The good ship Leche was picking up speed as it shed the weight of wolves. The repair droids had cleaned up the mess of DG’s death and pushed his remains down a waste chute, where he was combined with several things too foul to mention (I will mention there were a lot of banana peels – double the usual amount), frozen solid, and jettisoned into the inky void. The cube of waste briefly caught the weak starlight of a far too distant sun and reflected the smallest flash toward the observation deck of the Leche. Todahshy looked up and the flash of light momentarily blinded him. He stumbled back from the window and tripped over the all-too-conveniently-placed sleeping form of Stacy.
Todahshy went down hard, banging his elbow right on the funny bone. While he was busy flexing his fingers and shaking out the tingling sensation, a wolf snuck up behind him and messily devoured nearly all of him. In the morning the townspeople found only a small sliver of bone, still vibrating on the floor of the observation deck.
Who could have done such a thing? Are they interested only in killing townsfolk in reverse alphabetical order by username currently in use on http://www.spookymilk.wordpress.com? Did anyone else notice that all of a sudden when todahshy tripped there was gravity in this spaceship? What the hell?
All this and more, on … day 2!
violabeenice (wolf, shoved out an airlock, day 1)
todahshy (funny bone attack, night 1)
TDO
spookymilk
Royal Ape
nettiebarron
MelissaDiamondPhillips
kg2005
joepunman
inkarnit
Dread Pirate
Colin Prime
codefox
ash10101
IT IS DAY
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June 21, 2016 at 8:41 am
codefox
Day 2! There is so much to start looking at that it’s not funny. I’m in a 3 hour conference call so I have some time to settle in and get some thoughts out here. (And my day ends with a 4 hour conference call…I’ll be here a lot 😉 )
June 21, 2016 at 8:44 am
spookymilk
here is so much to start looking at that it’s not funny.
There always is. This is another fluff opening statement often made by wolves on subsequent days. I’m going to read through yesterday again, but I still like a vote for you pretty well.
June 21, 2016 at 8:45 am
nettiebarron
Interesting. Why Todashy? Giess I’ll have to go back and read his day. Good job on Viola yesterday. I couldn’t see it. I just thought she was being awkward new.
June 21, 2016 at 8:48 am
spookymilk
She started with “Yikes” and never really let up with the hallmarks of new wolves. I was off of her for a short while but when I re-read her with 15 minutes to go I was pretty sure we’d had it right all along.
Going to re-read her day right now for interactions. The one thing I came away with last night is that her chats with todahshy made it clear he was probably a villager. I thought that was going to be useful. Oh well.
June 21, 2016 at 11:15 am
The Dread Pirate
Nettie, where’s that reread of todahsy?
June 21, 2016 at 8:46 am
todahshy
*****DEAD******
Love the tag on the post btw. 😛
Well if I’m going to die early at least I got to play a day that was basically like 4 days of posts, so have fun the rest of the way everyone!
******DEAD*******
June 21, 2016 at 8:54 am
MelissaDiamondPhillips
Right before she was jailed and mauled by villagers, Viola switched her vote to Joe. This was a weird move and I needed to know why it happened. I looked back, and Annette’s vote was on Joe. Annette seemed wolfy throughout, but it seemed a perfect newb wolf move to switch her vote to another wolf’s random vote.
I’ll be unavailable for awhile. So…
vote Nettie
June 21, 2016 at 9:22 am
nettiebarron
Meh. I think she just changed her vote to Joe because he was the only one getting any action that late in the day. Mostly, she seemed to want to lynch me all day long.
June 21, 2016 at 12:13 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
That doesn’t make you any less wolfy.
June 21, 2016 at 9:00 am
daneekasghost
Off to class. If necessary in the next 4 hours or so, someone make with the voting updates.
June 21, 2016 at 9:05 am
kg2005
Good morning! Looking forward to finally playing this game without that stupid todahshy guy that I hate. So I’m going to claim that I’m going to go read that last day that I mostly missed, but I’ll probably actually just skim some things and pretend that I know what I’m talking about from here on.
June 21, 2016 at 9:10 am
ash10101
oh, hi
June 21, 2016 at 10:37 am
todahshy
****DEAD*****
YOU’RE BREAKING MY HEART!
****DEAD****
June 21, 2016 at 9:16 am
The Dread Pirate
The Viola train was rightly strong, and besides pointing out some of her weird posts yesterday (like why she was Most interested in hearing from me, joepunman, and Ape when none of us had been around much), I thought it might make sense to hunt elsewhere.
What was the deal with the interest in Royal Ape late afternoon? His early posts pointing out wolfy conduct seemed accurate to me. His vote total escalated quickly led initially be inkarnit, and then inkarnit tried to turn it around once others joined him.
June 21, 2016 at 9:24 am
The Dread Pirate
OK, looking or over more closely, ash had a vote on Royal Ape. Once inkarnit and spooky made votes there for him voting without commenting, ash moved her vote onto Viola. Then Colin and todahsy (villager) added votes on him and it all petered out. Not as much to see here as it thought during my read last night.
If anything, Colin would be there person fitting the “third vote theory” and he didn’t offer a lot of explanation, but the whole thing doesn’t look very wolfy in hindsight.
June 21, 2016 at 9:27 am
ash10101
*his
June 21, 2016 at 9:35 am
The Dread Pirate
Whoops, sorry about that
June 21, 2016 at 9:36 am
ash10101
its cool
June 21, 2016 at 9:28 am
spookymilk
VIOLA STUFF
There could be a silencing ability? Wow. I thought, of course, I’ll try another game of werewolf, why not? I think I learned a bit from the first game, but now I’m thinking, “Crap, FOUR wolves?” and now you’re saying that there could be a silencing ability?? YIKES!
Partially posting this because it’s amusing, but also posting because I wonder if she knows something about a silencing ability that wasn’t announced. Everyone checked in yesterday, but some were fairly absent for most of it.
Made a small explanation for why nettie might not be around.
Voted todahshy. When ash asked why, Viola immediately buckled and switched to nettie. Ash looks like a villager here. I would be very surprised if a wolf asked another wolf for an explanation on a vote, particularly when both would be first-time or second-time wolves. If anything, they’d try to avoid each other. I also wonder if the switch to nettie was a token switch to a wolf. I pointed out how wolfy it all looked and she said “If I revenge vote, it will be on you! What the heck!”
nettie’s inability to form an opinion on Viola after the opening hours still sticks out huge to me.
Inkarnit was almost as much all over Viola in the beginning as I was. If he’s playing a wolf game, it’s a deep wolf game where he chose to bus one of his own immediately. That’s a popular move on some forums and possibly the other one he plays on, but I guess I wouldn’t lean that way right now.
I asked her for a read on Melissa: Melissa has been super quiet and in the last game she was as well, in which she was a wolf. I’d like to hear what she thinks about Spooky and Inkarnit. I haven’t played a game with either of you and perhaps Melissa would be able to tell me something??
So she flipped it into asking for a read on me and another on Inkarnit. I think it was a mistake for her to try to go after the people most after her. Not sure what this means for Melissa; I guess I don’t see first-time wolves often painting other wolves as wolves. It is weird, though, that she comes away with the idea that Melissa is a wolf and still asks for her reads on two people, at least one of whom she knows is village.
Her read on Annette is I didn’t get to play with Annette last game, so I have no way of knowing if this is her play as a villager or a wolf. I’d like to think that she is more active than this but perhaps her headache is good enough reason. Totally neutral and avoidant.
Asks me for a read on TDO, but doesn’t elaborate. Not sure if it gives me anything on TDO, but maybe she wanted to pit a villager against a villager. I’ve been reading TDO as village anyway.
I think that I’m most interested in what joepunman, royal ape or DP have to say. I would be hugely amused if these were the other wolves. It was a really, really bizarre statement and Will immediately responded that it was a weird trio to be relying on. I don’t know how much we can bet on this, but I think it’s worth remembering as we go forward.
can I ask, who is KG2005? have I missed a post somewhere? I missed him, so I guess my trio became a quartet? I think this probably makes Kage a villager. I doubt she’d think to pretend she didn’t know of someone if she’d talked to him in wolf chat the night before. Not an exoneration, maybe, but I’d lean clean on KG.
Small exchange with RoyalApe where he wants to know why she wants to know what he has to say, kind of like Will’s comment.
TDO “could see a vote [on Viola], but I’m not quite ready.” That’s actually kind of a wolfy thing to do – say you can back a vote but not make it – but TDO does this a lot, too.
Not related to Viola, but RoyalApe’s housekeeping votes for TDO and for me were still never explained and his inclusion on Viola’s list of most interesting people…it’s a whole lot of interesting, when mashed together.
Viola shows up as #1 on codefox’s list with the caveat “Of course, this is also exactly how she played last game too.” Possibly an out to not vote for her later, but I don’t know.
Colin Prime’s read on Viola: I can’t argue against anything being said about her. I have a feeling this is where the vote will go today, and I’m fine with that, though I didn’t read her posts the same way. I read more of a villager newb being a villager newb and tossing out some light day one banter. I also can see that she may be a newb wolf who is just digging her own grave as fast as she can and doesn’t know how to climb back out. If she gets voted and ends up being a wolf, it’ll be interesting to look at who is working hardest to lynch her and who is working to distance themselves. Seems fairly villagery, but still with an “out.” I kept my eye on CP a lot yesterday but I don’t think he’s one of my top picks to lynch. The one thing that stuck out is that he joke-voted for me, then when someone else voted for me and asked why I didn’t have heat he agreed. Then later, he unvoted me and mentioned it was just a joke again.
Viola: I’m going to be leaving for the train. Depending on traffic, I should be home by the last hour of the game. I’m just going to leave my vote on nettiebarron, I honestly am not sure, that it’s her or anyone for that matter. This vote is just because now I’m the one with the migraine. Interesting that she’s willing to just leave it on Annette, which doesn’t seem to paint Annette as wolfy as some of the other stuff.
todahshy:
Spooky – I have my reasons.
Colin – I also have my reasons.
I desperately wanted to ask todah about this today. I know I’m village, so I wanted him to explain what he was thinking here. We’re fairly far down his list but still “questionable.” Todah’s top four wolves were Viola, ash, codefox and RoyalApe.
He also says of Melissa: Though I’m not seeing her as wolfy as some of the rest of you are. I know I’ve dropped words like “seeing” into list posts before as the seer, just so people would find it later. Could be a seer who peeked Melissa on Night Zero and she came up village.
Viola’s big post near end of day:
First: The people that I see playing the same way TDO, Codefox, Todahshy, and Melissa. In the last game, TDO, Codefox and Todahshy were villagers. Melissa was a wolf… does that mean anything? I don’t know.
Second: The people that I see playing differently are Ash and Colin Prime. Both were super quiet last game and both had reasons, granted, but Ash’s play this time seems more aggressive, if that’s the right word. Colin’s game is way less aggressive this time (thank you because you scared me last time) which leads me to believe that he is not a wolf.
Third: The rest of the people that I’ve not played a game with, so I’m going off what others have said and don’t feel comfortable voting for any of them. I’m counting Nettie in this group because I really had no chance to play with her as she was gone on the first night. I’m also counting DP and Joe in this category but would be willing to vote for either if the votes go that way.
If I make it to day 2, I’d pursue those people for more information.
Right now, I feel most confident with Melissa, so….
She’s abandoned the idea of me from before. She puts todah, the only confirmed villager, in the villager pile, but she also says Melissa is playing like last time when she was a wolf. Tries to paint Ash subtly as a wolf. Ash had some heat at this time and I think this almost certainly makes Ash a villager. She reiterates that she can’t comment on nettie, a person she knows well in real life, because she hasn’t played with her before. I really dislike how these two not only wouldn’t comment on each other but kept coming up with reasons not to. Makes a point to call out DP and Joe, for some reason, while ignoring a few others.
Unvotes nettie, votes Melissa. Points out Ash is on her radar too. I think she’s desperate to get one more day at the hands of a villager. I think this and the comment about how Melissa is her #1 earlier probably make Melissa a villager.
I point out after my re-read that I’m back on Viola, and if she’s not the wolf then we’ll just be talking about her forever. RoyalApe says this is a bad reason for a vote, which I totally disagree with because it’s day one and there are a lot of other people that are good for seer peeks. RoyalApe also thinks the train on Viola is too easy, which I was worried about, but he brought it up and it’s just more weirdness on top of some other stuff.
Viola unvotes Melissa and votes Joe late. This is all kinds of goofy. Joe has no heat here and this could be the old wolf standby, “Voting for a wolf out of nowhere so he looks villagery later.” I hate this vote. She’s barely ever mentioned Joe, and this is her LAST post.
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I come away feeling votes for Joe, RoyalApe and perhaps nettiebarron or codefox. This took way longer than I thought. I have 15 minutes to shower AND get to work.
June 21, 2016 at 9:30 am
ash10101
As far as I know, on the other forum ink and i are on, imediately throwing another wolf under the bus is NOT advised
June 21, 2016 at 9:40 am
kg2005
Yeah, why would a wolf do that? That would be something a wolf should never do.
Oh, right.
June 21, 2016 at 10:58 am
Inkarnit
But this is exactly why that kind of action could work. With a wolf heavy team, knowing one is a newbie, I woodland count out the possibility of a planned bussing of the newbie.
June 21, 2016 at 1:42 pm
ash10101
OH you mean wouldnt? I think?
June 21, 2016 at 1:54 pm
Inkarnit
No. I totes meant woodland. Duh.
June 21, 2016 at 9:45 am
Royal Ape
{quote}
Not related to Viola, but RoyalApe’s housekeeping votes for TDO and for me were still never explained and his inclusion on Viola’s list of most interesting people…it’s a whole lot of interesting, when mashed together.{/quote}
How did I not explain them? I tried voting through replies to other posts and Ink clarified to me that it doesn’t work that way here. Later also found out that I can’t move my vote without unvoting first.
I believe in accurate tallies – regardless of alignment – that was simply me putting my votes accurately on record.
If you want to ask WHY I voted TDO and you – my TDO vote was a meta vote – basically random aside from whatever funny thing I’m feeling at the moment.
I voted you because I hear you can be sneaky and INK suggested that if we want to learn anything from voting you – we needed more votes – thus I voted you and stated “SCIENCE”. I understand SCIENCE may not mean anything to people that don’t know me – but that is where questions come into play.
June 21, 2016 at 10:01 am
Inkarnit
The issue with the housekeeping votes was that you showed up to fix them but then didn’t comment on anything else going on at that time.
June 21, 2016 at 11:42 am
Royal Ape
I’m pretty sure that I commented on a couple of other small things. But that’s fair.
June 21, 2016 at 10:19 am
spookymilk
See, this is an awesome response. What was up yesterday? If you’re a villager, this is the version of you that we’ll need.
June 21, 2016 at 11:43 am
Royal Ape
You’ll get it in bursts. Besides – I don’t know many of you so I’m more in sentry mode :p
June 21, 2016 at 10:59 am
Inkarnit
I can confirm that SCIENCE is a frequent strategy of his.
June 21, 2016 at 9:50 am
Royal Ape
{quote}I point out after my re-read that I’m back on Viola, and if she’s not the wolf then we’ll just be talking about her forever. RoyalApe says this is a bad reason for a vote, which I totally disagree with because it’s day one and there are a lot of other people that are good for seer peeks. RoyalApe also thinks the train on Viola is too easy, which I was worried about, but he brought it up and it’s just more weirdness on top of some other stuff.{/quote}
It is a bad reason for a vote. But it would have been a worse reason if viola flipped good. Because it read like a weak reason to hop onto a mislynch.
The reason it was a bad reason to vote is that we are trying to find evils – not eliminate potential blind spots. As was pointed out yesterday (I believe by you) – 4 evils in 14 means we only get two mislynches to play with – I’m not a fan of using one day one because they are a potential blind spot – but my preference on seer views is to look for clears and not hits so that may play into it as well.
Ultimately, I think you are more likely good because of the reason you used for your vote and the fact that Viola flipped good. That isn’t what a normal bussing vote looks like.
June 21, 2016 at 10:22 am
spookymilk
Viola flipped evil, not good. Not sure if you misread or just misspoke. Not concerned, mind you. Curious.
We’ve lost games here because we wouldn’t deal with a person we talked about all game long. You can say that we can just seer-peek the person, but we’ve had a number of seers here who end up peeking the person who tells them to peek at (x) instead of (x) himself, so in the absence of knowing the seer’s identity, I find it hard to trust.
June 21, 2016 at 11:45 am
Royal Ape
That’s fine – especially since there is no guarantees of even having a seer in this game.
I generally like to hunt an evil, sit them aside and hunt for another. Just to avoid the lopsided mislynch.
