HALL OF CHAMPIONS
SPOOKYMILK SURVIVOR
I: Rachel “The Double-Dealer” Flynn
II: Ryan “The Snake” Fossum
III: Patrick “The Gentleman” Kozicky
IV: Brienne “The Submitter” Maner
V: Rusty “The Porn Star” Greene
VI: Brooks “The Unlikely Hero” Maki
VII: William “The Soulful” Schuth
VIII: Brooks “The Survivor” Maki
IX: Zack “The Ice Cream Man” Sauvageau
X: Pete “The Vacuum Cleaner” Bruzek
Turbo: Brooks “The 1956-1979 Montreal Canadiens” Maki
XI: Matt “The Cold-Hearted Motherf*&^er” Novak
All-Stars (XII): Andy “The Quiet Man” Rustleund
XIII: Sarah “Clarence’s Hope” Bizek
XIV: Dan “The Professional” Kautz
XV: Christina “Assault And” Pepper
XVI: Matt “The First-Time Player” Novak
XVII: Stacy “Saintly Patience” Snell
XVIII: Brian “Checkmate” David
XIX: Annette “Eammon for the Top” Barron
XX: Daniel “Neville “Smash “Hardware” Hardwood” Longbottom” Caouette
XXI: Pete “The Comeback Kid” Bruzek
XXII: Dan “The Even More Professional” Kautz
XXIII: Melissa “Don’t You (Forget About Me)” David
XXIV: Stacy “Fucking” Snell
GODS AND MORTALS
I: Dragging Rivet’s Name Through the Mud One Last Time: Matt Novak (Ultragrandpa) and Michael Rivet (Friph Flipher-Fiph)
II: Bahambo Number 5: Pete “Triple Crown” Bruzek and Michelle “Single Tiara…So Far” Pratt
BIG BROTHER
I: Brooks “Oh, for the Love of God” Maki
II: Michael “#DDB” Rivet
III: Pete “Fortune’s Fool” Bruzek
IV: Erin “All Seven and We’ll Watch Them Fall” Leslie
V: Jake “Littlefinger” Elliott
FALL, CAESAR
2014: Brooks “The Creator” Maki
2015: Matt “The Artist” Novak
2016: Matt “Waited Them Out” Novak
2017: Annette “I Would’ve Voted for You” Barron
THE ROYAL RUMBLE
2013: #21 Greg “The Gallant Glutton of Greatness” Johnson
2014: #29 Jonathon “Big Papa” Pope
2015: #8 Christina “Am I in This?” Pepper
2016: #22 Annette “No Backs Stabbed” Barron
2017: #30 Bernice “The Vulture” Nicaise
2018: #17 Carrie “Solid Gold” Bard
2019: #16 Jake “The Jabroni” Elliott
PLAY WITH THE PROSE
(Writing, non-elimination)
I: Sarah “Centipede Face” Johnson
II: Sarah “The Johnson Eliminator” Wreisner
III: Colin “Lonely Old Moon” Woolston
IV: Melissa “Not Sidebar Material” Diamond
V: Sama “No Family Reunions” Smith
VI: Sarah “Tumor Face” Wreisner
VII: John “Cult Following” Wreisner
VIII: Joshua “Peed the Bed” Longman
VIII: Annette “Oh, Right, That’s Who Won” Barron
WEREWOLF (most recent)
Werewolf Stats Spreadsheet
PUZZLE CHALLENGE
I (Pure): Matthew “The Obsessor” Gilman
I (Power): Kelly “The Novak-Destroyer” Wells
DIPLOMACY
I: Matt “Exploiter of Worlds” Novak (France)
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September 1, 2018 at 10:54 am
Colin Prime
not really surprised no one is here yet. This is a bummer of a game. I’m kind of glad the week has kept me busy or I’d be freaking out over this.
Regardless DP left us with a good amount to go over and explore, and at this point voting patterns over the days will have a ton of info.
I’m not super optimistic but if we take it slow and use the time we have to think it through we could pull this off.
I’ll have way more time tomorrow than today, and have the tools I need to go over the days.
For now , I’ll be out of pocket until this afternoon.
September 1, 2018 at 12:03 pm
beezypoof
yeah, this friggin’ sucks, y’all. i felt so damn sure about Nettie yesterday.
and now…i just think, man, todah? he was a big Nettie pusher yesterday, but so was DP, who was a villager. and so was i, and i’m also a villager.
now i’m concerned about Ash, too, and Pope. and still Novak. ugh. and Colin. So…all of you, i guess. frick.
September 1, 2018 at 12:05 pm
beezypoof
though, Colin, if you are a villager, your presence may have left this a less frustrating game, cuz we’d have more/better analysis from you. and i need help from experienced and successful players.
September 1, 2018 at 1:30 pm
Colin Prime
I’d love to be able to be around more, but the house and job take priority so… I’ll take the heat though. As frustrating as it’s been I get that I could be more helpful if I had the time. I mostly got rankled by Novak harping on that point over and over which is why I keep seeing wolf in him.
September 1, 2018 at 5:48 pm
beezypoof
Oh, i didn’t mean that you aren’t legitimately busy, or that this should at all be a priority. I was just responding to what you’d said about it being so frustrating that you’re glad you’ve been busy. ZERO criticism from me.
September 1, 2018 at 11:04 am
ash10101
This might be the least active werewolf game ever. I’m gonna go back and read yesterday
September 1, 2018 at 12:06 pm
beezypoof
i’m eventually gonna have to go back and read it all again. continue my spreadsheets, perhaps, though i want NOTHING to do with that. i just…damn. i want this to be over. i’ve never played werewolf where it’s lasted this many days. but probably cuz i’ve never played with this many players before.
September 1, 2018 at 12:18 pm
BigPapaJonTheElf
Ugh. When Annette turned out to be clean, my next target Was Dread Pirate for leading us down that path. Since it turns out he’s clean, it’s back to the drawing board. I’ll be reading through later this afternoon/evening, hopefully with a beer in hand. DP dropped a lot of analysis yesterday, there should be some useful nuggets in it.
September 1, 2018 at 12:30 pm
beezypoof
me too, about Annette. which is the same that makes me think todah is wolf, on account of he was pushing her, too. and hard. but…we’ve found that that’s been a thing we keep leaning on when making kills, and we haven’t yet been right. i think it’s gotta be Novak or Colin. like…one or the other. though i’m hard pressed to tell anyone why i think that. maybe cuz Novak’s been on him this game. but…man. although…i almost just want us to be wrong so this game can end.
September 1, 2018 at 12:24 pm
beezypoof
there’s so little to go on!
September 1, 2018 at 12:49 pm
ash10101
Yeah this is getting hard. I feel like we’ve killed off everyone who provided us wth like, actual information
September 1, 2018 at 12:52 pm
ash10101
That or the wolves have eaten them. I need to go look at the earlier days again.
September 1, 2018 at 2:07 pm
mbnovak
Super fast check in… My availability is crap. Colin and Todah are my top two. I have pushed both (as opposed to first war hammer, and then what ended up being Nettie yesterday) and neither has gotten traction. That’s weird. Let’s get pressure there.
vote Colin prime
September 1, 2018 at 5:49 pm
beezypoof
Todah got traction. It was him or Nettie yesterday.
September 1, 2018 at 6:53 pm
mbnovak
Ok. I was just reading up, not a live participant, so I don’t have the same feel for it.
There was also a comment from Todah about how he didn’t like the “sudden” pressure I put on him, despite the fact that it wasn’t really sudden, since I’d talked about him a little bit and it had been growing for a while. That one stuck out to me, like he was trying to make me a target more than he was defending himself.
September 1, 2018 at 5:55 pm
beezypoof
I say we vote Novak or Colin. Which way should we go, if you had to choose one or the other.
Btw, Novak is 83% clean from Melissa’s peek, for those who are persuaded by that.
September 1, 2018 at 6:32 pm
Colin Prime
75% to be true. Which are ok odds in a vacuum, but given that Mind Eraser shows as villager the actual odds of him being a villager at this point seem a lot lower.
Regardless, it’s enough to give pause.
I have a different way I’d rather vote but I don’t have my case together yet. We only have one shot so I’d like to think it through.
September 1, 2018 at 6:56 pm
mbnovak
For whatever it’s worth, I should appear clean for other reasons too. First, my play helped out DG and find us our first wolf. Second, each day since then I’ve proposed a target that hasn’t gotten traction, and we’ve lunged at villagers instead. Indeed, that next day I didn’t even want to vote for Warhammer and only changed my vote to him out of self-preservation. That is to say, you know I haven’t been in on the villager votes. It’s not proof of villagerness, on its own, but obviously when coupled with the peek, that’s about as strong as it gets.
September 1, 2018 at 9:16 pm
Colin Prime
I have considered this, and I stuck on you yesterday because I hadn’t spent any time thinking.
My hang up is that you’re not coming in with anything new, and your rush to put a vote down when we have two whole days to think about it is very wolfy.
If you’re a villager and are going to hunt, would you look at beezy’s game? I’m going to go over the voting patterns tonight to see if anything stands out.
Beezy coming in today with all the throwing her hands in the air and shrugs all around and let’s get this over with attitude is super, extra duper wolfy to me. I know she hasn’t been very available but there’s enough interaction to find something to clear her if there is anything.
September 1, 2018 at 10:33 pm
beezypoof
i’m throwing my hands in the air because i’ve been wrong over and over, which makes me feel shitty, and because this thing is literally affect my life negatively. i’m so brain exhausted and eye exhausted from all this time on the screen, and we’re failing so heavily. it’s too hard for me anymore. i just want it to be done.
i think your “other way of voting” means you want to vote for me. if you do, the game will be over, which is what i want. so if that’s the way people want to go, i’ll gladly vote with you. without hesitation.
September 1, 2018 at 10:39 pm
beezypoof
also, i’ve been available. i wasn’t here day 1. but since then, i have been here. i am here, and i’ve been here.
September 1, 2018 at 6:58 pm
mbnovak
One thing that bothers me a little is that Pope was left alive instead of DPWY yesterday, since Pope was the extra-time kill of DG. That said, I still see him as a less-likely candidate than Todah or Colin, for that same reason.
Todah’s being wrong on Melissa (and his occasional defenses of Colin as surly Colin) bother me, but that’s still not as strong as my straight-read of Colin being a wolf, which is why I’m there.
September 1, 2018 at 9:43 pm
Colin Prime
Hold on, your straight read of me? The only thing you have brought up is that I’ve not been around much, which has been explained over and over again.
The vote on DG should be more than enough to clear me. If I were a wolf there’s no way I’d bus DG that late in the day when Melissa already had enough votes on her. My vote on DG was the second to last, which put us into overtime. No way in hell do I do that as I wolf. It would be the dumbest wolf play ever.
It’s absolutely ludicrous that you’re ignoring this fact. No way does villager Novak ignore that.
It’s equally ludicrous that you keep calling yourself confirmed villager because you got peeked. Everyone in the game knows Mind Eraser shows up villager to the seer, and the percentages are absolutely meaningless. Your play on day 1 was super wolfy. Your entrances each day have been super wolfy. Your rush to put a vote down today was super wolfy. Your insistence on voting me over and over while throwing little suspicions around with nothing to back them up is ultra wolfy.
