HALL OF CHAMPIONS
SPOOKYMILK SURVIVOR
I: Rachel “The Double-Dealer” Flynn
II: Ryan “The Snake” Fossum
III: Patrick “The Gentleman” Kozicky
IV: Brienne “The Submitter” Maner
V: Rusty “The Porn Star” Greene
VI: Brooks “The Unlikely Hero” Maki
VII: William “The Soulful” Schuth
VIII: Brooks “The Survivor” Maki
IX: Zack “The Ice Cream Man” Sauvageau
X: Pete “The Vacuum Cleaner” Bruzek
Turbo: Brooks “The 1956-1979 Montreal Canadiens” Maki
XI: Matt “The Cold-Hearted Motherf*&^er” Novak
All-Stars (XII): Andy “The Quiet Man” Rustleund
XIII: Sarah “Clarence’s Hope” Bizek
XIV: Dan “The Professional” Kautz
XV: Christina “Assault And” Pepper
XVI: Matt “The First-Time Player” Novak
XVII: Stacy “Saintly Patience” Snell
XVIII: Brian “Checkmate” David
XIX: Annette “Eammon for the Top” Barron
XX: Daniel “Neville “Smash “Hardware” Hardwood” Longbottom” Caouette
XXI: Pete “The Comeback Kid” Bruzek
XXII: Dan “The Even More Professional” Kautz
XXIII: Melissa “Don’t You (Forget About Me)” David
XXIV: Stacy “Fucking” Snell
GODS AND MORTALS
I: Dragging Rivet’s Name Through the Mud One Last Time: Matt Novak (Ultragrandpa) and Michael Rivet (Friph Flipher-Fiph)
II: Bahambo Number 5: Pete “Triple Crown” Bruzek and Michelle “Single Tiara…So Far” Pratt
BIG BROTHER
I: Brooks “Oh, for the Love of God” Maki
II: Michael “#DDB” Rivet
III: Pete “Fortune’s Fool” Bruzek
IV: Erin “All Seven and We’ll Watch Them Fall” Leslie
V: Jake “Littlefinger” Elliott
FALL, CAESAR
2014: Brooks “The Creator” Maki
2015: Matt “The Artist” Novak
2016: Matt “Waited Them Out” Novak
2017: Annette “I Would’ve Voted for You” Barron
THE ROYAL RUMBLE
2013: #21 Greg “The Gallant Glutton of Greatness” Johnson
2014: #29 Jonathon “Big Papa” Pope
2015: #8 Christina “Am I in This?” Pepper
2016: #22 Annette “No Backs Stabbed” Barron
2017: #30 Bernice “The Vulture” Nicaise
2018: #17 Carrie “Solid Gold” Bard
2019: #16 Jake “The Jabroni” Elliott
PLAY WITH THE PROSE
(Writing, non-elimination)
I: Sarah “Centipede Face” Johnson
II: Sarah “The Johnson Eliminator” Wreisner
III: Colin “Lonely Old Moon” Woolston
IV: Melissa “Not Sidebar Material” Diamond
V: Sama “No Family Reunions” Smith
VI: Sarah “Tumor Face” Wreisner
VII: John “Cult Following” Wreisner
VIII: Joshua “Peed the Bed” Longman
VIII: Annette “Oh, Right, That’s Who Won” Barron
WEREWOLF (most recent)
Werewolf Stats Spreadsheet
PUZZLE CHALLENGE
I (Pure): Matthew “The Obsessor” Gilman
I (Power): Kelly “The Novak-Destroyer” Wells
DIPLOMACY
I: Matt “Exploiter of Worlds” Novak (France)
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December 19, 2018 at 12:02 pm
Inkarnit
***new day new subscription***
December 19, 2018 at 1:51 pm
codefox
****dead****
I think we’re bound together like Harry and Voldemort. We always die the same day.
****still dead****
December 19, 2018 at 12:08 pm
mbnovak
Programming note: I’ll be away for much of the afternoon, so if you have any questions for me, it might be a bit before I get back to you.
December 19, 2018 at 12:17 pm
inspector giDGet
Aw nuts.
December 19, 2018 at 12:22 pm
kg2005
I’m here. Should be available for the rest of the day. Things seemed a lot more in hand when I caught up on everything last night.
December 19, 2018 at 12:25 pm
todahshy
So angel should claim yes?
December 19, 2018 at 12:26 pm
kg2005
No
December 19, 2018 at 12:27 pm
todahshy
I disagree but ok.
December 19, 2018 at 12:29 pm
kg2005
I mean, it kind of depends upon how many saves they have left. But there’s no real advantage to it unless we’re about to lynch them.
December 19, 2018 at 12:32 pm
todahshy
They didn’t save the seer, I have no confidence in them being useful to us at least having another known is some sort of help.
December 19, 2018 at 12:32 pm
todahshy
And yes I’m still fuming.
December 19, 2018 at 12:34 pm
ZG
Theorizing that the angel is a wolf. Let’s get them to claim so we can hang them.
December 19, 2018 at 12:34 pm
ZG
At least todah will be happy.
December 19, 2018 at 12:38 pm
spookymilk
I think the Angel should claim. We’re 6-1 so an angel save at night doesn’t gain us an extra day. For the Angel not to claim we’d be banking on two successful Angel saves.
I think I’m on board with a claim since there’s no possibility of a counter-claim.