June 21, 2016 at 9:56 am
Royal Ape
{quote}RoyalApe – Stories are apparently sung about the Ape’s game! I have some major concerns though after reading through his posts. He was very against the Viola vote and commented he’d rather the seer peak her instead. When Colin & todahshy voted on him later, he called those votes wolfy, especially todahshy. Since Todah was definitely a villager, that raises some red flags to me. Especially day one…I can’t see most hunting posts being especially wolfy. He’s definitely risen up my list. Despite some long stretches of quiet, he was actually pretty active all night but any time someone brought him up, he said it looked like a wolfy move. If all hunting was wolfy, then we’d never get anywhere.{/q}
All hunting isn’t wolfy – I actually generally like reading good cases about me. Helps me find goods better. Like INK – his push on me and then retraction felt natural.
I actually had Viola as a potential wolf but the votes just seemed too easy and easy d1 votes are often mislynches. Her flipping evil certainly puts some spotlight on me yesterday – but I’d love to hear you theorize why I would try to defend a sinking ship that hard.
June 21, 2016 at 10:51 am
codefox
No, I think you make a good point about likely not trying to defend a sinking ship.
I think my main concern was that I did feel like anyone who did bring you up did mostly seem to illicit the same response of ‘wolfy’. I realize that, from what you said earlier in the day, that you don’t mean you think that person is a wolf when you say that but while it was a step down from revenge voting, I really just never like to see anyone accuse someone of being suspicious only based on their vote of them.
June 21, 2016 at 10:57 am
Inkarnit
Thanks for this. I did a full reread of her last night too and intended to do a similar word vomit. I’m glad I don’t need to now. On the plus side, I can confirm this is factually accurate information with no obfuscation or misdirection that I’m able to recognize immediately.
June 21, 2016 at 9:38 am
Royal Ape
the wolf flip on d1 alleviated a big portion of my read on codefox. so double yay for that.
June 21, 2016 at 9:41 am
codefox
Wow, so much action yesterday. There was just so much to dig through on the day’s first post to try and get something meaningful out here. I just pulled the roster off the first post and I’m going to go down the list of players and give my thoughts on each.
ash10101 – I mentioned yesterday but I really have a hard time reading Ash. I thought early in last game that they were a wolf and was completely wrong there. Yesterday I wouldn’t call the majority of Ash’s posts very helpful but I thought basically like any other game I’ve seen them in. Not really pinging much for me right now.
Colin Prime – Colin’s game this time is WAY different than what I’ve seen from his wolf game. In fact it’s so different he could be a different person. 8) But I feel pretty good that Colin is a villager. He was contributing to hunting and gave some good reads in general.
Dread Pirate – I think he had a really strange game for him yesterday. It sounds like he could have been busy all day but even when he was around, his posts were just not very insightful. He voted ash at the end of the day which isn’t a bad vote and if he was busy, I could understand him not being able to get completely caught up when he got back. Still, I thought he was mostly unhelpful when he was around and he just wasn’t around much. He’s on my radar.
inkarnit – Inkarnit had a really active game. I’m not even going to try and really re-read most of his day because he was mentioned or posted almost 200 times. He was active and hunting and I thought gave thorough and thoughful reads. He’s definitely leaning villager to me. I get the impression he’s a pretty solid player so I’m not ready to move him to villager yet but he’s leaning that way.
joepunman – This is another person who I think had an interesting game yesterday. He was fairly quiet most of the day and popped in late. He did give a fairly good read on people towards the end of the night. He went with the popular vote on Viola at the end of the night which doesn’t mean that much to me. Could go either way for this one.
kg2005 – Didn’t vote on anyone. Didn’t participate in any meaningful way. After last game, this puts KG strongly on my radar. Why would he have no votes? He didn’t really contribute much to hunting in the few posts that he did have. I barely know anything about his game. It was an extremely active day so it almost feels like hiding by not posting much.
MelissaDiamondPhillips – Melissa had a pretty good game yesterday. There was the one weird moment of making an off-hand comment that maybe outed a possible seer. My only read on that is that it made MDP look more like a villager to me. Up until then her game was a little wolfy to me since it seemed similar to last game. But that comment only made sense to me in context of a villager making a mistake by saying that. She did pull a similar move at the end of the night as last game but she did vote and then made some solid observations through the end of the night. She’s leaning villager to me but jury is out.
nettiebarron – This is an interesting one. Nettie made some comments that were as strange as Viola’s early on in the day and seemed very hesitant to commit to Viola as a wolf. I felt like she played up being sick pretty strong (I do hope you feel better 8) ) which did seem to not get any mention after her mid-day nap. She was very wishy-washy on Viola all day though and otherwise very focused on Joe. She’s definitely still on my list.
RoyalApe – Stories are apparently sung about the Ape’s game! I have some major concerns though after reading through his posts. He was very against the Viola vote and commented he’d rather the seer peak her instead. When Colin & todahshy voted on him later, he called those votes wolfy, especially todahshy. Since Todah was definitely a villager, that raises some red flags to me. Especially day one…I can’t see most hunting posts being especially wolfy. He’s definitely risen up my list. Despite some long stretches of quiet, he was actually pretty active all night but any time someone brought him up, he said it looked like a wolfy move. If all hunting was wolfy, then we’d never get anywhere.
spookymilk – I was quite excited to see spooky would be in this game since I heard he was really good and I don’t think I’ve been disappointed. He’s been very active in wolf hunting, not laser focused on any one person, and keeping his options open while swapping between players. I don’t think he’s definitely a villager because he was good at throwing his vote from person to person and the reasons all felt pretty solid so I think he can blend in really well with the village if he’s a wolf.
TDO – TDO is always a villager which is an unbreakable rule of the universe. I think his game was pretty strongly leaning towards a villager. I didn’t see anything at least to make me think he was a wolf.
Whew! Ok…now for a list off of this (not in any order within my categories):
Wolfy:
Royal Ape
Dread Pirate
Nettie
Neutral/Could be convinced:
joepunman
kg2005
spookymilk
Probably Villager:
ash10101
inkarnit
MelissaDiamondPhillips
TDO
Colin Prime
June 21, 2016 at 9:53 am
kg2005
I disagree on Will. Wolf Will is an amazing Wolf hunter and always on his game. If he’s acting weird it’s probably because he’s a villager and feels a little lost as to what’s going on.
June 21, 2016 at 9:59 am
codefox
Honestly, I wavered between wolfy & neutral. From playing with Will in the past, I agree with you that he is great at hunting. But given that yesterday was quite busy, if he was a wolf and saw how much was going on, it might have been hard to do much more than he did if he didn’t have time to catch up. That goes for villager or wolf versions of him.
But if he’s a wolf and doesn’t want to stick out on a day like yesterday, why not sit tight? I’ll be curious to see what happens today to shed some more light on him.
June 21, 2016 at 10:03 am
joepunman
DP always looks wolfy to me. I’m trying to keep an open mind this time and not get too tunnel visioned.
June 21, 2016 at 10:00 am
joepunman
I didn’t really go with the popular vote on Viola. At the time I voted, no one was really getting a majority of votes. After my read, I decided to go with her mostly due to Spooky’s insights and her reactions throughout the day. I feel like if anything I led the charge at the end.
June 21, 2016 at 10:02 am
codefox
I’m going to go back and re-read that just to see. If I read that wrong, I apologize. I don’t know that I’d say you ‘led the charge’ since that charge started in the morning but let me recheck the voting record!
June 21, 2016 at 10:08 am
codefox
You’re right…you were one of the first to start the vote back on her. My vote followed and pushed her into the lead over MelissaD and then the avalanche of votes followed.
June 21, 2016 at 10:26 am
spookymilk
CP might be getting tougher to read. Normally he plays a rage-game as a villager and is calmer as a wolf. Last time he played a rage-game as a wolf.
June 21, 2016 at 10:30 am
codefox
Well, I’m not just basing that on the calmness of his game, though what you mention is actually pretty funny. I think he was contributing to the hunting effort pretty solidly yesterday which makes me feel pretty good about him.
June 21, 2016 at 10:34 am
spookymilk
I still agree at present that he’s a villager…mostly just decrying that a guy who’s typically one of my easier reads is evolving…
June 21, 2016 at 12:12 pm
Colin Prime
oh, you.
June 21, 2016 at 9:41 am
TDO
I have a hunch nettie is a villager….or it could be heartburn from the tamales last night.
June 21, 2016 at 9:45 am
ash10101
I am a little unsettled on nettie. she seemed a little weird in her interactions with viola yesterday, but I that could just be viola scrambling. But, it could also be viola messing up as a new wolf and revealing another wolf
June 21, 2016 at 9:59 am
violabeenice
*****DEAD******
Just a quick thank you to everyone for letting me play my second game of werewolf. It was fun????… Yes, seriously though, it was fun. Go TEAM WOLF!! As a bit of trivia, my death coincided with the first summer soltice full moon since 1967… that’s just AWESOME!
*****DEAD******
June 21, 2016 at 10:00 am
nettiebarron
I was not tracking well at all early yesterday. I was indeed wishy washy about Viola. I felt protective of her. So that was my bad. She certainly didn’t feel anything reciprocal, as her vote stayed on me pretty much all day.
I still feel like Joe was very suspicious yesterday.
Melissa and Dread Pirate feel villagery.
I could be convinced that Royal Ape and/or Ash is a wolf.
Spooky and both Colins feel like active wolf hunters.
June 21, 2016 at 10:02 am
joepunman
What makes you think I’m suspicious? Did I do something in particular to make you feel this way?
June 21, 2016 at 10:05 am
nettiebarron
Yes. You seemed to be hanging back. Joking but not hunting.
June 21, 2016 at 11:14 am
joepunman
I tend to not hunt as vigorously on the first day since there’s so little information to go on. and as for joking… I am the punman.
June 21, 2016 at 11:28 am
Inkarnit
This day 1 had all but “so little information” so this excuse doesn’t resonate with me.
June 21, 2016 at 12:14 pm
Colin Prime
agreed with colin on this one. I like to come into day one with a lighter attitude and take it easy, but yesterday there was so much going on that those that stood back are more likely to be wolves than villagers that are “standing back.”
June 21, 2016 at 3:50 pm
Royal Ape
I like the takes from Ink and Colin here. Let me try to read back through nettie’s d1.
June 21, 2016 at 3:53 pm
Royal Ape
make that joe’s d1. I just saw nettie was active on d1 so I had to come back to verify
June 21, 2016 at 10:04 am
nettiebarron
TDO = villager probably.
KG – need more info.
Codefox = suspicious. Smells wolfy.
June 21, 2016 at 10:17 am
codefox
What makes you think so? I assume the reason is different than the one you gave joe.
June 21, 2016 at 10:59 am
nettiebarron
Your game feels different than the last time. I still need to spend some time rereading yesterday, but that’s what stands out.
June 21, 2016 at 10:17 am
TDO
What about codefox smells wolfy? Help learned me 😛
June 21, 2016 at 10:27 am
spookymilk
For me it’s an overall lack of commitment to nearly all of his reads.
June 21, 2016 at 10:35 am
codefox
Interesting. I’m not sure I really agree. With how active yesterday was we do have a lot more to go off on day 2 than I’m used to, which is great.
We’re a couple hours in and Will is once again pretty quiet which is just not the game I’m used to with him. I do want to know what sort of game he’s playing.
June 21, 2016 at 10:43 am
codefox
vote Dread Pirate
Well, someone has to open up the voting. Will was on my radar yesterday because he was strangely quiet & unhelpful for the most part. Today he’s contributed a little bit but I know he’s capable of much more.
I’d like to see some more contribution from him today.
June 21, 2016 at 10:58 am
spookymilk
Though you continue to pique my interest, I like this vote. KG said Will might just be out of it and confused, but I’ve never seen him let that stop him from trying to talk through it.
June 21, 2016 at 11:48 am
The Dread Pirate
I’m busy, but never confused!
June 21, 2016 at 11:01 am
nettiebarron
Will is definitely weird this time. But that leads me more away from wolf than towards it.
June 21, 2016 at 12:25 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
*cough* I opened up voting, thank you very much. My vote is still firmly on Nettie. I 100% believe that she was a wolf mentor to Viola, and that Viola did what Nettie was doing because she otherwise had no idea what was going on. They’re friends in real life, so of anybody Viola could trust in-game, it’s Nettie. That’s how I see her last-minute flip to Joe.
June 21, 2016 at 12:29 pm
codefox
Ooops! Not that it matters too much. I think I missed that when I was writing my long post.
This is how I feel about nettie too. Joe’s game was very quiet yesterday. I think I want to put some more pressure on her today to explain some of the decisions she made.
So far, her reasoning for being luke-warm on viola hasn’t rung very true to me.
June 21, 2016 at 1:50 pm
nettiebarron
Yet it is. Maybe you’re tone deaf where I am concerned.
June 21, 2016 at 10:49 am
Inkarnit
I’ve got an appointment in a few minutes but want to hear more from Royal. I’ve read everything this morning and like your contributions but still want some explanation for yesterday’s behavior. Not the absence itself, but the fact that your appearances largely ignored current goings on.
June 21, 2016 at 11:47 am
Royal Ape
The layout of the game thread is confusing to me – I can’t quite follow what the current conversations are easily – and my attempt to subscribe to email yesterday failed.
You’ll get what you get 🙂
June 21, 2016 at 11:00 am
The Dread Pirate
Today’s going to be another tough day for me. I have court this afternoon and ise my wife’s birthday, so not sure how much wrrewolfing she’ll let me do. Royal Ape’s comments above are solid, but also a little terrifying because he looks like another player like spooky and greekhouse who know how present themselves as super villagery wolves if necessary.
June 21, 2016 at 11:33 am
joepunman
So, this caught my attention. Spooky, you sort of led the charge early against Viola, then backed off in this comment, and only later came around when others seemed to be going toward her. What about her game yesterday made you think she was non-wolfy? And what changed your mind back again when you later voted for her?
Oh, and I read through yesterday’s stuff… just to clarify, I was not at all trying to imply you would abuse a child. I am the punman after all.
June 21, 2016 at 11:41 am
Inkarnit
That’s actually my only concerns with spooky as well. As a wolf, it’s easy to go after another wolf hard early then back off of it later. However, it’s a risky move because if that wolf does die, things point rather strongly back at you as someone who tried to go another direction. I still have spooky in my villager camp, but there’s still the conspiracy theory there and this actually supports the conspiracy.
June 21, 2016 at 11:50 am
spookymilk
First and foremost, I wouldn’t lead a charge against a wolf as a wolf to start day one. With so many targets there’s no need. I backed off because I was starting to think she was clueless village. I re-read her late in the day and realized I was right the first time.
I explained this an hour or so ago, but I get that if you’re going to have a snowballs chance of framing me, you have to ignore that.
June 21, 2016 at 11:53 am
Inkarnit
Yeah I think the chances are so slim that I’m not willing to spend time looking there yet. Maybe not ever.
June 21, 2016 at 11:56 am
The Dread Pirate
Except you’ve mentioned it several times beginning by about noon yesterday, so even though you’re never going to look at it, you’ve done a decent job planting seeds* so others can.
*yes, I realize joepunman made the first post here, but you’re the one ready to expound on it
June 21, 2016 at 11:54 am
The Dread Pirate
As someone who didn’t have a lot of time to commit yesterday, she read just as clueless as last game when she was a newb villager.
June 21, 2016 at 12:10 pm
codefox
This is something I don’t disagree with. I had viola on literally every single list last game and she was a villager.
However, her game seemed forced at times yesterday.
June 21, 2016 at 1:06 pm
joepunman
I’m not necessarily trying to frame you as a wolf here, I just saw something that caught my attention and was looking for an explanation. Believe it or not, I think you are the most villager person here, considering your insights led to Viola being brought down, and you’re right, why would a wolf bring down another wolf so early.
You might have explained it an hour ago, but I was looking at yesterday’s posts while you posted it, so chance are I didn’t see your explanation.
June 21, 2016 at 11:45 am
The Dread Pirate
Todahsy day one:
Joke vote for inkarnit
Agrees work spooky that Viola’s first two posts felt staged, switches vote to her
Says Nettie’s entrance is wolfy
Points out possible Viola-Nettie wolf pairing based on Viola’s comments
Votes inkarnit for being a follower
Defends Melissa from inkarnit vote, because inkarnit and I thought Melissa was trying to shade Nettie. Then starts to backtrack.
Says new prefers Nettie vote over Viola
Votes codefox for being wishy-washy and saying a lot while saying nothing
Bothered by an ash/spooky interaction. Thinks spooky might by trying to dirty up future targets.
Votes Royal Ape for being actively unhelpful
Lists Viola, ash, codefox, and Royal Ape as top four targets. Labels inkarnit and Nettie as cleanest.
Moves back to Viola at end of day.
