HALL OF CHAMPIONS
SPOOKYMILK SURVIVOR
I: Rachel “The Double-Dealer” Flynn
II: Ryan “The Snake” Fossum
III: Patrick “The Gentleman” Kozicky
IV: Brienne “The Submitter” Maner
V: Rusty “The Porn Star” Greene
VI: Brooks “The Unlikely Hero” Maki
VII: William “The Soulful” Schuth
VIII: Brooks “The Survivor” Maki
IX: Zack “The Ice Cream Man” Sauvageau
X: Pete “The Vacuum Cleaner” Bruzek
Turbo: Brooks “The 1956-1979 Montreal Canadiens” Maki
XI: Matt “The Cold-Hearted Motherf*&^er” Novak
All-Stars (XII): Andy “The Quiet Man” Rustleund
XIII: Sarah “Clarence’s Hope” Bizek
XIV: Dan “The Professional” Kautz
XV: Christina “Assault And” Pepper
XVI: Matt “The First-Time Player” Novak
XVII: Stacy “Saintly Patience” Snell
XVIII: Brian “Checkmate” David
XIX: Annette “Eammon for the Top” Barron
XX: Daniel “Neville “Smash “Hardware” Hardwood” Longbottom” Caouette
XXI: Pete “The Comeback Kid” Bruzek
XXII: Dan “The Even More Professional” Kautz
XXIII: Melissa “Don’t You (Forget About Me)” David
XXIV: Stacy “Fucking” Snell
GODS AND MORTALS
I: Dragging Rivet’s Name Through the Mud One Last Time: Matt Novak (Ultragrandpa) and Michael Rivet (Friph Flipher-Fiph)
II: Bahambo Number 5: Pete “Triple Crown” Bruzek and Michelle “Single Tiara…So Far” Pratt
BIG BROTHER
I: Brooks “Oh, for the Love of God” Maki
II: Michael “#DDB” Rivet
III: Pete “Fortune’s Fool” Bruzek
IV: Erin “All Seven and We’ll Watch Them Fall” Leslie
V: Jake “Littlefinger” Elliott
FALL, CAESAR
2014: Brooks “The Creator” Maki
2015: Matt “The Artist” Novak
2016: Matt “Waited Them Out” Novak
2017: Annette “I Would’ve Voted for You” Barron
THE ROYAL RUMBLE
2013: #21 Greg “The Gallant Glutton of Greatness” Johnson
2014: #29 Jonathon “Big Papa” Pope
2015: #8 Christina “Am I in This?” Pepper
2016: #22 Annette “No Backs Stabbed” Barron
2017: #30 Bernice “The Vulture” Nicaise
2018: #17 Carrie “Solid Gold” Bard
2019: #16 Jake “The Jabroni” Elliott
PLAY WITH THE PROSE
(Writing, non-elimination)
I: Sarah “Centipede Face” Johnson
II: Sarah “The Johnson Eliminator” Wreisner
III: Colin “Lonely Old Moon” Woolston
IV: Melissa “Not Sidebar Material” Diamond
V: Sama “No Family Reunions” Smith
VI: Sarah “Tumor Face” Wreisner
VII: John “Cult Following” Wreisner
VIII: Joshua “Peed the Bed” Longman
VIII: Annette “Oh, Right, That’s Who Won” Barron
WEREWOLF (most recent)
Werewolf Stats Spreadsheet
PUZZLE CHALLENGE
I (Pure): Matthew “The Obsessor” Gilman
I (Power): Kelly “The Novak-Destroyer” Wells
DIPLOMACY
I: Matt “Exploiter of Worlds” Novak (France)
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March 14, 2019 at 8:03 am
daneekasghost
vote: spookymilk
Because I’ve always wanted to kill him day 1
March 14, 2019 at 8:08 am
nibbish
You fool! You’d risk his streak over this?
March 14, 2019 at 8:11 am
daneekasghost
I mean … yeah?
March 14, 2019 at 8:11 am
nibbish
DG, are you going to be around today?
March 14, 2019 at 8:12 am
daneekasghost
I make no promises. It’s midterms week, so my office is a constant stream of stressed chemistry students.
March 14, 2019 at 8:13 am
daneekasghost
… and none of them want to watch me play werewolf.
March 14, 2019 at 8:15 am
daneekasghost
I’m not too worried though, nothing too interesting happens on the first day.
March 14, 2019 at 8:26 am
nibbish
Right. As long as we put lots of votes down and apply some pressure and spur conversation, we’ll be fine.
March 14, 2019 at 8:29 am
daneekasghost
Plus, we always just kill punman anyway.
March 14, 2019 at 8:18 am
adobery
Ok. I spent way too much time trying to go through stuff. I was trying to go through old games from some players to see if I could sense their style when wolf vs. villager. Used the Archive spreadsheet, but the games are not always easy to find on this site. Google doesn’t return all the days matching a particular game, and some not at all. Also not all games are tagged “werewolf” by the mods, so scrolling back through doesnt’ help either. I also got caught up reading some games I wasn’t apart of for too long, and also reading ones I was a part of for funsies. But I digress.
Strats votes really don’t tell us anything. He joke voted Spooky on Day 1. Day 2 he voted DG to get a majority on someone else, then his last vote was just self-preservation.
Will — Him spearheading the Strat movement puts him far in villager mode. Won’t rule out it being a move to look good, and then it took off unexpectedly with Spooky’s tell, but bravo if so.