December 19, 2018 at 12:45 pm
ZG
I always thought the counter claim was part of the point. The reward of knowing/outing beats the risk at that point. With no possible counter claim, the angel just outs themselves and has to focus on protecting themself.
December 19, 2018 at 12:55 pm
spookymilk
There’s no reason for the angel to protect themself at this point. It would be for clarity.
December 19, 2018 at 12:38 pm
todahshy
So Spooky has to be the wolf right?
December 19, 2018 at 12:44 pm
spookymilk
Has anyone actually come up with a reason for this to be true, or is it still that you just want it to?
December 19, 2018 at 12:47 pm
todahshy
I have many reasons why I think it so. None of which are a lust for mislynching you.
I’m just looking at my suspect pool here and you’ve tripped my wires the most the past couple days. But I want to reread what went down with your vote for nibbish the other day because that felt off at the time but I was not there for the context of everything and it was tough to piece together on my phone.
Then I felt that this morning you were talking a lot from the perspective of someone who would have been in on the wolves’ decision to go after nibbish last night.
December 19, 2018 at 12:55 pm
todahshy
Also you leapt on my Nettie suspect choice pretty quickly. I feel like villager Spooky would be the one nailing people down and throwing names out there rather than hopping on to other people’s suspects.
December 19, 2018 at 1:02 pm
spookymilk
Does it feel off because I was wrong? Is that what felt off about it?
Normally I would call this intentionally obtuse, but tinfoiling on shit like this is kind of your deal.
December 19, 2018 at 1:12 pm
spookymilk
Also, your entire game is assuming everyone who agrees with something you say is a wolf pile-on. Your read there is nothing special as a result.
December 19, 2018 at 1:13 pm
spookymilk
(I also don’t remember agreeing with you anyway. She’s simply the most logical kill choice)
December 19, 2018 at 1:23 pm
todahshy
I mean at least I never thought nibbish was a wolf…
December 19, 2018 at 1:30 pm
spookymilk
Good job, man. Even a blind squirrel.
December 19, 2018 at 1:32 pm
spookymilk
I loathe pointing at people that are specifically pointed at me, but using the nibbish situation as cause to lynch me just seems…too simplistic. If you want to mislynch me I really want – nay, demand – better than that.
December 19, 2018 at 12:55 pm
The Dread Pirate
I’m the Angel. I’m out of saves, so there’s no value in hiding rather than having us another confirmed villager.
I took a risk last night, and it didn’t work. Oh well…
My saves:
Myself night one
Myself, zg, and codefox night two
Myself and ZG last night
December 19, 2018 at 1:04 pm
spookymilk
Not who I was expecting, but okay.
December 19, 2018 at 1:19 pm
todahshy
Wow swerve…
December 19, 2018 at 1:20 pm
todahshy
I have to admit I kind of assumed that KG was the angel up until this and just figured he was not around to submit a save.
December 19, 2018 at 1:22 pm
spookymilk
Same
December 19, 2018 at 1:23 pm
spookymilk
AWWW SHIT KILL ME I AGREE WITH YOU
December 19, 2018 at 1:33 pm
kg2005
Aw, all that anger was pointed at me? I wouldn’t be so uninterested if I had a role.
December 19, 2018 at 2:15 pm
todahshy
I have high expectations.
December 19, 2018 at 1:11 pm
spookymilk
I’m teetering between not being overly worried even if I’m mislynched and wondering what s final day could look like if I am. If I ended up going today, Will is probably killed and we have ZG-todahshy-Prime-Nettie-Kage with ZG a confirmed villager. A mislynch there leaves three of the other four to solve in a 2-1.
vote nettiebarron because she’s null enough for me to have no read, and will likely continue to be so.
December 19, 2018 at 1:18 pm
nettiebarron
Sorry guys. Home sick today and feeling like crap. Not a wolf but lynch me if you must.
December 19, 2018 at 1:22 pm
spookymilk
NOTHING beyond that?
December 19, 2018 at 2:01 pm
The Dread Pirate
To update the summary from day yesterday:
Villagers:
ZG
Pirate
Unknown and includes last wolf:
Todahshy
Spooky
Colin
Nettie
KG
If we’re wrong today, then the wolf kills either ZG or me. That leaves 4-v-1 tomorrow with one known villager. The village has definitely been in more dire situations.
ZG, are you going to be around today much? You and I have some heavy lifting to do.
December 19, 2018 at 2:13 pm
todahshy
I would really love to know your thoughts on people.
December 19, 2018 at 2:14 pm
todahshy
We get 3 guesses to win right?
I’d rank currently:
Spooky
Annette
KG
Colin
December 19, 2018 at 2:25 pm
The Dread Pirate
I’m going to try to get my thoughts together. Without any digging back (so potentially based on my faulty memory), I would rank it:
KG
Spooky
Colin
Nettie
You
I’m not seeing much in Nettie besides normal villager Nettie. Of course, she could be staying super silent to try to about saying anything incriminating. I’m going to look back and then hopefully share what I see.
December 19, 2018 at 2:47 pm
ZG
I’m around and I’ve been working out, so let’s get to lifting.
December 19, 2018 at 2:29 pm
todahshy
I just started rereading Day 2. Codefox going after DPWY is making me chuckle.
December 19, 2018 at 2:40 pm
todahshy
How did we miss this post?
Would have solved the seer debate pretty quickly.
December 19, 2018 at 2:51 pm
kg2005
I thought somebody linked to that post yesterday, but going back now I can’t find it. Anyway, wasn’t the point of not lynching Inkarnit so that Nibbish wouldn’t go down with him?