June 21, 2016 at 11:48 am
The Dread Pirate
Tldr:
All over Viola consistently from an hour in.
Never explained why he lost interest in Nettie.
Also suspected ash, codefox, and Royal Ape.
June 21, 2016 at 11:49 am
codefox
I think joe’s posts today are interesting. I like that he’s at least showing an interest in hunting but he made a comment way up there that he was quiet due to it being day 1. There was more happening yesterday than in 3+ days of posts in some of the games I’ve been in. That’s a poor reason to stand out of the fray.
I’m also interested to know why he would target spooky here. Spooky was one of the first (if not the first) people to go after Viola. While I agree that I’m a little wary of the fact that he didn’t seem sold on her by the end of the day, I find it hard to believe he would have thrown her immediately under the bus. The early conversation around Viola yesterday is what made her eventual lynching possible. If that had gotten less attention early, I don’t know people would have rushed so quickly to vote her at the end of the day.
June 21, 2016 at 11:53 am
spookymilk
I think Joe is a wolf, but for whatever it’s worth, he has always claimed there’s nothing to go on during day one, despite a preponderance of evidence to the contrary.
June 21, 2016 at 11:53 am
Royal Ape
I think spooky is good – both for being the first to vote viola and the way he phrased things to me. It is a strong read.
June 21, 2016 at 12:29 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
Joe is a hard read for me. He’s always vaguely absent and always making random jokes, and I feel like in every single game, people declare him wolfy. Partially because it’s easy (he’s not around) and partially because he just always seems wolfy.
June 21, 2016 at 11:51 am
Royal Ape
Yesterday’s viola votes:
Spooky
Todah
Joe
Codefox
Ink
Colin
Melissa
A couple of those came off and then went back on. Colin’s stands out as normal late bus timing and combine that with what felt like a weak vote on me yesterday as a mid-day counter train to viola:
vote Colin Prime
June 21, 2016 at 11:56 am
Inkarnit
Going into another appointment now, but wanted to throw this idea out there. If we have a Seer, they probably have 2 views at this point, right? A n0 and n1? Should the Seer out today with views? Opinions only at this point, no claims.
June 21, 2016 at 12:01 pm
codefox
I think that depends on if the seer has spotted a wolf or not. If its 1 & 1, then maybe. If 2 wolves…then definitely. If it’s 2 villagers then only if it’s villagers that noone is sure about yet. If 2 villagers that everyone thinks are villagers anyway, then almost definitely not yet.
June 21, 2016 at 1:23 pm
Royal Ape
I think clears are great and decent chance of a martyr/bg/angel as well. Up to seer ultimately. But continued discussion also makes it harder for seer to hide.
June 21, 2016 at 12:02 pm
nettiebarron
Hmm. It might be helpful. Especially, if we also have an angel who could then protect them. Unfortunately, we don’t know any of those things. *shakes fist at dg*
June 21, 2016 at 11:58 am
The Dread Pirate
Meeting, then court, then possible birthday shenanigans.
Vote Colin Prime. He did hop on the Royal Ape bandwagon at a wolfy time in addition to the Viola kill.
June 21, 2016 at 12:04 pm
codefox
Have a big slice of cake for me 8)
Also, I’m not feeling the Colin vote right now. Maybe I’m reading too much into the way he’s playing (well, I guess that’s the point) but I felt like he was actually helpful in hunting in general yesterday.
His voting on Viola was shaky but I think nettie was much shakier on that front.
June 21, 2016 at 12:32 pm
Colin Prime
I’d like to ask for you and Ape to expound… I felt like I was one of the first to mention ape for his stand-offishness… and I mentioned a few times before nightfall that I was into the viola vote. neither of these were bandwagon votes nor were the timings at all wolfy… This looks more like you’re piggybacking on Royal Ape’s vote and sentiments rather than positing your own.
June 21, 2016 at 1:22 pm
Royal Ape
You were one of the first to push me for perceived stand-offishness. But that doesn’t earn you points – at most it is net neutral.
You could be right on the Pirate’s vote on you though. Worth investigating.
June 21, 2016 at 12:35 pm
codefox
unvote DP
vote Nettie
I want to put some more pressure here. I think her voting record yesterday is a bit strange from never going in on a vote for Viola to her focusing so heavy on Joe. Joe was quiet and on the radar but I don’t think at that point of the day that I really understand why she focused so hard on him.
June 21, 2016 at 12:44 pm
spookymilk
On the seer question: bear in mind that DG isn’t revealing roles on night kills and therefore todahshy could have been the seer, leaving a wolf open to make a seer claim with no opposition.
June 21, 2016 at 12:48 pm
Inkarnit
That’s also why I am leaning towards a claim now. I think it’s possible but unlikely that they guessed the Seer correctly on n1. But that chance increases exponentially each night. If we get a Seer claim now, even if it’s false, it will tell us some things. The wolves don’t know if they got the Seer either, so they won’t know whether to make a false claim or not either. It’s a huge risk for them to false claim Seer only to have the real Seer counter.
June 21, 2016 at 12:51 pm
TDO
Or this could be like the game(s) that had multiple seers and only 1 real one…So much is unknown. Hell, there could no seer. Or we could all unknowingly be wolves.
June 21, 2016 at 1:03 pm
Inkarnit
You’re absolutely right. Which is why I think I advocate for more information sooner than later. I think I want a Seer claim. If the Seer has at least 1 wolf pegged I definitely want a claim. If they have 2 living villagers, I am good with a claim there too.
June 21, 2016 at 1:00 pm
nettiebarron
But the wolves wouldn’t know if there was a seer or not, right? It would be a risk.
June 21, 2016 at 1:06 pm
Inkarnit
Why would the wolves know that?
June 21, 2016 at 1:06 pm
Inkarnit
Sorry thought you said “would” not “wouldn’t.” Yeah, the wolves won’t know if there’s a Seer or not – alive, dead, not in the game.
June 21, 2016 at 12:50 pm
Colin Prime
coming into day two with a ton of info is good, but also presents difficulty. so much info means so many places for wolves to hide.
on my mind at the moment are:
Spooky: you’re doing an awesome job talking about how much you’re hunting, but you’re pretty focused on just a few targets. you absolutely pounced on viola yesterday which I now read as a wolf having to throw another wolf under the bus to gain villager cred when said wolf makes a glaring mistake. Your earlier claim that this was something you wouldn’t do because of “so many other targets” is just plain balderdash. you absolutely would make that play, without hesitation. last night late you claimed I was one of the most wolfy-looking players, but this morning you’re suddenly backing off of me while still planting seeds to why I *could* be playing my wolf game. also your comment on my game “evolving” feels staged, given you know how fragile my ego is. spooky’s villager game is different than this. villager spooky goes after everyone in the game to stir things up and to root out the wolves. what I’m reading is a focused game that brings a lot of fluff.
you’re my main today. I know how good you are at defending yourself and picking analysis apart so I can see revealing my hand this early blowing up in my face, but I’m ready to take you on today.
Joe: the day 1 excuse just falls flat with me. I’ve played with you as a wolf a few times, and this feels like your wolf game.
melissa: yeah. I read her as wolf all day yesterday, and I still feel the same.
yesterday I was worried about codefox – not at all today. some are saying that his posts lack substance, but I disagree. I see someone who is putting less analytical thought and more reactionary thought, but that’s just a villagery as being carefully analytical, if not more so.
I can’t see Ape’s comments today coming from a wolf, though I’ve played similar games in the past by being as analytical as possible to seem like I’m hunting. I’m not looking here today.
inkarnit is playing his villager game, imo.
I have a hard time seeing nettie and viola as wolves. wolf viola makes a debacle of day one and ties herself to another wolf like that? I kind of doubt it. back burner for nettie.
DP your wolf game is usually more careful and analytical while your villager game is usually loose, like this one.
ash is still a likely candidate, though I don’t have a good read here yet.
KG looks extraordinarily wolfy with his cavalier attitude. I doubt we’ll hear much from him, which is lousy given how helpful he can be if he’s a villager. I remember a game with him where I defended his absence ad nauseum, thinking no way would be be so brash as a wolf only to find that when he literally told everyone in the game he was a wolf that he actually was.
TDO. i don’t know man. you’re kind of quiet this game so I’m not sure what to say here.
for now:
vote spooky
June 21, 2016 at 12:57 pm
kg2005
YOU look extremely wolfy given my cavalier attitude.
So… there. Yeah.
June 21, 2016 at 12:58 pm
Inkarnit
Seriously KG, we need you to come play.
June 21, 2016 at 1:00 pm
kg2005
I know, I know. Work has been unexpectedly busy. I’ll probably give you more this afternoon. For now I can’t wait to see how this spooky-colin thing plays out.
June 21, 2016 at 1:02 pm
Inkarnit
I agree with you there. Colin v Spooky is always a fun time.
June 21, 2016 at 12:58 pm
spookymilk
Colin, brace the fragile ego: that analysis is rock stupid. I wouldn’t do that and after eleventy games played with me, you should know that I don’t bus wolves without cause, particularly to be the first on the wagon all day. It’s honestly unacceptable that you would place that play in the realm of something I would do. I talk about it probably every other game I play.
June 21, 2016 at 1:01 pm
Inkarnit
I’m not entirely discounting the idea, as Will pointed out earlier. But I do find it unlikely that you would be the first to go after viola and with such vigor. I would expect wolf!spooky to see her comments, think “oh man this is bad” and wait until someone else pointed it out before latching onto it as well for the bussing. But being the first to point it out and make such a big thing out of it is either veteran wolf cutting a liability quick (not out of the realm of possibility) or a villager who caught a new wolf with obvious wolf tells.
June 21, 2016 at 1:22 pm
joepunman
I like this post.
June 21, 2016 at 1:11 pm
Colin Prime
huh. not the response I was expecting.
but yeah, you know I can’t accept “I would never do that” as a good reason. I can easily see you reading viola’s tailspin and deciding to jump on it right away to gain cred with the village.
fwiw spooky has declared this in previous games, and he is correct that he talks about this play in most games as a bad idea.
most interesting to me is that this is what you latch onto. not that you’re normal villager game is more aggressive across the board, as opposed to as focused as this one is, or that your posts seem fluffy to me.
the viola thing is kind of an easy out, as it makes me look dumb in the argument.
June 21, 2016 at 1:13 pm
Inkarnit
…
You almost make this too easy Colin.
June 21, 2016 at 1:13 pm
Inkarnit
That was in reference to “it makes me look dumb in the argument.”
June 21, 2016 at 1:15 pm
Colin Prime
roger that. my point is that it is a very dumb argument and spooky jumped right on it, and avoided the rest of the argument.
June 21, 2016 at 1:14 pm
Colin Prime
edit: it is a truly dumb argument. which is why I’m surprised you latched onto it.
June 21, 2016 at 1:18 pm
Inkarnit
Yeah, the “I wouldn’t do that as a wolf” is a purely WIFOM argument. I will say that I totally expected spooky to be coming after me this game, regardless of role. I was a little surprised that he didn’t, but perhaps it is because we are both villagers seeing things the same way and there’s been no need. Anyway, carry on. I’ll get the popcorn.
June 21, 2016 at 1:43 pm
spookymilk
I avoided the other stuff because it was also dumb, I guess. You said “villager spooky goes after everyone in the game to stir things up and to root out the wolves.” This is literally what I’ve been doing. I only went balls-to-the-wall with one person yesterday, but I poked and prodded at others as well. Literally nothing in your argument suggests to me that you’re actually reading this game.
June 21, 2016 at 1:44 pm
Colin Prime
nah, you’ve been pretty focused on just a few targets in the game, only half-heartedly prodding at some others.
June 21, 2016 at 1:45 pm
Colin Prime
not to mention the bluster in a lot of your posts about how hard you’re hunting. this to me also speaks of a spooky wolf game.
June 21, 2016 at 2:06 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
WTF is “WIFOM”? God, you’re the worst, Inkarnit.
June 21, 2016 at 2:14 pm
Inkarnit
It stands for Wine In Front Of Me.
I hope you can figure it out from there.
June 21, 2016 at 1:23 pm
joepunman
Joe: the day 1 excuse just falls flat with me. I’ve played with you as a wolf a few times, and this feels like your wolf game.
If I recall correctly, I’ve only ever been a wolf once on this site. And it was the street fighter game in which I didn’t know who the other wolves were, and vice versa.
June 21, 2016 at 1:43 pm
Colin Prime
you were a wolf with me once.
June 21, 2016 at 2:10 pm
joepunman
When? Remind me?
June 21, 2016 at 12:56 pm
TDO
I share similar thoughts with Collin.
From what I recall Collin attacked me twice when he was a wolf. Not doing that this game. He also sees the reasoning i have, but have not disclosed, regarding nettie.
Spooky i am 50/50 on.
KG and Melissa seem like wolves to me. KG is a very good player. With day one playing more like a day 3, i’m disappointing by his lack of hunting. Melissa comes across wolfish yesterday when I skim through her posts.
I’m relatively comfortable the village is made up on Collin, the primate playas’, karn, and nettie.
June 21, 2016 at 12:58 pm
kg2005
Don’t be so hard on yourself TDO, you’re not disappointing.
June 21, 2016 at 1:04 pm
TDO
Lmao, seriously I applaud you for that. Touche.
June 21, 2016 at 2:08 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
What about my posts is wolfish?
Also, I feel like you’re hiding behind the “TDO is always a villager” reputation you have. As much fun as it would be for that to continue, there’s always the possibility you are also a wolf.
I do understand Colin’s argument about Spooky being too focused on particulars in an almost “trying too hard to look so logical I HAVE to be a villager” kind of way. At te same time, he said I’m a wolf, and I’m very much not, so I feel like his other arguments lose traction with me.
TDO, I need a better explanation from you as to why I’m a wolf and you’re not.
June 21, 2016 at 12:56 pm
TDO
Vote KG,/B>
June 21, 2016 at 12:57 pm
TDO
unvote KG,/B> Vote KG
June 21, 2016 at 1:03 pm
nettiebarron
Stand by. TDO is currently experiencing technical difficulties.
June 21, 2016 at 1:05 pm
codefox
I honestly almost choked on my sandwich here 8D
June 21, 2016 at 1:07 pm
TDO
I think that’s the first time you zinged me. Let me virtually shake your hand, that was awesome. I was actually eating an apple when i read that and it could have ended badly for the monitor.
June 21, 2016 at 1:07 pm
daneekasghost
Heh.
June 21, 2016 at 1:05 pm
Inkarnit
I’ve been really busy today and look to be really busy for a lot of the day. But I just realized I have yet to vote.
So vote joepunman because I recognize a lot in his behavior as his one wolf game. That was Street Fighter and he was M. Bison. He played JUST like this.
June 21, 2016 at 1:06 pm
TDO
Something I’ve been pondering.
Who gains the most by the mod not talking about potential special roles and what if anything can we learn by this?
June 21, 2016 at 1:08 pm
Inkarnit
Good question. One thing I noticed in the Street Fighter game which had all hidden roles was that if Good had decided to out all their powers and roles it would probably have been very hard for Evil to overcome. This is a bit different because it’s unlikely that all 10 villagers have powers.
June 21, 2016 at 1:12 pm
daneekasghost
EARLY DAY 2 VOTING UPDATE
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nettiebarron -2-
Colin Prime -2- voting spookymilk
spookymilk -1-
kg2005 -1-
joepunman -1-
TDO voting kg2005
Royal Ape voting Colin Prime
MelissaD voting nettie
inkarnit voting joepunman
Dread Pirate voting Colin Prime
codefox voting nettiebarron
ash10101
June 21, 2016 at 1:13 pm
daneekasghost
This voting update doesn’t count, as it is nested.
June 21, 2016 at 1:15 pm
Inkarnit
Glad you caught it. Now I don’t have to point it out.
June 21, 2016 at 1:13 pm
ash10101
this is a fascinating question.
June 21, 2016 at 1:15 pm
Inkarnit
Oh, as to the question of who benefits… generally more information is better for the village, as the village is already working from little to no knowledge whereas the wolves are operating with tons of it. In this case, neither side, presumably, has any idea about roles. But the wolves still know who the villagers are.
June 21, 2016 at 1:34 pm
kg2005
Correct. It’s absolutely beneficial to the wolves.
June 21, 2016 at 1:17 pm
joepunman
Regarding Day One: Yes, I realize that I said that usually day one has little to go on, and normally, it does. During Day one, it’s hard to really have a good feel for anything. With that said, yesterday was a major exception to the rule. I haven’t seen a thread like that… well, ever. Thing is, I made a few jovial posts in the morning/early afternoon, and by the time I got a chance to look at things again there were 450 posts.