And yet somehow the fact that I’ve been busy is enough for you to rush in today with a vote on me.
Look, I really want to take my time and think this through, but your making it really hard with this nonsense.
September 1, 2018 at 10:37 pm
beezypoof
i hadn’t thought about this, Colin. the way the DG vote went, and how that says villager about you. and, yes, it is surprising that Novak didn’t notice that, if he’s a villager. i’ve said i suspect Novak since day 2 (and prolly only cuz i wasn’t around day 1). i’m open to this vote.
September 1, 2018 at 10:39 pm
Colin Prime
That’s great but I’m not thinking about voting yet. I’ve been on Novak all game after I saw his day 1 and his entrance on day 2, but I don’t want that to get in the way of analysis. There’s only one chance left.
September 1, 2018 at 10:40 pm
beezypoof
all i’m saying is i agree on this. i didn’t go vote him, i’m just saying it helps me to lean away from you. i feel like one of you is a wolf, and now i feel far more like it’s him. that’s all. relax, sunshine.
September 1, 2018 at 10:04 pm
BigPapaJonTheElf
They killed DPWY because they see him as a greater threat than me. I’d be insulted, but here’s the thing: he was a greater threat than me.
September 1, 2018 at 10:37 pm
Colin Prime
You can throw some solid analysis out, why not?
September 1, 2018 at 10:45 pm
beezypoof
he really hasn’t been, though.
September 1, 2018 at 10:44 pm
BigPapaJonTheElf
There’s a solid case to be made that Novak is Mind Eraser. But every time I try, I see something that would be dumb to do if he was a wolf. Like flipping on his opinion on drinks on day 2. Someone tell me why Novak-as-wolf would do that? Why would he even offer an opinion on drinks at all if he were a wolf?
September 1, 2018 at 10:49 pm
beezypoof
isn’t that part of the theory that the wolves planned that a bit to try to out the seer? they’d already killed the Angel (how did they know who the Angel was, anyway?), and then, if they got the seer, we’d have no one left to offer us extra information from overnight peeks. this is actually possible.
September 1, 2018 at 11:14 pm
BigPapaJonTheElf
They got lucky on the Angel. I haven’t seen anything that makes me doubt that. Inkarnit is just a bullet catcher.
OK, but if Novak is a wolf, I wouldn’t doubt that his whole song and dance about having been served two drinks was part of a plan that the wolves cooked up, but the part earlier where he says that we should all refuse drinks makes no sense to me in that scenario.
OK, so pretend Novak is Mind Eraser. The wolves might have worked out in advance what time they were serving drinks, or decided amongst themselves that they weren’t going to serve any drinks. Since the Angel is dead, they know that if any of them are served a drink, it’s the Seer. And when it’s Novak-as-Mind Eraser who receives it, it’s the best case scenario. Novak knows that the Seer has served him a drink, and he know as extra cover he can claim to have been served a second drink. A second drink would have to have been a wolf serving it. Novak knows the Seer will clear him, and he can claim that a wolf wouldn’t waste a drink on another wolf! It’s neat and tidy and now that we’re down to 6 I really like it as an explanation. Except… WTF was that thing about not accepting drinks earlier? Was it just to muddy the water?
Even more inexplicably than that, WHY DID MELISSA SERVE A DRINK TO NOVAK AFTER HE SAID WE SHOULDN’T ACCEPT DRINKS? I know there was a weird time delay with notifications, but it still seems like she sent it after. I dunno, maybe she got it in just before, or maybe she hadn’t read that far when she realized she needed to send a drink, or maybe she was testing him for some reason.
September 1, 2018 at 11:21 pm
BigPapaJonTheElf
Speaking of which, that was my problem with this as a conspiracy theory to begin with. It seems to start with the theory that they are hoping to draw out the seer, but Novak’s first statement should have had the opposite effect.
September 1, 2018 at 11:28 pm
mbnovak
If I’m not mistaken, Melissa did say she hadn’t read that far yet, and since she missed serving a drink on day 1, she wanted to make sure she got it in.
I’d also add that none of us had any idea that Melissa had missed her day 1 drink. If that crazy wolf plan had been in place I would have first been encouraging her not to send a drink (like you point out), and then subsequently encouraging her to come out not just with herself as clean but with a second clean villager too (because at most one of us could have been the mind eraser…), and then sacrificing DG in the process? That’s just too complex, and with far too little upside.
September 1, 2018 at 10:55 pm
BigPapaJonTheElf
Yesterday, Todah’s top three wolf list was Ash, Colin, and Nettie. Two of those three were on my Probably A Villager list, and the third (Nettie) I had started to believe was a villager. Todah goes hard at Novak, then removes him from his list entirely.
September 1, 2018 at 11:21 pm
mbnovak
I think Todah is a very likely option too. I’d also point out that he’s done some defense of Colin Prime (“this seems like surly villager Colin”, etc.) that would make the two of them make sense together.
September 1, 2018 at 11:20 pm
mbnovak
Alright, I’m gonna drop this here re: Colin.
First, he keeps deflecting my points as mere absence. But my point has never been simply that he isn’t around. My point has always been that his game itself is different. That his posts lack the specificity he usually has as a villager. That there are fewer quick short posts and comments too. That is a stylistic different that I’m pointing out, not just a “lack of posts” difference. He keeps saying I’m just talking about availability, but this is so much more than that.
Second, he’s arguing that if I were a villager I would probably notice certain things, for example, the ultimate bussing of DG. But I haven’t indicated that I’m ignoring it. Indeed, earlier in the game I specifically said I thought both Colin Prime and DPWY would bus DG in that situation. So I did address it. But, just to remind everyone, I think Colin Prime would bus DG there. His vote for DG wasn’t the final nail in the coffin. At 8:57 Warhammer flipped to Melissa, making it 6-4, Melissa. At 8:58 Colin went to DG. At 8:59 meat went to DG. That tied it up. Wolf Colin throws that vote at DG at that point because it might be safe, and if it isn’t, he’s got the credibility now. And, here’s the really big point… Colin wasn’t busing DG at all. It was merely a vote. At 7:34 he puts up a post wherein he focuses more on me and Melissa than he does DG. That’s not bussing, that’s deflecting for the wolf.
(see here: https://spookymilk.wordpress.com/2018/08/29/werewolf-speakeasy-iii-day-two/#comment-88340)
And at 8:54 he’s still deciding between the two (https://spookymilk.wordpress.com/2018/08/29/werewolf-speakeasy-iii-day-two/#comment-88427). So again, not really throwing DG under the bus. All-in-all, he threw out a vote, nothing more.
Anyway, I’m as confident now as I was before that Colin is a wolf. Even his argument against it isn’t the great stuff he’s been doing for the village, or how he’s been hunting, it’s that I seem wolfy in accusing him. That’s wolf material, straight up.
Yeah. I feel good about this.
Also, if I were wrong, don’t you think at least one other wolf would have put down a vote here too, to encourage things along?
September 1, 2018 at 11:26 pm
BigPapaJonTheElf
On the other hand, I’m very sympathetic to his claims of being too busy to really participate due to unforeseen circumstances. Plus – phones, man. I hate playing on my phone, to the point that I won’t do it. Phone werewolf is bullshit.
September 1, 2018 at 11:31 pm
mbnovak
I hate playing on my iPad too (I don’t have a smart phone…), but that’s never completely stopped Colin before. And the actual content of his posts is completely not throwing DG under the bus. That has nothing to do with the phone, since he’s going after me and Melissa somewhat. It has everything to do with him being in DG’s corner until he casts that late, non-decisive vote. Now he’s trying to tell us that was bussing DG, but that kind of retconning shouldn’t be something we allow him to get away with.
September 2, 2018 at 10:09 am
Colin Prime
You’re 3000% ignoring what I actually said and shaping to fit your view of me as a wolf. Stop twisting my damn words.
I said, actually, that I put the second to last vote on DG, not “the nail in the coffin.” I said the I put a vote on DG when Melissa was already the majority. I put a vote on a wolf to put him closer to majority when a villager already had majority. If I were a wolf that would be insanely stupid. There’s no way you can dispute that, and the fact that you’re twisting it to fit your idea of me as a wolf is infuriatingly obtuse.
Just dismissing my evidence presented against you and then changing up your game against me now is about as wolfy as you can get. I’m at a complete loss as to how to continue doing objective analysis when all you’re brining to the table is the same flimsy crap that you’ve brought every. Single. Day.
That is textbook wolf play.
All you’ve said against me is that I haven’t been around and that the content of my posts hasn’t been solid analysis. How am I supposed to do solid analysis from my phone?
I tried reading you as villager. Really tried. But this is just such obvious bullshit. Instead of pulling back and working through the game you’re just going for a villager kill to end it.
I spent two hours reading through last night and put up a, albeit drunken, comprehensive post of what I saw and drew an alternative conclusion. All you’re bringing in is the same tired argument. “ it’s colin but I could go toadah if I had to.”
As far as I’m concerned, right now, you’re overplaying your hand and cementing in my mind as a wolf, which really pisses me off cause I actually have time to play and work through the game today.
September 1, 2018 at 11:29 pm
BigPapaJonTheElf
Alright, I’m picking this up in the morning. I have to say, on gut instinct alone, Todah is my top wolf pick. I’m going to try to find something better than my gut tomorrow.
September 1, 2018 at 11:34 pm
mbnovak
I’m feeling Todah too, just not quite as strong as Colin. That’s why I dropped my vote on Colin and left it there – I’m away from my computer most of the weekend, so wasn’t sure when I’d get back and needed to put the vote down in the place I was most confident with. I’ve got to keep mine on Colin, because I’m not going to be around until late Sunday, if at all before the deadline, and I’m pretty sure about this one.
September 1, 2018 at 11:35 pm
mbnovak
Ash, Beezy. I feel pretty good about the two of you being villagers. I’m hoping you two can look at what I posted above regarding Colin. I’m appealing to you, since I think appealing to Todah is probably silly, since I think he’s probably the other wolf. Pope still being alive has been eating at me today, but I’m mostly on board with him being a villager too. Anyway, hopefully I’m not the only one seeing this stuff.
Todah, if I’m wrong about you, you’ve gotta see what I’m saying about Colin now, right?
September 2, 2018 at 6:52 am
ash10101
Hmmm ok. I’m hopefully around more today so I’ll have to go read back on colin later.
September 1, 2018 at 11:37 pm
BigPapaJonTheElf
One more thing I’m sure of – Novak and Beezy are not a wolf team. That was cemented for me when Beezy told Novak “I get to decide how I feel.” That response smacked of genuine irritation and real reproach, which I wouldn’t expect from a wolf pair. On the off chance that I’m wrong, though, bravo Beezy. I would never have expected that from a wolf.
