July 29, 2015 at 3:15 pm
nettiebarron
This reasonable Todahshy makes me very squinty eyed.
July 29, 2015 at 3:40 pm
todahshy
Why? Because you can no longer hide behind my terrible game play?
July 29, 2015 at 4:01 pm
todahshy
I forgot to add, I also don’t think wolf Novak goes so all in against me like that and I know wolf Me would not be doing the same thing to him.
July 29, 2015 at 3:06 pm
Inkarnit
unvote todahshy
unvote todahshy
unvote todahshy
vote DG
July 29, 2015 at 3:08 pm
todahshy
We understand you think me, Roxanne and DG are the sturgeon. Now go away! We get 5 more hours of peace! 🙂
July 29, 2015 at 3:16 pm
mbnovak
This might be him changing his mind on you?
No matter what he’s actually saying, I think we should just intentionally misinterpret it.
In other words, I take this post to suggest that Sherry sent him a note in math class telling him to vote for Annette.
July 29, 2015 at 3:43 pm
sherrymac1031
I haven’t voted Annette sk why would I send him a note and you can’t do that against the rules
July 29, 2015 at 3:26 pm
todahshy
Why is KG not putting a vote down?
July 29, 2015 at 3:29 pm
Inkarnit
unvote DG
vote KG
July 29, 2015 at 3:32 pm
todahshy
Todahshy’s updated Tiers of Sadness:
Tier 1:
KG
Roxanne
DG
Tier 2:
Stacy – the coached up theory intrigues me
Annette – how can someone be this unremarkable for this long without it being intentional?
mbnovak
Tier 2.5:
Inkarnit
Tier 3:
Sherry
Me
July 29, 2015 at 3:41 pm
nettiebarron
Now you’re just copying DG. STOP CALLING ME UNREMARKABLE! Especially, since you both have now remarked about it.
July 29, 2015 at 3:42 pm
todahshy
We can’t help but remark at your unremarkableness.
July 29, 2015 at 3:44 pm
sherrymac1031
I kinda of agree your just not saying anything
July 29, 2015 at 3:45 pm
nettiebarron
Well, neither are you Sherry, yet they aren’t calling you unremarkable.
July 29, 2015 at 3:46 pm
sherrymac1031
So Annette what is your current list if not u then who?
July 29, 2015 at 3:54 pm
nettiebarron
I’m always suspicious of DG . . . but that’s just because I know he’s good at this game.
Currently, my vote is on KG, because he seems not very helpful, unlike other games where I think he was a more active wolf hunter.
I was with you on Roxanne, but now I’m waffling a little as she seems to now be getting in the swing of the hunting business. She still could be a newb sturgeon though and I think she bears watching.
Stacy has me nervous; I think she could very well be a sturgeon.
Just can’t decide about Novak/Todahshy – it would be awesome if they both are sturgeon, as I sway back and forth depending on which one of them is the most elequent at the moment.
I started out the day thinking that the DG/KG/Novak pack might be a thing.
You are pretty far down on my list of suspects.
Novak says math means Inkarnit is at the bottom of my list, but I don’t like it.
I think that about covers it.
July 29, 2015 at 4:05 pm
nettiebarron
ELOQUENT! (geez)
July 29, 2015 at 4:30 pm
kg2005
Currently, my vote is on KG, because he seems not very helpful, unlike other games where I think he was a more active wolf hunter.
What am I, magic? I’ve been trying all day.
July 29, 2015 at 3:53 pm
todahshy
unvote KG
Vote Annette
July 29, 2015 at 3:57 pm
Inkarnit
unvote KG
vote todahshy
unvote todahshy
unvote Annette
unvote Annette
vote DG
unvote DG
vote KG
July 29, 2015 at 3:59 pm
todahshy
I only vote cuz I wanted a list. Now I got one so I’m going back. Don’t worry Lassie!
July 29, 2015 at 4:00 pm
todahshy
unvote Annette
Vote KG
July 29, 2015 at 4:08 pm
Inkarnit
unvote KG
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vote DG
unvote DG
vote Stacy
unvote Stacy
vote Roxanne
unvote Roxanne
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vote Annette
unvote Annette
vote KG
unvote KG
vote sherrymac
unvote sherrymac
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vote todahshy
unvote todahshy
vote Novak
unvote Novak
vote Inkarnit
unvote Inkarnit
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vote KG
July 29, 2015 at 4:10 pm
todahshy
Well done! I don’t even have anything snarky to say.
July 29, 2015 at 4:37 pm
daneekasghost
Remarks on Annette’s game:
July 29, 2015 at 4:37 pm
daneekasghost
oops. hit enter too soon.
July 29, 2015 at 4:42 pm
mbnovak
I’m heading home for the day, and will check in periodically throughout the night. No going to the pool or anything like that for me tonight, as of right now.
July 29, 2015 at 4:49 pm
kg2005
New theory: Annette and Todah are two of the wolves.
1. Annette has been so quiet. She doesn’t consider herself a good wolf, so she’s not saying much in the hopes that she doesn’t get caught saying anything.