Regarding spooky: I saw something that looked funny. Stretching it out, I could see Spooky playing a long game, going after viola after she makes an early rookie mistake, sacrificing her, then backing off once he realized that she wasn’t getting any traction, then coming back later once the votes started leaning her way and realizing that she was going to be the lamb after all. Again, it’s a stretch, but I wanted to get his reaction, and I’m satisfied. Sometimes hunting for wolves involves making sure some are really sheep.
June 21, 2016 at 1:18 pm
ash10101
Hmm. Honestly I dont see a spooky wolf. He seems pretty hunty for him
June 21, 2016 at 1:19 pm
Inkarnit
I like this post.
June 21, 2016 at 1:42 pm
Colin Prime
so let’s add to this. spooky as a wolf leading a charge on a wolf day one is fairly preposterous. so when I bring it up to him, alongside two other very solid arguments, he stays focused on the dumbness of the one argument and avoids the other two. this to me is the most telling thing that’s happened yet.
June 21, 2016 at 1:44 pm
spookymilk
Everything you said was dumb. I had to focus on SOMEthing.
June 21, 2016 at 1:58 pm
Inkarnit
This is fun to watch. But I feel like I need to interject some. I don’t think Colin’s arguments are dumb. They could be wrong. They could even be horribly wrong. But they could be right too. I think it’s important to mention them and gauge reactions. I’ll withhold my opinion on the reactions themselves with regards to alignment for now, though.
June 21, 2016 at 2:11 pm
Colin Prime
this makes me nervous. all of my arguments are terrible and not based at all in any fact whatsoever.
I was hoping a few more would bite, but so far you’re the only one.
June 21, 2016 at 2:19 pm
spookymilk
Colin, you magnificent bastard. Just like that, I fall in love with you all over again.
I was wondering what had made you forget everything you knew about me.
June 21, 2016 at 2:21 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
Why are you potentially giving only terrible arguments? I feel like you’re setting yourself up as a wolf by saying, “I’m just pulling shit out of my ass to distract Spooky, who appears to be hunting me.”
June 21, 2016 at 2:24 pm
spookymilk
He wants to see who’s playing dumb and ignoring my entire Werewolf history to see who jumps on this bandwagon. Nothing he said about me lines up with the way I play, so I’m relieved to hear this was a test.
June 21, 2016 at 3:00 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
It’s only a test for people who knows how you play. I have played maybe two games with you.
June 21, 2016 at 3:19 pm
Colin Prime
nah. spooky was so obviously hunting all day on day one that me, a player who knows him well, going after him is pretty absurd. inkarnit allowing that the argument could have some validity is kind of damning.
June 21, 2016 at 3:45 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
I dunno. Depends on if Inkarnit is wicked smaht.
June 21, 2016 at 3:45 pm
Inkarnit
First, I’ve never played with spooky. I think. Maybe once? I did watch him play Mafia Universe championship as wolf though. But I can’t say that gives me enough of a barometer to know how spooky always does things.
Second, I was the first one who gave the conspiracy theory option any credence whatsoever. You just took it and ran with it. My only argument was that your ideas weren’t dumb because I had already made those ideas a possibility, though a longshot one as I said multiple times.
Third, I did say that I was withholding judgement on alignment. This was because I wanted to see how far things would go between you guys. I’ve gotten pretty decent at recognizing wolf!Colin I think and was looking for those tells in your argument.
June 21, 2016 at 2:11 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
This seems very straw man. I almost agree with Inkarnit below. Oh god, I do agree. Jesus, this hurts. I need to see a doctor. AGREEING BURNS.
June 21, 2016 at 2:11 pm
Colin Prime
hey there’s another bite!
June 21, 2016 at 1:46 pm
spookymilk
I realize that I said that usually day one has little to go on, and normally, it does
Not really related to this game, but day one never has “nothing to go on.” This is a losing attitude that the villages have picked up, but tone is important, entrance is important, and votes are important.
June 21, 2016 at 2:09 pm
joepunman
Yes, but it usually becomes important in the light of the results after Day 1. While we’re in Day 1, our information is at its most limited. That’s why I place less weight on it.
June 21, 2016 at 2:20 pm
spookymilk
Again, that’s a losing mentality. It’s important at the time, and it’s just as much the time to find a wolf in day one as it is later. The fact that so many people don’t play that way here is more indicative of the site than it is the game. Day One wolf kills aren’t that uncommon elsewhere.
June 21, 2016 at 2:22 pm
Inkarnit
Can confirm. After playing elsewhere, I realized that we are terrible at Day 1 around here. But I’m glad we fixed that for this game at least.
June 21, 2016 at 2:43 pm
Colin Prime
agreed with spooky here. this argument has been thrown about a ton of times, and it’s generally agreed upon that a lackadaisical day one is very bad for the village. right now looks a lot like joe/nettie could both be wolves and viola really screwed the game for both of them.
June 21, 2016 at 1:18 pm
joepunman
If I’m a wolf, why would I put a vote on viola late in the day during a time when there was no majority. I realize my absence is what’s leading a lot of people to me, but look at more than just that.
June 21, 2016 at 1:19 pm
Inkarnit
It’s not your absence. It’s more that what you posted until the end of day was jokes and jokes alone. But I do like your last post.
June 21, 2016 at 1:47 pm
spookymilk
I didn’t love your yesterday, but your absence is a much smaller deal than Viola’s weird-ass last second vote against you when she hadn’t really mentioned you all day. TAG did that and outed bhiggum in a game way back when, and we haven’t seen a wolf throw a desperate last-second vote like that since.
June 21, 2016 at 1:59 pm
Inkarnit
Yeah, this isn’t something you can fight very well Joe. Viola played a clearly newb wolf Day 1 and where she points and doesn’t point is extremely relevant. Throwing a vote on you at the end of the day tells me either you are a wolf or Annette is. I’d be willing to bet on one of you as wolf.
June 21, 2016 at 2:08 pm
joepunman
Did you ever consider she was lashing out at me since my vote helped start her slippery slope toward the gallows?
June 21, 2016 at 2:14 pm
Inkarnit
Yes. Which is why I said either you or Annette are wolves with her.
June 21, 2016 at 2:12 pm
nettiebarron
I’m not sure I agree with this assessment, despite my leaning toward Joe as a wolf. There was very little traction on anyone but Viola last night. However, there were a couple of votes on Joe. Viola may have been throwing her vote on Joe in hopes that it would start a trend that way.
June 21, 2016 at 2:13 pm
Inkarnit
You’re right. There were a couple. You and her.
June 21, 2016 at 2:15 pm
nettiebarron
No. Me and TDO were both voting Joe. Then Viola jumped on board.
June 21, 2016 at 2:16 pm
Colin Prime
TDO and I.
June 21, 2016 at 2:18 pm
Inkarnit
Now who’s making jokey posts and voting for the easy vote? 😉
June 21, 2016 at 2:17 pm
Inkarnit
Ah I missed that. Still, the prior stuff related to you is not insignificant.
June 21, 2016 at 1:20 pm
Inkarnit
unvote joepunman; vote nettiebarron because I still see a wolf/wolf conversation with viola.
June 21, 2016 at 1:44 pm
nettiebarron
No you don’t. You’re just being a dolt.
June 21, 2016 at 1:54 pm
Inkarnit
This new tactic of being aggressive towards your accusers is interesting. But not helping your case.
June 21, 2016 at 2:00 pm
nettiebarron
It’s only for you.
June 21, 2016 at 2:01 pm
Inkarnit
Didn’t you respond to codefox about him being tone deaf?
June 21, 2016 at 2:02 pm
nettiebarron
Huh. Yes, I did. I may be a tad cranky today. 156 emails in my inbox could be partially to blame.
June 21, 2016 at 1:43 pm
nettiebarron
Vote KG I’d like him to be helpful, instead of hilarious. Although, if he could do both, that would be acceptable.
June 21, 2016 at 2:17 pm
kg2005
Okay, I just got out of 5 excruciating hours of meetings. I’m going to go for a run and then shower (probably). Then I’ll get to work and tell everyone who the wolves are.
June 21, 2016 at 2:19 pm
kg2005
Here’s a hint, their names rhyme with Pooky and Stalin.
June 21, 2016 at 2:22 pm
spookymilk
Jesus. We beg for you to show up and this is what you come up with?
Me? After yesterday?
June 21, 2016 at 2:23 pm
kg2005
Well certainly not before yesterday. We’re in space, we’re not time travelers. Be back in a bit!
June 21, 2016 at 2:26 pm
spookymilk
You’re a dick, but I laughed.
June 21, 2016 at 2:27 pm
Inkarnit
I laughed too. But KG might still be a wolf. Just a funny one.
June 21, 2016 at 2:45 pm
Colin Prime
secondy second (that KG is a dick).
June 21, 2016 at 2:16 pm
Colin Prime
unvote spooky vote nettie
that last comment just screams wolf. another safe vote, the second in two days, coupled with the jokey post is textbook wolf.
June 21, 2016 at 2:19 pm
Inkarnit
No, but seriously which comment are you referring to from Annette as screaming wolf?
June 21, 2016 at 2:22 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
I’m going to go with her extremely flippant vote. There’s no real argument behind it. It’s a joke vote.
June 21, 2016 at 2:24 pm
Inkarnit
You know what would really scream wolf from her? If she claimed Seer.
June 21, 2016 at 2:25 pm
nettiebarron
And I’m never flippant? Or I never joke? Or I always have an argument for all my votes? Which is it?
June 21, 2016 at 2:30 pm
Colin Prime
June 21, 2016 at 2:23 pm
nettiebarron
Why safe?
June 21, 2016 at 2:37 pm
Colin Prime
cause he’s mostly absent and has mild suspicion around him, but no traction on the vote, so it’s easy to put one on him at this point.
June 21, 2016 at 2:26 pm
TDO
I think KG is a good bet to be a wolf at this point. He mentions he will be back shortly (for a run and shower) but then decides to come back just to make a half funny post. Why not just make one concise post about your thoughts unless your trying to fluff like your tail?
My vote on KG stands…or floats in this case.
June 21, 2016 at 2:27 pm
spookymilk
I don’t know what he’s trying to do. I’m wondering if there’s a neutral (since DG seemed insistent that we get back up to 14 people) and if his weird play is it.
June 21, 2016 at 2:29 pm
Inkarnit
That’s an interesting speculation. However, with 4 wolves there’s almost no room for a neutral.
June 21, 2016 at 2:30 pm
spookymilk
It wouldn’t change the number of times the village can miss. I don’t know…it could be possible.
June 21, 2016 at 2:34 pm
Inkarnit
OK let’s assume there is a neutral for a second. Should we adjust our actions any or carry on as if one doesn’t exist?
June 21, 2016 at 2:36 pm
TDO
At this point I think we should carry on as one doesn’t exist. It’s possible no special roles exist, and we don’t want to create a hiding spot for a wolf by assuming.
June 21, 2016 at 2:37 pm
Inkarnit
Actually, the opening text specifically said “There are special roles.”
June 21, 2016 at 2:42 pm
TDO
I’m special….Seriously….a talking gorilla in outerspace….ok maybe not that special as there are two of us…
June 21, 2016 at 2:43 pm
spookymilk
I would ignore. I’m just trying to make sense of kg’s play so far.
June 21, 2016 at 2:56 pm
ash10101
This would be weird.
June 21, 2016 at 3:17 pm
kg2005
Half funny? Call me a wolf all you want, but that cuts to the core, gorilla.
June 21, 2016 at 2:36 pm
TDO
I’m also actually surprised no one has pushed harder on my lack style this game. Last game really got under my skin (i’ve seen past games force peeps to retire from aggrevation). I’d rather not retire, so I’m trying to not let the game get to me as much.
June 21, 2016 at 2:38 pm
Colin Prime
I assumed this was the case. when you’re here you’re offering your thoughts on the game and not trying to just show up for the sake of showing up so you’re not tripping my radar at all.
June 21, 2016 at 2:45 pm
TDO
Thanks to Karn for pointing out that DG did say there are special roles. Which got me thinking.
There has to be at least 1 thing different than a typical seer (and possibly angel) role. If this were the case, I would think DG would just say there is an angel and seer.
Maybe this is like the Star Trek game (hey spooky) where someone has to outlive someone else. Not a neutral, but someone with their own winning rule.
June 21, 2016 at 2:47 pm
TDO
And yes, space does weird things to me, so I am a few hours behind the logic of the rest of you. BUT, the thing that nags me, is the why. Why didn’t DG just say what the rules are. I’m thinking if we find the why, we may find at least another wolf, or a key to a sure wolf defeat. In the meantime, I think we should continue hunting as normal, but let that percolate a little.
June 21, 2016 at 2:49 pm
nettiebarron
Doesn’t a neutral generally have their own winning role? With hidden tasks to fullfill?
June 21, 2016 at 2:49 pm
spookymilk
Yes
June 21, 2016 at 2:49 pm
spookymilk
I thought of this, specifically as it relates to Kage. A lot of neutrals kind of sit back and watch the landscape before they make a play. They have no vested interest in finding wolves, so they don’t bother to “look” until it’s time to make a move.
June 21, 2016 at 2:47 pm
spookymilk
vote joepunman
June 21, 2016 at 3:05 pm
codefox
unvote nettie
I find nettie’s very defensive posts today very interesting. I think it puts her in a bad light and she hasn’t really contributed much in the way of hunting today. I want to put some pressure some other places today to see what happens.
vote kg
Ironically, I’m going to vote for kg. He’s quiet now a couple days in a row and hasn’t contributed much at all. I see the discussion of potentially there being a neutral party involved which could explain his general silence but I’d like to dig into this a bit more!
June 21, 2016 at 3:16 pm
Colin Prime
ok, sincere list post for thoughts since I will probably start having to pay attention to my kids now that the rest of the kids have left. I’ll be around all day but not as present for a few hours.
also, tomorrow I hit the road for work in the afternoon, so will likely be gone all afternoon and evening. will try to check in on my phone when I can.
I’m only including those that I have some suspicions of or don’t have a read on…
Royal Ape – prollynoddawolf i say probably because his contributions are at least ostensibly helpful, and he has solid answers for challenges. my hesitation loops back to my thoughts yesterday. his responses are very careful and thoroughly thought out, which trips my radar.
nettiebarron – wolf I feel good about this one. she hasn’t offered anything other than defensive or joke posts.
MelissaDiamondPhillips – maybewolf in the same camp as nettie for reasons, but I have seen more substance out of her than nettie for sure. could just be a lazy villager.
kg2005 – maybewolf – the thought of him as neutral does give second thoughts to me thinking of him as a wolf… but still when he’s this flip he’s usually a wolf.
joepunman – prollywolf – the vote from viola is damning, and his posts still lack substance, as all he’s offering is self-defense. in his defense he has some heat on him so has to go on the defensive some, but I’m not seeing much from him in his defense that is solid.
inkarnit – maybewolf ostensibly hunting but his latching onto my fairly obviously loopholed arguments against spooky gives me pause. reading his game intently next.
Dread Pirate – no read – a little too loose for his wolf game, though he’s barely around again so hard to say. I’ll get a better read by tomorrow.
ash10101 no read.
June 21, 2016 at 3:38 pm
spookymilk
I’d be extremely surprised if Melissa or Ash was a wolf, after my morning re-read of Viola. I think she was counting on one of them to be her ticket to day two.
June 21, 2016 at 3:41 pm
nettiebarron
I agree with this statement.
June 21, 2016 at 3:25 pm
daneekasghost
DAY 2 AFTERNOON VOTING UPDATE
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nettiebarron -3- voting kg2005
kg2005 -3-
Colin Prime -2- voting nettiebarron
joepunman -1-
spookymilk voting joepunman
TDO voting kg2005
Royal Ape voting Colin Prime
MelissaD voting nettiebarron
inkarnit voting nettiebarron
Dread Pirate voting Colin Prime
codefox voting kg2005
ash10101
June 21, 2016 at 3:25 pm
daneekasghost
7 is majority, night in 5.5 hours or so.
June 21, 2016 at 3:35 pm
ash10101
So, ive now read back the day and I think the people who are looking most suspicious are Joe and Annette. I also am not against the pressure that is on colin, since he has had a few weird reads, like KG and annette
June 21, 2016 at 3:48 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
What’s suspicious about Joe and Annette?
June 21, 2016 at 3:56 pm
ash10101
Some of her interaction with viola yesterday seemed like viola making a mistake and trying to work with another wolf
June 21, 2016 at 3:57 pm
spookymilk
Interesting read. I’ll look at that in an hour and a half when I’m home if I’m still thinking about it.
June 21, 2016 at 3:57 pm
nettiebarron
It seems highly unlikely for a newbie wolf to choose another wolf to park their vote on all day.