Spooky — For spooky to be wolf, it would have to be the same deal where is was a move like I just said with Will. He was the 3rd vote and lots of time left. So not jumping on/contributing to look good. (I await Spooky’s indignance/astonishment that I’d even be stupid to mention any of this 🙂 )
Todashy — Didn’t look into him, but nothing sticking out to me.
Nibbish — Didn’t look into him. Dunno.
Melissa — One of the ones I tried to look up their old games. In both villager and wolf she seemed similar. She was asking more relevant things, but those games she was much more active so hard to compare anything to here.
DG — Nothing to go off of. His absence is increasingly annoying and not in the spirit of good gameplay in my opinion. He hasn’t skirted the rules cause majority votes made his participation irrelevant.
Edit: and now DG has made more posts at the beginning of day 3 than all game to date.
Novak — I do favor taking a look at him today. (tried to look up old games, but noticed nothing different about style in wolf vs villager roles to make me think anything)
1) During our back and forths today, he countered my assertion that he was never in real danger and linked to a post where Melissa was swaying his way, so he knew he remembered properly that he was under threat. So keeping that in mind, when the vote was 3-3 late, and even 4-3 late…if he felt he was potentially in danger, why did he never switch his vote off of Todashy and onto Strat for self-preservation? The vote was 5-3 before Melissa sealed the deal late.
Yet, on Day 1, when the vote was 5 votes Colin, 3 votes Novak with only a minute left, he sealed the deal on Colin, saying he “might as well cause I’m next on the block”. I would think on Day 2, he would have had at least as much interest to throw his vote on the other vote-getter to help his safety. If Novak was a wolf, that would be a good reason to not be worried about doing that, cause either way one of them was going.
2) Given we know Strat is a wolf, he was going after Todashy for going after Strat. He kept his vote on Todashy late. Not super relevant though and not great wolf play if your thinkign of that coming back on you.
Beezy — Tried looking up her games, but only one I could get to was Arrested Development, her first game, and she was jumping all over the last day so not helpful. She only played as villager with Novak in the game one time. So is her “I always like Novak vote stemming from Survivor or something?”
I know its been said she’s in the clear, cause she switched from Novak to Strat when it was 3-3, and why would a wolf move their vote to a wolf when the vote was that close. But an idea got in my head, so I have to lay it out.
It could make sense if Novak AND Beezy were the last wolves.
1) She flip flopped her vote between Novak and Strat two times
2) If the three of them were wolves and both on the block, it would make sense to switch to Strat wolf, to save Novak wolf, cause he’s Novak.
3) Novak has been on me all game, Beezy has pretty much been on my side all game.
4) Novak was for role claim, Beezy was arguing against it.
She’s voting for him all game, they’re at odds on role claim, they’re at odds on me. I’m probably just thinking it cause I’m involved in being accused by him and I didn’t really find anything tonight. My time would have been spent better looking in some other fashion, but I didn’t know what to look at. strats votes were not helpful, and Day 3 was not full of enough helpful conversation, just like day 1. All of the Punman votes (spooky, will, nibs, todashy) cept Novak haven’t been triggering me, so that wasn’t helping me. I’m tired. It’s 2 oclock. Maybe going down rabbit holes, but had to mention it. Kinda feel like I wasted my free time tonight. Likely sound crazy.
Anyway, turnabout is fair play, so Novak can defend himself instead of me today 🙂
vote Novak
March 14, 2019 at 8:29 am
daneekasghost
Awfully early in the game to be making lists.
March 14, 2019 at 8:29 am
spookymilk
I can see a Novak vote. I grow increasingly certain this doesn’t work without him or you (or maybe DG, but I keep forgetting he’s playing).
March 14, 2019 at 8:31 am
daneekasghost
I’ve talked the most of anyone!
March 14, 2019 at 9:01 am
mbnovak
I was going to say that there’s a lot to respond to here, but there really isn’t.
First, you question why I switched late on day 1 but not on day 2. You must have missed the fact that I was right there and ready to do so on day 2, and even posted about it: https://spookymilk.wordpress.com/2019/03/12/werewolves-at-cheers-day-two/#comment-90722
I was absolutely consistent on that.
Second, I thought the way Todah went after Strat was wolfy. That’s why my vote was there. I made my case that night, and I was loud about it. As you point out, that would be a terrible play for a wolf, and not one I’d do.
Third, your Beezy theory is just wrong. She just has it in “her gut” that I’m a wolf, and she hasn’t actually looked anywhere else this game. This is what happened when we were both villagers and she wouldn’t listen to anything I said, even though we had the wolves pegged. And yes, I’m trying very hard to be nice this game, so I’ll just not say anything more about this now.
March 14, 2019 at 9:40 am
adobery
Fair point. I know you said you were around and ready. If know you said you weren’t feeling Strat, I just thought you would have made the switch with that little time left in the night to protect yourself, since you did th enight before.
I know Beezy thing sounds crazy.
March 14, 2019 at 9:20 am
todahshy
Wow, you make me feel like an inadequate werewolf player…
March 14, 2019 at 9:27 am
adobery
If that’s in response to my wall post, it shouldn’t. I didn’t really find anything useful.
March 14, 2019 at 9:54 am
todahshy
No just in response to your extensive research into past games.
March 14, 2019 at 9:35 am
nibbish
I’m definitely getting the vibe that there’s a wolf between Adobery and Novak. Admittedly, that’s not a new vibe, but it’s one that really makes sense to me right now.
March 14, 2019 at 9:13 am
todahshy
I just love that in 4 posts DG has already won me over.
After yesterday I was thinking he was Harry and just willing to sit back and let the village do its usual village thing and bungle its way to his win condition.