2. Todah constantly spends more time accusing people of trying to make themselves look like villagers rather than finding reasons that they are wolves.
3. Todah puts the kill vote on Will with 5 minutes left in overtime to discuss, thereby saving Annette.
4. https://spookymilk.wordpress.com/2015/07/29/werewolf-salmon-vs-sturgeon-day-three/#comment-64649
This comment is all sorts of red flags. Todah puts Annette in the second teir, still feels compelled to say something about her, but copies exactly what DG had said about her earlier. He’s trying to be disconnected from her but doesn’t know how to do it without help. Asks how someone can be so unremarkable without it being unintentional, but ranks her fifth on the wolf scale?
July 29, 2015 at 5:02 pm
nettiebarron
Also, I’m quiet because I am working. I should never have agreed to play a werewolf game at the end of the month, which is a very busy time for me.
July 29, 2015 at 5:07 pm
kg2005
Okay, that’s fair. My other points still stand.
July 29, 2015 at 5:08 pm
todahshy
I’m sorry I tried to make a joke?
July 29, 2015 at 5:10 pm
kg2005
What?
July 29, 2015 at 5:15 pm
todahshy
My unremarkable Annette joke. I quoted DG on purpose because it riled her up so much.
July 29, 2015 at 5:17 pm
kg2005
Then what do you think of Annette’s game so far?
July 29, 2015 at 6:47 pm
todahshy
I see what you see. I think she is afraid to screw up so she is being quiet. I just think there are bigger targets on the board right now before I vote for her tonight.
July 29, 2015 at 4:51 pm
daneekasghost
There was literally no rationale put forth by any of the three nettiebarron voters at the end of day 1. Stacy was the only person to say anything about her nettie vote and she said it was because nettie mentioned that kelp was nasty.
She didn’t vote for DP before nightfall, but did during overtime.
Revenge vote on Stacy on day 2 early otherwise it’s just been votes to get people talking (her words). If it’s a villager game it hasn’t been aggressive at all, if it’s a wolf game it’s a lying low and staying off the radar game.
My interpretation (for whatever that’s worth) is that after getting bandwagoned on day 1, she has pulled way back and stayed away from any kind of controversial vote (the most glaring example was the novak vote yesterday that she retracted quickly when the update showed 4 votes on him). This kind of game isn’t something that gets you put at the top of anyone’s list, including mine. But I’m wary of nettie, and I’m interested to see when she weighs in on a vote, how it will play.
Wolf scale, I would put her behind roxanne, kg, todahshy, but ahead of novak, sherry, and inkarnit.
July 29, 2015 at 5:01 pm
nettiebarron
Well, at least you remembered I’m playing. So that’s something.
July 29, 2015 at 4:57 pm
daneekasghost
LET’S UPDATE THE VOTING WITH A VOTING UPDATE
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kg2005 (3)
rockitlikeroxanne (2) voting for todahshy
todahshy (2) voting for kg2005
daneekasghost (1) voting for roxanne
Inkarnit voting for kg2005
mbnovak voting for daneekasghost
nettiebarron voting for kg2005
sherrymac voting for roxanne
Stacy Snell voting for todahshy
4 hours and change until night
Majority is 5.
July 29, 2015 at 5:16 pm
spookymilk
Ugh…home again, but I don’t know how long. Very, very weird couple of days of events at my apartment complex. My one friend here – the head maintenance guy as well as the stepfather of my daughters’ close friends – died yesterday under sudden and somewhat mysterious circumstances. As the story unravels it’s just getting weirder.
I’ll probably be going back to work soon, assuming my daughters are fine, but either way I doubt I’ll be around here as much as I’d like.
I am not looking forward to hearing more details about this. I think it’s going to get worse.
July 29, 2015 at 6:18 pm
The Dread Pirate
*** dead ***
Ugh, sorry to hear that. From your description, you should see if Special Agent Dale Cooper can help get to the bottom of it.
*** still dead ***
July 29, 2015 at 5:53 pm
daneekasghost
unvote: roxanne – vote: todahshy
I’m bored with voting for roxanne for now, and kg has plenty of votes already, so I’m voting for my other wolf suspect.
July 29, 2015 at 6:01 pm
daneekasghost
Not that it matters since a vote is going to materialize out of nowhere at 8:45 anyway. Since that is a technique that’s been proven ineffective over and over and over again you can see why the village keeps at it.
July 29, 2015 at 6:02 pm
Inkarnit
unvote KG
vote DG
July 29, 2015 at 6:12 pm
Inkarnit
unvote DG
vote Annette
unvote Annette
vote Annette
unvote Annette
vote Annette
unvote Annette
vote Annette
July 29, 2015 at 6:31 pm
Stacy Snell
Ok, I am back….ugh had a viewing to go to for a co-workers husband. Crazy…young guy just keeled over with a heart attack. So sudden and so sad.
Now that I have reread, some thoughts:
Todashy: “However, the more I thought about Matt and more specifically wolf Matt, I feel like wolf Matt would not be talking as much and would make sure all of his thoughts tied together perfectly.”