June 21, 2016 at 3:59 pm
spookymilk
I agree with that, and it’s been sticking in my craw for a while. New wolves are usually coached to some degree, but we often find that they have a hard time parking a vote on a wolf for a long time. Sometimes, they can’t do it at all.
June 21, 2016 at 4:06 pm
Inkarnit
I could see someone coaching her to do just that though. But it’s a consideration for sure.
June 21, 2016 at 4:06 pm
ash10101
Explain? I think im confused on what you meant here even though its obvious
June 21, 2016 at 4:11 pm
nettiebarron
Viola parked her vote on me for most of the day. As a newbie wolf, does that seem like a likely strategy?
June 21, 2016 at 4:13 pm
ash10101
Ahhhh. Hmm. That is a very valid point, though if she was trying to make herself look better, voting a fellow wolf might not be out of the question?
June 21, 2016 at 3:40 pm
ash10101
TDO, Royal, and spooky all seem to be genuinely hunting, though spooky and royal are both incredibly good at this so I suppose they could be faking
June 21, 2016 at 3:52 pm
joepunman
Reads from today:
Colin Prime – his insights today have been sketchy at best. He’s tripping some radar for me by jumping on me with spooky, saying that viola’s vote on me is damning while completely ignoring my defense that I voted for her before most of the other people last night.
Spooky – I think he’s mostly likely a villager. Yes, I asked a question earlier, but it was to help me feel better about him.
Inkarnit – I’m leaning villager, but one thing that’s concerning is that I feel like he’s standing behind Spooky and agreeing with everything he’s throwing out there.
Kg2005 – Putting in even less input that I am. Hard to read, but leaning wolf
Nettie – I feel like she hasn’t contributed much today, and yesterday there was the whole interaction between her and viola. Yet, despite all that, I still am not convinced she’s a wolf
Ash – I haven’t seen a lot from him. Today he’s been pretty non existent
TDO – Seems genuinely helpful today, but more on the game itself than other players. He’s had some comments on KG though. Lean villager
Dread Pirate – reads to me like someone who’s busy today, but still finding time to contribute. Villagery
Codefox – he’s another that initially feels a little wolfy, but something strikes me that he’s doing more hunting than framing. Villager
Melissa – absent, but not too suspicious. She’s somewhere in the middle
RoyalApe – A lot of people are calling him a wolf. His posts seem to be more commenting on other people’s posts. I don’t know him well, but leaning wolfy
June 21, 2016 at 4:08 pm
Royal Ape
Who has been calling me a wolf today? I don’t think that is the narrative any longer.
I just reread your d1 and most of your d2. Your d1 was very Under the Radar. You did make a good vote back onto Viola and I think you read a bit better today. In a vacuum, I might be voting you right now but not today.
June 21, 2016 at 4:10 pm
nettiebarron
You still feeling Colin? I wasn’t but I’m starting to wonder.
June 21, 2016 at 4:15 pm
Royal Ape
Not sure, doing some random reads using the Find function.
June 21, 2016 at 4:12 pm
daneekasghost
********HERE’s WHAT SUCKS ABOUT BEING THE MOD*************
We could put you in a vacuum if you want.vote: Royal Ape
*********ALL MY ONE-LINERS AREN’T ALLOWED***************
June 21, 2016 at 4:16 pm
Royal Ape
I giggled.
June 21, 2016 at 4:16 pm
Inkarnit
Hah that’s a good one.
June 21, 2016 at 4:15 pm
Inkarnit
Huh. I’m agreeing with spooky on everything?
June 21, 2016 at 4:21 pm
spookymilk
He’s not the only one to notice, but I’m fairly sure we’re doing it independently of one another.
June 21, 2016 at 4:25 pm
Inkarnit
Yeah I think he’s parroting Colin on it. And we don’t agree on codefox. Unless your opinion on him changed.
June 21, 2016 at 4:48 pm
spookymilk
Not much. I like every vote he makes and hate the presentation of all of them.
June 21, 2016 at 4:14 pm
Royal Ape
MelissaDiamondPhillips – reading you through on d1 was a hoot. I’ll be shocked if you are evil.
June 21, 2016 at 4:19 pm
Inkarnit
You shut your mouth! How dare you say anything positive about my nemesis!
June 21, 2016 at 4:21 pm
Royal Ape
If she asked me to, I would nightfall on you right now.
Then again, I don’t need much encouragement to do that 🙂
June 21, 2016 at 4:23 pm
Inkarnit
Well that’s not a thing here usually. But she’d totally ask you to if it was.
True story: Royal once nightfell on me with the first post of the game.
June 21, 2016 at 4:26 pm
ash10101
Seriously?? was he right??
June 21, 2016 at 4:27 pm
Inkarnit
Yes.
But that’s because he was a wolf and I was Good.
June 21, 2016 at 4:46 pm
Royal Ape
Did I even win that game? I don’t remember. But it was worth it nonetheless.
June 21, 2016 at 4:51 pm
Inkarnit
I don’t think so. I think Good won.
June 21, 2016 at 4:26 pm
kg2005
I don’t know about whether she’s a wolf, but I’m pretty sure she is evil.
June 21, 2016 at 5:09 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
Definitely not a wolf. I plead the 5th on evil. All I know is my opinion of Royal Ape has increased significantly. Considering he was recommended by Inkarnit, he had a long way to climb.
June 21, 2016 at 4:16 pm
kg2005
Alrighty, I want you all to know that I read the 600+ comments from yesterday.
Spooky, I want you to know that I made the comment about you and Colin being wolves just to get a reaction. I’d have to say your reaction is the wolfiest thing I’ve seen from you, would you panic like that if you were a villager? I don’t know.
I read yesterday through that lens. I can definitely see your game as a wolf game. You jumped on viola immediately and stayed on her most of the day. Granted, she made some pretty wolfy posts, but you didn’t seem to have any doubt at all until the end of the day when you thought annette might be a better vote. Then you jumped back to viola at the end when it was inevitable.
That said, not reading it in real time may have biased me a bit, and the point you made over and over again is true, it’s a bad idea to vote out the most active wolf hunter this early.
June 21, 2016 at 4:18 pm
kg2005
Now I have to read 250 more comments from today. Grumble grumble.
June 21, 2016 at 4:20 pm
Inkarnit
I can make it 350.
June 21, 2016 at 4:21 pm
spookymilk
I wondered if you did that. At the time I was still recovering from being super pissed about Colin’s post. I can only take so many reaction tests, gang.
June 21, 2016 at 4:22 pm
Royal Ape
I didn’t get sense that Spooky stayed on Viola all day fwiw.
June 21, 2016 at 4:25 pm
Colin Prime
yeah i tested spooky pretty hard today, and if you read his game yesterday with a neutral perspective you see him testing and engaging with pretty much everyone in the game. I don’t see his wolf game in this one.
June 21, 2016 at 4:22 pm
The Dread Pirate
Brief period between court and going home, let’s try this unvote Colin, vote inkarnit
Colin the Lesser has been trying of so hard to plant little spooky seeds for two days while trying not to look like planting them and then he bought Colin the Superior’s gambit hook, line and sinker.
June 21, 2016 at 4:23 pm
Inkarnit
Oh yeah totally did that.
June 21, 2016 at 4:26 pm
ash10101
so, in case of some weird thing making me vanish, vote annette for the above reasons
June 21, 2016 at 4:40 pm
Royal Ape
does nettie = annette?
June 21, 2016 at 4:41 pm
Inkarnit
Ah yes.
June 21, 2016 at 4:28 pm
kg2005
Vote Royal Ape
I should probably get a vote down at some point. Not knowing too much about him, there seem to be rumors that he’s played this game quite a bit before. If that’s the case, he seems to be way too reactive to whatever anyone posts about him. Wolves tend to be way more picky about any negative views about them.
June 21, 2016 at 4:30 pm
ash10101
THis seems like a weird vote to me, I just dont see an ape wolf
June 21, 2016 at 4:31 pm
kg2005
You may not see it, but I gave the reason I did. Do you have any thoughts on that reason?
June 21, 2016 at 4:32 pm
Inkarnit
I do. I haven’t gotten a defensive feel from him at all. I straight up accused him and led the train, then backed off him to question him today. I’m not sold on Good!Ape yet but he’s not in my wolf pool for the moment.
June 21, 2016 at 4:40 pm
kg2005
Okay, okay. My speed reading game is not very good. I went through and specifically reread Royal Ape. He did have a few defensive posts, but not nearly as much of an overall percentage of his posts as I thought.
June 21, 2016 at 4:31 pm
Inkarnit
Well, genetic engineering has come a long way.
June 21, 2016 at 4:42 pm
Inkarnit
Spooky, since we apparently independently agree on everything, do you see what I see?
June 21, 2016 at 4:49 pm
spookymilk
I might.
June 21, 2016 at 5:09 pm
Inkarnit
I’m guessing you don’t actually from below posts. I’ll make a new post with what I thought I saw.
June 21, 2016 at 4:43 pm
kg2005
Unvote Royal Ape
Vote annette
I’m grasping at straws here. I need to put a vote down because I’ll be gone for awhile, then playing on my phone for most of the night. This is entirely based off of her wondering “Why todahshy?” at the beginning of the day. Wolves love to give their decisions meaning.
June 21, 2016 at 4:45 pm
nettiebarron
I think I might be getting uncomfortably close to majority now? Let’s be careful. Don’t lynch me on accident.
June 21, 2016 at 4:49 pm
Royal Ape
I *think* you are at 5 votes. Code also previously voted you. Do you want to make a claim?
Consider this my intent to vote you.
June 21, 2016 at 4:50 pm
Inkarnit
You’re at 5. You need 7. Might be worth claiming since you’re close.
June 21, 2016 at 4:47 pm
Royal Ape
Reread kg. Potential wolf certainly but feels more like disengaged good – especially after these last few posts.
June 21, 2016 at 4:50 pm
spookymilk
These last few indeed look like classic villager kg. He’s a good player, but so far he’s not a vote I would consider.
June 21, 2016 at 5:02 pm
kg2005
I’m a good wolf (or I used to be), and I’m good at using roles to the villagers advantage, but as a vanilla wolf hunter, my skills are vastly overrated.
June 21, 2016 at 4:52 pm
codefox
This is interesting and kg’s vote makes me think Nettie may actually be clean. Or at least makes her look better. Kg has been pretty quiet in this game and then drops this vote on Nettie before leaving for possibly the night? Nettie is already loaded up on votes and I don’t think we need an early lynch on anyone today.
June 21, 2016 at 4:53 pm
nettiebarron
Okay, yes. I need to claim. I am the seer.
June 21, 2016 at 4:54 pm
nettiebarron
Hopefully, there is an angel who can save me tonight.
June 21, 2016 at 4:54 pm
Royal Ape
Please complete your claim. Views?
Quickly, with conviction. I am known to lynch seer claimants that I don’t believe.
June 21, 2016 at 4:55 pm
spookymilk
Go on. What have you got?
June 21, 2016 at 4:57 pm
Inkarnit
Do I need to even mention the last time you claimed Seer? I feel like it hasn’t been mentioned yet this hour.
June 21, 2016 at 4:57 pm
ash10101
What was the last time she claimed seer
June 21, 2016 at 4:58 pm
Inkarnit
I forget which game. But it was a day 1 false claim as a wolf and it was probably one of the worst moves made here up to that point. And we’ve never let it drop.
June 21, 2016 at 4:58 pm
codefox
Enlight us?
June 21, 2016 at 4:56 pm
Inkarnit
unvote nettie pending info.
June 21, 2016 at 4:57 pm
nettiebarron
I peeked DP first night. He is NEUTRAL. I peeked Melissa last night. She is a villager, no role.
June 21, 2016 at 4:59 pm
The Dread Pirate
I can confirm this.
June 21, 2016 at 5:00 pm
Inkarnit
Cool.
So either Annette AND DP are both wolves here or this is legit.
June 21, 2016 at 5:01 pm
spookymilk
Even if it might not be a disastrous play for two wolves, I honestly doubt Annette would make it as a wolf.
Will, what’s the win condition?
June 21, 2016 at 5:02 pm
Royal Ape
While prepping to see her claim – I did see that the post that read like role fishing mentioned both an evil seer possibility and neutrals. So it fits from a hint laying stand point.
June 21, 2016 at 5:03 pm
Royal Ape
Why the view on Melissa?
June 21, 2016 at 5:03 pm
Inkarnit
Besides the fact that it’s Melissa?
June 21, 2016 at 5:00 pm
Inkarnit
Any specifics on your role that you can share?
June 21, 2016 at 5:01 pm
Royal Ape
More information sir. What kind of neutral? Why did you not claim neutral d1?
I like working with neutrals that claim such early and am less inclined to do so late.
June 21, 2016 at 5:09 pm
The Dread Pirate
I can’t share my win condition, but, since DG is mostly brilliant, you can rest assured that it is truly neutral.
Now I don’t have to worry so much about playing such a completely different game!
June 21, 2016 at 5:20 pm
Royal Ape
Why can’t you share your win condition? Lie if you have to 🙂
June 21, 2016 at 5:24 pm
Inkarnit
I, too, would like to know what your claimed win condition is. If you are forbidden from telling us, then like Royal said, make it up in a way that can help you. And the village at the same time, hopefully.
June 21, 2016 at 5:33 pm
The Dread Pirate
Fine, go ahead and waste one of your two missed wolf chances on someone the seer outed as a neutral.
June 21, 2016 at 5:13 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
Uh. I can also confirm this.
June 21, 2016 at 4:59 pm
Inkarnit
Well that’s extremely specific. I think she might ACTUALLY be the Seer this time. DP, I assume you’ll confirm.
June 21, 2016 at 5:01 pm
The Dread Pirate
Boom, beat you to the punch.
Anyway, I have a win condition independent of y’all, so don’t mind me and I won’t mind either wolves or villagers. (Hence, me ignoring Viola yesterday)
June 21, 2016 at 5:04 pm
Royal Ape
It would be great for you to share.
If all true, this also means that the set is 9 goods vs 4 evils vs 1 neutral. Yowzers.
June 21, 2016 at 5:08 pm
spookymilk
No different from 10-4 from a mistake standpoint. May even be better since a possible final day would be 2-1 rather than 3-1.
June 21, 2016 at 5:10 pm
Royal Ape
Except neutrals aren’t playing for good – so it is another player that could cause problems.
June 21, 2016 at 5:19 pm
spookymilk
I get that, but the villagers just have to take him into account when deciding how to close to get to majority.
June 21, 2016 at 5:00 pm
spookymilk
Well, it’s pretty believable, at least. Neutrals often don’t talk much and Melissa was a lock villager for me after reading Viola.
June 21, 2016 at 5:00 pm
nettiebarron
I brought up the idea of a Neutral on day one, so as to get that information talked about if I died. I also put Melissa and DP at the top of my list.
June 21, 2016 at 5:03 pm
nettiebarron
So, if there is an angel who can save me tonight, any suggestions on who I should peek tonight?
June 21, 2016 at 5:06 pm
Royal Ape
Trust your gut. With hidden role set – could be roles that alter views in any number of ways. Don’t discuss it and if you survive – hold the view for a while tomorrow – especially if it is a hit.
June 21, 2016 at 5:07 pm
kg2005
Sure couldn’t hurt to know what spooky is. Althought suggesting you look at spooky might get him killed.
June 21, 2016 at 5:10 pm
spookymilk
I figured this upped my chances of being killed considerably. If the angel’s protecting Annette I could go. I’m not the angel, at least.
June 21, 2016 at 5:14 pm
Inkarnit
Well, at the very least it would solve a lot of paranoid conspiracy theories, mine included. So maybe the wolves would like to help out there.
June 21, 2016 at 5:04 pm
kg2005
Unvote nettie
June 21, 2016 at 5:05 pm
Inkarnit
Since Annette isn’t the wolf, I’m highly inclined to believe punman is.
vote joe
June 21, 2016 at 5:06 pm
ash10101
You know, I might go for this one. I want to,read back his interactions though
June 21, 2016 at 5:06 pm
ash10101
I think I believe this. unvote Nettie sorry for doubting you Annette. Back to the drawing board for me, you were my most likely
June 21, 2016 at 5:09 pm
kg2005
You think you believe it? What part wouldn’t you believe?
June 21, 2016 at 5:11 pm
ash10101
The highly paranoid part.
June 21, 2016 at 5:12 pm
spookymilk
Can confirm that Ash is constantly paranoid in all forms of games
June 21, 2016 at 5:15 pm
Inkarnit
I can confirm this too. She’s almost as bad as Melissa.
June 21, 2016 at 5:15 pm
ash10101
Ugh. I hate that this is true….but….he’s not wrong.
June 21, 2016 at 5:15 pm
Inkarnit
Fuck Ash sorry. *He’s.