March 14, 2019 at 9:17 am
The Dread Pirate
I’ve been thinking he was Harry, too, but nothing he’s said this morning has given me any reason to feel otherwise.
March 14, 2019 at 9:19 am
todahshy
Oh agreed, he just reminded me of how much better Werewolf is when he is around and active.
March 14, 2019 at 9:20 am
todahshy
I think I just worded my posts weirdly and made it seem like I waffled on him being Harry, but that’s still how I’m leaning right now.
March 14, 2019 at 9:34 am
nibbish
I’m getting a “mostly unhelpful” Brooks vibe right now. Which means that he could be a wolf, Harry, Sam, or just really busy.
March 14, 2019 at 9:36 am
daneekasghost
“mostly” is a pretty charitable reading.
March 14, 2019 at 9:39 am
nibbish
I’m a charitable sort.
March 14, 2019 at 9:16 am
todahshy
vote nibbish
Melissa voted for him yesterday without reasons. But it sort of intrigued me because out of all the early pun voters yesterday he seems the most likely wolf candidate. Since no one did anything vote wise all day he had no reason to show his hand in any meaningful way. I am going to go back and read earlier days (well Day 1 is useless for him) and see if anything stands out.
March 14, 2019 at 9:23 am
The Dread Pirate
These “without reasons” votes are driving me crazy because it seems like they are the majority for once. Beezy’s votes for Novak, nibbish for Novak day one*, Melissa for nibbish yesterday, DG’s two votes… How are we supposed to parse their analysis any vet people if they’re just throwing out unexplained votes.
*He said voting for spooky would have been trolling. I’m not sure if that meant voting for Novak was also trolling given that he was going to be gone the rest of the day, but if so, at least it’s a reason.
March 14, 2019 at 9:28 am
nibbish
My day one vote was made having read literally nothing all day. I’m sorry that it’s tripping you up.
My other two days of material are honest wolf hunting attempts.
March 14, 2019 at 9:29 am
The Dread Pirate
Now that I know not too put any weight into it, it’ll be helpful during the re-reads.
March 14, 2019 at 9:26 am
nibbish
This is very tenuous logic. No one had to do any heavy lifting at all yesterday, because there wasn’t any real discussion going on until later in the day, and even then, there were no other options that I felt more solid about than Punman.
When Punman came back with the line that I ended up quoting, I felt sure we had a wolf — it was SO wishy washy and felt like it was trying to get heat off his back without pushing very hard or pushing in any new directions. I read it as a caught wolf trying not to implicate any of the other wolves.
March 14, 2019 at 9:32 am
nibbish
Okay, so, it’s ooky and plenty tenuous…but is there anything to be read into how definitive Adobery’s “No. “kinda fuzzy”(stroke). Not “kinda furry”.” response to Inkarnit yesterday night after bar close?
March 14, 2019 at 9:32 am
nibbish
Because I’ll admit, “kind of fuzzy” was the first thing I read, and until actually reading the flavor text, I was unsure.
March 14, 2019 at 9:44 am
adobery
Um, cause Beau listed Punman dead as “Coach/Ernie Pantuso” and not Gary or one of Gary’s friends.
March 14, 2019 at 9:47 am
nibbish
I know. It was just unclear enough that Inkarnit wasn’t clear, and neither (initially) was I.
March 14, 2019 at 9:54 am
adobery
But it says he was Ernie Pantuso.
March 14, 2019 at 11:05 am
beezypoof
Maybe “kinda fuzzy” means he was Harry.
March 14, 2019 at 11:25 am
nibbish
See?? It’s not so weird to be momentarily confused by that post.
March 14, 2019 at 9:36 am
mbnovak
Melissa – Last night, you seemed to embrace Beezy’s reasoning because you thought she was telling you something there with her insistence on me. I’m just going to be direct about it: one of two things is true. Either Beezy is not Sam because she’s insistent on my being a wolf when I’m not (and if I were, and she were so insistent, that would be a terrible play), or Beezy is Sam and is trying to make sure the wolves don’t know it by her insistence on me.
I’m leaning towards the former – that she’s not Sam.
So please, for the love of the game, do not abdicate your vote to Beezy’s gut today.
Beezy – I still think you’re probably a villager (I just don’t see you switching off of me to Strat if you’re a wolf), but I am not a wolf and I’d love it if you started hunting. I’m starting to feel like this is going to come down like that last game, and I really hope we can get on the same page this time.
March 14, 2019 at 11:27 am
beezypoof
This sounds pretty desperate to me, friend, begging people not to align themselves to my crazy theory. But I’m really trying to be nice this game, so that’s all I’ll say about it.
Love you!
March 14, 2019 at 11:28 am
beezypoof
(You know I think you’re great in real life, right? Cuz I totally do. Love you, friend.)
March 14, 2019 at 9:50 am
mbnovak
Vote Adobery
If at first you don’t succeed… Look, Adobery has had some previous pressure on him, but it really hasn’t gotten a ton of traction (mostly it’s me writing about it, very few actual votes). That in itself is strange to me, that there haven’t really been more votes cast there, even as a pressure point. Especially yesterday, when I was pushing back on Pun, and why Adobery made more sense with his vote pattern.
Part of the reason he’s been seen as a villager is that he did the research on Spooky’s Strat tell. Personally, I feel like a wolf would still have done that. Especially because the tell itself wasn’t a super strong tell, it was just sort of there. It’s exactly the kind of thing a wolf can do to make themselves look active (here’s a bunch of links!) without actually having to do real hunting on their own. It’s leg work, not mind work.