December 19, 2018 at 2:52 pm
todahshy
Are you trying to ignite my rage again?!?!
December 19, 2018 at 2:55 pm
kg2005
Yes. Probably. Why? What difference does it make?
December 19, 2018 at 3:23 pm
todahshy
So, I came away from my re-read of Day 2 convinced more than ever that Spooky is third wolf. He did absolutely no hunting, anytime someone accused him of anything his only defense was lame meta-game reasons why it could not be so:
Like me wanting to intentionally mislynch him to destroy his perfect record… like what???
There’s also the classics like “wolf me would never act this way, this is exactly how villager spooky acts”.
I see him putting no heat on anyone and then he attempts on some VERY flimsy reasoning to get a train going on nibs (at which point Ink totally changes arguments and demeanor as they got up to 3 votes and thought they had a chance to take the seer out for free without needing the super wolf to do it – aka best case scenario for wolves).
Colin Prime had a REALLY weird day, but I enjoyed following his story.
December 19, 2018 at 3:43 pm
spookymilk
You are absolutely terrible. The worst.
I do believe you would love to break that record, though I don’t think it’s your intent.
I’m going to attempt a full read later, in the extremely small amount of time I’ll have, particularly since you’re convinced you need to screw this up and make judgment calls on two essentially silent players.
I said I wouldn’t do something as dumb as being the only one to defend inkarnit if I was the only wolf because, indeed, I would not do that if I was the only wolf. Lame or not, it would be way easier not to fight that wave.
On the upside, I’m pretty sure this quelled my suspicions that you could be going deep wolf. It’s got to be either Colin or the quiet ones. My preferred is probably Kage at this point but that’s more guesswork than anything. Annette could be the one just as easily but our lack of available read isn’t really helping.
December 19, 2018 at 3:24 pm
todahshy
vote Spooky
December 19, 2018 at 3:42 pm
todahshy
Here’s the Day 3 perspective issue for me where I think he is talking from the wolves’ perspective on the night kill a little too easily. (He also gets the seer rules wrong even though they were explained to I believe him — I need to double check, I know they were clarified for someone — on Day 2.)
December 19, 2018 at 3:44 pm
todahshy
https://spookymilk.wordpress.com/2018/12/19/werewolf-by-invitation-only-day-3/#comment-90025 — Also what??? On ink by the end?
December 19, 2018 at 3:54 pm
kg2005
For me it’s the entrance, just like he always likes to talk about.
Dreading the seer outcome all night? I thought for sure he was the angel when I first saw it, because who else wouldn’t think the Seer would be saved? It wasn’t even on my radar when I read last night.
December 19, 2018 at 3:55 pm
spookymilk
On ink in that I wasn’t on nib anymore and it was obviously one of them.
December 19, 2018 at 3:58 pm
spookymilk
I’m legit enjoying watching you tinfoil and fail at this
December 19, 2018 at 3:51 pm
todahshy
The rules were clarified for him on Day 2: https://spookymilk.wordpress.com/2018/12/18/werewolf-day-2/#comment-89687
December 19, 2018 at 3:42 pm
mbnovak
***
Vote Update
***
Todah voting Spooky
ZG
Spooky (1) voting Nettie
Colin Prime
Nettie (1)
KG
DPWY
December 19, 2018 at 3:45 pm
ZG
I know I’m not usually helpful, but kg and nettie are in another league at this point in terms of lack of substance and presence. Almost enough that a respectable wolf wouldn’t be so deliberately useless and absent. No offense – I’m never good at being constantly present.
Todah has plenty of exposure and I see nothing that seems untoward.
Colin’s being weird, but also seems to be advancing the cause, and did a lot of the effort yesterday. Hard to say it was wolfish.
Spooky is the one for me that seems all over the place. His hesitation on Inkarnit was one thing, his being so upset about the game as a whole, even after finding the second wolf on day 2, seemed totally misplaced.
December 19, 2018 at 3:55 pm
kg2005
Well, that’s fair, and why I haven’t volunteered for a game in so long.
December 19, 2018 at 4:04 pm
ZG
Likewise, here
December 19, 2018 at 4:00 pm
spookymilk
I’ve been weird all year. I’ve been fighting and losing against depression all year. I’ve been angry about everything all the time. Having to deal with todah is always a pain in the ass but he’s on another level this time.
December 19, 2018 at 4:08 pm
ZG
Wouldn’t wish that on anyone, and my best to you.
You’re usually a way better hunter than most by day 3+, so we could use that about now if you got anything. With your broader historical-werewolf perspective, are we setting up a final day with nettie, kg, wolf if we don’t get them first?
December 19, 2018 at 4:11 pm
spookymilk
You and Will are next to be night killed (probably not in that order). Unless Will is bluffing about his saves.
If I go, potential last day includes three of Colin, todah, Nettie and Kage. At least one villager will have to make a total guess on a silent player.
December 19, 2018 at 4:13 pm
spookymilk
Another downside to todah’s crusade besides its utter wrongness is that if the wolf is one of the quiet ones, they have zero reason to speak louder and give anything away.
December 19, 2018 at 4:22 pm
ZG
Yeah, given all that, I’m amenable to the “lynch ’em later” approach and focusing on eliminating potential silent observer wolves.
December 19, 2018 at 4:54 pm
The Dread Pirate
Hey spooky, if you ever need someone to chat with off-site, hit me up. We’re all here for you, buddy.