September 2, 2018 at 1:40 am
Colin Prime
First note: I got a nice lol re-reading DP’s first post with a lovely nibs tribute. Then I got a yuge lol reading DG’s first post. He tells the whole village that he’s a wolf in that post. that guy. seriously.
ok. I read through each day watching voting and then read through again watching each player. I’ll list interesting voting and then summarize each player. *edit – I’m fairly drunk at this point, which is just barely getting through day 1 of writing this. its very late and my wife is getting pissed. I should be unpacking boxes but I regret not being around more early in this game. and I like reading and drinking beer. I’m going to post what I have for now and pick it up tomorrow.
voting:
first is the noon update on day 1:
ash10101
beezypoof
BigPapaJonTheElf (1) voting for daneekasghost
codefox voting for daneekasghost
Colin Prime
daneekasghost (4) voting for todahshy
The Dread Pirate
Inkarnit (1) voting for daneekasghost
mbnovak (1)
meat voting for mbnovak
MelissaD voting for BigPapaJonTheElf
nettiebarron voting for todahshy
todahshy (2) voting for Inkarnit
Warhammer voting for daneekasghost
lots of folks on the wolf. those not on the wolf at this point are most suspect, obviously. I’ll remove confirmed villagers. remaining are:
ash
beez
colin
toadah
novak
BPJTE – he comments just below to inform the mod that he is actually voting Ink, but “looking askance at (dg)”
so basically everyone playing right now.
3:17 voting day 1:
ash10101 (1)
beezypoof
BigPapaJonTheElf (1) voting for ash10101
codefox voting for todahshy
Colin Prime
daneekasghost (1) voting for todahshy
The Dread Pirate voting for todahshy
Inkarnit voting for mbnovak
mbnovak (3) voting for meat
meat (1) voting for mbnovak
MelissaD voting for BigPapaJonTheElf
nettiebarron voting for todahshy
todahshy (4) voting for mbnovak
Warhammer voting for daneekasghost
of the remaining, ash, beez and I still haven’t voted (I never showed that day so I’ll leave that alone for the rest of the posts).
of note, BPTJE moved to ash, though heat is on toadah at the moment. this is typical wolf play to stay away from wagons on day 1. it’s also day 1 so not really anything to go on.
note: codefox’s day 1 is the most villagery day 1 I’ve seen in a while.
later in the evening:
ash10101 voting for colin prime
beezypoof
BigPapaJonTheElf (1) voting for Nettiebarron
codefox voting for nettiebaron
Colin Prime (1)
daneekasghost voting for nettiebarron
The Dread Pirate voting for Warhammer
Inkarnit voting for nettiebarron
mbnovak voting for warhammer
meat voting for mbnovak
MelissaD (1) voting for BigPapaJonTheElf
nettiebarron (6) voting for MelissaD
todahshy voting for nettiebarron
Warhammer (2) voting for nettiebarron
pile on nettie, mostly led by novak, who then switched to warhammer when the vote got close to majority.
ash and beezy avoiding the villager vote? toadah piling on?
https://spookymilk.wordpress.com/2018/08/28/werewolf-speakeasy-iii-day-one/#comment-87857 this feels a lot like a wolf setting up villager cred.
note: melissa says the most villagery thing ever on day 1: https://spookymilk.wordpress.com/2018/08/28/werewolf-speakeasy-iii-day-one/#comment-87857
16 minutes to go:
ash10101 voting for Colin Prime
beezypoof voting for MelissaD
BigPapaJonTheElf voting for nettiebarron
codefox voting for nettiebarron
Colin Prime (1)
daneekasghost voting for nettiebarron
The Dread Pirate voting for Inkarnit
Inkarnit (3) voting for nettiebarron
mbnovak (1) voting for Inkarnit
meat voting for mbnovak
MelissaD (2) voting for Inkarnit
nettiebarron (6) voting for MelissaD
todahshy voting for nettiebarron
Warhammer voting for nettiebarron
still a pile on nettie.
two minutes to go, and the novak-led Ink train is in full swing:
ash10101 voting for Colin Prime
beezypoof voting for MelissaD
BigPapaJonTheElf voting for nettiebarron
codefox voting for Inkarnit
Colin Prime (1)
daneekasghost voting for Inkarnit
The Dread Pirate voting for Inkarnit
Inkarnit (5) voting for nettiebarron
mbnovak (1) voting for Inkarnit
meat voting for mbnovak
MelissaD (2) voting for Inkarnit
nettiebarron (4) voting for MelissaD
todahshy voting for nettiebarron
Warhammer voting for nettiebarron
of note: ash hasn’t moved his vote. he’s been sitting on this vote all day almost. yet he’s around to respond.
https://spookymilk.wordpress.com/2018/08/28/werewolf-speakeasy-iii-day-one/#comment-87950 Beezy puts the kill vote on Ink.
Ash votes elsewhere. this is very damning.
Toadah: day 1 – this says it all: https://spookymilk.wordpress.com/2018/08/28/werewolf-speakeasy-iii-day-one/#comment-87620 huge slip. this post clearly states that he has knowledge that code is a villager. blam. and this: https://spookymilk.wordpress.com/2018/08/28/werewolf-speakeasy-iii-day-one/#comment-87767 pretty textbook wolf throwing suspicion about without solid grounds.
Novak – day 1 banter is light, non substantial. I read this at the time to be wolfy. With a more objective read it just looks like day 1 fun. novak on drinks day 1: https://spookymilk.wordpress.com/2018/08/28/werewolf-speakeasy-iii-day-one/#comment-87720
this one is a very villagery thing to say: https://spookymilk.wordpress.com/2018/08/28/werewolf-speakeasy-iii-day-one/#comment-87750
that said, he led the charge on Ink with a pretty flimsy reason.
Beez – first post announces inability to be around. and that’s about it for day 1. Beezy’s whole game could be read as a wolf, or just a busy and not committed villager. given this, if she’s a wolf she’s not caring at all about it, which is not like her.
BPJTE – I have no idea. not enough to go on from day 1.
Colin – I know I’m a villager but whatever.
Ash – his day one reads like most of his games day 1: looks like a wolf. i say this because 90% of his posts are responses, and when asked by inkarnit for a list of his top three suspects, he minges his way through a noncommittal ramble that vaguely mentions three players. Inkarnit weirdly states this makes him a villager. His end of day one vote on a villager that got earlier heat, while not piling on the wagon to kill another villager is very, very damning.
at this point I’m leaning toadah and ash as the remaining wolves, with the rest – in order of most suspicious to least: novak, BPTJE, beez.
September 2, 2018 at 11:10 am
beezypoof
why would wolf Novak switch the vote from Nettie to Inkarnit, both of whom are villagers, unless he knows Inkarnit’s Angel role? and it’s been said that there’s no way he could have known.
if DG sent a drink to Inkarnit…well, inkarnit would be smart enough, as the angel, to refuse the drink, right? but if he took it…no, why would he take it?
so then i’m back to: why would Novak change the vote to Inkarnit if it’s already on Nettie, and his wolf self knows she’s a villager? i mean, what’s the point of that?
September 2, 2018 at 8:31 pm
beezypoof
anybody? damn, no one responds to anything i say.
September 2, 2018 at 8:37 pm
mbnovak
I think this is a good point!
September 2, 2018 at 12:04 pm
ash10101
Your theory is that because I look the same as always on day one I’m a wolf? That seems to be stretching pretty hardm
September 2, 2018 at 7:48 am
mbnovak
A follow up thought I had this morning… A villager Colin wouldn’t complain about my vote on him being wolfy, he would be panicked about it because if I was a villager (which he wouldn’t know for 100%, obviously) it would take just one more villager vote to give the wolves the win. Villagers should be panicked about votes on them, and doing whatever to convince people to remove those votes, not just using it as ammo to shoot at other targets.
Alright, I’m probably afk until evening tonight, possibly later. Go village.
September 2, 2018 at 10:15 am
Colin Prime
You’re just repeating what I said but in a way that fits your narrative.
Throwing a vote down without hesitation on potentially the last day is extremely wolfy. Villager Novak thinks it through. Wolf Novak goes for the easiest and most consistent target and hopes two villagers get on board so the other wolf can make a kill.
Also ignoring my analysis completely is extremely damning. You’re not engaging with me at all, but appealing to the village at large, also very wolfy.
Dude, if I’m wrong about this I will have 0 regrets because your play positively reeks of wolf.
September 2, 2018 at 10:23 am
todahshy
I just find a case against me so ridiculous because I decided to put my neck on the line yesterday and vote for Annette with what I thought were very logical reasons. I was crushed when I was wrong.
How about we look more at beezy and Ash who just followed vote trains the last two days?
September 2, 2018 at 10:41 am
Colin Prime
i guess I don’t see it as sticking your neck out. nettie had been getting a lot of heat and would be an obvious play for a wolf to make.
also, beezy reads villager. Ash I got lead to as wolf with my analysis last night. Novak is leaning those two as villager. it feels weird that you’d push those targets. then again it makes sense to look at everyone at this point.
September 2, 2018 at 11:24 am
todahshy
I pointed them out because they followed me two straight days and it stood out to me both times.
September 2, 2018 at 1:24 pm
BigPapaJonTheElf
Dude, if I’m wrong about this I will have 0 regrets because your play positively reeks of wolf.
This is what’s been frustrating me all game. My mind says he can’t be a wolf, it’s too improbable. My heart tells me he has fangs.
September 2, 2018 at 10:15 am
todahshy
I found it interesting that a second vote was not out on him by a wolf. I’m thinking I’m going with either him or you today.
September 2, 2018 at 10:16 am
todahshy
Though if we keep you you want to just Kill me tomorrow which would lose us the game anyway so why not just kill you now and if you turn up villager it results in a loss either way anyway!
September 2, 2018 at 10:38 am
Colin Prime
I honestly don’t care right now. I’m grumpy AF and crazy annoyed at Novak for being obtuse.
also, you’re saying this as if you know novak is one of the wolves. you’re phrasing implies that if we kill novak there will be another day, which would only happen if novak is a wolf. which also means that you’re the other wolf.
September 2, 2018 at 11:23 am
todahshy
No I’m saying if we kill Novak and we are wrong the game ends. Just like tomorrow when he inevitably kills me so it makes no difference.
September 2, 2018 at 8:17 am
The Dread Pirate
*** dead ***
Back at the State Fair!
*** redeaded ***
September 2, 2018 at 8:56 am
todahshy
Hi everyone sorry was not around yesterday. I’m in Florida for a wedding and the wedding was yesterday. I’ll be on a two hour drive to Miami to go to a Marlins game and will try to catch up and reread on my way since I’m not driving.
September 2, 2018 at 9:27 am
todahshy
I vow to find the real killers!!!!!
September 2, 2018 at 10:54 am
Colin Prime
I’m off to yoga and then a couple of errands then I’ll be back at it.
September 2, 2018 at 12:29 pm
todahshy
I know two players total in these starting lineups…
September 2, 2018 at 12:47 pm
todahshy
Make that three
September 2, 2018 at 12:31 pm
todahshy
vote Colin
September 2, 2018 at 12:58 pm
beezypoof
i thought you vowed to find the real killers. have anything to add to the Colin’s a wolf wagon?
September 2, 2018 at 1:03 pm
todahshy
I did
September 2, 2018 at 1:29 pm
Colin Prime
Well there’s at least one wolf on me otherwise this would be over.
Whatever, no ones listening to the work I’m putting in so what’s the point.