Anyway, this is where I’m gonna sit for a little while at least. I know adobery has talked plenty, so piling votes on isn’t going to produce much more, but I feel like this is the best spot to be right now. I’ve got a few others I need to read again, and real work to do too, but for now I (still) think Adobery is a wolf.
March 14, 2019 at 10:00 am
adobery
That’s fine. I certainly expected it.
I actually emailed Beau today right after I made my wall post saying I didn’t really find anything useful and it will probably just make people think I’m a wolf trying to look like Adobery the villager.
I actually went through all those Strat games to see if they jived with what Spooky was saying. They did enough to make me feel good about the Strat vote and Spooky’s tell. I posted the links so other’s could get to them quick and decide for themselves. I dunno, I think it’d be wolfy too to just say “ya, I looked, that is wolfy strat” like I’m jumping Kelly’s tell without even showing I acutally looked.
March 14, 2019 at 9:55 am
mbnovak
Unvote adobery
Vote Nibbish
New theory! Nibbish and adobery are the wolves. I haven’t gone back to see if this makes any sense, but yesterday Nibbish specifically indicated how much sense my “adobery instead of Pun” post made, but he never acted on it.
And something about this post here from today… it feels very much like a wolf, who knows one is a villager and one is a wolf. https://spookymilk.wordpress.com/2019/03/14/werewolves-at-cheers-day-4/#comment-90992
Like, he’s giving himself credibility if we find Adobery, but he’s also keeping open the other villager as his way of going.
I’ll have to check this one out… real work to go do, but for now, I’m okay with this.
March 14, 2019 at 9:57 am
The Dread Pirate
If they’re both wolves, why switch your vote from adobery?
March 14, 2019 at 11:49 am
mbnovak
This seems like a really weird comment.
People switch between their top candidates all the time. This feels like a set up.
March 14, 2019 at 11:59 am
The Dread Pirate
But if you think adobery is a wild, why not just say that you also think nibbish might be his parents and here’s why?
By doing it this way it reads more like a set-up that you’re a wolf with one of them. I think you are more likely to be paired with adobery than with nibbish based upon your interactions with both.
March 14, 2019 at 11:59 am
The Dread Pirate
Wolf, not wild (although I suppose a wolf is both)
March 14, 2019 at 12:00 pm
nibbish
Well, I mean, I can confirm that I’m not Adobery’s parents.
March 14, 2019 at 12:09 pm
The Dread Pirate
You guessed it: black phone.
March 14, 2019 at 12:55 pm
adobery
He did say why in his vote post on me. “Anyway, this is where I’m gonna sit for a little while at least. I know adobery has talked plenty, so piling votes on isn’t going to produce much more, but I feel like this is the best spot to be right now. ”
Nibbish hasn’t had heat yet really so moved to him.
March 14, 2019 at 10:02 am
adobery
Lol, I was just going to put a vote on Nibbish with my reasoning, but I stopped to respond to your vote post on me. Since then you made this Nibbish vote post. Now I’m going to look like I’m just doing it because of this maybe. But I’m doing it anyway.
March 14, 2019 at 10:20 am
nibbish
It did make sense. It just never made as much sense to me yesterday as Punman being a wolf.
In retrospect, yeah, it is way more likely that Adobery is a wolf than Punman.
March 14, 2019 at 10:30 am
daneekasghost
Plus, he says I’m “typical DG”, but provides no links to previous games!
March 14, 2019 at 10:43 am
The Dread Pirate
+1
How could you make such good callbacks while seemingly contributing so little? Truly you have a dizzying intellect.
March 14, 2019 at 11:08 am
daneekasghost
It only works if you ignore everything else in service of finding good jokes.
March 14, 2019 at 10:32 am
spookymilk
In retrospect, yeah, it is way more likely that Adobery is a wolf than Punman.
Argh, I hate this backtracking to pieces.
March 14, 2019 at 10:34 am
nibbish
You hate jokes? That doesn’t seem much like you.
Vote Spooky
March 14, 2019 at 10:03 am
spookymilk
nibbish-adobery as wolves has piqued my interest throughout as well (and nibbish as a wolf in general), but it’s very rare (at this site) for the person putting in by far the most research to be a wolf. Not that Ryan couldn’t be, but it would be…unconventional, though I’ve seen it elsewhere.
I got this bug that my daughters had. I spent most of yesterday in the bathroom. Now it’s migrated to my skull and I can barely look at a screen. I’ll try to put in some work as it relates to possible pairings.
March 14, 2019 at 10:05 am
daneekasghost
I’ve read back through the game and I found one big thing that bothers me.
The post today says Day 4? How does that make any sense?
March 14, 2019 at 10:10 am
adobery
Ugh. Typical DG to stick with a joke theme forever. I’m still too annoyed at your lack of being here for 3 days to find it amusing though.
March 14, 2019 at 10:14 am
daneekasghost
Then I shall try harder!
March 14, 2019 at 11:46 am
mbnovak
+1
March 14, 2019 at 10:09 am
adobery
I’m not going to put the 3rd vote on nibbish now, since Novak already got a second one and it only takes 5 for majority, but I’ll post what I was going to post.
This is the second time he’s kind of come after me with weak reasoning.
Then the 2nd days there is this exchange: https://spookymilk.wordpress.com/2019/03/12/werewolves-at-cheers-day-two/#comment-90479
Where he says I seemed SERIOUSLY off-kilter. Then kind of tones it down to my response having a “curious tone” and just plain “off-kilter”.
March 14, 2019 at 10:31 am
spookymilk
I just re-read day two; the days where wolves get caught are always the fun ones to go back on. I come away feeling that todahshy and Dread Pirate are incredibly unlikely to be wolves, as their timing would have been strange to the point of unnecessary if they were bussing their mate.