December 19, 2018 at 4:58 pm
Colin Prime
Agreed. You have my contact info, Kelly. Use it whenever you want/need. Anytime.
Much love to you.
December 19, 2018 at 4:19 pm
kg2005
Vote annette
Maybe it’s my undying love for Todah, but I still lean toward Spooky being the wolf. However, since we have two more shots at it after today, I think there’s a lot of value in eliminating one of the more quiet players. Plus, I have been invited to go to a movie tonight.
Huh, it seems as though my glass house has a rather large crack in it.
December 19, 2018 at 4:22 pm
The Dread Pirate
Ok, spooky so badly strategized throughout the seer claims yesterday that I don’t think he can be a wolf. He was falling pretty hard for inkarnit’s terrible analysis, and I think a fellow wolf stays away from all that.
December 19, 2018 at 4:29 pm
ZG
Thoughts on the silent partners? Start there?
December 19, 2018 at 4:23 pm
spookymilk
Ehhhh. Kage’s last couple of posts seem pretty opportunistic. Set me up for the long game and call me wolf, and vote for someone else. Two for one.
unvote Annette; vote kg
December 19, 2018 at 4:29 pm
kg2005
Well, you’re consistent about calling out anyone who looks your way, I’ll give you that.
December 19, 2018 at 4:38 pm
spookymilk
Solid attempt
December 19, 2018 at 4:39 pm
Colin Prime
This does make sense. Annette called this out too. I could go either KG or Annette as I said.
December 19, 2018 at 4:35 pm
nettiebarron
Okay, I’m up…kind of.
I don’t understand KG’s “I think the wolf is Spooky, so let’s vote Annette” theory.
Spooky is not hunting as aggressively as usual, but still doesn’t really trigger any wolf-dar, generously assuming that I even have one.
I think my two top suspects would have to be Colin and KG. KG is talking in circles and Colin is way too charming to not be up to no good.
December 19, 2018 at 4:36 pm
Colin Prime
Ok. Hi. In the interest of the game:
I think the main reason I’m reading spooky as the final wolf is his reactionary posts and lack of any hunting. This makes more sense if he’s a villager really, as he’s a better wolf than that. I’m going to table that for now. I can’t rule it out because his behavior is so textbook spooky wolf play (I’m saying the content of his posts, not any voting patterns) that it makes it super hard to put that aside for now.
DP and ZG are obv clear.
That leaves:
Me
KG
Nettie
Toadah
I know I’ve been weird, but I’m pretty sure my voting and actual effort at parsing things out should stand out enough to make it pretty clear that I’m a villager, which I am.
Of Nettie, KG and toadah, toadah is the most active so killing him would be a bad choice. On the last day there will be enough to work with there to make decisions.
Between KG and Nettie it’s kind of a toss up because their activity level is about the same. I think Nettie is a better choice because she hasn’t contributed anything at all but seems to be around when asked for.
I’ll post a vote in a few pending discussion
December 19, 2018 at 4:38 pm
kg2005
Disagree about spooky. Way better villager than wolf. A+ villager.
December 19, 2018 at 4:39 pm
spookymilk
You missed the last game, but it was my best wolf game.
True, though. Generally a much better villager than wolf.
December 19, 2018 at 4:42 pm
Colin Prime
Agreed on that, but that doesn’t refute my argument. I’m saying he’s a better wolf than this. If he’s a wolf this game he’s either pulling a hiding in plain sight kind of thing or is having a truly terrible game. I think he’s legit stressed and having an off game as a villager.
December 19, 2018 at 4:43 pm
kg2005
My only memory of him as a wolf is in a game where I was also a wolf and he pulled the same kind of deal and way caught right away, but that was a long time ago.
December 19, 2018 at 4:49 pm
spookymilk
I had been seen by the seer. Before the first day started. So, yeah, caught.
December 19, 2018 at 4:41 pm
spookymilk
I think it’s neato that people are calling it my “lack of hunting” despite doing the same shit everyone else did on day two (attempting to commit to a wolf between seers) and playing day one as I always do.
Tell me what “classic wolf spooky” is, because I’m already pretty sure you’re going to describe classic village spooky.
December 19, 2018 at 4:46 pm
Colin Prime
As a wolf you zero in on players that suspect you and aggressively attack their quality of game play and logic with little regard to what’s happening in the game, or any regard to the potential legitimacy of their claims.
Villager spooky can be equally aggressive but is usually willing to consider that he might be wrong.
The difference is basically in your willingness to debate vs your desire to derail.
December 19, 2018 at 4:48 pm
spookymilk
Hmm. You explained my last game, but that’s nowhere near classic spooky wolf. Classic spooky wolf was too agreeable and WAY too neutral. That was the issue I sought to correct last time.
December 19, 2018 at 4:52 pm
todahshy
I didn’t get caught up in the seer debate and neither did most people. The debate I was involved in was whether to kill one of them or to wait. Something you largely stayed away from because you wanted us to kill one of nibs or Ink to off the seer? That’s how it read to me on my reread.
December 19, 2018 at 5:07 pm
spookymilk
You saw what you decided to want to see. As with your usual rereads.
December 19, 2018 at 5:12 pm
todahshy
Trashing my game play repeatedly (which I’ve never ever intimated I’m remotely good at) does not help us find a wolf.
December 19, 2018 at 5:22 pm
spookymilk
This is relevant. It’s extremely relevant. I’m trying to point out to you that you’re seeing me as a wolf not through logic but by your own predisposition to find me as a wolf.