June 21, 2016 at 5:16 pm
ash10101
*he
June 21, 2016 at 5:28 pm
ash10101
hey, you caught yourself this time!
June 21, 2016 at 5:29 pm
Inkarnit
I caught myself last time too. I suck, but at least I recognize it immediately.
June 21, 2016 at 5:34 pm
ash10101
Wait, there was a last time?
June 21, 2016 at 5:42 pm
ash10101
When was that haha
June 21, 2016 at 7:56 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
OH NO YOU DI’N’T. Wolfson, I’m not paranoid. Ass hat! I’m just always on to your shenigans.
June 21, 2016 at 5:09 pm
Royal Ape
Process of Elimination time:
violabeenice (wolf, shoved out an airlock, day 1)
todahshy (funny bone attack, night 1)
TDO
spookymilk – strong good read
Royal Ape – pumping rainbows if you look in right places
nettiebarron – seer claim
MelissaDiamondPhillips – seer clear
kg2005 – reads sort of villagery
joepunman
inkarnit – pretty solid good read
Dread Pirate – neutral claim/view by seer
Colin Prime
codefox
ash10101
—-
So 3 evils in TDO, punman, Colin, code and ash? And if my reads are right – that feels almost like a math win. Can’t be that easy?
June 21, 2016 at 5:11 pm
spookymilk
I’m tellin’ y’all, codefox is dirty dirrrrrrrty
June 21, 2016 at 7:57 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
Perhaps in the sexiest way possible, but I’m still not understanding your wolf point. Though, after I ready another 800 notes here, I’ll probably find him claiming to be a wolf.
June 21, 2016 at 5:12 pm
ash10101
I’m not a wolf. I agree on Joe though, and I think I could be persuaded to agree fox is guilty though I’m just not getting any read on him
June 21, 2016 at 5:10 pm
kg2005
Vote ash10101
June 21, 2016 at 5:12 pm
spookymilk
Read over viola day one. I think it kind of clears Ash.
June 21, 2016 at 5:16 pm
kg2005
You’re right, it reads pretty clean. Although it also reads as someone who has played with us quite a bit and I don’t remember anything about him. Although I think I’ve been killed early as a vanillager in my last few games.
Anyway, just keep holding my hand through this. We’ll make it out.
June 21, 2016 at 5:12 pm
Inkarnit
OK, so Spooky says we have classic Good!KG here but what I was seeing was Evil!KG. His odd behavior from yesterday was part of it, which we now know not to be related to a neutral role, since there’s no way there’s two. Today he’s done more of the same, then came in with some heat on Royal for being defensive. As soon as I point out that I disagreed with it and didn’t feel that why myself, he immediately backtracked and went another route, parking a vote on Nettie the Seer who already had 4 votes before indicating he’d likely be gone for a while. This felt like Evil backtracking while being questioned.
June 21, 2016 at 5:14 pm
spookymilk
Well, he still hasn’t posted a ton. It’s not a strong read yet as a result.
June 21, 2016 at 5:16 pm
Inkarnit
Now don’t go changing your mind. Then we’ll be agreeing again.
June 21, 2016 at 5:18 pm
Royal Ape
It felt villager flaily to me. Weak read at best. I guess I’m sort of pinged by saying he had to leave but still being here – but shrug – I’ve done that before too.
June 21, 2016 at 5:19 pm
kg2005
To be more specific, I have to leave in about a half hour and won’t be able to do much for the rest of the night.
June 21, 2016 at 5:18 pm
kg2005
I don’t disagree with you that I’ve played very poorly, at least.
June 21, 2016 at 5:18 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
Wow. This got harder. Annette, wtf with your early game since you’re not a wolf? You were so wolfy. My world is shattered.
In this case, I don’t even know. To be honest, Colin Prime is on my list of possibles because he’s spending a great deal of time setting up Spooky to rile him up while supposedly wolf hunting using it. Which clearly doesn’t work because I agreed with him (a supposed wolf tell), and I’m clearly not a wolf. It’s a huge wasteful way to hunt, so it makes it look like he’s putting on a show.
Also, I’m probably dying tonight, so fuck it. I can do what I want.
Well, actually, I mostly want to kick Inkarnit in the balls. I’ll go for the SECOND thing that makes sense to me.
vote Colin Prime
June 21, 2016 at 5:21 pm
Inkarnit
I guess you have a chance of dying tonight, yes. But I wouldn’t put you as the top 2 targets.
Melissa brings up a good point though. Since she’s Seer-cleared and bit on Colin’s fake reads on spooky, what does that tell us? Nothing. It tells us that Colin’s fake reads potentially caused more harm than good.
Am I biased in this argument because I seemingly bit on it too? I guess. But I also don’t think I “bit” on it when I’m the one that started that line of thinking.
Colin is definitely playing a much smoother game than what I saw of his last game with a lot less vitriol. That could be Evil!Colin, sure, but ultimately I think we have Good!Colin who tried a thing.
June 21, 2016 at 5:22 pm
nettiebarron
I didn’t feel well. OR you’re not as good at this as you think. I’m going with D. All of the above.
June 21, 2016 at 5:28 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
I don’t really think I’m that good at this. You’re mistaking me for Wolfson.
June 21, 2016 at 5:32 pm
Inkarnit
You’ve made this statement several times. I still haven’t found one instance where I claimed to be good at anything with regards to Werewolf.
Side note, thanks for making the Seer correlations towards me yesterday. I didn’t argue it too much because I figured I’d make a good shield for the actual Seer at least. But in the future, maybe don’t try to ferret out the Seer on Day 1 when you’re Good 😛
June 21, 2016 at 8:01 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
You thought you’d make a good shield? That plan is as overly convoluted as any plan you’ve ever had.
Secondly, you don’t have to outwardly say you think you’re the bomb diggity at this. You strut around being like, “Well, Dear Watson, per my astute and confounding observations, I’m going to circumlocute around an actual answer. However, as many know, my actual reasoning is perfunctory as my 800 other werewolf games with amazing werewolf players speak volumes to my actual reasoning. vote kg. I have my reasons.”
June 21, 2016 at 8:31 pm
Inkarnit
I’m sorry if my air of awesomeness doesn’t resonate deep within your black soul.
And it wasn’t convoluted. I just figured I’d not exactly deny it just in case it could draw the kill. Certainly don’t want to help the wolves find the Seer easier. I did debate how to respond though.
June 21, 2016 at 6:07 pm
Colin Prime
meh. spooky is one of the most dangerous players in this game. if I don’t find out as soon as possible whether or not I think he is a wolf, Ill spend all damn game fixated on him. so I put the test out and he passed and I moved on. I’m not trying look like I’m wolf hunting. I’m wolf hunting.
June 21, 2016 at 5:18 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
Goddamnit.
Unvote Nettie
Vote Colin Prime
June 21, 2016 at 5:20 pm
kg2005
Okay, I’ve got an idea. Annette should peek me tonight. Then if the wolves want to kill her peek they’ll at least be offing somebody who isn’t helping the village very much right now.
June 21, 2016 at 5:22 pm
Inkarnit
That might not be a bad idea. If you’re a wolf trying a bluff it might be worth calling the bluff.
June 21, 2016 at 5:21 pm
codefox
Hah, I posted my last post on the road and missed all the fall out a moment later! Still processing this a bit but my vote on KG doesn’t change yet based on this. His vote is the one that flushed Nettie.
June 21, 2016 at 5:27 pm
Inkarnit
I can see Evil!KG, especially with the backtracking on both Royal and ash.
But I’m not prepared to lynch there today. At least not as of this moment.
June 21, 2016 at 5:33 pm
kg2005
I looked up the spreadsheet to see if we had ever played together when I was a wolf. No, I was already 7 games into my current 15 game streak of not being a wolf.
Also, I just found out there was a game of Werewolf that took place that I was not aware of. Sad.
June 21, 2016 at 5:34 pm
Inkarnit
Yeah I’ve never actually seen Evil!KG. I didn’t mean to imply I had. I just meant that I can see Evil in your actions. And that I see “Not Good”!KG.
Which game weren’t you aware of?
June 21, 2016 at 5:35 pm
kg2005
Street Fighter.
June 21, 2016 at 5:36 pm
Inkarnit
Oh. Yeah I ran that one. It was designed by Royal Ape. Many here didn’t like it because it was not our normal kind of game.
June 21, 2016 at 5:39 pm
kg2005
Nevermind, I played it and was killed night one. Just wrong on the spreadsheet. That makes this 16 games in a row I’ve been a villager.
June 21, 2016 at 5:42 pm
spookymilk
If it makes you feel better, I forgot all about it too. I know I just recently told someone I hadn’t been a wolf in years before the offsite game I played, and was shocked yesterday when I looked at the spreadsheet and saw a wolf turn in my LAST GAME.
I vaguely remember having a role and a cover role. I vaguely remember talking to bhiggum in wolf chat but not the others. I must have been on heavy drugs all game long.
June 21, 2016 at 5:45 pm
Royal Ape
{q- Ink}Oh. Yeah I ran that one. It was designed by Royal Ape. Many here didn’t like it because it was not our normal kind of game.{/q}
I told you it might have been a bit extreme – but does Ink listen? NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
June 21, 2016 at 5:33 pm
spookymilk
“Still processing this a bit.” More exclamation points for feigned engagement. KILL CODEFOX
June 21, 2016 at 5:34 pm
kg2005
I have to say, I am for this, but I am a bit biased at the moment.
June 21, 2016 at 5:34 pm
codefox
How am I not engaged? Also, I picture you spinning around the room with a pitchfork…
June 21, 2016 at 5:39 pm
spookymilk
You might be perfectly engaged, but I’ve been raising my eyebrows at the exclamations after every suggestion that we turn up the heat on someone. You’ve been extremely careful to make “test” type votes and act like you’re fishing for information and I believe the punctuation is an overcompensation for the lies you’re telling.
And yes, when I’m hunting wolves, I never forget my real-life pitchfork.
June 21, 2016 at 5:35 pm
Inkarnit
Hmm… I hesitate to agree but… Maybe there’s something there. I’ll read back on him.
June 21, 2016 at 5:28 pm
Inkarnit
I just noticed your tags for this thread, DG. Bravo.
June 21, 2016 at 5:29 pm
ash10101
*reads up* hahaha
June 21, 2016 at 5:30 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
I’m off to be in a parade. I’ll be back to be useless later.
June 21, 2016 at 5:33 pm
Inkarnit
I prefer you being useless earlier in the day than later.
June 21, 2016 at 5:39 pm
daneekasghost
I GUESS IT’S PROBABLY TIME FOR A
VOTING UPDATE
.
kg2005 -3- voting ash10101
Colin Prime -2- voting nettiebarron
joepunman -2-
nettiebarron -1- voting kg2005
inkarnit -1- voting joepunman
ash10101 -1-
spookymilk voting joepunman
TDO voting kg2005
Royal Ape voting Colin Prime
MelissaD voting Colin Prime
Dread Pirate voting inkarnit
codefox voting kg2005
June 21, 2016 at 5:40 pm
daneekasghost
7 votes for majority, 3 hours + 20 minutes until NIGHT
June 21, 2016 at 5:40 pm
TDO
Couple Things
1- I fixed my internet so no phone posting tonight (yay)
2-Told you I didn’t think nettie was a wolf
3- I’m a villager for the 17th time out of 17 tries for those keeping track
4-KG is a wolf. First his non normal play I’ve mentioned before. 4b He lays a vote down on Ape then quickly moves off it. 4c his thinking about annette peeking him so if the wolves kill her peek it will be someone who isn’t helping. Why wouldn’t the wolves go for annette? there is no guarantee an angel exists.
June 21, 2016 at 5:42 pm
kg2005
You always think I’m a wolf. And you’re always wrong.
June 21, 2016 at 6:03 pm
Inkarnit
So he’s always a villager. And always thinks you’re a wolf incorrectly. Both of those things have to stop being true at some point.
June 21, 2016 at 5:42 pm
nettiebarron
I think I approve of this statement.
June 21, 2016 at 5:43 pm
spookymilk
Hmm. Yeah, I guess I was taking the existence of angels on faith.
…….WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
June 21, 2016 at 5:46 pm
kg2005
We don’t know if there is an angel, but the wolves don’t either. If they try to kill Annette tonight and they get stopped that gives the village another day which is an enormous loss, even bigger than a peek. If I’m the wolves I don’t kill her tonight, I kill her tomorrow.
June 21, 2016 at 5:56 pm
TDO
Every day she’s alive is a loss for the wolves.
June 21, 2016 at 7:11 pm
The Dread Pirate
Spooky, do you know what happens when you assugrey something?
June 21, 2016 at 6:04 pm
Inkarnit
So TDO is seeing what I see. Cool deal.
June 21, 2016 at 5:43 pm
spookymilk
Unvote joe, vote codefox
…but joe is still probably a wolf too.
June 21, 2016 at 5:47 pm
Royal Ape
unvote Colin Prime
vote codefox
June 21, 2016 at 5:50 pm
kg2005
Unvote ash
Vote codefox
I’ll be back on and off later.
June 21, 2016 at 5:52 pm
ash10101
Ok, so, im probably blind but I am not quite getting what we are seeing from codefox.
June 21, 2016 at 5:56 pm
TDO
I’m not either. Code seems to be playing like last game…
June 21, 2016 at 6:02 pm
spookymilk
No he doesn’t. It’s stagy, uncommitted BS.
June 21, 2016 at 6:03 pm
spookymilk
He’s also not saying anything in response, because perhaps like Viola when she was first prodded, he has no idea what to say and is hovering over the keys in a cold sweat, fur sticking up on end in fear.
June 21, 2016 at 5:57 pm
Colin Prime
it’s been laid out a few times that his posts have lacked substance. I’ve seen him as more villagery than anything but we’ll see what plays out there.
Personally I read KG’s jumping on that vote as more wolfy than anything else he’s done.
June 21, 2016 at 5:56 pm
Inkarnit
Reading codefox day 1:
Where he acknowledges viola’s evilness but votes onto nettie.
Then he tries to make sure we stop focusing on viola and look at other things.
He makes sure no one forgets the shade he’s casting on nettie.
Here he refused to unvote nettie yet but wanted to be sure to cast some shade at joe.
He spends more time on nettie, saying her vote on Colin is safe and finally starts to be willing to look elsewhere but isn’t sure where.
He goes to the new popular option, Melissa.
Where he defends his actions so far once todahshy gets on to him.
He makes a weird implication that if there was silencing it would be a villager silencing another villager. Perception slip because he knows the wolves don’t have that power?
Defends his non-vote on viola but still says she’s his biggest Evil read.
Where he says viola is his biggest Evil read again and then lists 3 confirmed NOT Evil people as his biggest suspicions.
Where he’s still unwilling to look really anywhere else besides the obvious and tries to buddy up to spooky.
He does defend Melissa’s Seer comments here, which we now know to be Good!Melissa.
Then further defends it here.
Where he is really against a Royal vote and then votes DP with a “new vote to come.”
Where he finally goes back to viola.
With 8 minutes to night, he throws some shade on both DP and Royal.
June 21, 2016 at 5:57 pm
Inkarnit
I can see possible Evil!code in this but I don’t think there’s anything glaring. I haven’t looked at the Day 2 stuff again yet though.
June 21, 2016 at 6:07 pm
spookymilk
It’s all evil. He tunneled on who he thought was the easiest kill, always. He did everything he could to act like he was so on board with Viola except for voting her, almost all day. He ended up consorting a lot with known non-wolves. This is DIRTY DIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRRTY
I AM SO PUMPED UP
June 21, 2016 at 6:09 pm
ash10101
kelly are you drinking haha
June 21, 2016 at 6:15 pm
spookymilk
Actually, no. I just f*&^ing love this game.
Well, okay, I am. But I’m like three swigs into my first beer, and I don’t think I had started when I made that comment.
June 21, 2016 at 6:19 pm
Inkarnit
Lightweight.
June 21, 2016 at 6:20 pm
spookymilk
Bitch, please. I can function on 15-16 beers and I saw you fall and knock over a beer after three and a half Orange Blossoms.
June 21, 2016 at 6:25 pm
Inkarnit
Also true. Though, to be fair, I didn’t knock over that beer from being drunk. I legitimately just slipped while trying to open it with that shitty bottle opener I had.
June 21, 2016 at 6:26 pm
spookymilk
ORANGE BLOSSOM COMES IN CANS
June 21, 2016 at 6:30 pm
Inkarnit
But I wasn’t opening my orange blossom. I was opening your beer for you because you were podcasting. It was your beer that got spilled, not mine. But it was totally me that spilt it.
June 21, 2016 at 6:49 pm
ash10101
This comment chain was so worse the ten seconds it took me to comment
June 21, 2016 at 5:57 pm
nettiebarron
I dunno. I could probably get on board for a Codefox vote. So, we’re letting KG off the hook for now?