As always, when I go back and read expecting to find something and I do, I’m a little worried, but nibs felt a little…overly demonstrative? Packaged? Stagey? I don’t know the word for how I felt, but he came off worst to me on that day. Yesterday I kind of wanted to make the same vote, but pun looked really, really bad (ugh, when wolfy-looking villagers can only point fingers at those pointing at them…)
I do also want Melissa to show up more, because I’m still null on her. DG is acting like Harry. Wouldn’t be a half-bad wolf move, but it also seems like there are still too many players for that.
I also half-expected to come away thinking that adobery was a wolf with him, but at least on that day, I couldn’t force my mind to see it.
vote nibbish
March 14, 2019 at 10:33 am
nibbish
I’ve felt that there was a wolf between Adobery and Novak for a while, but reading both of their games leads to a tossup where they both stay pretty clean. I came into today expecting to vote Adobery, but if he’s playing a wolf game, he’s playing a good one, and frankly working way too hard. His research screams villager.
Novak seemed dirty at points yesterday, but his theories which cleared Punman came pretty early in the day (or, at least, they came in plenty of time for the tide to have shifted, had anyone really internalized them) on someone who came back clean. I know a wolf COULD go to that length to craft a theory to save a villager who was the overwhelming favorite to get lynched, I just don’t know that they would when it’s in the wolves’ best interests to string out the game.
I don’t know where to put a vote yet, which, given my position as a target today, is suboptimal.
March 14, 2019 at 10:45 am
adobery
Ok, now all the sudden I’m seeming villager to you with my research and looking clean. How did that change from….
9:35
“I’m definitely getting the vibe that there’s a wolf between Adobery and Novak. Admittedly, that’s not a new vibe, but it’s one that really makes sense to me right now.”
and just 10 minutes before now:
10:20 “In retrospect, yeah, it is way more likely that Adobery is a wolf than Punman.”
and add in you pondering of me being too certain on Ernie Pantuso being a confirmed wolf?
March 14, 2019 at 10:45 am
adobery
Note: All my “research” was out there before you made any of the above comments.
March 14, 2019 at 10:49 am
nibbish
If you are implying that you are putting more time into researching and deep diving into things than I am, then you are most certainly correct. It’s been a busy couple of days, I’m not poring over every single thing that’s been said all game long, and I’m certainly not poring over things that were said in other games.
March 14, 2019 at 10:52 am
adobery
I was implying anything. Just saying you were saying my research screamed villagery, but all that was there before you made later comments questioning my wolfishness.
March 14, 2019 at 10:52 am
adobery
*wasn’t
March 14, 2019 at 10:54 am
nibbish
Sure.
March 14, 2019 at 10:47 am
nibbish
I did some reading. Your researching is way overboard for a wolf.
The “more likely a wolf than Punman” was a joke. Punman was a villager. Beezy is more likely a wolf than Punman.
The Ernie thing was just something that struck me as weird last night.
I still feel like there’s a wolf between you and Novak, but I can’t for the life of me figure out which one. Hell, maybe it’s neither.
March 14, 2019 at 10:55 am
adobery
Not sure what reading you did in 10 minutes that changed anything. My wall post today, and the Strat links was total of my research, which I didn’t think needed to go be read to be remembered. Especially my wall post didn’t need to be reread to be remembered.
Missed the joke.
March 14, 2019 at 10:57 am
nibbish
Sure.
March 14, 2019 at 10:38 am
The Dread Pirate
Went back to check the theory. Obviously no interaction between the two of them day one given nibbish’s sparsity. Day two, nibbish votes adobery at 847 for being “seriously off-kilter.” Adobery pushes back on that language, and nibbish suggests adobery was too defensive to Novak’s day one vote. Nibbish backs off, says he’s not “entirely off” adobery, and movede vote to Novak because he doesn’t want the game to stagnate.
Adobery then votes nibbish an hour later and immediately pulls the vote back saying he misunderstood a post.
Nibbish jumps back on adobery saying it feels like a set-up. Nibbish then moves off him an hour later. Nothing else on day two.
March 14, 2019 at 10:42 am
The Dread Pirate
I guess I left out nibbish’s comment that he’s constantly changing his mind on adobery every ten minutes. Then, DG votes adobery at the end of the day saying it’s been ten minutes. It took until now for me to catch that DG’s vote was partially (completely?) a joke. Seriously, what in the world, DG?
March 14, 2019 at 10:45 am
nibbish
I feel like DG is probably a wolf. It feels as though one of the wolves has not engaged. Between DG and Melissa, I figure it’s DG.
March 14, 2019 at 11:10 am
daneekasghost
You left out that my comment was time-stamped exactly 10 minutes after nibbish’s post.
March 14, 2019 at 11:11 am
nibbish
I noticed. It was probably my favorite bit of the game.
March 14, 2019 at 11:14 am
adobery
I didnt’ notice. I was too wrapped up in the current vote counts and discussion to know WTF DG’s first post of the day meant.
So he doesn’t have the time to do anything else, but when it’s down to the nitty gritty he has time to make a joke post that is time to the minute?
March 14, 2019 at 11:15 am
nibbish
I didn’t say it made him look less wolfy.
March 14, 2019 at 11:16 am
daneekasghost
Absolutely, I do.
March 14, 2019 at 12:08 pm
The Dread Pirate
I didn’t even catch that. I’m starting to have a little bit of sympathy for how inkarnit felt during the Repair Droid game.