September 2, 2018 at 1:30 pm
todahshy
I’m trying to make that point.
September 2, 2018 at 1:31 pm
todahshy
And it means that at least one of me, you and Matt is a wolf.
I know I’m not.
September 2, 2018 at 1:32 pm
todahshy
unvote Colin
September 2, 2018 at 1:34 pm
todahshy
vote Novak
September 2, 2018 at 1:34 pm
BigPapaJonTheElf
3 votes is a majority today?
September 2, 2018 at 1:36 pm
todahshy
Four
September 2, 2018 at 1:45 pm
todahshy
unvote Novak
September 2, 2018 at 1:47 pm
todahshy
vote Novak
September 2, 2018 at 1:56 pm
BigPapaJonTheElf
What if I attempted a voting update?
ash10101
beezypoof
BigPapaJonTheElf
Colin Prime(1)
mbnovak(1) voting Colin Prime
todahshy voting Novak (but also not, but then also doing it)
September 2, 2018 at 1:58 pm
BigPapaJonTheElf
It takes 2 wrong votes by villagers to trigger a wolf pile-on.
September 2, 2018 at 2:01 pm
todahshy
Mmmm hmmmmm
September 2, 2018 at 2:15 pm
BigPapaJonTheElf
Well, I’m willing to take a risk. Colin makes a solid case in my mind.
Vote Todahshy
September 2, 2018 at 2:16 pm
todahshy
You’re clean at least.
September 2, 2018 at 2:17 pm
todahshy
But I am too so this is no bueno
September 2, 2018 at 2:19 pm
todahshy
I’m leaning towards a Colin and Beezy pairing right now. I can be convinced it’s Colin and Ash too.
September 2, 2018 at 2:21 pm
todahshy
I think it’s gotta be Novak or Colin and the argument where Novak wouldn’t propose not taking drinks only to flip hours later and argue for drinks just doesn’t seem like something a wolf Novak would do.
September 2, 2018 at 2:40 pm
todahshy
And then the other has to be between Breezy and Ash, I lean Beezy in that case.
September 2, 2018 at 2:25 pm
todahshy
unvote Novak
POST THIS GOOD LORD
September 2, 2018 at 2:26 pm
todahshy
Duplicate comment detected.
Duplicate comment detected.
Hmmmm. WordPress doesn’t want me to unvote Matt… Is this a clue?!
September 2, 2018 at 2:36 pm
ash10101
WordPress seems to not be liking you today.
September 2, 2018 at 2:37 pm
BigPapaJonTheElf
New voting update!
ash10101
beezypoof
BigPapaJonTheElf voting Todahshy
Colin Prime(1)
mbnovak voting Colin Prime
todahshy(1)
September 2, 2018 at 2:40 pm
ash10101
Every time I feel like I have an idea of which people could be wolves, they make an argument that makes my original opinion on it feel dumb. Novak isn’t playing entirely like a wolf to me, but is he good enough to know what we think will make him look innocent and doing it? I think he might be. My issue is idk who the second would be in this situation.
September 2, 2018 at 3:23 pm
Colin Prime
I’m off to Jerry’s (local Home Depot type place). I’m burned out on this.
vote Novak
This is where my head keeps going and I’m done working at this.
I’ll check in in an hour or so.
September 2, 2018 at 3:52 pm
BigPapaJonTheElf
ash10101
beezypoof
BigPapaJonTheElf voting Todahshy
Colin Prime(1) voting mbnovak
mbnovak(1) voting Colin Prime
todahshy(1)
September 2, 2018 at 4:08 pm
BigPapaJonTheElf
I guess it goes without saying that Ash and Beezy should be careful here. I think at least 1 of the three people who have votes on them is a wolf. Since people are not around today, though, a wrong vote might not trigger a wolf pile-on immediately, but it’s risky anyway.
September 2, 2018 at 4:15 pm
ash10101
Yeah, that’s why I’m not voting yet. I do NOT want to put us in that kind of a situation.
September 2, 2018 at 4:28 pm
todahshy
Sure that’s the reason.
September 2, 2018 at 4:31 pm
ash10101
I never vote early. And today of all days, I do not want to set us up so the wolves can just pile on and lose us the game.
September 2, 2018 at 4:49 pm
todahshy
Well sitting silently waiting with no vote is just as unhelpful as putting a bad vote down.
September 2, 2018 at 5:11 pm
Colin Prime
I’m off to take the kids swimming. Will be back well before night.
September 2, 2018 at 6:20 pm
spookymilk
Back from a long day at MOA but I see no update is needed. Under three hours to go, kids.
September 2, 2018 at 6:42 pm
ash10101
At this point, I’m pretty sure BPJTE is not a wolf. Beyond that, Beezy is probably the least guilty looking to me. I’m struggling with todah, novak, and colin because they all seem to be doing things that seem wolfy to me, but at the same time theres stuff theyre doing that doesn’t seem wolfy so I’m very stuck. At this point I think colin and Todah are my biggest suspects, because Novak’s being mostly clear thing makes him seem less likely to me.
September 2, 2018 at 6:43 pm
todahshy
vote Colin
Reading him today screams wolfishness to me. Follow me if you dare, all of my reads have been piss poor from the beginning this game.
September 2, 2018 at 6:46 pm
mbnovak
Unvote Colin
I’m here, but not really, for a bit. I’ve read enough that I’m nervous about Todah’s vote on Colin.
September 2, 2018 at 6:47 pm
todahshy
Don’t worry I’m sitting here refreshing every minute with this “unvote Colin” ready to copy and paste.
September 2, 2018 at 6:47 pm
todahshy
Well it’s actually unvote Colin
And yes I know it’s not official.
September 2, 2018 at 6:48 pm
mbnovak
Good to know. Still, I’m gonna take matters into my own hands for now…
September 2, 2018 at 6:51 pm
todahshy
I understand. That’s how I’ve been feeling all day but I know Ash or Beezy won’t take the lead on something so I just have to make a read and decision and go with it at this point.
September 2, 2018 at 6:47 pm
mbnovak
Let me be clear: that’s not to say I’m off of him. But I’m going to want time to look through more of today’s conversation (and what I missed on Friday again). Since Todah was my #2 target, I feel nervous if he’s the only one throwing down a vote in agreement. Maybe I’ll feel different when I’ve read more.
Hopefully I can do that in an hour or so. It’s gonna be later, obviously.
September 2, 2018 at 6:55 pm
todahshy
I’m pretty convinced you are village at this point. If you lose another Werewolf game for us by voting for me I will kill you lol.
If you are actually a wolf. I tip my cap sir.
September 2, 2018 at 7:02 pm
ash10101
Has he often lost us games of werewolf by voting for you?
September 2, 2018 at 7:05 pm
todahshy
One time we were final 3. We were both village. He voted me and we lost 😦
But it was understandable because we had been going at it all game and I just could not convince him I was clean at the end.
September 2, 2018 at 7:07 pm
ash10101
Oof that’s always a bad way to lose.
September 2, 2018 at 6:50 pm
todahshy
I had two votes in Colin sitting there for an hour earlier today. At least one of me, you and him is a wolf.
Today he has come out trying to twist facts to exonerate himself whereas in your case facts seem to exonerate you without twisting necessary. So that’s why I’m fine voting him.
BPJtE had a chance to bandwagon on you or Colin but instead started a new vote on me. To me that is pretty exonerating so I think the third wolf is either Beezy or Ash.
September 2, 2018 at 6:52 pm
ash10101
Yeah, BPJtE is pretty cleared to me at this point as well. Too much he’s done has just been WEIRD if he was a wolf.
September 2, 2018 at 6:57 pm
todahshy
I also find the speed of Matt’s unvote exonerating as well.
Which leaves two of the three of you, Beezy and Colin as the wolves.
September 2, 2018 at 6:58 pm
ash10101
Novak is hard for me. I generally agree, but at the same time he’s good enough to know what would make him look innocent.
September 2, 2018 at 7:12 pm
Colin Prime
In what sense have I twisted facts? I have stated exactly what happened, nothing more or less. This little subtle push to vote me is exactly what wolf toadah does. Jesus you guys.
If you’re referring to the voting on DG, it’s exactly as I said it. It was Novak that put his own interpretation on it.
I put the second to last vote on him when Melissa already had majority. If I was s Wolf all I had to do was let melissa die. There was no reason whatsoever to put a vote on dg there if I were a wolf. It makes no sense.
You ignoring this blatantly obvious fact is crazy to me.
September 2, 2018 at 7:17 pm
todahshy
Right here Matt fact checks you and proves that you weren’t the vote to send dg to OT. You got screwed over by meats vote right after and then by BPJtEs final nail in the coffin.
September 2, 2018 at 7:42 pm
Colin Prime
You’re not listening. I stated, clearly, each time that I was the second to last vote on DG. The last vote was the one to send us into overtime. I’ve said that over and over and over, correctly. this is extremely maddening.
What I said, exactly,
“My vote on DG was the second to last, which put us into overtime. No way in hell do I do that as I wolf. It would be the dumbest wolf play ever.”
The fact that you’re still harping on this when I clearly am not “twisting facts” is the kind of behavior that’s tipping me more toward you.
the point i made, if you still don’t get it, is that melissa had the majority. melissa was all set to die that night. If I were a wolf, why in the world would I put a vote on DG? IT MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL.
You’re ignoring of this, coupled with your subtle pushes, and added to the fact that there certainly is a wolf between you and novak given the voting earlier…. well, I think I know where my vote is going.
September 2, 2018 at 7:20 pm
BigPapaJonTheElf
Voting update? Sure, things have changed only not that much!
ash10101
beezypoof
BigPapaJonTheElf voting Todahshy
Colin Prime(1) voting mbnovak
mbnovak(1)
todahshy(1) voting Colin Prime
September 2, 2018 at 7:20 pm
ash10101
If novak is a wolf, he deserves a medal for “best wolf ever.” From today’s interactions, im pretty on the Todah or Colin is a wolf boat, I just have Zero idea which of them is.
September 2, 2018 at 7:23 pm
todahshy
I think you know what everyone’s role is.
September 2, 2018 at 7:27 pm
ash10101
I know my role. Probably. Pretty sure I do at least. beside that I might as well pull a name out of a hat with how split I am on who I think is a wolf. Every time I think someone is good I read something that makes them seem wolfish and vice versa. It’s getting frustrating
September 2, 2018 at 7:47 pm
BigPapaJonTheElf
Why not both of them, Ash?
September 2, 2018 at 7:48 pm
ash10101
Both of them is possible but to me they’re a bit trying to go at each other for both being wolves on a day where they could win. theyre far more likely to kill one another like this than they are to like, get us all to vote someone else.
September 2, 2018 at 8:02 pm
mbnovak
This is, 100% the best analysis I have ever read from Ash. It makes me suspicious.
September 2, 2018 at 8:03 pm
ash10101
I’m trying to be helpful! If I had said something unhelpful you’d have said I was a wolf too. I do not want us to lose today
September 2, 2018 at 8:08 pm
mbnovak
I didn’t mean to be accusatory. Actually was going for complimentary. I won’t be voting for you tonight, as that decision would take a full game reread anyway.