I actually had been feeling like that since I left. As I was playing this through in my mind it is hard not to double guess myself being so new at this. However, I had to start thinking like a wolf and I don’t think I would be all that vocal unless it was to defend a fellow wolf. But someone like Novak would realize that and be more subtle even with that. Again, not an exoneration but Novak has moved down on my list of suspects.
Nettie: “Stacy has me nervous; I think she could very well be a sturgeon.”
Nettie, I make MYSELF nervous haha! I am legitimately flying by seat of my pants here trying to analyze everything. Its so hard when you don’t really know how people normally behave. You do seem very quiet to me which is how I would be if I were a wolf so YOU make ME nervous hah!
KG why don’t you have a vote out there?
Todashy, I would love to hear your response to KG’s question to you about nettie’s game so far….thoughts?
DG – I just don’t know about you. Others have thrown your name around so much but just nothing that sounds convincing enough for me.
DG – I would love to hear your thoughts on Roxanne though. I am just not seeing a wolf there, but again new to this so if you don’t mind…help a newb out haha.
At this very moment….
Unvote Todashy ; Vote KG
July 29, 2015 at 6:51 pm
todahshy
I just replied to KG up above. She had such a colossal fail in her first game as a wolf that I could see her just being silent and out of the way, petrified to make another mistake. However, in the games since then she has also been pretty quiet so her unremarkableness is not enough for me to go and think she is the village’s best target tonight.
I had her 5th in my last set of rankings. I think she could move up to 3rd or 4th soon with DG dropping a bit, this afternoon he seems to be hunting again.
July 29, 2015 at 7:04 pm
nettiebarron
I would also like to point out that I am on the West Coast. I am still at work up until 7:00 central and then I am in transit, sometimes almost right up until NIGHT is called. So, there’s that. I believe you will find a “she’s quiet, let’s lynch her” comment in every single werewolf game I’ve played.
July 29, 2015 at 7:15 pm
Stacy Snell
Thanks both of you for the insight. Again, its hard when you really don’t know peoples habits/schedules etc.
July 29, 2015 at 7:13 pm
rockitlikeroxanne
Unvote Todahshy Vote Sherry Mac
Nettiebar made a good point, why is no one acknowledging that Sherry has been “unremarkable” the last few days as well, seems like she is trying to fly under the radar while we focus on Annette’s absence.
July 29, 2015 at 7:14 pm
rockitlikeroxanne
Yes! Finally sent, I think my app is having issues, been trying to put this in for an hour now! Gonna reset my phone and hope it gets fixed, sorry for being scarce for the last few hours!
July 29, 2015 at 7:16 pm
mbnovak
That’s all Sherry has been accused of.
My hesitation on you is that you’re popping out of nowhere to pitch bad observations, instead of doing so when called upon. If it were more prompted, I’d be thinking new wolf player.
July 29, 2015 at 7:18 pm
mbnovak
Sorry if I seem like a jerk in this comment. Don’t mean to. Werewolf is not conducive to making friends…
July 29, 2015 at 7:23 pm
todahshy
I hadn’t noticed you were being a jerk today 😥
July 29, 2015 at 7:24 pm
rockitlikeroxanne
I don’t see it as a bad observation, she has been scarce the whole game. She is also my second pick as wolf as you can see in my list above, and I am trying to see if she will pop in for a defense as well, it’s still early and this may or may not be my final vote but I thought we were supposed to use the votes all day to narrow down our search. And like I said, it was a reaction to what Nettiebar pointed out in her comment but the WordPress app sucks so it took me awhile.
July 29, 2015 at 7:16 pm
Stacy Snell
That hasn’t gone unnoticed for me either Roxanne. However, I am not quite sure if it is just a situation of trying to get used to the game….ORRRR is she using that as a ploy?
Not enough for me to vote her at this point but I am keeping an eye on that chickie! 😉
July 29, 2015 at 7:15 pm
spookymilk
1:45 left to go. We’re in the dead hours, folks.
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daneekasghost 1 voting for todahshy
Inkarnit voting for nettiebarron
kg2005 3
mbnovak voting for daneekasghost
nettiebarron 1 voting for kg2005
rockitlikeroxanne 1 voting for sherrymac
sherrymac 1 voting for roxanne
Stacy Snell voting for kg2005
todahshy 1 voting for kg2005
July 29, 2015 at 7:21 pm
todahshy
Oh DG totally out of the game comment. I remember on Day 1 you asked if creepy gnome game was the last game we played. Then I got thinking, wasn’t Back to the Future the last game we played? Or am I all confused on the timeline?
July 29, 2015 at 8:11 pm
daneekasghost
I believe B2TF was before swingtack, but I’ll check it at some point.
July 29, 2015 at 8:19 pm
The Dread Pirate
*** Dead ***
You are correct. Also, TAG sucks!
*** Redeaded ***
July 29, 2015 at 7:50 pm
daneekasghost
Minor disaster at home (nothing serious) but I’ll be back shortly, I think.