March 14, 2019 at 12:42 pm
The Dread Pirate
Pretty much no interaction between adobery and nibbish yesterday, other than adobery saying “I don’t know” when doing a list.
March 14, 2019 at 11:07 am
The Dread Pirate
He’s here, he’s unhelpful, and killing Harry doesn’t hurt us.
vote DG
March 14, 2019 at 11:17 am
beezypoof
It hurts us cuz it’s one less person left standing in the ranks between us and the wolves. Does nobody see this?
March 14, 2019 at 11:18 am
nibbish
That’s not their win condition, though.
March 14, 2019 at 11:22 am
todahshy
It does not impact the village at all to kill Harry. If we make it to final 5 and have 3 villagers and two wolves, the game continues.
If we made it there and had two villagers, two wolves and 1 Harry – the village would lose.
So it actually is sort of detrimental to keep him in there.
March 14, 2019 at 12:05 pm
The Dread Pirate
Lynching a wolf is better than lynching Harry which is better than lynching a villager. If a wolf presents itself, then yes we should kill it. But we have no incentive to keep Harry around.
March 14, 2019 at 12:06 pm
nibbish
Right, we shouldn’t be searching for Harry to take him out, but if a potential target says “But I’m Harry!”, that’s not a reason to keep him around.
March 14, 2019 at 3:06 pm
beezypoof
Really? I don’t feel like i read this anywhere.
Guys!! Wouldn’t it be nice if i understood the game before i started playing.
*hangs head*
March 14, 2019 at 11:11 am
nibbish
vote dg
I don’t know how to parse the other pair that I feel is likely, so I’m going to start with the Melissa/DG matchup. DG has provided less, and now that he’s around, he’s still not helpful.
I do love the levity, though. They keep trying to kill me when I try to add some.
March 14, 2019 at 11:14 am
todahshy
DID YOU JUST TRY TO MAKE A JOKE AGAIN?!?!
March 14, 2019 at 11:14 am
nibbish
YOU CAN’T TAKE THIS AWAY FROM ME TODAHSHY
March 14, 2019 at 11:16 am
daneekasghost
Samesies.
March 14, 2019 at 11:15 am
beezypoof
vote Novak
I always love a Novak vote. Seems some of you are contemplating it. Maybe my gut feeling isn’t too far off.
March 14, 2019 at 11:23 am
adobery
It’d be nice if you did/said something else than the “Novak gut feeling” for the umpteenth time.
March 14, 2019 at 11:22 am
beezypoof
Melissa and boys:
I’m in tough shape today, and will be at the doctor this afternoon to have an unexpected procedure on my foot. That’s at 2:40. Grocery shopping before then, cuz i won’t be able to walk properly for the next three to five days. I will be on pain meds once I return.
May not be around as much, and may be even less cogent (Oxy).
I shall do my best.
March 14, 2019 at 11:30 am
nibbish
Be well, Beezy
March 14, 2019 at 12:02 pm
The Dread Pirate
+1
March 14, 2019 at 11:24 am
beezypoof
Also, does anyone know where we are for votes?
March 14, 2019 at 11:28 am
Beau
5 needed for majority.
Spookymilk (1) voting for nibbish
mbnovak (1) voting for nibbish
nibbish (3) voting for DG
MelissaD
The Dread Pirate voting for DG
todahshy voting for nibbish
daneekasghost (2) voting for spookymilk
adobery
beezypoof voting for novak
March 14, 2019 at 11:36 am
beezypoof
A thing showing Novak being wolfy:
Day 2
9:43, Melissa says, “i’ve gotta vote by lockdown, right?”
9:44, Novak responds, “no. You’re okay if we have majority.”
And then Day 3, says punman looks wolfy cuz he didn’t vote day 2.
Why is it acceptable for Melissa to not vote, but the same thing makes punman a wolf?
Novak doesn’t want Melissa’s vote to go to him, putting more “pressure” on him that night.
Conveniently, though, same thing mmakes punman dirty. Sayin.
March 14, 2019 at 11:44 am
mbnovak
First, you need to understand what I’m actually referring to in these comments. Melissa’s not putting down a vote thing had to do with whether she’d get a strike and be closer to being mod killed. In-game, I’d much rather she put down a vote, but in the meta-game I was reassuring her she wouldn’t be mod killed.
Second, you’re completely missing what was happening with my Punman comments. I didn’t say Punman looked wolfy because he didn’t vote day 2. I was arguing that Punman was a villager, and trying to get the village off of him. I said his not casting a vote after leaving Strat was more wolfy than your switch, and yes, ultimately I put my vote on Punman too, but for the majority of the day I was trying to get us to look other places and actually hunt.
Beezy, this is 100% you looking for confirmation of you gut, and not seeing what was actually happening.
March 14, 2019 at 11:51 am
mbnovak
Alright, I’ve gotta run again. Beezy, I hope your stuff goes well, and you get better.
March 14, 2019 at 1:23 pm
todahshy
unvote nibbish vote DG.
Getting too quiet in here. Don’t want a repeat if yesterday.
March 14, 2019 at 1:47 pm
adobery
vote DG
I’m up for a DG vote. We all know he’s been absent and zero help. He was most active on day one early with usual day 1 banter for everyone.
Day2: Only showed up for a joke vote.
Day3: Only showed up for hello post right as the bar was closing.
We did lynch the angel day 1 as an absentee, making us apprehensive of doing it again. With that in mind if he’s:
Villager — This is a way to stay safe, but not helpful at all for the village.
Wolf — This is a good way to stay safe for awhile, and give the village zero to go off of.