I never trash games for fun. I wish I didn’t do it at all, but I do. I do it to point out flaws in logic and try to highlight ongoing gaming issues that are affecting the game in question.
Easy for me to say, but I really, really don’t think it makes any sense for me to be a wolf, and you literally picked the day that best displays that fact to attempt to prove the opposite.
December 19, 2018 at 5:23 pm
spookymilk
Let me highlight my own flaw: I truly believe my own ego wouldn’t allow me to look as wrong as I was for most of yesterday if I was faking it.
December 19, 2018 at 6:42 pm
todahshy
See this was way more effective than just blanketly trashing me without specifics!!
December 19, 2018 at 9:46 pm
spookymilk
I just didn’t have time, man. I only ever had the chance to respond to things in real time. Rereads literally weren’t an option. If I ran through my Monday to Wednesday for you, you’d be shocked and even disappointed that I decided to play this game as hard as I did.
December 19, 2018 at 4:55 pm
Colin Prime
Regardless I don’t want to talk about spooky or toadah anymore.
I think it’s necessary to focus on the following:
If we’re going to lynch a quiet player, should it be KG or Annette?
If not going that route, who between me, toadah or spooky and why?
December 19, 2018 at 4:57 pm
todahshy
Whoa what did I do?
You just want to lynch everyone huh. Interesting.
December 19, 2018 at 4:59 pm
kg2005
…I did not read it that way. He just listed all the options.
December 19, 2018 at 5:00 pm
Colin Prime
Dude stop. Just stop. You’re not helping with this kind of play. I asked a legit question. Answer it or be quiet if you want to help.
December 19, 2018 at 5:07 pm
todahshy
Of course it was helpful. We got an interesting reply from kg that helps me a lot.
December 19, 2018 at 5:09 pm
todahshy
But to answer your question if we are picking quiet I say Annette over KG.
Other three I go with spooky.
I don’t think you are a wolf based on my reread I’ve all but cleared you based on a day 1 interaction you had with Ash.
So my list is
Spooky
Annette
KG
KG and Annette just flipped spot because I think KGs response above was a villageresque response.
December 19, 2018 at 5:12 pm
Colin Prime
Nice. Totally what I was hoping to see. I agree on Annette vs KG.
December 19, 2018 at 5:37 pm
spookymilk
I’m feeling fairly good on Annette being the final after this kg thing and your exchange.
Would be sweet to finish this thing.
December 19, 2018 at 5:01 pm
mbnovak
***
Vote Update
***
Todah voting Spooky
ZG
Spooky (1) voting KG
Colin Prime
Nettie (1)
KG (1) voting Nettie
DPWY
My kids have their Christmas concert tonight. I’ll not necessarily be back before the deadline, but I might be. I’ll be back shortly after to post the death post regardless, so if someone wants to call night, I’d appreciate it.
December 19, 2018 at 5:07 pm
ZG
I’ll be headed home soon, and have a proclivity towards forgetting to check in.
Voke kg2005
I’m still open to debate.
December 19, 2018 at 5:13 pm
Colin Prime
I think most folks are leaning Annette, for stated reasons.
December 19, 2018 at 5:25 pm
kg2005
I do have to get going soon. I’ll stick with my opinion that one of the quieter players should be lynched. If that has to be me, fine, I get it.
One thing that I’ve been mulling over is whether or not to bring up the Angel again. I decided that I should. I didn’t think that the Angel should come out at all, but I especially did not think that the Angel should tell us how many saves he had left.
But he did. Why? Hopefully he was lying. So why am I bringing this up? I’d rather the wolves not target our known villagers at all. I think it’s much more important for them to have a bunch of doubt about the situation than to have a successful angel save since it doesn’t save us a day. Just my two cents.
December 19, 2018 at 5:34 pm
spookymilk
This is pretty good right here.
December 19, 2018 at 5:47 pm
The Dread Pirate
I came out to give us another villager. I thought that was more valuable than any ambiguity at this point from staying quiet especially given I can’t stop a night kill anymore
December 19, 2018 at 6:05 pm
todahshy
It is Will he may be lying about the saves.
December 19, 2018 at 5:35 pm
spookymilk
unvote kg2005; vote Annette
Though I would be disappointed if the final wolf was playing this absently.
December 19, 2018 at 5:42 pm
nettiebarron
Obviously, I didn’t sign up to play Werewolf, but I definitely would either drop out or be more present as a wolf.
I know I haven’t been much help. Maybe that’s reason enough? But not a wolf. And not even wolfy.
December 19, 2018 at 5:44 pm
spookymilk
Or villagery. There’s no read to be made.
December 19, 2018 at 5:44 pm
nettiebarron
Vote KG
December 19, 2018 at 5:45 pm
Colin Prime
I think it’s got to be either Annette or KG.
vote Annette
December 19, 2018 at 5:52 pm
spookymilk
I still kinda can envision you doing it, but I admit it would be a super unconventional game from you.
If it’s todah I’ll drive to the nor’east and personally profess my love for him.
December 19, 2018 at 6:03 pm
todahshy
I don’t even think DG could be a wolf playing the way I’ve played this game.
December 19, 2018 at 6:07 pm
todahshy
We at 3-2-1?
I’m not making a majority until Will or ZG chimes in a bit more on things.