September 2, 2018 at 7:31 pm
ash10101
has anyone seen Beezy? She’s made all of two comments today we could use some thoughts from her.
September 2, 2018 at 7:43 pm
Colin Prime
unvote novak
September 2, 2018 at 7:47 pm
todahshy
Let’s suppose your clean. That would mean Ash and Beezy would be the wolves.
In that case what do you think of Ash’s post above? Is he trying to make sure Beezy is around so they can both pounce on a vote?
September 2, 2018 at 7:52 pm
todahshy
I know I sound like a crazy person throwing things out. But the only thing I know 100% for sure is that the losing vote is for me tonight.
I’m sort of confident Pope and Novak are clean.
That leaves the best option for the village to continue to be a vote for you, Beezy and Ash.
But I can already see how this will go tonight. The wolves set today up to use my Melissa and Nettie votes against me today and I’m pretty sure it’s going to work. So bravo everyone for getting roped in yet again.
September 2, 2018 at 7:55 pm
todahshy
It also doesn’t help that Jon is making a bad vote right now further crippling the village’s odds.
September 2, 2018 at 8:11 pm
Colin Prime
It is a little off, though I don’t think I’d read it that far in that direction. I’ve considered ash a few times over the last 24 hours, mostly because his posts don’t have any substance. Beezy so far has looked like her normal villager self to me. I’ve considered her plenty, but her wolf game is usually very aggressive. The last time I played with her as a wolf I ended up going off on her a few times. it was a high level of aggression.
that said, those two being wolves makes sense just from a logical perspective. both have been posting very little but clearly around. I’m not sure about Beezy’s voting patterns. Ash’s have been more damning.
September 2, 2018 at 8:07 pm
mbnovak
We can presume that one of me, Colin, or Todah are wolves (with two votes on Colin) or that the two wolves weren’t around. I know I’m clean, and within that bunch Todah is engaged in analysis clearing one of us, which suggests he’s not a wolf, as when it gets down there the wolves need whichever target will stick. Presumably this means the other wolf is within Ash or Beezy, though I’m not there all the way yet.
Pope, do you have other thoughts? I’m on board with you being clean, especially after the todah vote, since you could have put vote #2 on a villager (me) and didn’t.
September 2, 2018 at 8:11 pm
BigPapaJonTheElf
I’m sort of inclined to think you’re all wolves. But I have noticed that with the deadline looming, I’m still the only one on Todah.
September 2, 2018 at 8:12 pm
mbnovak
His day today has me thinking he’s cleaner, that’s for sure.
September 2, 2018 at 8:13 pm
BigPapaJonTheElf
Todah voting Colin and you unvoting immediately make me think you’re a villager, but you’ve been on Colin all day, and he really reads villager to me. Even after I went through everything he’s said on previous days.
September 2, 2018 at 8:15 pm
mbnovak
It’s a big ask, but compare his game in Avengers, when he was a villager. I feel like those read very differently.
September 2, 2018 at 8:22 pm
BigPapaJonTheElf
It is a big ask. I started, but I also have children* to put to bed**.
*Where children = laundry
**Where To Bed = Away
September 2, 2018 at 8:26 pm
todahshy
In these stressful times you brought a smile to my face. Thank you sir.
September 2, 2018 at 8:11 pm
mbnovak
Re: Colin on the second-to-last vote on DG… A wolf makes that vote. That is where his analysis fails. He has been accurate to say second to last vote. He was not accurate in his interpretation of what that meant. It didn’t mean he was really going after DG, particularly when his comments had him leaning the other way.
September 2, 2018 at 8:14 pm
Colin Prime
I just don’t understand this. melissa is clearly going down, so I put another vote on DG putting him that close to getting either a tie or him getting lynched instead? The only reason you see it this way is because it fits your narrative. That’s it. if you had a different narrative, it would look differently.
whatever. I checked out way earlier. I’m going to spend a few minutes with my kids instead of this nonsense.
September 2, 2018 at 8:17 pm
mbnovak
DG has a two vote clearance with 2 minutes to go. You vote him there and when he goes down (because he goes down the next day no matter what) you have more cred. That is a wolf move, and I think as a villager you at least acknowledge it cuts both ways.
September 2, 2018 at 8:20 pm
todahshy
Yeah there’s not much downside at all if it blows up.
September 2, 2018 at 8:12 pm
mbnovak
I gotta put kids to bed. Back before deadline.
September 2, 2018 at 8:29 pm
spookymilk
Is this really it?
.
.
.
ash10101
beezypoof
BigPapaJonTheElf voting for todahshy
Colin Prime (1)
mbnovak
todahshy (1) voting for Colin Prime
September 2, 2018 at 8:30 pm
todahshy
Have you been following this game?
September 2, 2018 at 8:30 pm
ash10101
Hahaha
September 2, 2018 at 8:37 pm
BigPapaJonTheElf
So, Ash and Beezy, it’s time to make a decision. I’m here, and prepared to unvote if it seems like there’s a pile-on, but there’s just no guarantee. I’d like to hear from you, Beezy. I know the games been a bummer, but a good end is still possible, and a bad end is just moments away.
September 2, 2018 at 8:39 pm
ash10101
At this point, I think I’m between Colin and Todah. I havent cleared novak or beezy, but they seem less wolfish to me right now. But between them…shit.
September 2, 2018 at 8:40 pm
Colin Prime
I’m going to have dinner with the family. I’m at a loss. I see novak being more rational today and I see toadah going from “I feel colin’s villager game” to wanting to vote me today, and putting subtle pushes here and there. The voting earlier tells me there’s a wolf in either Toadah or Novak, and I’m feeling more toadah so whatever that’s where I’m going.
I’m out of energy to think about it anymore. I hope this turns out well.
vote toadah
September 2, 2018 at 8:43 pm
todahshy
Sigh. Well if Colin is clean this is game over lol.
September 2, 2018 at 8:44 pm
mbnovak
No, if Colin and Pope are both clean.
September 2, 2018 at 8:45 pm
todahshy
Yeah I’ve been operating under the assumption that Pope has been clean. Maybe falsely but I can’t go back on that today.
September 2, 2018 at 8:46 pm
mbnovak
Not today, no.
September 2, 2018 at 8:43 pm
mbnovak
I feel good about Colin.
I’m trying to put some thoughts together about the next vote, if I’m the night kill. I’d appreciate everyone else trying to do the same.
Generally speaking, I don’t think Wolf Colin and Wolf Todah would go after each other like this today. But they also knew that people were potentially on both of them, so buying some cred with the village wouldn’t be a bad play if things weren’t looking good for either. I’d have to read the first part of the day again, as well as previous days, to see if that makes sense. If they didn’t start off at each other but them spun to that when traction wasn’t happening against others, that’d be a thing.
Pope seems clean, but then again, his reluctance to vote Colin (if Colin turns out to be a wolf) seems bad. Prescient if Colin is a villager, obviously.
Todah’s vote history ain’t great, especially being on Melissa. But his day today does seem very villagery to me.
Beezy, I thought I had clear, but if Pope and Todah are both clear, then I guess maybe I’m back on her like I was early on (truth be told, I’ve never been 100% off of her, but she seemed to have a few very good days in there (which, I suppose, led to villagers)).
Ash remains an enigma to me. That would be the reread I’d really have to focus on, but I just don’t know if I can see an Ash-wolf.
September 2, 2018 at 8:43 pm
mbnovak
Vote Colin
September 2, 2018 at 8:47 pm
todahshy
Why the sudden change on Colin from your post above?
September 2, 2018 at 8:47 pm
mbnovak
I meant I feel good about voting for him.
September 2, 2018 at 8:48 pm
todahshy
Ooooooh OK. I do as well. Beezys Novak vote has me good in her too.
It’s gotta be Colin and Ash
September 2, 2018 at 8:44 pm
beezypoof
i’m putting my vote here, because it’s the only thing that makes sense to my gut. i’m sorry.
vote Novak
September 2, 2018 at 8:45 pm
mbnovak
Beezy? Your gut is wrong. All the way.
Boy does this make me think you’re a villager though, and that maybe Todah is also a wolf.
September 2, 2018 at 8:46 pm
beezypoof
i just don’t know what to do. i’m gonna feel like an ass if it’s my vote that puts down a villager. you’re staying on Colin?
September 2, 2018 at 8:48 pm
mbnovak
I’m staying on Colin.
His “I’m gonna go play with my kids instead of fighting” is a wolf maneuver. Sealed it for me.
September 2, 2018 at 8:45 pm
mbnovak
Your point here makes perfect sense. https://spookymilk.wordpress.com/2018/09/01/werewolf-speakeasy-iii-day-five/#comment-88995
Trust your head!
September 2, 2018 at 8:47 pm
beezypoof
perhaps. but so does Colin’s about the DG vote. and hearing YOU tell me that YOU’RE clean doesn’t help, either. i was hoping for others peoples thoughts on that.
September 2, 2018 at 8:48 pm
mbnovak
Colin’s doesn’t make sense about the DG vote. A wolf uses that situation just like he did.
September 2, 2018 at 8:51 pm
beezypoof
also, like…Colin is on Todah. and you just felt like Todah is suspicious. if Colin’s a wolf and Todah’s a wolf, why would Colin’s vote be there? and why would you agree with his vote if you believe him to be a wolf? there’s stinkiness here. and i hate it.
prolly you and Todah are the wolves.
September 2, 2018 at 8:46 pm
todahshy
I don’t think Novak is a wolf.
September 2, 2018 at 8:45 pm
BigPapaJonTheElf
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ash10101
beezypoof
BigPapaJonTheElf voting for todahshy
Colin Prime (1) voting for Todahshy
mbnovak
todahshy (2) voting for Colin Prime
September 2, 2018 at 8:46 pm
spookymilk
Nowhere close, but nice attempt
September 2, 2018 at 8:48 pm
BigPapaJonTheElf
It’s amazing how quickly it can change, especially after not moving most of the day.
September 2, 2018 at 8:48 pm
beezypoof
and novak has a vote from me.
September 2, 2018 at 8:45 pm
ash10101
what on earth is happening today
September 2, 2018 at 8:46 pm
spookymilk
14 minutes
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ash10101
beezypoof voting for mbnovak
BigPapaJonTheElf voting for todahshy
Colin Prime (2) voting for todahshy
mbnovak (1) voting for Colin Prime
todahshy (2) voting for Colin Prime
September 2, 2018 at 8:47 pm
ash10101
Well fuck. Im gonna go look back now, one moment.
September 2, 2018 at 8:47 pm
BigPapaJonTheElf
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ash10101
beezypoof voting mbnovak
BigPapaJonTheElf voting for todahshy
Colin Prime (2) voting for Todahshy
mbnovak (1) voting for Colin Prime
todahshy (2) voting for Colin Prime
September 2, 2018 at 8:49 pm
beezypoof
FUCK! is this gonna come down to me?
September 2, 2018 at 8:49 pm
ash10101
Me as well apparently so umm…whos a wolf?
September 2, 2018 at 8:50 pm
ash10101
I dont think its novak. he’s done too much shit he wouldnt do if he was a wolf
September 2, 2018 at 8:53 pm
ash10101
Aannnnd as I say that he says something suspicious again. This is so hard.