Sam — This can keep him safe for awhile, and give the wolves nothing to read he is Sam. However, this is very unhelpful to the village and could lead to most important character being lynched.
Harry — Nothing really at stake except for pride of winning as Harry. So absentee play is fine for him, especially if he’s busy in real life, which he seems to be.
Even being busy, I think DG would try to do more in the role of villager, Wolf, and Sam. While I think he would love the role of Harry and run with it, being busy in real life I could see him taking the opportunity to do nothing since he’s only jeopardizing his own win.
Given the wolves need to stay safe longer since they can’t kill villagers at night, not ruling out he’s a Wolf. I don’t think DG has shied away from the wolf role in the past though.
March 14, 2019 at 1:45 pm
Beau
Spookymilk (1) voting for nibbish
mbnovak (1) voting for nibbish
nibbish (2) voting for DG
MelissaD
The Dread Pirate voting for DG
todahshy voting for DG
daneekasghost (3) voting for spookymilk
adobery
beezypoof voting for novak
March 14, 2019 at 1:47 pm
adobery
Bah, didn’t mean to nest.
Vote DG
March 14, 2019 at 1:50 pm
spookymilk
Since I last posted, I’ve shat four times, puked twice and found out one of my dad’s dogs died. Happy Werewolf!
unvote nibbish, vote DG
Majority. If he’s a villager here I’ll be both surprised and irritated.
March 14, 2019 at 1:51 pm
adobery
I was seriously thinking about pulling back my vote, since I just noticed I made the fourth vote. You jumped on that really quick.
March 14, 2019 at 1:52 pm
spookymilk
If you’re a wolf and going to attempt to use this against me, PLEASE spare me. Wolf spooky would do this never ever ever.
March 14, 2019 at 1:54 pm
adobery
I’m not, but this just ended any conversation and putting pressure on others for the rest of the day, no? We have 7 hours and is much going to happen after this?
March 14, 2019 at 1:52 pm
The Dread Pirate
Unvote DG
I have some serious concerns about his three votes.
March 14, 2019 at 1:54 pm
adobery
Little late.
March 14, 2019 at 1:54 pm
The Dread Pirate
Guess I was too late. Just noticed his votes were Mbnovak, Adobery, and Spookymilk. Look at those first letters backwards. I really really really hope I’m wrong.
March 14, 2019 at 1:57 pm
adobery
Lol, you really really really hope your wrong the universe isn’t sending some sign that 3 of the five voters in a hand-picked order indicated DG is Sam?
March 14, 2019 at 1:57 pm
nibbish
I’m going to assume that those are a very well nested joke?
March 14, 2019 at 2:00 pm
adobery
OMG, you’re onto something…just the wrong something!
TodasHy
mbnovAck
adobeRy
The dRead Pirate
SpookY
That spells HARRY!
March 14, 2019 at 2:04 pm
nibbish
This seems like a reach.
March 14, 2019 at 2:19 pm
adobery
But does it seem like a joke?
March 14, 2019 at 2:20 pm
nibbish
It does!
Promise I won’t try to target you for it.
March 14, 2019 at 2:04 pm
The Dread Pirate
He cast three weird votes all game. They spell out SAM. He caught my acrostic a few games ago. Forgive me for getting a little skittish that we may have completely missed that.
March 14, 2019 at 2:07 pm
adobery
If that is indeed what he did and you caught it, bravo to you. But boo on him. If he is actually Sam and that’s what he did, dumb. If he’s anohter role hoping someone might read into it and is being a decoy…okay. Still less helpful than being more present.
March 14, 2019 at 2:10 pm
todahshy
When he said Samesies earlier I wondered if it was some tell of him being Sam. But then I forgot. Guess I may have lost us the game!
March 14, 2019 at 2:13 pm
nibbish
I mean, I’m not sure why you’d try to have a tell at all if you’re Sam in this game, other then putting on a weird flex. There’s no point, since you don’t want to be found by anyone for any reason until the game is actually over.
March 14, 2019 at 2:15 pm
adobery
If DG did that as Sam, I don’t like it. Wolves are probably more focused on looking for anything Sammy than the villagers. More likely to get you killed than be helpful.
If as a decoy, it’s better. Not sure at this point in the game it’s better since wovles can’t use their instapower yet. But he would have had to lead up to it with those votes unless he wasnt to clue all three votes in the same day.
March 14, 2019 at 1:59 pm
spookymilk
Jumpin’ fuckpuddles, I was thinking the wolves could use their Insta-kill at any time of the game and was looking to avoid a possible Sam shot. Well, love
and learn!
I still don’t think he’s a villager, unless he’s Sam. So…wooooooo?
March 14, 2019 at 2:02 pm
adobery
Um, ok.
March 14, 2019 at 2:05 pm
spookymilk
Thank you for this ludicrously condescending response.
March 14, 2019 at 2:08 pm
todahshy
I could see him being Sam.
If so well played Adobery.
March 14, 2019 at 2:11 pm
adobery
What does this mean?
March 14, 2019 at 2:09 pm
adobery
Do you think there’s a great chance the wolves are that honed in on Sam that they’d out on of the last two wolves to take that shot at this point?
March 14, 2019 at 2:24 pm
spookymilk
I don’t know, and at any rate it’s not my point. My point is I decided to vote quickly for a reason.
March 14, 2019 at 2:30 pm
adobery
Yes. You said you wanted to avoid an insta-kill shot at Sam. I’m asking why you thought that was possible? They would have to give up one of themselves to try it. They would have to have Sam narrowed down really good from 7 potentials to worth the risk. Otherewise it’s one wolf vs 6 villagers after that, with no insta-kill available anymore.