December 19, 2018 at 6:12 pm
todahshy
Lol I’m starting to lean KG. About to drive home so give me an hour to think and formulate my thoughts so I can get feedback
December 19, 2018 at 6:08 pm
todahshy
So last night when Annette voted for Pope, Ink jumped on almost immediately.
Does he do that if she is the third wolf?
December 19, 2018 at 6:18 pm
spookymilk
Yeah, potentially. Ink has played more Werewolf than most of us combined and isn’t afraid of the unconventional play.
But I’m open to kg, still. The opportunity of his those posts was convenient even if the subsequent posts were better.
Soon I’m going to be almost completely gone for the night. Hoping against hope that this is finished today because my anniversary is tomorrow.
December 19, 2018 at 6:20 pm
spookymilk
Now that I’m reading Kage’s goodbye post with the wolf look I’m finding it stagey. Confirmation bias, probably. But I’m seeing some of that.
unvote Annette…again
December 19, 2018 at 6:24 pm
todahshy
Agree
December 19, 2018 at 6:22 pm
todahshy
Oh I’ll finish you today… I mean yeah we’ll finish this today!
December 19, 2018 at 6:21 pm
spookymilk
unvote Annette
Nested above
December 19, 2018 at 6:23 pm
The Dread Pirate
I prefer kg to Nettie, but can be persuaded. I’m at my parents because all the grandkids are decorating the Christmas tree soon, so I’ll be away until about the final hour.
December 19, 2018 at 6:28 pm
spookymilk
vote kg2005
Okay, off for quite a while.
December 19, 2018 at 6:28 pm
The Dread Pirate
Just in case you’re all waiting on me, I’ll vote kg
Again, I’ll be back about an hour before the deadline to chat/review
December 19, 2018 at 6:38 pm
todahshy
I think that’s majority.
I didn’t even get to draft my treatise.
December 19, 2018 at 8:08 pm
The Dread Pirate
I still wouldn’t mind seeing your treatise.
December 19, 2018 at 8:13 pm
todahshy
I can’t be bothered to write that if you are all already convinced to vote KG!
December 19, 2018 at 8:33 pm
The Dread Pirate
Was it going to be to convince us to vote kg?
December 19, 2018 at 8:08 pm
Colin Prime
unvote Nettie vote kg
Just in case another is needed for majority
December 19, 2018 at 8:12 pm
todahshy
invite spooky vote kg
Just in case another another vote is needed for majority.
December 19, 2018 at 8:35 pm
mbnovak
Obviously KG is in jail.
December 19, 2018 at 8:37 pm
mbnovak
Night will still be at 9.
December 19, 2018 at 8:39 pm
mbnovak
Just kidding. KG was the last wolf. Village wins!
Boy that was easy, huh? Good thing no one got fired up and said anything offensive to anyone else.
December 19, 2018 at 9:13 pm
todahshy
I’ll admit I was close to rage quitting but cooled down after Spooky was more specific with his issues with me. Which then led me to realize KG was the wolf. So it all worked out.
December 19, 2018 at 9:27 pm
spookymilk
You rage quitting would’ve been awesome too.
December 19, 2018 at 9:37 pm
todahshy
😦
December 19, 2018 at 9:41 pm
spookymilk
A man can dream!
December 19, 2018 at 8:40 pm
Inkarnit
So…. Not a big fan of the angel rules. Maybe if it was a one time use bodyguard instead it would have been more balanced.
December 19, 2018 at 8:50 pm
codefox
So new game on Monday? Nothing much going on next week
December 19, 2018 at 8:51 pm
Inkarnit
Yeah next week is actually great for me
December 19, 2018 at 8:53 pm
codefox
I mean in all seriousness… I’m Jewish, so it’s great for me!
But good game… Merry Christmas to all who celebrate
December 19, 2018 at 8:53 pm
inspector giDGet
Well, that wraps that up.
December 19, 2018 at 8:55 pm
mbnovak
Four days, three wolves. The only miss was the day the village was purposely trying to lynch a villager.
December 19, 2018 at 8:56 pm
inspector giDGet
purposely trying to lynch a villager.
And they did it!
December 19, 2018 at 9:57 pm
BigPapaJonTheElf
They sure did!
December 19, 2018 at 8:55 pm
inspector giDGet
Did pirate lie about his saves.
(I’m betting yes, but I’d believe him if he said no)
December 19, 2018 at 8:56 pm
mbnovak
Yes.
December 19, 2018 at 8:59 pm
The Dread Pirate
Of course I did.
December 19, 2018 at 9:00 pm
inspector giDGet
I almost sent (another) message to Novak about that, but held off.
December 19, 2018 at 9:01 pm
Inkarnit
Yeah I didn’t see any way you were honest with that. What were your actual saves and why did you leave nibbish unprotected?
December 19, 2018 at 9:11 pm
The Dread Pirate
Because I thought you would expect me to save nibbish, and thought I could buy an extra day. I knew the numbers were already in our favor, so I wasn’t super concerned about it (despite me trying to “math” it out and look more concerned both before and after). You guys called me bluff; well done.
December 19, 2018 at 9:13 pm
Inkarnit
KG gets the credit for those balls. But I agreed to it. We figured it was our only shot and I did have arguments prepared for another day of counter claiming in case the save happened.
December 19, 2018 at 9:22 pm
The Dread Pirate
That’s the reason I listed KG at the top of my list today. I was trying to think of who would have made that play, and kept coming back to him.
December 19, 2018 at 9:24 pm
Inkarnit
Meanwhile, I thought Annette was the angel because she’d be the only one not to save nibbish there… Lol
December 19, 2018 at 9:03 pm
todahshy
I knew it!