June 21, 2016 at 6:00 pm
Inkarnit
I think we should call his bluff.
a) Evil!KG suggests you peek him, hoping you don’t actually do that, giving a reasonable sounding premise of making the wolves go after your peek instead of you
b) Good!KG suggests you peek him, hoping you do and hoping he can act as a shield for you
If A happens, then you caught us a wolf.
If B happens, then either you confirm he’s Good and we can focus elsewhere or he’s killed, also confirming he’s Good and letting us focus elsewhere while still giving the presumed Angel another day to save you.
There may be things I’m missing here. I’d appreciate another set or two of eyes.
June 21, 2016 at 6:06 pm
nettiebarron
I think I’ll leave my vote on KG for now. Like I said, I could be convinced of a Codefox vote, but I’m not done squinting at KG.
June 21, 2016 at 6:08 pm
ash10101
im definately not done looking at KG
June 21, 2016 at 5:59 pm
Colin Prime
unvote annette
sorry to contribute to you getting outed, but for sure your peeks are going to help a lot. getting DP and Melissa out of the way are great, especially for me since I’ve read melissa as wolfy the whole time and DP always confuses me.
June 21, 2016 at 6:07 pm
nettiebarron
DP confuses everybody.
June 21, 2016 at 8:07 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
“Getting…Melissa out of the way”…oh god, I’m so dead tonight.
June 21, 2016 at 6:01 pm
Inkarnit
WOOO I broke it!
June 21, 2016 at 6:02 pm
Inkarnit
Wow look at that codefox train. I’m not jumping on it yet.
June 21, 2016 at 6:04 pm
TDO
Thanks for the giant link post Karn. I’m just not seeing a Code vote and people voting that way almost simultaneously makes me wonder.
June 21, 2016 at 6:05 pm
Inkarnit
Sure, but surely spooky, Royal, and KG are not ALL wolves jumping onto that vote.
June 21, 2016 at 6:08 pm
spookymilk
TDO is always hesitant when people vote at the same time. There’s no history of wolves doing this, but he always brings it up.
June 21, 2016 at 6:11 pm
Inkarnit
Actually there is a history of wolves doing this. When I was a wolf with DP, Colin, and… meat? We had the luncheon codeword which indicated it was time for a wolfpile.
June 21, 2016 at 6:15 pm
spookymilk
Right, but that was to actually WIN the game. The wolves aren’t in that ballpark.
June 21, 2016 at 6:15 pm
Colin Prime
that was a white knuckler for sure. I was terrified it wasn’t going to work.
June 21, 2016 at 6:16 pm
Inkarnit
That’s true too. It was the final play of the game.
June 21, 2016 at 6:10 pm
Colin Prime
yeah but I think there might be a wolf in there somewhere…
June 21, 2016 at 6:10 pm
TDO
Thank you!
June 21, 2016 at 6:14 pm
spookymilk
Well, yeah, there’s a good chance there is. A quarter of people left are wolves, and a quarter of people voted for codefox. Simple math tells us there could easily be a wolf in there somewhere.
This doesn’t make codefox less of a wolf. If kg is a wolf, he would most definitely see the possibility of codefox being dead in the water and get out ahead of it.
June 21, 2016 at 6:11 pm
Inkarnit
Very possible. And if so, I think it’s KG.
June 21, 2016 at 6:10 pm
TDO
I’m not saying ALL are wolves, and never have said it makes me think ALL are wolves, but I bet at least one is.
June 21, 2016 at 6:12 pm
Inkarnit
Who am I voting for right now? Punman? Where’s he since all this went down?
June 21, 2016 at 6:18 pm
Inkarnit
I don’t want to remove my vote from punman. I want to hear from him after the Seer claim before I’m willing to move off him. At this point I’d be okay with a punman lynch or KG lynch. If codefox is lynched, I won’t fight it, but I’m not sure I see what spooky sees yet. It could be there though.
June 21, 2016 at 6:19 pm
ash10101
I definitely want to hear him talk.
June 21, 2016 at 6:21 pm
spookymilk
I hate his avoidance. His villager instincts have often been all over the place, but he still attempts to talk. How many posts has he made in the two days we’ve been playing?
June 21, 2016 at 6:22 pm
ash10101
im not sure. not many?
June 21, 2016 at 6:24 pm
spookymilk
I count just 14 today. Could be a wolf trying to figure out what the hell to do, or an overwhelmed villager hoping someone else figures it out. I’ve seen him kind of do both.
June 21, 2016 at 6:26 pm
Colin Prime
for the record I’ve once again confused punman and meat. meat is the one I’ve played with as a wolf, not punman. I have no read on punman but he has been very absent this game, with almost no contributions. is anyone reading his game right now? I’ll go do it, shouldn’t take long.
June 21, 2016 at 6:28 pm
Inkarnit
If it comes down to punman vs someone present, I’d rather lynch someone present who can claim first. BUT, I would want a claim from punman as soon as he shows back up. Whenever that may be.
June 21, 2016 at 6:28 pm
Inkarnit
It’s been 2 minutes, Colin. Aren’t you done yet?
June 21, 2016 at 7:11 pm
codefox
Spooky, my post count was pretty low today but I was heavily involved in about 7 hours worth of meetings (which sucks I might add!)
I’m not feeling overwhelmed by anything here but I just wasn’t able to focus today like I hoped.
Not done yet…
June 21, 2016 at 7:14 pm
Inkarnit
I think they were referring to punman, code. Your activity level has been fine.
June 21, 2016 at 6:40 pm
Colin Prime
yeah it only took that long because I kept getting caught up in the banter. Joe made one post of substance yesterday: https://spookymilk.wordpress.com/2016/06/20/werewolf-xxxvi-wolves-in-space-day-one/#comment-74822
which was his list post. I dunno. it feels more like a villager who is genuinely busy to me, and that the wolves are trying to frame him. I could also see a wolf who is trying to stay out of the limelight.
anyone else get a read on this list?
June 21, 2016 at 6:43 pm
Inkarnit
That’s the list that prevented me from voting him at the end of Day 1. I was seconds away from voting for him then got that list and decided the same thing. But since then, he’s done more of nothing. So I’m back to going towards the end of Day 2 thinking “It’s punman.” This time, my vote’s already there though.
June 21, 2016 at 6:43 pm
Colin Prime
you know what would be fun? killing Inkarnit! just saying.
June 21, 2016 at 6:44 pm
nettiebarron
I approve of this message.
June 21, 2016 at 7:48 pm
Colin Prime
yeah i don’t have a good read on him at all. and I’ve read his game pretty closely. I just like the idea of killing him. over and over.
and over
June 21, 2016 at 8:10 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
I’m all about killing Inkarnit. But this seems very random. At least I can says I’ve been years-long consistent in my decision that Inkarnit is a wolf. Yours is capricious…and WOLFY.
June 21, 2016 at 6:45 pm
ash10101
If he keeps messing up my pronouns, I approve
June 21, 2016 at 7:12 pm
Inkarnit
Let’s do i… wait. No, this is a horrible idea.
June 21, 2016 at 6:44 pm
Colin Prime
I’m going to check out for a bit.
June 21, 2016 at 6:47 pm
ash10101
Im going to go read all of your conversations and see if I think youre evil or not
June 21, 2016 at 6:55 pm
daneekasghost
I’m going to post a voting update.
June 21, 2016 at 6:56 pm
spookymilk
I’m going to read it
June 21, 2016 at 6:56 pm
daneekasghost
VOTING UPDATE
VOTING UPDATE
VOTING UPDATE
kg2005 -3- voting codefox
codefox -3- voting kg2005
Colin Prime -1-
joepunman -1-
inkarnit -1- voting joepunman
nettiebarron voting kg2005
spookymilk voting codefox
TDO voting kg2005
Royal Ape voting codefox
MelissaD voting Colin Prime
Dread Pirate voting inkarnit
ash10101
June 21, 2016 at 6:57 pm
daneekasghost
7 votes for majority. 123 minutes until NIGHT.
June 21, 2016 at 6:59 pm
spookymilk
Look at that. Both sitting at three for quite a while with no big piling. Are wolves hesitant to join in because these are both wolves and only one is left?
June 21, 2016 at 7:12 pm
codefox
Well, my vote is on kg. His is on me.
June 21, 2016 at 7:13 pm
Inkarnit
Makes sense. Have anything to say to change this up?
June 21, 2016 at 7:19 pm
codefox
I think my game yesterday was fairly consistent with how I normally play. I’ll admit to be more quiet today but it was a very busy day at work and a pretty busy evening right now packing up the house to move.
I threw my vote over on KG because I thought he was flying way to quiet in this game and not giving us enough. He switched his vote to me after I was already voting him and really is on board the “lynch codefox” movement (coming soon to major cities!)
He wants to be cleared by a seer peak tonight. I could ask for the same but personally I’d rather lynch him and use the seer on someone else like Royal Ape whose game I don’t really follow as well yet.
June 21, 2016 at 7:22 pm
Inkarnit
“I think my game yesterday was fairly consistent with how I normally play”
See, if you’re a villager, “how you normally play” is much less relevant, and probably not even in your thought process.
June 21, 2016 at 7:16 pm
spookymilk
This is probably the worst possible response to me asking if these are both wolves and if only one is left.
June 21, 2016 at 7:16 pm
ash10101
I….yeah, basically. Code if you are actually a villager you need to give us soemthing
June 21, 2016 at 7:17 pm
spookymilk
Yeah, it’s a REALLY weird response. Was this the perspective slip of the century? I might need to walk this off.
June 21, 2016 at 7:20 pm
Inkarnit
I think I have an explanation for this comment but I’m gonna let code explain it before I do so for him.
June 21, 2016 at 7:21 pm
codefox
My point was that what are the chances we’re both wolves? Both of us being wolves makes no sense, which was the possibility raised.
June 21, 2016 at 7:22 pm
spookymilk
It makes a decent amount of sense, if one is going for the long con, but the fact that you point out that it doesn’t make sense suggests that you aren’t playing it that way even if you’re a wolf.
June 21, 2016 at 7:22 pm
ash10101
Colin. Can we hear your opinion.
June 21, 2016 at 7:23 pm
Inkarnit
Yeah he didn’t explain it the way I would have argued it. My way was plausible. His way lacks perspective. Maybe you’re right on him spooky.
June 21, 2016 at 7:23 pm
spookymilk
Part of this game is not saying everything you think immediately, Ash. Patience.
June 21, 2016 at 7:26 pm
ash10101
This is valid, but I think we both know I’m not at all a patient person haha
June 21, 2016 at 7:27 pm
Inkarnit
Oh, was the Colin you were asking for an opinion from me?
June 21, 2016 at 7:27 pm
codefox
Well, I’m not going to change my statement just because it looked bad to the crowd. 8) I started it with kg…not that that really matters since we’re tied due to multiple other votes.
June 21, 2016 at 7:29 pm
Inkarnit
It does suck when you’re a wolf and accidentally lead the village to voting your partner.
June 21, 2016 at 7:29 pm
ash10101
Yea . Forgot the other was a person for some reason
June 21, 2016 at 7:46 pm
Colin Prime
my opinion is that codefox looks like he dug a hole for himself and is very feebly trying to control his answers.
June 21, 2016 at 7:12 pm
Inkarnit
Yeah I’m wondering that too. Ties can be fun.
June 21, 2016 at 7:04 pm
ash10101
Hmm. I might change this but for now vote pun I want him to say more
June 21, 2016 at 7:30 pm
spookymilk
vvv (or neutral)
Dread Pirate
MelissaDiamondPhillips
nettiebarron
vv
TDO
v
ash10101
Colin Prime
inkarnit
Royal Ape
n
kg2005
w
codefox
joepunman
——————
I’m feeling fewer wolves than I was yesterday. I did kick around Inkarnit as single-W just because I think he’d play the bussing game. I still don’t think we have enough on kg.
codefox’s answers haven’t been atrocious, but I’d still lean wolf, and probably enough to vote for him. pun has probably been worse, with just a couple of substantial posts period. I know some came off of him yesterday with the list post, but putting a token list in with a bunch of joke comments smacks of someone remembering that they can’t just remain neutral. Lists often overcompensate for a lack of other meaningful gameplay.
June 21, 2016 at 7:34 pm
codefox
Says the guy with a lot of lists! Personally I like lists…I use them every game at least once a day. They’re a good way to get your thoughts in order.
June 21, 2016 at 7:40 pm
spookymilk
…………..
Yes. Two lists from me, plus an absolute shit-ton of comments about the game besides, which is not at all what I was pointing out in relation to pun.
And yeah, the list thing was about pun, not you. Are you seeing that?
June 21, 2016 at 7:43 pm
codefox
So serious! But then why vote for me if you feel more strongly about pun? A seer look at kg or me probably resolves which of us is a wolf and which isn’t.
I don’t personally have pun high on my list, mind you. But that seems like a logical course of action to me at least. I may be biased.
June 21, 2016 at 7:45 pm
Colin Prime
worst response ever.
June 21, 2016 at 7:50 pm
codefox
I don’t think it was an unfair question to ask.
June 21, 2016 at 7:51 pm
Inkarnit
It wasn’t the question that was bad. That was fine by itself. It was your Seer comments. Tried to direct the Seer view and implies that catching one clears the other.
June 21, 2016 at 7:58 pm
Colin Prime
what he said.
June 21, 2016 at 7:45 pm
spookymilk
Because I don’t learn anything about you by voting for pun.
June 21, 2016 at 7:49 pm
codefox
Fair
June 21, 2016 at 7:44 pm
Colin Prime
yeah, thing is… Joe’s list was pretty lame. it was more of a “list for the sake of putting up a list” than it was an actual list.
list.
June 21, 2016 at 7:45 pm
ash10101
Yeah, i think Joe s list wasn’t horribly good honestly.
June 21, 2016 at 7:46 pm
ash10101
Is it just me or is code getting very, very defensive
June 21, 2016 at 7:49 pm
codefox
My life’s on the line here! I do need to defend myself! I’m still trying to give reasons not to vote me.
June 21, 2016 at 7:49 pm
Inkarnit
I think it’s just you.
June 21, 2016 at 7:53 pm
ash10101
I can’t tell if this is sarcasm or not
June 21, 2016 at 7:54 pm
Colin Prime
probably not.
June 21, 2016 at 8:00 pm
Inkarnit
Dick heh
June 21, 2016 at 8:06 pm
ash10101
I…um…I still am confused on if this is sarcasm or not
June 21, 2016 at 8:28 pm
Inkarnit
This isn’t not sarcastic in the least most almost kinda way.
June 21, 2016 at 7:50 pm
Colin Prime
well, he’s got a lot of attention right now. it doesn’t concern me that he’s getting attention. It concerns me that his responses seem forced and over thought.
June 21, 2016 at 7:57 pm
Colin Prime
K I think I’m in with the codefox crowd at this point. his responses to the heat he’s getting are digging a deeper hole for him, in my eyes (stop digging holes in my eyes jerk).
June 21, 2016 at 8:02 pm
Colin Prime
vote codefox
joe’s continued absence and lack of vote are troubling, given the time.
Inkarnit is just loving all of this and that makes me double nervous.
Royal Ape seems to have disappeared again?
KG i’m pretty sure you’re reading this right now, you handsome devil.
June 21, 2016 at 8:13 pm
kg2005
I am reading this right now!
June 21, 2016 at 8:13 pm
kg2005
Phones are hard.
June 21, 2016 at 8:05 pm
The Dread Pirate
Off-topic, but WONDO?! Why, Jurgen, why?!!!!!
June 21, 2016 at 8:15 pm
TDO
Need any outfielders?
June 21, 2016 at 8:17 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
Is this Swedish?
June 21, 2016 at 8:19 pm
joepunman
Sorry guys, I’m swamped tonight and can only post this. I’m not a special role, so no worries there.
June 21, 2016 at 8:23 pm
spookymilk
Who’s lurking? We need as many villagers here as possible.
June 21, 2016 at 8:24 pm
ash10101
Me, though I’m not really coherent
June 21, 2016 at 8:24 pm
todahshy
*****DEAD****
I’m here!
******DEAD****
June 21, 2016 at 8:27 pm
Inkarnit
I’m here eating dinner. Not sure how I feel about Joe’s solid defense.
June 21, 2016 at 8:25 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
I’m around. But I’m really paranoid right now, so I’m just hiding.
June 21, 2016 at 8:30 pm
Colin Prime
Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not after you.
Have you tried cocaine? I hear that does wonders for the jitters.
June 21, 2016 at 8:33 pm
spookymilk
If you’re paranoid it DOES mean that they’re not really after you.