July 29, 2015 at 8:05 pm
mbnovak
Was it poop all over? That’s what I just dealt with!
July 29, 2015 at 8:10 pm
daneekasghost
more emotional than that. We’re more or less good at this point.
July 29, 2015 at 8:15 pm
mbnovak
What could possibly be more emotional than poop?
July 29, 2015 at 8:16 pm
daneekasghost
that’s what took me so long to find out.
July 29, 2015 at 8:09 pm
rockitlikeroxanne
Hope everything is ok!
July 29, 2015 at 8:11 pm
daneekasghost
all good. Thanks.
July 29, 2015 at 7:57 pm
Inkarnit
unvote Annette
vote kg
July 29, 2015 at 8:02 pm
kg2005
Hey, I come back to four votes against me when five is a majority with an hour left? That’s beautiful. Maybe let’s back off for a bit, folks? I wouldn’t want you to do anything you couldn’t take back.
July 29, 2015 at 8:03 pm
kg2005
And welcome back to the speaking world, Inkarnit. Mind telling me why you’ve been so enamored with me lately?
July 29, 2015 at 8:07 pm
Inkarnit
I’ve just wanted to get your attention and get you to speak up. It’s the only method I had to get you.
July 29, 2015 at 8:05 pm
todahshy
unvote kg
July 29, 2015 at 8:05 pm
spookymilk
55 MINUTES LEFT
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daneekasghost 1 voting for todahshy
Inkarnit voting for kg2005
kg2005 4
mbnovak voting for daneekasghost
nettiebarron voting for kg2005
rockitlikeroxanne 1 voting for sherrymac
sherrymac 1 voting for roxanne
Stacy Snell voting for kg2005
todahshy 1 voting for kg2005
Five’s a majority.
July 29, 2015 at 8:06 pm
todahshy
I don’t like the fact that literally no other option is being presented other than KG.
Either the wolves are cutting bait or we have the wrong guy. Ugggggggh this game.
July 29, 2015 at 8:09 pm
Stacy Snell
I thought about that too…no one has tried to steer us away from KG
July 29, 2015 at 8:06 pm
Inkarnit
Good job on timing kelp thrower. I was literally mid post when I got the email. I was going to point out what Novak already did regarding the math on me and while I could be Salamangela you shouldn’t take that chance right now. That’s been established. Also, why does the logic of “one of the new people must be a wolf” gain any traction? “I’m new and it’s not me so it must be…” Should never be said.
I see Annette isn’t getting any traction. Why? I read back through her game and she’s offered nothing of substance. At all. She moved votes around while specifically saying she hadn’t voted for that person yet. Annette, can you give us some insight other than explaining absence?
DG… This is my top sturgeon choice right now. He’s playing the new players who aren’t used to his antics but he’s really just good at playing people period.
Stacy… Read back through her game guys. If I weren’t in KFC right now I’d do it for you.
KG… You’re way more absent than usual. What’s up? Help a private out!
July 29, 2015 at 8:08 pm
kg2005
More absent than usual? I feel like I’ve been more present than usual. Sure I leave for periods of time because I’m a busy guy and I’ve got things to do, but when I’m here I’m posting.
July 29, 2015 at 8:09 pm
Inkarnit
Maybe less analysis than usual is a better term then.
July 29, 2015 at 8:12 pm
kg2005
Analysis is all I’ve done today. Granted, I haven’t really come up with anything.
July 29, 2015 at 8:09 pm
daneekasghost
He’s playing the new players who aren’t used to his antics
antics? I’m honestly not sure what you’re referring to.
July 29, 2015 at 8:17 pm
Stacy Snell
Yes…this. right here. This is WOLFY as heck DG. No arguments?
July 29, 2015 at 8:18 pm
Inkarnit
Sometimes this works Stacy…
DG are you a sturgeon?
July 29, 2015 at 8:20 pm
mbnovak
Actually, I think this is him being funny. Or suggesting that he usually plays straightforward. This is a meta-game discussion here, not an in-game discussion.
July 29, 2015 at 8:20 pm
daneekasghost
If you’re asking me to argue against inkarnit’s accusation. There’s nothing to argue against. He says I’m good at “playing people” and that’s true. But it has no bearing on whether I’m a sturgeon or not.
July 29, 2015 at 8:33 pm
Stacy Snell
DEAR GOD I love this game…..
July 29, 2015 at 8:20 pm
nettiebarron
I gave my list. That’s my attempt at “insight.”
July 29, 2015 at 8:27 pm
Stacy Snell
I have questioned nettie since day 1….that is again why I asked for more information. I am absent a lot too due to work but I try to make it substantial when I do show.
Now this was substance:
I’m always suspicious of DG . . . but that’s just because I know he’s good at this game.
Currently, my vote is on KG, because he seems not very helpful, unlike other games where I think he was a more active wolf hunter.
I was with you on Roxanne, but now I’m waffling a little as she seems to now be getting in the swing of the hunting business. She still could be a newb sturgeon though and I think she bears watching.