December 19, 2018 at 9:04 pm
todahshy
I had faith
December 19, 2018 at 9:06 pm
inspector giDGet
The fact that spooky brought up your potential lie first made me think him more clean.
December 19, 2018 at 9:39 pm
spookymilk
I was sure that he lied, but was willing to play along with the claim that they were gone. I was interested to see that play out, but finishing the game was better.
December 19, 2018 at 9:00 pm
Colin Prime
Yay! Good game villagers! I didn’t screw anything up!
December 19, 2018 at 9:00 pm
inspector giDGet
I was kind of hoping Colin was the third wolf, because then kg would have made one game comment in three days, but in that comment nailed both remaining wolves.
December 19, 2018 at 9:01 pm
Colin Prime
Honestly I think I would have had the same game as a wolf. Content-wise that is.
December 19, 2018 at 9:03 pm
ZG
By the end, I was increasingly sure there were still 3 or 4 wolves that I just couldn’t see.
December 19, 2018 at 9:05 pm
inspector giDGet
Were I alive on day 4, I would have argued for Nettie as clean and spooky as clean, and probably settled on you as my initial target once pirate claimed.
Kg I had as villager at the beginning of the day, but he was the one who moved the most toward a wolf as the day progressed.
December 19, 2018 at 9:07 pm
todahshy
On a reread it became clear Colin was clean. Made my life a lot easier today even though I was chastised non stop
December 19, 2018 at 9:07 pm
todahshy
On a reread it became clear Colin was clean. Made my life a lot easier today even though I was chastised non stop
December 19, 2018 at 9:08 pm
inspector giDGet
I’ll admit that I didn’t assiduously re-read
December 19, 2018 at 9:09 pm
todahshy
WHAT?!?!?
December 19, 2018 at 9:06 pm
todahshy
On my reread Ash cleared you so hard on Day 1. It was amazing. I knew we had the game won it was just a matter of whittling down the last three. But KG played exactly the same way last time he was a wolf and it finally dawned on me and I was not falling for it this time (though like I said it didn’t really matter since we would have hit on him, Annette or spooky as we voted out the last three)
December 19, 2018 at 9:09 pm
Inkarnit
Yeah, Ash was absolutely terrible. I thought he obviously implicated me, too. Which is partly why I made the seer claim. There was no way I would survive as deep wolf if anyone looked back at his game. Plus the whole invincible Seer/angel thing.
December 19, 2018 at 9:10 pm
todahshy
Yup his interaction with you followed by his interaction with Colin made it so clear Colin Prime was village. It was amazing.
December 19, 2018 at 9:10 pm
todahshy
Yup his interaction with you followed by his interaction with Colin made it so clear Colin Prime was village. It was amazing.
December 19, 2018 at 9:01 pm
ZG
Woooo! I knew it!
December 19, 2018 at 9:02 pm
ZG
Except Ash and Inkarnit. But definitely voted for KG!
December 19, 2018 at 9:03 pm
nettiebarron
Awesome. Yay Village!
December 19, 2018 at 9:07 pm
todahshy
I feel like a was a clearer villager than even the peeked villagers…
December 19, 2018 at 9:11 pm
Inkarnit
Yeah you were pretty damn shiny. Yet never a viable kill target due to angel rules.
December 19, 2018 at 9:12 pm
ZG
You seemed pretty clear. And then a few days go by and I start to see how everyone might be a wolf.
December 19, 2018 at 9:37 pm
spookymilk
I had emotionally said goodbye to my mislynch record. I did not expect to survive.
I’ve never had a worse week to play, and said so. When I say so, DUDES, do not bring up crap like “you’re not hunting as much as usual!” It wasn’t usual this week!
Tough game but satisfying. Thanks to Kage for getting involved (and to most everyone, who responded surprisingly well to an unannounced game)
December 19, 2018 at 9:40 pm
todahshy
It’s all good. But you can’t blame me for trying to find a wolf and we’ve had so many hide behind “oh this is a bad/busy week for me” I generally ignore that.
December 19, 2018 at 9:41 pm
Inkarnit
This was a really bad and busy week for me.
December 19, 2018 at 9:46 pm
todahshy
Oh this is so something VILLAGER ink would definitely say. Never would a wolf Ink say such a thing
Can you guess who I am?!
December 19, 2018 at 9:47 pm
Inkarnit
Colin Prime
December 19, 2018 at 9:47 pm
todahshy
Whoa! Shade!
December 19, 2018 at 10:02 pm
Inkarnit
Am I wrong?
December 20, 2018 at 10:26 am
todahshy
This is what I was referencing.
December 19, 2018 at 9:51 pm
spookymilk
Have we? Are you sure? That doesn’t feel overly familiar to me, I guess.
December 19, 2018 at 9:53 pm
todahshy
Well I think 90% of people say it every game so it has just become white noise to me.
December 19, 2018 at 10:00 pm
spookymilk
That also doesn’t seem familiar. It was kind of irritating that it wouldn’t be obvious to people that a dude who works in Best Buy might not be overly available in the week before Christmas.
Then I had concerts Monday and Tuesday, podcast tonight and tomorrow is my anniversary. (My wife appreciates that the game is over).
I can’t believe this game only lasted three days. I feel like we did it for a lifetime.
December 19, 2018 at 10:04 pm
Inkarnit
Colin certainly did it last time.