September 2, 2018 at 8:50 pm
todahshy
It’s gotta be Ash and Colin. At least one of Colin and Pope are dirty. There are two votes on me and everyone is around. Yet I’m still alive
September 2, 2018 at 8:51 pm
mbnovak
Yes, correct.
September 2, 2018 at 8:52 pm
mbnovak
If Colin were a villager they’d have him dead now too, unless you were also a wolf too. So Colin being a wolf clears at least one of you or me as well, right?
September 2, 2018 at 8:52 pm
beezypoof
gotta be Ash and Colin? that’s precisely what you’d say if you and Novak are the wolves, which i’m pretty sure is the case.
September 2, 2018 at 8:53 pm
mbnovak
It doesn’t absolutely have to be Ash. It almost certainly has to be Colin. It could, hypothetically, be Pope. But he’s been working to clear people too.
September 2, 2018 at 8:54 pm
todahshy
If Novak and I were wolves we wouldn’t have two votes in the same person early. We would wait and pounce.
Right now Colin has two votes, I have two votes. No pouncing has happened. So one if us is a wolf.
I KNOW IM A VILLAGER. IT’S FREAKING COLIN
September 2, 2018 at 8:55 pm
todahshy
POPE or ASH WHOEVER IS CLEAN YOU MUST SEE THE LOGIC OF THIS
September 2, 2018 at 8:58 pm
beezypoof
this is not good enough for me. especially since y’all talking about how pouncing makes it obvious who the wolves are all day today (this is what you’re using to accuse Colin with his DG vote), so why wouldn’t you PRECISELY put two early votes on the same person? to throw us off, cuz you didn’t pounce? ooh, maybe!
September 2, 2018 at 8:50 pm
mbnovak
Papa still being on Todah has me flustered, honestly.
September 2, 2018 at 8:50 pm
todahshy
It’s so Colin. If we blow this I am going to freak out.
September 2, 2018 at 8:55 pm
BigPapaJonTheElf
I’m still not convinced on Colin. I see your points, but they are far from definitive. And if you and Todah aren’t both wolves and I move now, it’s over.
But on that point, you and Todah have been picking at each other for days, but you seem awfully friendly in the last couple hours. I may be way off base here, but it stands out to me.
September 2, 2018 at 8:58 pm
mbnovak
It stands out because Todah has come around to my way of seeing Colin. I’ve been on Colin for days. Todah is seeing things differently today. That doesn’t mean he’s clean or dirty, but that’s why things are different.
His day today changed my mind on him. I saw him and Colin together coming into today. Now I think they don’t make sense (like Ash pointed out), and Todah is actively clearing people. A wolf needs just 1 vote – anyone – to stick that is not them. Todah isn’t trying to keep targets he’s trying to elminate them from consideration. That’s villager move, not a wolf one.
September 2, 2018 at 8:53 pm
beezypoof
y’all saying it’s Colin and Ash. They’re saying it’s the two of you.
September 2, 2018 at 8:55 pm
mbnovak
Ash isn’t going that far. Ash is keeping options open. I’m not saying it’s Ash, because I don’t know that.
But Colin looks very very dirty right now, because at least 1 villager is on him and he’s not getting that 3rd or 4th vote (obviously I only know about myself, but I know it right now. Plus todah looks pretty clean after the day he’s had).
September 2, 2018 at 8:58 pm
beezypoof
and you’d say that very thing if you’re wolves with Todah. so.
September 2, 2018 at 8:50 pm
mbnovak
I’m reasonably confident that it’s not Todah right now. He’s done too much clearing of people today.
I could be 100% wrong, but that’s a crazy wolf move to buy credibility instead of going for the win.
September 2, 2018 at 8:52 pm
todahshy
It’s gotta be Colin and Ash. Two votes on Colin with no wolf pounce would also confirm his woodiness. It all gets explained if he is a wolf.
September 2, 2018 at 8:54 pm
beezypoof
how about two votes on YOU with no pounce? same fuckin’s thing.
September 2, 2018 at 8:57 pm
todahshy
Except I’m fighting. Colin isn’t because he has a backup. It’s over now. But just wow.
September 2, 2018 at 8:55 pm
beezypoof
unvote Novak
vote Todahshy
September 2, 2018 at 8:55 pm
todahshy
Wow.
September 2, 2018 at 8:55 pm
todahshy
Fitting end to the game.
September 2, 2018 at 8:55 pm
ash10101
vote todah
September 2, 2018 at 8:58 pm
mbnovak
I guess Todah is in jail.
September 2, 2018 at 8:59 pm
beezypoof
now he’s done.
September 2, 2018 at 8:59 pm
spookymilk
The village blew up late, finally ready to solve the problem of the wolf menace. Novak couldn’t be the wolf for about eleventy thousand reasons, but there he was, on the block. Still, the village danced around the truth, getting so close they could taste it.
In the end, todahshy was lynched, screaming all the way that he knew who the wolves were.
…and, indeed, he did.
Wolves (Colin Prime and ash10101) Win!
September 2, 2018 at 8:59 pm
mbnovak
Seriously.
September 2, 2018 at 9:00 pm
beezypoof
sorry. i’m no good at this anymore. been saying it all along.
September 2, 2018 at 9:05 pm
mbnovak
It was so frustrating for me. You have always been so good at this stuff when we’ve played together, and the fact that you were still going after me just didn’t check out with that reality at all.
September 2, 2018 at 9:10 pm
beezypoof
this is Multiple Sclerosis, man. it sucks.
September 2, 2018 at 9:00 pm
Warhammer
*** Dead ***
Gahhhh!!!!!
*** Still Dead ***
September 2, 2018 at 9:00 pm
ash10101
You really should play again! you were fun
September 2, 2018 at 9:02 pm
The Dread Pirate
Pretty fortunate you had working internet right when beezy voted.
(Slightly sour grapes)
September 2, 2018 at 9:01 pm
Warhammer
Sorry Novak…. I just liked my theory so much! It just made sense!
September 2, 2018 at 9:03 pm
spookymilk
No. It didn’t.
September 2, 2018 at 9:03 pm
spookymilk
The odds of Novak drawing Mind Eraser and Melissa picking him as Mind Eraser, together, were 1 in 154.
September 2, 2018 at 9:21 pm
todahshy
The odds of a seer forgetting to serve a drink are 1 in 300,000
September 2, 2018 at 9:22 pm
todahshy
And this is coming from a wolf who didn’t submit a night kill once!
September 2, 2018 at 9:26 pm
spookymilk
The odds of Melissa forgetting, though…
September 2, 2018 at 9:03 pm
mbnovak
It made no sense. 0. It was terrible. It probably cost us the game.
You should definitely play again. 🙂
September 2, 2018 at 9:08 pm
Warhammer
I’m not sure I can go as far as it cost us the game, particularly since no one ever followed through with a Novak vote that mattered and I don’t feel it was the driver in getting the vote to me.
But sure, I’ll accept responsibility!
September 2, 2018 at 9:20 pm
ash10101
I wouldn’t say it lost you guys the game but it distracted the village for a While.
September 2, 2018 at 9:22 pm
mbnovak
It just shaped the game so much. If I’d been seen as clean then Colin voting for me too would have been seen as dirty. Maybe Ash defends Colin there or somesuch. Maybe we actually consider other candidates and we can get some real information.
Heck, it got you killed because I absolutely had to switch my vote. AND I WAS ON COLIN ALL DAY!!!!!
September 2, 2018 at 9:07 pm
todahshy
Definitely play again.
September 2, 2018 at 9:00 pm
Inkarnit
I hated watching this game. I’m killing whoever doesn’t show up to play next game.
September 2, 2018 at 9:01 pm
beezypoof
did you know who it was, though?
September 2, 2018 at 9:06 pm
Warhammer
I was leaning Colin and Novak to the end….
I was definitely on a DPWY train (to myself) before the wolves took him…
I appreciate that Todahshy was (the only one) allowed across my villager line and was in fact a villager!
September 2, 2018 at 9:09 pm
spookymilk
It’s like you’re a regular already. I, too, believe DPWY to be a wolf almost every time we play together.
September 2, 2018 at 9:14 pm
The Dread Pirate
I never understand how I come across as a wolf every time. Also, clearly I’m a terrible wolf hunter.
September 2, 2018 at 9:22 pm
mbnovak
If it makes you feel any better, I’m apparently a freaking wolf even when I’ve been peeked as a villager.
September 2, 2018 at 9:25 pm
spookymilk
I don’t get it either, Will, though it’s been less pervasive for me of late.
September 2, 2018 at 10:43 pm
meat
it’s because your tone is always even. It’s so hard to read inflection, and I’ve hung out with dpwy in real life so I know how his voice sounds when animatedly telling how fucking awesome the f-rodney experience is going to be.
Yeah, your written self is way harder to read inflection on.
September 2, 2018 at 9:02 pm
mbnovak
Watching? Try playing.
September 2, 2018 at 9:03 pm
Inkarnit
Well I hated the day I played, too with the ridiculous logic used to lynch me as well. We have really got to stop lynching the people who contribute the most early on.
September 2, 2018 at 9:06 pm
codefox
Yeah I’ve made that argument too and really regretted my switch to you for that reason. I was not thinking straight that day…. I was so sick
September 2, 2018 at 9:09 pm
Warhammer
Codefox legit told me as soon as I died that he regretted jumping on the Ink train!
September 2, 2018 at 9:04 pm
codefox
Yeah no kidding. Frustrating to watch a bunch of people not play
September 2, 2018 at 9:00 pm
BigPapaJonTheElf
Yeesh.
September 2, 2018 at 9:01 pm
spookymilk
Against the grain, I kind of want to give MVP to todahshy, who has rarely if ever had this perfect clarity late. It was EXCRUCIATING to watch the village get this close. And for the right reasons!
Ash played his best wolf game. Todah played his best villager game. Many others showed up big in this way or that. Crazy game. I was super nervous throughout.
September 2, 2018 at 9:02 pm
ash10101
I didnt suck!
September 2, 2018 at 9:07 pm
todahshy
I channeled my inner DG and decided to risk strategically using votes to parse out the info and it worked perfectly until no one would listen lol
September 2, 2018 at 9:02 pm
Inkarnit
And how did no one lynch Ash for his stupid ass “oof” comments?
I was wrong on him day 1 but Jesus he shouted wolf all game long and you guys just kept focusing on Novak.
September 2, 2018 at 9:03 pm
The Dread Pirate
I know it was only a few minutes ago, but: https://spookymilk.wordpress.com/2018/09/01/werewolf-speakeasy-iii-day-five/#comment-89128
That’s a Yikes! if I’ve ever seen one.
September 2, 2018 at 9:04 pm
ash10101
Lets be real, This is me. I say stupid shit like that even if im NOT a wolf.
September 2, 2018 at 9:05 pm
Inkarnit
The fact that you suck so much as a villager is the only reason you didn’t get killed here earlier. Your sucking as a villager is so accepted that you don’t get lynched for it as a wolf.