Stacy has me nervous; I think she could very well be a sturgeon.
Just can’t decide about Novak/Todahshy – it would be awesome if they both are sturgeon, as I sway back and forth depending on which one of them is the most elequent at the moment.
I started out the day thinking that the DG/KG/Novak pack might be a thing.
You are pretty far down on my list of suspects.
Novak says math means Inkarnit is at the bottom of my list, but I don’t like it.
I think that about covers it.
I am almost convinced at this time that kg is not as wolfy as others. The people she is most suspicious of are ones that I am not really feeling….
Man, this game is tough.
July 29, 2015 at 8:09 pm
Inkarnit
unvote kg
Kudos on the luncheon callback btw
July 29, 2015 at 8:10 pm
kg2005
Never forget, you wily bastard.
July 29, 2015 at 8:15 pm
Inkarnit
We have to hook a sturgeon this time. We cannot afford to let it get off the line. But I feel like there’s enough disinformation out there to confuse our new players. Also, we totally neglected to talk about roles for the newbies. Poor Spacegirl probably had no idea what to do as a seer.
July 29, 2015 at 8:18 pm
mbnovak
She did pretty good, considering.
July 29, 2015 at 8:19 pm
kg2005
That was my first thought last night. “Well, that sucks, but it wasn’t exactly a top 5 seer screw up”
July 29, 2015 at 8:19 pm
Inkarnit
She absolutely showed great presence in shooting her peeks off before night.
July 29, 2015 at 8:18 pm
kg2005
We get one more loss, but I feel like if that happens tonight we’re screwed.
July 29, 2015 at 8:18 pm
Inkarnit
Todahshy, you cooled on me today when you started using sense with Novak. If you are both sturgeons I’m going to murder you in your… Anyway, I think it’s time to revisit your rule on DG. Him being alive is, all by itself, suspect. Coupled with his activity, I think he’s a sturgeon. I feel like all he’s done is steer salmon into voting the wrong way while sounding helpful.
July 29, 2015 at 8:21 pm
mbnovak
Toadashy cooled some for me, but not enough. It took him long enough to start being sensible that I still have my doubts.
July 29, 2015 at 8:23 pm
nettiebarron
The problem is he always sounds like that! I have zero read on him.
July 29, 2015 at 8:23 pm
todahshy
I never know with him to be honest. But my rule has been used by the wolves the past few days so I don’t want to just guide my decision solely based on the fact that he is alive.
July 29, 2015 at 8:23 pm
todahshy
Past few games*
July 29, 2015 at 8:24 pm
kg2005
If he is a sturgeon, does anyone see any activity that could possibly link him with anyone else?
July 29, 2015 at 8:25 pm
mbnovak
Yes.
July 29, 2015 at 8:26 pm
kg2005
Okay.
July 29, 2015 at 8:26 pm
daneekasghost
Him being alive is, all by itself, suspect.
*sigh* counterpoint: no it isn’t.
I feel like all he’s done is steer salmon into voting the wrong way while sounding helpful.
like how I convinced everyone to kill Pirate? and spacegirl, even though I voiced suspicions, I don’t think anyone cited my arguments when the bandwagon started?
July 29, 2015 at 8:24 pm
mbnovak
The KG train is weird to me right now. He is getting heat for being quiet, but he really hasn’t been today. I still suspect him, since he’s historically been a very good wolf, but I don’t think we have enough right now.
I still think DG is the wolfiest, followed by todahshy and maybe Annette sliding under the radar.
July 29, 2015 at 8:26 pm
todahshy
I don’t think KG is wolfy for being quiet. This is the most I have ever seen him participate up to this point in any werewolf game.
My issue is his nonvote last night (his still nonvote today) and I have never seen him as defensive as he was earlier today. Usually he is very casual when people accuse him (Note: I’ve never seen wolf KG).
July 29, 2015 at 8:32 pm
Stacy Snell
He has been called out twice today, now three for the no vote…what is that about anyways?! Heh…
July 29, 2015 at 8:34 pm
kg2005
Well, half because I know it annoys DG, and half because it literally does not matter. I’ll have to decide who to vote for pretty soon, but leaving my vote on someone all day just to change it at the end doesn’t do a thing.
July 29, 2015 at 8:36 pm
daneekasghost
If only there was some other option…
July 29, 2015 at 8:34 pm
kg2005
Plus the more you say “Why don’t you vote?” the more I don’t want to. Because I’m a child.
July 29, 2015 at 8:44 pm
Stacy Snell
fair enough…. 😉
July 29, 2015 at 8:27 pm
Inkarnit
Something to consider: kg had 4 votes on him. 5 is majority. Those 4 were me, Annette, todahshy, and Stacy. Why not a sturgeon pile to finish him?
A) he’s a sturgeon
B) he’s already got a sturgeon vote on him and they certainly don’t want two
C) the sturgeons weren’t around to notice
July 29, 2015 at 8:29 pm
mbnovak
It was a very short time that there were 4 votes. Could be no one around.
Wolves still need two kills, and rushing in like that could damn them. No need to pile on and risk it.