December 19, 2018 at 10:06 pm
spookymilk
You’re right, a person did it once. That’s a trend!
December 19, 2018 at 10:27 pm
Inkarnit
It has been a trend. I feel like I see it every game. It’s always that way though. On bgg too. There’s always real life limited availability for someone and just about every game a wolf uses that, true or not, as reasoning.
December 19, 2018 at 10:35 pm
spookymilk
The only “trend” is people claiming it’s a trend. The vast majority of people saying they aren’t available is people not being available. Any claim of it being a huge wolf move is confirmation bias.
December 19, 2018 at 10:36 pm
Inkarnit
You misunderstand. It’s usually legitimate. But it’s so frequent that, as todahshy says, it becomes white noise. The excuses don’t matter.
December 19, 2018 at 10:37 pm
Inkarnit
Colin’s excuse last time was legitimate. He really did have a lot of stuff going on and work at the house. But he was a wolf that was taking advantage of his actual situation.
December 20, 2018 at 11:54 am
mbnovak
I find that the problem is when the excuses actually land. That was the problem with Colin using it last game – Pope and Beezy fell for it, and the village lost.
December 19, 2018 at 9:45 pm
mbnovak
A very big thanks to all for showing up to an unannounced game. You were all great sports. It was an idea I’d had for a while, and I wondered if it would he significantly different from a standard game or not. I probably shouldn’t have subbed out ViolaBee, and let that play out, but it seemed wrong if the only non-participant was a wolf.
December 19, 2018 at 9:46 pm
todahshy
Who’s MVP?!
December 19, 2018 at 9:47 pm
Inkarnit
I say you.
Or Ash.
December 19, 2018 at 9:51 pm
The Dread Pirate
Definitely todahshy
December 19, 2018 at 9:48 pm
todahshy
I was skeptical on how it would work after the light Day 1. But man it sure picked up steam Day 2 on.
Good times, would play again.
December 20, 2018 at 9:08 am
kg2005
Good game all. My wolf streak is over. Unless it was already over and I just forgot. Maybe next game I’ll come back as a wolf still thinking it’s active. I don’t think I was particularly wolfy (though there were obviously hints), but the rest of you were just so damn villagery.
Re: The Angel
That last post I made was an attempt to get into Will’s head. I was planning on lynching ZG so if he had 2 saves left he probably would have succeeded. I think I almost preferred to have a last day be 3 on 1 instead of 2 on 1 though so I wouldn’t have cared if he made the save.
December 20, 2018 at 9:22 am
todahshy
I didn’t think you were Wolfy until you popped up and kissed up to me a bit on the last day which is exactly what you did last time. You fooled me then, but not this time!
December 20, 2018 at 9:40 am
kg2005
When I declared my undying love for you? I only do that as a wolf because I would as a villager or as a survivor or as a person. That’s just a thing I do. You are my favorite. I am the yang to spooky’s yin.
December 20, 2018 at 9:41 am
kg2005
Though perhaps I wouldn’t feel the need to remind you of that quite so often as a villager!
December 20, 2018 at 9:52 am
todahshy
No, not that. I know you would do that regardless. more just I don’t know agreeableness on my views. Maybe it just stood out to me because Spooky was just trashing me non stop the whole game.
December 20, 2018 at 10:07 am
kg2005
Sure, and you were right. I wanted you to get spooky lynched.
December 20, 2018 at 11:42 am
ZG
Almost got there!
December 20, 2018 at 3:55 pm
spookymilk
It was really jarring reading the last day back. I pieced this game together by sneaking looks and comments between customers and songs at concerts, and I truly thought you had to be exaggerating how much I’d gone at you. As I read back and the comments just mounted and mounted, I remembered each but for a million dollars I wouldn’t have guessed there were so many.
I’m glad I played and won, but there is no way in hell I should’ve played.
December 20, 2018 at 3:52 pm
spookymilk
Casting a too-wide net is where I thought it had to be you. And, as you said, the village had gotten too villagery for this reason or that.
December 20, 2018 at 4:07 pm
spookymilk
And thinking about it more, the only reason you had to attempt to cast that net was by reading the room and discovering a dwindling number of targets. I think you did what you could with what was available.
December 20, 2018 at 4:29 pm
inspector giDGet
Regarding this, I was mildly surprised to be dead as I expected to be a person of interest.
Makes sense that I wouldn’t be angel protected.
December 20, 2018 at 6:11 pm
spookymilk
I was indeed going to obsess over you and couldn’t believe you were removed.
December 21, 2018 at 9:44 am
kg2005
I was in a tough spot because I couIdn’t target Will or ZG due to the crazy angel rules. I really should have just taken out Todah, but I was counting on him to lead the spooky train. I was hoping after that I could convince people of Annette and then on the last day just throw whatever shit at the wall I could, but clearly it never got that far.
December 21, 2018 at 10:00 am
kg2005
(I was wrong and it blew up in my face but there was a method to the madness)
December 21, 2018 at 10:21 am
inspector giDGet
I get it, and that wasn’t meant as criticism, just that I was surprised.
December 21, 2018 at 11:50 am
todahshy
I have to admit I was surprised to have survived that night. You always have to leave DG wolfishly alive! The village cannot help but convince itself to lynch him.
December 21, 2018 at 12:10 pm
inspector giDGet
Well, my sterling villager record of not saying anything for days at a time would have saved me for sure this time.
December 21, 2018 at 1:25 pm
todahshy
I don’t even think you voted for me the whole game.