March 14, 2019 at 2:31 pm
adobery
And Sam could role claim after that.
March 14, 2019 at 2:32 pm
spookymilk
Are you saying DG specifically wouldn’t take that shot? I felt in the moment that he would.
March 14, 2019 at 2:38 pm
adobery
I guess if you’re a wolf you’re going down anyway, so it’s not really giving a wolf up. But super strengthens the village’s road to victory if you miss.
Role claim is flawed I guess. You’d just end up with Sam and the wolf role claiming Sam, saying the other was the wolf. Then village has one shot to make the right guess. Providing there is not a good trail over the last 4 days to make one or another more likely Sam.
March 14, 2019 at 2:10 pm
nibbish
It seems like a really weird time to take that shot, considering we aren’t exactly narrowed in on the third wolf.
March 14, 2019 at 2:08 pm
daneekasghost
I’m out.
Have fun everyone!
March 14, 2019 at 2:09 pm
nibbish
Godspeed, fun guy
March 14, 2019 at 2:12 pm
todahshy
Man I was just hoping to get some discussion going. That escalated quickly.
March 14, 2019 at 2:16 pm
The Dread Pirate
Yes, that was quite the train or wagon out whatever terminology we want to use.
March 14, 2019 at 2:14 pm
Beau
DG is in jail.
I can make a death post after 3 pm. Do people want to start a new day around 4 and go to 10?
March 14, 2019 at 2:14 pm
daneekasghost
I say yes.
March 14, 2019 at 2:16 pm
adobery
Hell no.
March 14, 2019 at 2:16 pm
nibbish
This clearly means he’s not Sam, so… crisis averted.
March 14, 2019 at 2:16 pm
The Dread Pirate
Would still prefer to end at 9 if possible. Also, guess that means he’s not Sam, thankfully.
March 14, 2019 at 2:19 pm
todahshy
If we do, please make it 10. I won’t be home until late.
March 14, 2019 at 2:18 pm
adobery
Participation is sparse enough. No way I want to cram another day into 6 hours, with some not even around now to know this day is essentially over and get caught up.
Definite absolute no.
March 14, 2019 at 2:19 pm
todahshy
I agree wolf.
March 14, 2019 at 2:22 pm
adobery
What did I do to make you jump on me now?
March 14, 2019 at 2:34 pm
Melissa D
I was just thinking it’d be nice to do ONLY evenings and do a form of “express” Werewolf. I’d be way more participatory because I work during the day.
March 14, 2019 at 2:36 pm
Beau
Some people are more participatory during the day because they’re at work.
March 14, 2019 at 2:39 pm
Melissa D
That’s either a super nice job or an amazingly dull one.
March 14, 2019 at 2:43 pm
spookymilk
In my entire history running these games (all, not just Werewolf) by far the most active time has been weekdays during work hours. I never got it either.
March 14, 2019 at 2:47 pm
todahshy
Boring desk job distraction.
March 14, 2019 at 2:26 pm
spookymilk
I close tonight. I shouldn’t be at work but I don’t want to burn PTO. I probably would’ve said yes but if Ryan is an absolute no then it doesn’t disappoint me to not have to try to play tonight.
March 14, 2019 at 3:42 pm
beezypoof
I vote yes.
March 14, 2019 at 2:22 pm
nibbish
I’d be available.
March 14, 2019 at 2:24 pm
Melissa D
Vote DG
Whew. Thank goodness I’m in time.
March 14, 2019 at 2:30 pm
todahshy
😒
March 14, 2019 at 2:32 pm
Melissa D
Awww. I love you, too, Todah. We’re always such a great team!
March 14, 2019 at 2:38 pm
todahshy
🤗
March 14, 2019 at 2:37 pm
Beau
How about this? We still start the day at 4:00 pm, but it doesn’t actually end until tomorrow night or until there’s a lynching?
March 14, 2019 at 2:39 pm
todahshy
You read my mind.
March 14, 2019 at 2:40 pm
spookymilk
I could stand that. Gonna be in the bathroom all day anyway.
March 14, 2019 at 3:02 pm
adobery
So just takes 2 yesses from the crowd for an approval on this, eh?
March 14, 2019 at 3:03 pm
adobery
Nvm.
March 14, 2019 at 2:56 pm
Beau
Spookymilk (1) voting for DG
mbnovak (1) voting for nibbish
nibbish (2) voting for DG
MelissaD
The Dread Pirate voting for DG
todahshy voting for DG
daneekasghost (5) voting for spookymilk
adobery voting for DG
beezypoof voting for novak
MelissaD will not get a strike since there was a majority.
March 14, 2019 at 2:57 pm
Beau
IT IS NIGHT. No more discussion for now
March 14, 2019 at 2:59 pm
Beau
Paul strides up to the bar. “Hey guys, has anyone heard from Norm’s wife? I thought I’d pay my respects.”
“You dope,” Carla replies. “Nobody here has ever heard from her.”
nettiebarron: Diane Chambers, spread eagleColin Prime: Norm Peterson, still thirstystrategery: Gary’s stooge, corner pocketjoepunman: Ernie Pantuso, kind of fuzzydaneekasghost: Vera, was she ever really here?Spookymilk
mbnovak
nibbish
MelissaD
The Dread Pirate
todahshy
adobery
beezypoof
March 14, 2019 at 3:00 pm
Beau
DAY 5 will commence at 4:00 pm central. It will run until 9:00 pm on Friday or until there’s a lynching
March 14, 2019 at 3:44 pm
beezypoof
vote Novak
I always love a Novak vote.