July 29, 2015 at 8:32 pm
todahshy
Yeah it’s not like there was a rush to beat the clock or any other option out there for people to choose from.
July 29, 2015 at 8:28 pm
daneekasghost
I still think DG is the wolfiest,
Based on comments that I have responded to.
July 29, 2015 at 8:36 pm
mbnovak
Here’s my problem with your response: it looked at what you had available as a response and could prove instead of going from a natural “I thought Spacegirl because…” Perspective. Despite your protestations today that you were pushing for Spacegirl, you did no such thing. You voted for her, asked her a question, said thanks when she answered and then switched your vote to the other, at the time more popular, confirmed* villager.
It was textbook wolf.
July 29, 2015 at 8:38 pm
daneekasghost
I ALREADY SAID WHY I WAS SUSPICIOUS OF SPACEGIRL.
It was in my very first response when you brought this up.
July 29, 2015 at 8:38 pm
daneekasghost
July 29, 2015 at 8:44 pm
mbnovak
Yes. And then she responded to you:
And you thanked her, and moved on to discussing other targets, including Todahshy, who you put over myself, but ultimately didn’t vote for in the crunch between Todah and Inkarnit. Right after a 4th vote for Todah went down, by the way.
July 29, 2015 at 8:46 pm
daneekasghost
I mean, you’re changing the argument every time I respond to one of your points.
“DG didn’t respond with “I voted spacegirl because…”
“Here’s a link where I did exactly that.”
“Oh but, then you switched off of her!”
I did, because there was no one else on her then and a vote there was no good.
July 29, 2015 at 8:39 pm
todahshy
Which confirmed villager did he switch to?
July 29, 2015 at 8:41 pm
daneekasghost
I went from spacegirl to inkarnit to spacegirl in the last 15 minutes.
July 29, 2015 at 8:41 pm
mbnovak
Inkarnit (hence the asterisk). He went from Spacegirl, (wrongly, we know in hindsight), to Inkarnit (almost certainly wrongly, we know in hindsight), back to Spacegirl when that train got rolling.
It certainly could be that he just jumped back on because he really believed it, but the commentary and the moves are very much what a well-seasoned, subtle wolf would do.
July 29, 2015 at 8:40 pm
daneekasghost
I never said I was pushing spacegirl. I said I was suspicious of her. She was on my list all day.
So I switched from one villager* to another at the last moment. That’s textbook wolf, because???
July 29, 2015 at 8:43 pm
todahshy
At that point Inkarnit is still an unknown. I don’t see how we can hold this against him?
July 29, 2015 at 8:45 pm
mbnovak
If he’s a wolf, it’s not an unknown.
I will point out, this switch of his speaks very badly for you too. As, I think does this defense here.
Remember above when I said I thought we could tie DG to someone else? It’s Todahshy.
July 29, 2015 at 8:47 pm
mbnovak
Villager DG knows why. Wolf DG does too, but requires me to say it more times and won’t acknowledge it even then.
July 29, 2015 at 8:51 pm
daneekasghost
OK, you’re convinced I’m a wolf. noted.
July 29, 2015 at 8:25 pm
todahshy
Anyone wanna claim to be angel? That could have hilarious results!
July 29, 2015 at 8:26 pm
mbnovak
You’re jumping the gun. We’ve still got half hour before it’s too late to switch off of them!
July 29, 2015 at 8:28 pm
kg2005
Our last claim came at 9:00PM on the dot. You can’t make this stuff up.
July 29, 2015 at 8:27 pm
nettiebarron
I have this overwhelming urge to ….
July 29, 2015 at 8:30 pm
Inkarnit
Might want to clarify this before new players jump you for that lol
July 29, 2015 at 8:32 pm
nettiebarron
Good point! Just a joke at my own expense.
July 29, 2015 at 8:31 pm
spookymilk
30 MINUTES
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daneekasghost 1 voting for todahshy
Inkarnit
kg2005 2
mbnovak voting for daneekasghost
nettiebarron voting for kg2005
rockitlikeroxanne 1 voting for sherrymac
sherrymac 1 voting for roxanne
Stacy Snell voting for kg2005
todahshy 1
………………..
July 29, 2015 at 8:34 pm
todahshy
vote Stacy
Here I’ll throw out another option. Ever since Novak mentioned that she sounded like she was a wolf being coached through the game I’ve been noticing similar things. Very mechanical.
July 29, 2015 at 8:39 pm
mbnovak
I see it, but after last night, I just can’t make that kind of snap rush again.
I’m sticking with DG or yourself.
July 29, 2015 at 8:41 pm
Inkarnit
I certainly feel a DG vote. But he’s usually pretty level headed and his all caps above show some frustration. Possibly because he’s salmon and can’t convince you?
July 29, 2015 at 8:47 pm
Stacy Snell
That is a first! Very mechanical? Usually I get accused of being too animated.
But on a serious note…we really need to bag a sturgeon tonight. A Stacy vote will NOT accomplish that. I assure you that I am about as clueless a salmon as you can be right now LOL.