September 2, 2018 at 9:09 pm
ash10101
Oy
September 2, 2018 at 9:07 pm
mbnovak
FWIW, if you look back at my last “list of all candidates” post, I was trying to lure Ash into keeping me alive because I was convinced (all my other “it doesn’t have to be Ash” comments too…). Not that anyone would have listened…
September 2, 2018 at 9:09 pm
ash10101
Interesting. I was probably still killing you if you all got colin dead today, though I think at that point I lose
September 2, 2018 at 9:02 pm
spookymilk
I didn’t make notes, but: chasing Novak was nearly unforgivable. The odds were incredibly low, and yet the village stayed on him even when there was another wolf in there. It was difficult to watch.
September 2, 2018 at 9:03 pm
ash10101
That was very odd to me
September 2, 2018 at 9:04 pm
Inkarnit
No kidding.
September 2, 2018 at 10:48 pm
meat
It wasn’t about the odds, I just wanted DG and Novak to try that play so fucking badly. How ballsy.
Also, I’m not sure why DG didn’t wait to counter claim the seer role.
September 2, 2018 at 11:04 pm
mbnovak
It doesn’t force Melissa if he doesn’t come out first.
September 2, 2018 at 9:02 pm
Colin Prime
awww I love you beez!
September 2, 2018 at 9:04 pm
todahshy
Good battle today.
September 2, 2018 at 9:05 pm
Colin Prime
you did such an awesome job. I was legitimately freaking out over how well you kept your head and saw through my bullcrap.
September 2, 2018 at 9:06 pm
ash10101
Same. I spent the entire day like “Colin is so dead”
September 2, 2018 at 9:07 pm
spookymilk
Colin, you had a great recovery after a null day one and a not great day two. You ran out of room (I thought) but did a good job of not implicating Ash in the case you left. In the past, leaving a trail was your El Guapo.
September 2, 2018 at 9:11 pm
Colin Prime
agreed. I felt like this was as close to a fairly decent wolf game as I’ve ever played.
September 2, 2018 at 9:12 pm
ash10101
You were good! nice call on not killing todah on night 2 btw
September 2, 2018 at 9:03 pm
beezypoof
my sorries to Novak and Todah. and eff YOU, Colin!!
September 2, 2018 at 9:06 pm
Colin Prime
smooches, Sarah. and HUGZ!
September 2, 2018 at 9:08 pm
todahshy
We’ve all been there. I’ve failed last day by making the wrong choice. It happens.
September 2, 2018 at 9:03 pm
todahshy
I can’t even right now…
September 2, 2018 at 9:04 pm
spookymilk
You were so good today. I’m sorry, man.
September 2, 2018 at 9:08 pm
mbnovak
Seriously. He was so good. I came into the day convinced it had to be him and he was completely clear by the end. How anyone thought it was him, I have zero idea.
September 2, 2018 at 9:04 pm
todahshy
I played my butt off today it’s just frustrating.
September 2, 2018 at 9:05 pm
ash10101
Sorry man.
September 2, 2018 at 9:09 pm
BigPapaJonTheElf
For whatever it’s worth, I typed Unvote Todahshy Vote Colin Prime on 2(!) separate occasions today, but couldn’t pull the trigger. I’m not sure what you would have had to say to make it happen, it just might not have been possible with the information available.
September 2, 2018 at 9:24 pm
mbnovak
What that’s worth is just more frustration for me… I still have zero idea what you were seeing in Todah.
September 2, 2018 at 9:29 pm
BigPapaJonTheElf
It was less of what I saw in Todah, and more of what I didn’t see in Colin. In spite of your certainty, I just couldn’t detect anything more than a guy under a lot of stress. Which will certainly inform my thoughts in future games. It had to be Todah or Colin in my mind, and I just couldn’t see it in Colin.
September 2, 2018 at 9:34 pm
mbnovak
That’s why I wanted you to look at previous Colin games. He’s often a busy dude, but when he’s a villager that doesn’t slow him down.
September 2, 2018 at 9:04 pm
BigPapaJonTheElf
At a minimum, I’m glad my head prevailed in the Novak question. Looking forward to finding a new way to screw it up in the next game!
September 2, 2018 at 9:06 pm
spookymilk
You quietly had a good game; me and many viewers agreed.
September 2, 2018 at 9:10 pm
mbnovak
I’d agree, but for not-seeing-Colin and Todah. But yeah, he really did play pretty well. His growth on Nettie was huge, his going after DG was huge. That was all great play.
September 2, 2018 at 9:12 pm
The Dread Pirate
Yes, your vote on day two was so incredibly villagery. Pretty much cleaned yourself from that point forward.
September 2, 2018 at 9:07 pm
Inkarnit
Yeah I was impressed with you all game for seeing the the bull
September 2, 2018 at 9:17 pm
todahshy
You did great until today…
Grumble grumble
Whenever I even vaguely considered voting you I just had to remember the kill vote on DG and be like nope he’s good.
September 2, 2018 at 9:04 pm
Colin Prime
seriously though, novak and especially toadah deserved a win. very solid play from both of you.
September 2, 2018 at 9:04 pm
ash10101
Yeah idk how we pulled this one out, but nice work! idk how youre alive
September 2, 2018 at 9:08 pm
The Dread Pirate
By the way, great job Ash and Colin. Yes, I was cheering against you, but y’all did a great job just staying out of the way of our own stupidity.
September 2, 2018 at 9:09 pm
Colin Prime
the back of your hand is very soft.
September 2, 2018 at 9:14 pm
spookymilk
Hahaha
September 2, 2018 at 9:17 pm
The Dread Pirate
Don’t make me go back to being your enemy.
September 3, 2018 at 3:13 pm
Colin Prime
I miss our little thing.
September 3, 2018 at 9:33 pm
The Dread Pirate
🙂
September 3, 2018 at 9:36 pm
The Dread Pirate
The problem is that you were so damn charming when I met you in person that I just can’t anymore. It was like meeting Andy Dwyer in person (and I mean that in the kindest possible way).
September 2, 2018 at 9:11 pm
ash10101
Thanks! I guess the only time I dont suck entirely at this game is when Im literally trying to metaphorically sit in a corner like please dont notice me while the village debates killing novak for like, two days
September 2, 2018 at 9:09 pm
Colin Prime
Novak and toadah if you were anywhere near me I’d come hug you. very well played. I will pat myself on the back a little but I know i don’t deserve it for this win.
Ash you were so on it that was awesome that you were ready to pounce!
September 2, 2018 at 9:10 pm
ash10101
I was watching and praying for either it to be 10 and no one to change or beezy to flip lol
September 4, 2018 at 8:43 am
mbnovak
It’s nice to hear this, because throughout the game I felt like you were gonna smack me in the face. I had to remind myself that it wasn’t real, you were just a wolf… Kind of like with Spooky taking you to task in the Avengers game.
September 2, 2018 at 9:09 pm
beezypoof
i’m glad Pope and I could totally destroy the ending of this game for everyone. (I probably couldn’t get off Novak cuz he was a dick to me early in the game and my feelings were hurt. feelings, guys. FEELINGS made me EXTRA stoopid.)
September 2, 2018 at 9:14 pm
mbnovak
I was saying I didn’t believe you because I think you’re always so good at this. That’s supposed to be a compliment!
September 2, 2018 at 9:16 pm
beezypoof
right. i get that/ but it isn’t one. because i’m not good at it anymore. and it sucks to hear people remembering me when i was, you know? it’s seriously been a tough week, cuz i hadn’t realized just how bad it’s gotten until i tried this. but i love you guys, i really do. except Colin. (i DO love you Colin, even when i don’t want to.)
September 2, 2018 at 9:17 pm
mbnovak
I can understand that.
I just hate that it made you feel like I was being a dick when I was actively trying to compliment you.
September 2, 2018 at 9:22 pm
beezypoof
fair enough. we’re still friends.
September 2, 2018 at 9:28 pm
beezypoof
(also, i’m obviously extra sensitive about it, so…this isn’t on you.)
September 2, 2018 at 9:12 pm
Colin Prime
It’s also very important to me to say that I never once lied about how busy I am. I actually closed early on our new house, which is a fixer and was left totally trashed and I had until friday to get it cleaned and tear out carpet and put new wood floors in and windows and paint everything inside and haul a literal ton of trash out of the house, and then move everything from storage into the house on friday. we’re still reeling from the move. Glad I didn’t turn into a complete dick during this game.
September 2, 2018 at 9:15 pm
mbnovak
And, FWIW, I never doubted your busyness. It was a complete non-factor in finding you. As I tried to stress, it was the content that was different, not the number of posts.
September 2, 2018 at 9:17 pm
BigPapaJonTheElf
Yeah, so that’s like four weeks worth of work in four days. Or at least two weeks worth. I’m surprised you showed up and cared about this game at all.
September 2, 2018 at 9:18 pm
todahshy
I never thought you lied about your business.
September 2, 2018 at 9:19 pm
todahshy
And congratulations on the new house!
September 2, 2018 at 10:03 pm
Colin Prime
thanks, we’re super stoked!
September 2, 2018 at 9:21 pm
beezypoof
i totally saw photos on facebook of the finished floors, not that this needs confirmation. and they’re BEAUTIFUL!!!!
September 2, 2018 at 9:20 pm
spookymilk
I…could see running a game a week from tomorrow. I have the fever 100%.
September 2, 2018 at 9:22 pm
beezypoof
i’m out. definitely OUT! Ha!
September 2, 2018 at 9:24 pm
todahshy
Oh I’m in lol.
I’m sick.
September 2, 2018 at 9:26 pm
codefox
Other than the fact that I’ll spend some of that Monday in synagogue for Rosh Hashanah, I’ll be pretty available. I’m sure Ink would like another shot at making it to day 2 as well…
September 3, 2018 at 1:51 pm
The Dread Pirate
I will also likely start day one in synagogue, but I should be available the rest of the week. If it somehow spills over to week two, I’m in a three-day hearing Monday through Wednesday (the reason I was out checking out horse farms last week), so just go ahead and kill me before then.
September 2, 2018 at 9:28 pm
mbnovak
Provided we can start with Ash as the night 0 kill, I think I’d be willing. 😉
September 2, 2018 at 9:30 pm
Inkarnit
I will pre-agree to this
September 2, 2018 at 9:29 pm
Inkarnit
I absolutely cannot be party to another dumpster fire.
I’m in.
September 2, 2018 at 9:37 pm
BigPapaJonTheElf
I work from home that week, so I could play.
September 2, 2018 at 9:45 pm
Inkarnit
Ooh I just realized I work from home that week too. In fact, it’s my first week in agency training. I’ll have some scheduled phone calls which may actually make me less available than I used to be from the office lol
September 2, 2018 at 10:03 pm
Colin Prime
oh yeah. I will be slightly less busy. I’m in.
September 2, 2018 at 9:23 pm
spookymilk
FUN FACT: Todah was almost killed on both nights two and four. Novak was almost killed on night three.
Ink’s only save was DG.
Melissa’s only peek was Novak.
I know people know this stuff, but I like to have stuff down.
September 2, 2018 at 9:25 pm
todahshy
WTH happened to the silence drink Day 1?!?!