June 21, 2016 at 8:34 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
Me or Colin? The insulting one liners are getting convoluted.
June 21, 2016 at 8:36 pm
Inkarnit
Your logic is convoluted.
June 21, 2016 at 8:37 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
Your mom is convoluted.
June 21, 2016 at 8:36 pm
spookymilk
Neither. Just talking about definitions. For it to be paranoia, it has to be wrong.
June 21, 2016 at 8:38 pm
Colin Prime
MDP FTW
June 21, 2016 at 8:26 pm
TDO
I’m here but not feeling a codefox vote.
June 21, 2016 at 8:28 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
Not feeling it, either, but I’m not an amazing hunter. He did back himself into a weird corner, but he was also being extremely aggressively hounded. I’m not sure anybody could sound calm in that circumstance.
June 21, 2016 at 8:32 pm
spookymilk
He was bad before that. I think this is right, but I won’t shy away from being extravagantly wrong if that’s the case and will know how I got here.
I’ll say this: if codefox gets lynched and he flips village, if there’s any chance Annette survives tonight, she should peek at me so people don’t tinfoil on me.
June 21, 2016 at 8:33 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
You’re the third person to suggest they be peeked to exonerate themselves. This is ridiculous.
June 21, 2016 at 8:34 pm
Inkarnit
I want to be peeked too!
June 21, 2016 at 8:34 pm
Inkarnit
Seriously though, don’t peek me Annette. There’s better options.
June 21, 2016 at 8:35 pm
spookymilk
I know, but tell me I won’t be the focus if codefox flips good, whether i should be or not.
June 21, 2016 at 8:39 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
I think this new terminology is weird. If he flips good, you’re right. You’ll look terrible. In many respects, this argument makes you far the more villagery. Why put yourself so out in the open with an extremely aggressive guess only to KNOW it’ll flip on you? The only way that could work is if you’re sacrificing a wolf friend on purpose, and that’s a ridiculous possibility.
June 21, 2016 at 8:40 pm
spookymilk
Inkarnit, who’s your first peek option?
June 21, 2016 at 8:41 pm
Inkarnit
Tinfoil theory will say spooky is playing a super crazy wolf game where he buses one partner hard on D1 then so obviously leads the charge against a villager on D2 that he couldn’t possibly be a wolf.
June 21, 2016 at 8:42 pm
Inkarnit
I think KG. I think we lynch code or pun and call KG’s bluff and actually peek him.
June 21, 2016 at 8:41 pm
Colin Prime
Why?
June 21, 2016 at 8:29 pm
spookymilk
Who else? Annette? It would be nice to talk about potential peeks. Codefox? What does it mean that he’s stopped fighting?
June 21, 2016 at 8:30 pm
nettiebarron
Here.
June 21, 2016 at 8:31 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
He probably gave up. He’s relatively new, and you guys can come off strong, mean, and terrifying in a game, especially when hyperfocused. He may be crying in a corner, which one might do as a wolf OR a villager in these circumstances.
I mean…not to say I understand why this would happen or have my own personal experience with it. not saying that at all…
June 21, 2016 at 8:33 pm
Inkarnit
You almost make this too easy…
I’ll refrain.
June 21, 2016 at 8:34 pm
spookymilk
He was a useful villager in the last game. If he is a villager now he should be here and active. I don’t think codefox from the last game shies away from this.
June 21, 2016 at 8:36 pm
codefox
If I don’t pack this house, I’m in trouble…I’m really hating that I can’t be as involved right now
June 21, 2016 at 8:37 pm
The Dread Pirate
I can confirm that codefox is moving to NOLA from Tampa in about 2 weeks. Not that it means he’s packing or anything tonight, but it’s something that is happening in his life.
June 21, 2016 at 8:42 pm
codefox
To clarify…I don’t want anyone to think I’m shying away from posting tonight because I feel overwhelmed or can’t figure out what to do…I glance at the screen when I get a chance but I haven’t had the time this evening to do much. I actually cancelled a business trip to pack…I’m definitely packing! But we just finished.
June 21, 2016 at 8:44 pm
spookymilk
I can dig that codefox is doing real life shiznit, but I would expect a villager to use his one post to say something beyond wishing he could be involved.
June 21, 2016 at 8:46 pm
codefox
No, I’m actually back…that was the first in a series of posts!
June 21, 2016 at 8:46 pm
codefox
Oh, I never give up. I love playing games and I only have fun when I’m winning.
Also, I’ve driven too many players away from the table as a DM in tears to be susceptible to that myself.
June 21, 2016 at 8:34 pm
daneekasghost
25 MINUTES
.
.
codefox -4- voting kg2005
kg2005 -3- voting codefox
joepunman -2-
Colin Prime -1- voting codefox
inkarnit -1- voting joepunman
nettiebarron voting kg2005
spookymilk voting codefox
TDO voting kg2005
Royal Ape voting codefox
MelissaD voting Colin Prime
Dread Pirate voting inkarnit
ash10101 voting joepunman
June 21, 2016 at 8:38 pm
The Dread Pirate
Messi isn’t even human. That goal was beyond sublime.
June 21, 2016 at 8:39 pm
Colin Prime
You’re so topical…
June 21, 2016 at 8:39 pm
The Dread Pirate
Set up by a Wondo giveaway, btw
June 21, 2016 at 8:42 pm
kg2005
I’m here, though I can’t figure out how to make a new post.
June 21, 2016 at 8:43 pm
Colin Prime
Top of the page on your phone
June 21, 2016 at 8:44 pm
kg2005
Ah. That’s a long scroll.
June 21, 2016 at 8:46 pm
Colin Prime
That’s my M’Lady said
June 21, 2016 at 8:48 pm
Colin Prime
Dammit. That’s what M’Lady said
June 21, 2016 at 8:39 pm
Inkarnit
I’m not sure what it means that the top 3 LL’s are not defending themselves.
June 21, 2016 at 8:41 pm
ash10101
Yeah. Pun appearing just to say he wasn’t special felt weird to me
June 21, 2016 at 8:45 pm
Inkarnit
Good point actually. If he’s actually vanillager as he implies and really can’t be around, why not just stay away altogether? Why come in just to confirm he’s vanilla? He’s only in 3rd place too.
June 21, 2016 at 8:46 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
Yeah, that WAS a weird way to say things. It’s an overly unclear way to declare himself a vanillager, but if he’s a wolf…he’s kinda saying there’s a “special” wolf. And that he’s not that special wolf. Maybe he’s a wolf trying to push us to someone who’d be more important for us to take out? Like the supposed seer wolf? That’d be a bizarre move to make, too, though, as then the wolves are down an important player.
So maybe he’s just trying to say “don’t pick me” without outright lying by saying, “I’m not a wolf, guys!”
Am I wearing Inkarnit’s tinfoil hat now?
June 21, 2016 at 8:48 pm
Inkarnit
Speaking of convoluted… Your last idea makes more sense than the first.
June 21, 2016 at 8:48 pm
spookymilk
I don’t think so. Pun has been at best a useless villager. And maybe not that.
June 21, 2016 at 8:41 pm
TDO
So would anyone voting codefox be willing to flip to KG? This gives code a day to discuss today (that does seem he’s being piled on)
June 21, 2016 at 8:44 pm
codefox
I of course support this message 😉 I’m actually not sure what I did to draw the wolf vote on me. I was very hard early on on Viola and before anyone else went down that route, I cast the tie-breaking vote to put her in the lead.
There was still discussion at that point whether or not to vote her or, if I recall, nettie. But I felt good enough about that vote to go with it since we don’t want any mistakes in the village.
June 21, 2016 at 8:45 pm
spookymilk
You call “pile” on every leading vote-gutter, man…
June 21, 2016 at 8:45 pm
Colin Prime
I could live with this.
June 21, 2016 at 8:43 pm
nettiebarron
KG. Speak. I know you’re lurking about. If Colin calls you sexy again, will you show up?
June 21, 2016 at 8:43 pm
kg2005
Woof.
June 21, 2016 at 8:44 pm
nettiebarron
Nice.
June 21, 2016 at 8:44 pm
TDO
Seriously, why are we not voting this guy out?
June 21, 2016 at 8:47 pm
spookymilk
I’d do pun over kg.
June 21, 2016 at 8:48 pm
kg2005
I’m on my phone, jerk. Tomorrow I’m going to put together a highlight reel of all the times you wanted to vote me out. It will be long and ridiculous.
June 21, 2016 at 8:51 pm
TDO
So that would be just this game because if it was every game it would be obscenely long and extra ridiculous right?
June 21, 2016 at 8:48 pm
codefox
I think someone knows what the seer would actually see tonight.
June 21, 2016 at 8:44 pm
Colin Prime
FTR I never called him sexy. Did I?
Nawwwwwww.
He’s just kinda handsome.
June 21, 2016 at 8:47 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
Fine.
Unvote Colin Prime
Vote KG
Because if it barks like a wolf…
June 21, 2016 at 8:49 pm
Colin Prime
unvote codefox vote punman
June 21, 2016 at 8:49 pm
The Dread Pirate
unvote inkarnit, vote joepunman
June 21, 2016 at 8:51 pm
spookymilk
Do you have a stake in this? Can you say?
June 21, 2016 at 8:52 pm
The Dread Pirate
It doesn’t matter to me whether wolf or villager goes. I thought I would be helpful, but now I’m waiting to see if people actually want me to be.
June 21, 2016 at 8:53 pm
Inkarnit
I’m for you helping to vote punman.
June 21, 2016 at 8:56 pm
Colin Prime
oh DP, we love you. come back to us.
June 21, 2016 at 8:51 pm
codefox
BTW, I’m still insulted that Melissa thinks I gave up. I’m made of much sterner stuff than that. Now excuse me while I go cry in the corner.
June 21, 2016 at 8:55 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
I was simply offering up a possibility…one that has happened to multiple people in the course of Werewolf.
June 21, 2016 at 8:56 pm
Inkarnit
I liked this response. Almost makes me want to keep you another day just for the comedy.
June 21, 2016 at 8:51 pm
The Dread Pirate
Actually, unvote joepunman. I’ll let you guys sort it out for now.
June 21, 2016 at 8:51 pm
Inkarnit
Also Angel, if you’re out there, don’t get creative. Protect the Seer.
June 21, 2016 at 8:52 pm
kg2005
Agreed.
June 21, 2016 at 8:53 pm
Colin Prime
asskissser
June 21, 2016 at 8:54 pm
ash10101
I very much agree here. We need her
June 21, 2016 at 8:52 pm
ash10101
Hm. Between the three who seem to be at risk, I feel like a pun vote is most likely to get a wolf, with code as a close second. But I’m still really wary on kg. I just can’t read him
June 21, 2016 at 8:53 pm
Colin Prime
update?
June 21, 2016 at 8:54 pm
daneekasghost
6 minutes
.
.
kg2005 -4- voting codefox
joepunman -3-
codefox -3- voting kg2005
Colin Prime voting joepunman
inkarnit voting joepunman
nettiebarron voting kg2005
spookymilk voting codefox
TDO voting kg2005
Royal Ape voting codefox
MelissaD voting kg2005
Dread Pirate
ash10101 voting joepunman
June 21, 2016 at 8:54 pm
ash10101
Wait. Pun isn’t voting?? That’s WEIRD
June 21, 2016 at 8:55 pm
Inkarnit
Yeah. He’s trying not to lead us to another wolf.
June 21, 2016 at 8:56 pm
ash10101
But wouldn’t he want to try and vote soemone in a way to protect whoever else are the wolves?
June 21, 2016 at 8:57 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
There are many people he could vote for without it leading to a wolf.
June 21, 2016 at 8:59 pm
Inkarnit
Then it leads to a clear? It’s extra info for us.
June 21, 2016 at 8:56 pm
codefox
I would like to at least point out that much of today I’ve played defensive. I’ve been fairly high on several lists for the past 2 days. If my game has looked different then that certainly is part of it. I have mostly been playing where I’m a trusted villager and that has not been the case, and especially today.
I’ve had to adjust for that. I do feel like I’ve made some solid arguments. Obviously people aren’t sure between me and kg and pun (not that all of us couldn’t be wolves, but the chances of that are really slim!).
kg and joe have been less active than me, so I suppose the question is…who do you want in the village more tomorrow? Someone who will continue to talk or someone who might be rather quiet?
June 21, 2016 at 8:58 pm
kg2005
Eh, I heat up as the game goes on. If I’m here tomorrow I’ll be playing.
June 21, 2016 at 8:58 pm
Colin Prime
this right here is why i switched. you’re at least participating and can be read. Punman is totally absent.
June 21, 2016 at 8:59 pm
MelissaDiamondPhillips
Well, that depends…will the talker potentially lead us away from the wolves because he himself is a wolf? Will the villager help in ZERO ways because they’re not around? Both those are unhelpful.
June 21, 2016 at 8:56 pm
spookymilk
Ick. The flip to pun could just as easily be a late misdirect as it is a wolf. But pun has really been wolfy in a small sample.
June 21, 2016 at 8:57 pm
ash10101
I’ve had my vote on pun for a while, he’s had some weird comments and I also think that if he somehow isn’t a wolf we may still learn from his dying. The one comment st the end with no vote kind of sealed it for me
June 21, 2016 at 8:59 pm
Colin Prime
if it’s a misdirect, it’s lead by you IMO. I switched to pun instead of KG based on your comment. which to me says he’s prolly a wolf.
June 21, 2016 at 9:00 pm
ash10101
Wait, me? Or spooky?
June 21, 2016 at 8:56 pm
kg2005
Well, gotta protect myself.
unvote codefox vote pun man
June 21, 2016 at 8:58 pm
ash10101
Well, we now have a tie. Hey, will, you might want to vote haha
June 21, 2016 at 8:59 pm
spookymilk
unvote codefox, vote joepunman
So ready to punch myself in the balls if this is wrong. Codefox’s last post was just barely good enough. Shit shit SHIT
June 21, 2016 at 8:59 pm
ash10101
Now you really seem like you’re drinking haha
June 21, 2016 at 8:59 pm
codefox
unvote kg
vote pun
I’ll break the tie and I’ll face off kg tomorrow!
June 21, 2016 at 8:59 pm
ash10101
Has ape vanished on us?
June 21, 2016 at 8:59 pm
The Dread Pirate
vote KG
June 21, 2016 at 9:00 pm
Inkarnit
Grr
June 21, 2016 at 9:00 pm
TDO
Im not surprised by Spooky’s flip, expected it actually.
Ape’s 2nd night of vanishing is drawing my attention.
June 21, 2016 at 9:01 pm
ash10101
Ape needs to stop vanishing for sure
June 21, 2016 at 9:00 pm
daneekasghost
IT IS NIGHT.
June 21, 2016 at 9:00 pm
The Dread Pirate
Let’s get a KG/punman tie here to talk things through.
June 21, 2016 at 9:00 pm
kg2005
Peek me!
June 21, 2016 at 9:01 pm
TDO
Code you seemingly could be the vote to kill KG or Pun. I’m interested to see how you play this now that DP voted.
June 21, 2016 at 9:02 pm
daneekasghost
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joepunman -6-
kg2005 -4- voting joepunman
codefox -1- voting joepunman
Colin Prime voting joepunman
inkarnit voting joepunman
nettiebarron voting kg2005
spookymilk voting joepunman
TDO voting kg2005
Royal Ape voting codefox
MelissaD voting kg2005
Dread Pirate voting kg2005
ash10101 voting joepunman
June 21, 2016 at 9:05 pm
daneekasghost
The townspeople all celebrated the death of violabeenice. Inkarnit tended bar for an increasingly worked up spookymilk, breaking bottles, crushing cans, knocking drinks off the bar, and never actually managing to get a full drink into spooky’s hands. “Just give me the damn opener already.” spooky demanded.
But spooky fared no better. He grunted as he put all his force on the opener, and when the bottle cap popped off, it fired across the room at near lethal speed (you see, gravity is different than momentum and inertia, so the fact that the spaceship doesn’t have gravity (except when I forget about it and need it for a humerus (get it? funnybone joke?) purpose) doesn’t come into play here). Everyone watched in horror as time slowed down due to the near light speeds that the spacecraft suddenly reached for narrative drama purposes.
Slowly the cap rotated as it flew across the deck, the Bud Light with Lime logo flashing in and out of view until it struck joepunman right above the temple and dropped him to the floor verrrry slooowly, dead.
He just laid there. Doing nothing. It seemed appropriate somehow.
violabeenice (wolf, shoved out an airlock, day 1)
todahshy (funny bone attack, night 1)
joepunman (villager, spooky’s terrible taste in beer, day 2)
June 21, 2016 at 9:06 pm
daneekasghost
Anyone with night actions may send them in now. If that’s not you, see you tomorrow at 8:30 AM.