July 29, 2015 at 8:39 pm
kg2005
Alright, Novak has his vote here, I’ll join his bandwagon.
Vote DG
July 29, 2015 at 8:40 pm
Inkarnit
I can get behind a Stacy vote I think. Looking at her game, I definitely can see the instruction. Her voting on both days looks like a newb wolf trying to follow a formula.
vote Stacy
July 29, 2015 at 8:49 pm
Stacy Snell
Wrong move…but I think you know that. Now…who else are you protecting is my question…ugh.
July 29, 2015 at 8:41 pm
rockitlikeroxanne
Where is Sherry Mac? Threw out that vote to summon her, obviously that didn’t work. She’s just going to vote in the morning and then stick with that all day and not come to her defense, what’s that about? Anyways, I was waiting for her to give me a reason not to vote her cause I want sure but her lack of response makes me even more suspicious, so I think I’ll stick with it.
July 29, 2015 at 8:42 pm
rockitlikeroxanne
Crap! Wasn’t* not want
July 29, 2015 at 8:42 pm
todahshy
I am not seeing DG right now. He probably has me bamboozled yet again. But he seems more like quirky villager DG than quirky wolf DG.
July 29, 2015 at 8:47 pm
nettiebarron
“Yet again.” Me, too. I could get behind a Stacy vote.
July 29, 2015 at 8:45 pm
todahshy
Anyone wanna put some pressure on people? It would be a big help.
July 29, 2015 at 8:47 pm
kg2005
How? Start a new vote and get accused of making your vote inconsequential.
July 29, 2015 at 8:51 pm
todahshy
I’m done accusing you. I’m waffling between Stacy and DG. I find it interesting that people want to hop on Stacy. So are they trying to protect him where no one tried to protect you earlier…
July 29, 2015 at 8:53 pm
kg2005
I think it’s interesting that Annette hopped off me and jumped onto Stacy once DG got a few votes.
July 29, 2015 at 8:54 pm
todahshy
Yeah I was hoping the Stacy vote would make something happen.
July 29, 2015 at 8:53 pm
mbnovak
I will agree that Annette’s “me too” and Stacy vote just bumped her up my radar.
July 29, 2015 at 8:49 pm
spookymilk
UGLY-ASS VOTING UPDATE
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daneekasghost 2 voting for todahshy
Inkarnit voting for Stacy
kg2005 2 voting for daneekasghost
mbnovak voting for daneekasghost
nettiebarron voting for kg2005
rockitlikeroxanne 1 voting for sherrymac
sherrymac 1 voting for roxanne
Stacy Snell 2 voting for kg2005
todahshy 1 voting for Stacy
11 minutes.
July 29, 2015 at 8:50 pm
kg2005
I mean… good job, wolves, anyway.
July 29, 2015 at 8:50 pm
Inkarnit
OK I’ll switch with Novak. I’ve had Novak at the bottom of my list all along. If he’s a sturgeon he’s had me hook, line, and sinker from the go. I might as well go all in, especially when his target aligns with my top suspect too. Plus side, if DG is a salmon then Novak is almost certainly a sturgeon.
unvote Stacy
vote DG
July 29, 2015 at 8:52 pm
daneekasghost
No. Novak is almost certainly clean with this tunnel vision.
July 29, 2015 at 8:53 pm
todahshy
Oh now you see it… after making me feel like Mr. Crazy pants for 3 days.
July 29, 2015 at 8:51 pm
nettiebarron
Unvote KG; Vote Stacy
July 29, 2015 at 8:53 pm
Inkarnit
Pay attention to this right here. I suspect this vote was typed before seeing me move off Stacy.
July 29, 2015 at 8:56 pm
nettiebarron
Nope, after. You are not the one I generally listen to!
July 29, 2015 at 8:51 pm
mbnovak
Todahshy and DG are just such a perfect couple right now. No two villagers would ever be that neatly aligned.
DG switched from his inconsequential vote on spacegirl at 8:41 last night right after Todah got up to 4 (at 8:39) to Inkarnit, who was the second best target at that point, and we now have reason to suspect is a villager.
Then the Spacegirl wagon took off, she became the best option for saving Todah, and he jumped on that as it went. He did so quietly, with a tiny little comment about her “cracking” which isn’t anything of substance. It’s just a “here’s some confirmation bias for you villagers voting out another villager” type of comment. I don’t think villager DG makes that comment.
July 29, 2015 at 8:52 pm
mbnovak
And now tonight, Todah won’t quite get there (at least so far) on DG.
July 29, 2015 at 8:51 pm
Stacy Snell
Not to run the risk of being labeled a newb wolf cracking lol….HOWEVER…
I am ALLLLL salmon folks, please do not lose yet another.
July 29, 2015 at 8:54 pm
Stacy Snell
Ok, I am not completely convinced of this but I believe the wolfiest in my opinion is DG. I will get on board.