September 2, 2018 at 9:25 pm
todahshy
I almost used this as a line of reasoning against Colin or Beezy at one point today because they were both absent day 1 and there was no confirmed silence drink rejection.
September 2, 2018 at 9:26 pm
beezypoof
that’d be fairly reasonable logic. except not against me, but still.
September 2, 2018 at 9:27 pm
Inkarnit
Well yeah. I was super frustrated that no one actually paid attention to the mechanics. The mechanics were super important. Instead, I got lynched even discussing the mechanics that I didn’t even bring up.
September 2, 2018 at 9:30 pm
mbnovak
I felt bad going for you on day 1. I always see you as a wolf early. But I’m also so bad on day 1. Even those times when there’s been a big tell and we get a wolf day 1, I usually completely missed the tell. I pretend I saw it too, since I want to be one of the cool kids, but I… really really blow on day 1.
September 2, 2018 at 9:33 pm
Inkarnit
I thought you did great afterwards, though. You were on point for the most part.
September 2, 2018 at 9:26 pm
Inkarnit
It was Colin and he doesn’t play day 1. He should have come in day 2 saying “I accepted a drink before I came to post and I was silenced!”
But it worked out this way anyway I guess.
September 2, 2018 at 9:28 pm
spookymilk
I thought this is what the play was going to be.
The fact that he didn’t admit playing, and then there was no silence, didn’t raise eyebrows, blows my mind.
September 2, 2018 at 9:31 pm
todahshy
I even gave him the out by suggesting you don’t reveal strikes. Yes I tried to make the game harder for myself…
September 2, 2018 at 9:31 pm
mbnovak
I’m going to suggest the fact that everyone thought I was one of the wolves and the wolves were actively not using their drinks had something to do with this.
September 2, 2018 at 9:31 pm
Inkarnit
I know. I was baffled. We discussed what the silence meant on day 1. Who it pointed to. And then DP said I should die for even being part of that discussion. Because it was “ridiculous.”
September 2, 2018 at 9:31 pm
spookymilk
Admitted not playing, not “didn’t admit playing.” Imperial Stout is fun
September 2, 2018 at 9:26 pm
ash10101
Colin.
September 2, 2018 at 10:04 pm
Colin Prime
Ash.
September 2, 2018 at 9:23 pm
beezypoof
ALSO: this shit is why i usually believe Novak. and here i choose not to, and it was the wrongest time for me to not believe him.
September 2, 2018 at 9:26 pm
mbnovak
For the record, I am a terrible wolf.
One time I was a good wolf, and that was by the skin of my teeth early on, and that made me seem good by the end. I wasn’t a great wolf, just a good one.
I have been a terrible wolf otherwise, and almost always will be, because I’m too damn earnest. It makes me a decent wolf-hunter sometimes (obviously I get it wrong plenty too), but yeah… I’m crap as a wolf.
September 2, 2018 at 9:25 pm
beezypoof
i mean, my game was off, but Colin, in restroscpect, i also can’t believe you’re still alive. like…how did that happen? tough game, no one really talking. Ash, i don’t know you in the first place, so i had absolutely nothing to go on. wish Melissa and Nettie and DP and Pope had been around more.
September 2, 2018 at 9:27 pm
ash10101
I don’t know how he’s alive either every time I came here I fully expected him to be dead and he just…kinda didn’t
September 2, 2018 at 9:28 pm
Inkarnit
People need to stop just doing what DG says. He’s a great hunter and a great wolf. But you can’t just all blindly follow him. If he hadn’t made the seer claim, wolves may have swept.
September 2, 2018 at 9:33 pm
todahshy
I can’t agree to this.
September 2, 2018 at 9:33 pm
mbnovak
If he hadn’t made the seer claim we probably would have assumed me to be clean, Melissa would have likely gotten another day and another piece of info… that’s a totally different game. Who knows what happens then?
September 2, 2018 at 9:35 pm
Inkarnit
Melissa not making a day 1 peek was bad for her claim against the wolf Seer. I was actually expecting her to be lynched anyway. But Colin bought himself some village cred in that play which ended up being enough to make up for his previous absence.
September 2, 2018 at 9:38 pm
spookymilk
I thought it 100% made her the seer. No wolf would even conceive of the idea that they had forgotten to make a peek.
September 2, 2018 at 9:39 pm
mbnovak
Yup.
September 2, 2018 at 9:41 pm
Inkarnit
Yes but… They still almost lynched her.
September 2, 2018 at 9:44 pm
mbnovak
Todah’s vote there (and his obsession with DG) kept me on him until today.
September 2, 2018 at 9:36 pm
spookymilk
Mmhm. Hypotheticals will only drove you crazy in this game.
September 2, 2018 at 9:34 pm
BigPapaJonTheElf
Why DID he make the seer claim? I admit to being baffled by that.
September 2, 2018 at 9:35 pm
Inkarnit
Pretty sure the answer is “because he could.”
September 2, 2018 at 9:38 pm
mbnovak
Yup. He knew he hadn’t peeked me, and knew he could get the seer revealed, while limiting the seer’s potential to clear more villagers and/or find wolves.
The problem with his play is that if the village agreed to not accept drinks, then the seer might as well come out anyway.
That whole mechanism is tricky. Being served a drink is something you always want as a vanillager, and to accept, but you always want the wolves to think there’s a possibility you won’t accept and will still be a vanillager. And the wolves never want to accept, but very much want other people to not accept as it gives them even more cover.
September 2, 2018 at 9:37 pm
spookymilk
I believe he thought he’d been peeked. It would’ve worked well if he had.
September 2, 2018 at 9:42 pm
Inkarnit
He knew he had been Angel saved, right? Not peeked. No way for him to be peeked without him knowing.
September 2, 2018 at 9:45 pm
spookymilk
He knew he was angel saved. But you’re right, he wouldn’t think he had been peeked.
Hmm.
September 2, 2018 at 9:47 pm
Inkarnit
I think he was just bored. At the time, he also had two co wolves that were barely present.
September 2, 2018 at 11:12 pm
daneekasghost
Inkarnit is correct.
September 2, 2018 at 10:06 pm
Colin Prime
remember his first post of the game? He literally admitted he was a wolf in that post. (paraphrasing) “this game is so much easier when the mod emails you who everyone is.” duh.
September 2, 2018 at 9:36 pm
todahshy
His seer claim and my need to try to make sense of it consumed me for the next three days. So in retrospect it was pretty brilliant. DG is always right!
September 2, 2018 at 9:42 pm
spookymilk
Remember, always, that DG does some fucked up stuff in this game, especially as a wolf.
September 2, 2018 at 11:14 pm
daneekasghost
Spooky is correct
September 2, 2018 at 11:17 pm
daneekasghost
I dunno. Pirate asked me who I thought the wolves were and I listed them. Nobody followed that.
September 2, 2018 at 9:38 pm
todahshy
My favorite part of the day was sitting at the Marlins game psychotically refreshing my phone every minute to make sure no one else was pouncing on the two Colin votes for an hour so I could quickly unvote if necessary. That was stressful.
September 2, 2018 at 9:39 pm
codefox
Probably more exciting than the Marlins (and I’ve been a Marlins fan since they started)
September 2, 2018 at 9:40 pm
todahshy
They had four players starting today with sub 200 batting averages.
It was my first time seeing an NL game in person at least.
September 2, 2018 at 9:41 pm
spookymilk
I too have ruined outings by needing to be online-present. I did my fantasy football draft from Target Field a couple of years ago.
September 2, 2018 at 9:43 pm
mbnovak
How about a mechanism where the mod gives everyone a random peek (like, announces it in the morning post) from all the currently-living players. But there’s a 25% chance the announced peek is a lie… no other special powers…
(I may have been going out of my mind this game. I couldn’t have been any cleaner, both in-game and via the seer. It is so disorienting to be in that situation and yet still be suspected.)
September 2, 2018 at 9:44 pm
spookymilk
It was…
I’m drunk. I should keep full thoughts to myself. But holy shit.
September 2, 2018 at 9:46 pm
Inkarnit
I will echo the holy shit.
September 2, 2018 at 10:30 pm
Warhammer
I have a problem with the idea that ‘I couldn’t have been any cleaner, both in-game and via the seer’. That whole point (and the degree it was hammered that you were the cleanest of the clean) just rubbed me wrong. The existence of the Mind Eraser means that villager seer doesn’t make anyone necessarily clean. I didn’t necessarily feel strongly that you were ME just that you possibly could be ME and this is why I didn’t necessarily try and push votes to you….I mostly tried to to clarify that no one was necessarily clean. Perhaps my shortfall was having nothing to go on for any of you – hard to play with substance when I have nothing to go on/compare with any of you.
I had literally thought about my theory as the dream scenario for the mind eraser earlier in day 2 and as soon as you claimed to receive two drinks after being clear to everyone that you would never accept a drink and then accepted both…it just smelled all wrong.
To then shout from the rooftops that no one could be as clean as you further cemented my suspicion. Doesn’t mean it was right, but doesn’t mean it isn’t valid. The likelihood of you (as ME) getting seered is the same likelihood as anyone else (as ME) getting seered – 1/9 at that point in the game – the idea of 1 /154 or whatever is the chance of Melissa was good seer and Novak was ME and Melissa randomly chose Novak – I would have thought the same thing with anyone as good seer and anyone claiming two drinks. My concern was losing to a ‘cleanest of the clean’ mind eraser…but I guess we lost just fine without having that going on!
September 2, 2018 at 10:51 pm
mbnovak
You’re simply wrong on this. Even straight numbers wise, you’re arguing for the 1/154th over the 153/154ths. Less than a 1% chance. But the circumstances backed up my cleanliness (I argued against using drinks, like Pope pointed out today), then used the info we got to clear players (such as meat). Your fear of the perfect circumstance was simply wrong.
I think you’re a fun player and I’m glad you’ve joined. But on this point you remind me of myself when I first started playing. I was 100% convinced the wolves were able to successfully cook up crazy strategies like this, and I looked for – and found – them everywhere, and always to the detriment of the village (and folks will back me up on this. I was horrible.). It just is not the way the game really works. I’m sure a few more go ’rounds and you’ll be right there too.
September 2, 2018 at 11:39 pm
spookymilk
Novak is right here. He was not good in his first few games, mostly because he was looking for extremely unlikely paranoid scenarios. Follow Occam’s Razor until it lets you down. The weird “deep wolf” play is not that common.
September 2, 2018 at 9:52 pm
spookymilk
One last FUN FACT:
The Mind Eraser was a last-second addition to give the wolves something to do, since
I thought 11-3 was super difficult for them. The Mind Eraser was never going to exist until the last minute. And then it did and holy balls.
September 2, 2018 at 9:53 pm
todahshy
😤
September 2, 2018 at 11:59 pm
daneekasghost
FUN FACT:
I discovered during the course of my seer claim that it actually made sense for the seer to accept a drink. I didn’t expect that.
FUN FACT#2
The last two speakeasy games, I have been the wolf seer. Both times I accepted drinks from the angel day 1.
September 3, 2018 at 9:01 am
todahshy
Your logic to the seer claim drink accept was so good it was one of the things that got me to vote Melissa.
September 3, 2018 at 9:04 am
daneekasghost
/sharpens canines