Unvote KG; Vote DG
July 29, 2015 at 8:55 pm
Inkarnit
Interesting…
July 29, 2015 at 8:55 pm
Inkarnit
unvote DG
July 29, 2015 at 8:55 pm
spookymilk
FIVE MINUTES
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daneekasghost 4 voting for todahshy
Inkarnit voting for daneekasghost
kg2005 voting for daneekasghost
mbnovak voting for daneekasghost
nettiebarron voting for Stacy
rockitlikeroxanne 1 voting for sherrymac
sherrymac 1 voting for roxanne
Stacy Snell 2 voting for daneekasghost
todahshy 1 voting for Stacy
July 29, 2015 at 8:55 pm
daneekasghost
Well, I’m the angel. But thanks village.
July 29, 2015 at 8:56 pm
todahshy
Awesomeness.
July 29, 2015 at 8:56 pm
todahshy
Can we vote Matt now?
July 29, 2015 at 8:57 pm
todahshy
Oh and since I know this is going to be twisted tomorrow. I said awesome not because the angel was outed but just because I was happy I read DG correctly for once.
July 29, 2015 at 8:56 pm
mbnovak
Unvote DG
July 29, 2015 at 8:56 pm
daneekasghost
vote: Stacy I guess. Self-preservation.
July 29, 2015 at 8:58 pm
mbnovak
Can we get there on Annette? Of course, that’s mostly premised on her protecting you…
July 29, 2015 at 8:56 pm
Inkarnit
vote Stacy
July 29, 2015 at 8:56 pm
mbnovak
Vote Annette
Those last minute switches, I guess.
July 29, 2015 at 8:57 pm
Stacy Snell
Unvote DG
July 29, 2015 at 8:57 pm
kg2005
Unvote DG
Sigh.
July 29, 2015 at 8:57 pm
Stacy Snell
You guys can vote me but I am salmon….GO TEAM SALMON….
July 29, 2015 at 8:58 pm
todahshy
Why is Matt staying away from Stacy?
July 29, 2015 at 8:58 pm
Inkarnit
Convinced she’s salmon or sturgeon with her?
July 29, 2015 at 8:59 pm
mbnovak
Not convinced she’s salmon at all, just think there’s a better target.
July 29, 2015 at 8:59 pm
mbnovak
Because I think Annette’s votes were the most wolfy.
July 29, 2015 at 8:58 pm
Stacy Snell
Vote Nettie
July 29, 2015 at 8:59 pm
Stacy Snell
He is either salmon OR wolf trying to be salmon-like lol
July 29, 2015 at 8:59 pm
kg2005
Vote annette
This might tell us something, at least.
July 29, 2015 at 9:00 pm
Stacy Snell
Watch the people voting me….WOLVES! 😉
July 29, 2015 at 9:00 pm
spookymilk
IT IS NIGHT
But timestamping applies
July 29, 2015 at 9:00 pm
Inkarnit
UNVOTE STACY
VOTE ANNETTE
July 29, 2015 at 9:08 pm
spookymilk
daneekasghost voting for Stacy
Inkarnit voting for Stacy
kg2005 voting for nettiebarron
mbnovak voting for nettiebarron
nettiebarron 3 voting for Stacy
rockitlikeroxanne 1 voting for sherrymac
sherrymac 1 voting for roxanne
Stacy Snell 4 voting for nettiebarron
todahshy 1 voting for Stacy
General Salmon was in his chambers, wearing a Carmen Miranda hat, singing salsa hits in the kelp mirror. At this point, I figure he’s just completely incompetent.
A group of Privates were interrogating each other. All day, they went around and around, with some of them having to repeat themselves a lot because their crappy salmon masks were making them hard to understand. Plus, sturgeon don’t even speak salmonese, which should be a dead giveaway right there.
During a lull in the conversation, Private Snell coughed. One salmon looked hard at her.
“This quiet salmon that none of us have worried about at any point MUST be a sturgeon!”
Sigh. They killed her.
The Dread Pirate(day 1, bad advice, salmon)Colin Prime(night 1, belly up, salmon)spacegirlmichy(day 2, those glasses, Private Sight)nibbish(night 2, too interesting, salmon)Stacy Snell(day 3, coughed at the wrong time, salmon)daneekasghost
Inkarnit
kg2005
mbnovak
nettiebarron
rockitlikeroxanne
sherrymac
todahshy
Wolves and angel, you have 90 minutes.
July 29, 2015 at 9:09 pm
spookymilk
Wait, WTF? The Inkarnit vote didn’t show up for me in email yet.
July 29, 2015 at 9:15 pm
spookymilk
I’m figuring this out, guys. Inkarnit’s vote should count, but of course, no matter Annette’s role, Stacy is hereby outed.
Gmail didn’t give me Inkarnit’s vote until late, which happens once in a blue moon, but never at such a critical time.
July 29, 2015 at 9:36 pm
spookymilk
Okay. I have to honor the rules, so nettiebarron is instead lynched.
nettiebarron was Salamangela. I am giving the other two wolves a night kill with no chance of an angel save, so angel, rest yourself.
Sorry this happened. My email failed me, but normally I update the site once more before sending the final result.